Re: problem with automatic handling of message IEC534D

2008-02-11 Thread Glenn Siegel
Eric, Sorry I don't realy check this site often and I thought I replied to this already I guess not. http://cbttape.org/ftp/updates/CBT708.zip -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EM

Re: Two COBOL questions

2008-02-11 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
McKown, John wrote: >I don't think that CEEENV uses UNIX system services. But, then, I don't >think that BPXWDYN calls UNIX functions either. I think it is prefixed >with BPX... simply so that people feel comfortable using it in a UNIX >shell script or program. > >In either case, eventually they e

Re: Curious(?) way to ZIP a mainframe file.

2008-02-11 Thread Timothy Sipples
John, when you zip a file using the jar command, do you see any zAAP eligible workload? Just curious. Although the jar command is part of the Java runtime, I'm not sure whether jar sends anything to the zAAP. - - - - - Timothy Sipples IBM Consulting Enterprise Software Architect Specializing in

Re: tcpip, vary obey command failed : exclusive control

2008-02-11 Thread J R
> SYSDSN is Allocation, not ISPF. Correct. I meant SYSDSN ENQ behavior done by allocation on behalf of ISPF edit. > I believe that what you are seeing is that > for sequential data sets ISPF allocation with disposition OLD but for PDS > it allocates with SHR. ISPF does it's own ENQ's to se

Re: JES2 NJE question: SNA(CTC) vs. TCPIP

2008-02-11 Thread Tom Longfellow
>Hello, > >I am new to APPN and Enterprise Extender. I am trying to set up Enterprise Extender Between two test LPARS running >on two separate Z machines. I am running Z/OS 1.8n on both test LPARS. I have modified the VTAM PARMS and made >changes to TCP/IP. I have also created XCA and Switch majo

Re: tcpip, vary obey command failed : exclusive control

2008-02-11 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 02/07/2008 at 09:29 AM, J R <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >ISTR that ISPF edit's SYSDSN ENQ behaves differently >for a sequential dataset versus a member of a PDS. SYSDSN is Allocation, not ISPF. I believe that what you are seeing is that for sequential data sets ISPF a

Re: tcpip, vary obey command failed

2008-02-11 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 02/07/2008 at 08:25 AM, "McKown, John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >You keep using the characters "dns". Are you actually using "dns"? It >should be "dsn". Please be sure you are not making a typing error. Unless he's in a real BIND ;-) -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) M

Re: Safest way to destroy 3590 Carts(Data Erasure Products)

2008-02-11 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 02/08/2008 at 10:49 AM, "Van Dalsen, Herbie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >On this note... We have about 5000 Double-(blue) and 3000 triple >density(green) Carts, due to the sensitivity of the data on them, >company policy prohibits us from transporting them to the moth

Re: WLM for toddlers

2008-02-11 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
Actually the terminology for SPAs applies also to UDFs (user defined functions). The SQL DDL for a UDF includes the name of the external load module (8 char load module) and the WLM environment which in some of the IBM example code is something like WLMENV1. WLM starts up an address space to exec

Re: SPAM: Re: JES2 NJE question: SNA(CTC) vs. TCPIP

2008-02-11 Thread Rick Fochtman
-- IMO, setting up the TCPIP parms is easier than setting up a VTAM cross domain. Also, in my case, getting the CTCs "cross connected" between the LPARs in the HCD is a bit mind numbing. However, I still need the cross domain for TSO traffic. -

Re: JES2 NJE question: SNA(CTC) vs. TCPIP

2008-02-11 Thread Ed Gould
On Feb 11, 2008, at 9:44 AM, McKown, John wrote: SNIP-- Why do you say this? Be specific, please. -- Edward E Jaffe IMO, setting up the TCPIP parms is easier than setting up a VTAM cross domain. Also, in my case, getting the CTCs "cross connect

Re: z/OS system programmer staffing

2008-02-11 Thread Ed Gould
On Feb 11, 2008, at 4:40 PM, Patrick O'Keefe wrote: On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 21:20:06 +, Ted MacNEIL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If the installation has a fair amount of mods to the OS then increase the number of sysprogs. How many well it depends on the complexity of the mods and other things

Re: WLM for toddlers

2008-02-11 Thread Dave Barry
Jerry, What your customer means to say is they have a COBOL module invoked by DB2 which runs in a WLM-managed stored procedure address space (SPAS). There used to be a single SPAS per DB2 subsystem instance. It was the "environment" in which one or more stored procedures would be queued by DB2 a

Re: z/OS system programmer staffing

2008-02-11 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 15:27:53 -0800, Edward Jaffe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >... ... We have libraries concatenated in front of >> SYS1.LINKLIST and ... > >I don't have that library on any of my systems. >... I, of course, meant SYS1.LINKLIB in the linklist concatenation. And the problem I refer

Re: NFS: z/OS to z/OS (was: Info-ZIP)

2008-02-11 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 09:26:29 -0600, Mark Zelden wrote: > >I never saw if you responded to this append. Did you try this and did >it do what you wanted? > Well, we have a generic automount entry which has almost worked intermittently in the past. But today it fails with: BPXF903I THE ATTRIBUTE

Re: z/OS system programmer staffing

2008-02-11 Thread Edward Jaffe
Patrick O'Keefe wrote: ... We have libraries concatenated in front of SYS1.LINKLIST and ... I don't have that library on any of my systems. -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.

Re: redirect.www.ibm.com (IBMLink)

2008-02-11 Thread Brian Peterson
On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 16:11:41 -0600, Paul Gilmartin wrote: >Security Error: Domain Name Mismatch > >You have attempted to establish a connection with >"www.ibmlink.ibm.com". However, the security certificate >presented belongs to "redirect.www.ibm.com". It is possible, >though unl

Re: z/OS system programmer staffing

2008-02-11 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 21:20:06 +, Ted MacNEIL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>If the installation has a fair amount of mods to the OS then increase the number of sysprogs. How many well it depends on the complexity of the mods and other things. > >I hope you mean exits! >... Unfortuantely, mods

Re: z/OS system programmer staffing

2008-02-11 Thread Ed Gould
On Feb 11, 2008, at 3:34 PM, Luis M Martinez wrote: Another concerns to mention: * If your shop support some clients (outsourcing) * Several IBM operating systems on the boxes: zVM, zVSE, zLinux, zOS. * A lot of virtual machines. * Some shops try to have one equipment for z/OS, IBM and ISV soft

Re: z/OS system programmer staffing

2008-02-11 Thread Ed Gould
On Feb 11, 2008, at 3:20 PM, Ted MacNEIL wrote: If the installation has a fair amount of mods to the OS then increase the number of sysprogs. How many well it depends on the complexity of the mods and other things. I hope you mean exits! I haven't seen a shop with mods in a long time. I wor

Re: Out-sourcing (WAS: z/OS system programmer staffing)

2008-02-11 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>Current administration is again considering outsourcing Many companies fall in the trap, after a 'successful' out-sourcing excercise, of asking the wrong question: "What else can we out-source"? The correct question is: "What is the best mix of in-sourced & out-sourced functions that best mee

Re: z/OS system programmer staffing

2008-02-11 Thread Anton Britz
Hi, Don't worry John..the White House tried to slip a few Billion into the Budget last week , to save Health/IBM/IT sector.. It's ONLINE now and everybody can go and read it Only problem, they have to approve it and what I saw on C-SPAN, it was renamed as "Dead on Departure"... Never heard th

Re: z/OS system programmer staffing

2008-02-11 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>I know several shops who outsourced and a few years later took their >environment back because of poor service levels..Too many only see the bottom line... But, poor service levels impact the bottom line. Most out-sourcing arrangements don't see that until after the dirty deed is done. - T

redirect.www.ibm.com (IBMLink)

2008-02-11 Thread Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Security Error: Domain Name Mismatch You have attempted to establish a connection with "www.ibmlink.ibm.com". However, the security certificate presented belongs to "redirect.www.ibm.com". It is possible, though unlikely, that someone may be trying to intercept your communica

Re: z/OS system programmer staffing

2008-02-11 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Ford > Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 4:08 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: z/OS system programmer staffing > > > John, > > I know several shops who outsourced and a fe

Re: z/OS system programmer staffing

2008-02-11 Thread Scott Ford
John, I know several shops who outsourced and a few years later took their environment back because of poor service levels..Too many only see the bottom line... Regards, Scott IDF -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of McKown, Jo

Re: z/OS system programmer staffing

2008-02-11 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL > Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 3:56 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: z/OS system programmer staffing > > > >* If your shop support some clients (outsourcing) >

Re: z/OS system programmer staffing

2008-02-11 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>* If your shop support some clients (outsourcing) I have some major issues with outsourcing: 1. You lose control of upgrades an tech currency. 2. The service provider keeps you at the absolute minimum level of hardware & software. 3. They downgrade the staff skill set, experience, & salary. 4. T

Re: z/OS system programmer staffing

2008-02-11 Thread Luis M Martinez
I am fixing one point * Some shops try to have one *team* for z/OS, IBM and ISV software cloning for new realeses while having other *team* in a daily basis operations support. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive acc

Re: z/OS system programmer staffing

2008-02-11 Thread Luis M Martinez
Another concerns to mention: * If your shop support some clients (outsourcing) * Several IBM operating systems on the boxes: zVM, zVSE, zLinux, zOS. * A lot of virtual machines. * Some shops try to have one equipment for z/OS, IBM and ISV software cloning for new realeses while having other equip

Re: z/OS system programmer staffing

2008-02-11 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>If the installation has a fair amount of mods to the OS then increase the >number of sysprogs. How many well it depends on the complexity of the mods and >other things. I hope you mean exits! I haven't seen a shop with mods in a long time. I worked with an Operations manager (just before XA), w

Re: z/OS system programmer staffing

2008-02-11 Thread Anton Britz
Hi, Forgot to mention if you are in the Military, you can do the same work with half the people you need in the private sector. That is what we had to in the South African Military with half the equipment that Carter decided to NOT give us.. Remember, Jimmy the peanut farmer and interest rates

Re: z/OS system programmer staffing

2008-02-11 Thread Craig McGinnis
One other factor to consider is the level of expertise that your DBA and Developer community are. It depends on what role your systems programming staff plays in supporting the general IT community at the company. I know of places where two to many sysprogs are fully employed just in supporting

Re: z/OS system programmer staffing

2008-02-11 Thread David Hanson
We have a shop about your size it sounds like. We do it with 2.5. Combined experience 70 + years. We also do not have Oracle, rather DB2, and no zLinux. It is not enough to stay current with releases. Thanks, Dave Hanson 464-8889 ---

Re: z/OS system programmer staffing

2008-02-11 Thread Yukus, Mary J CIV USMEPCOM
Thanks everyone for your answers. This tells me we definitely should have more than 2 with a combined sysprog experience level of about 10 years. :-) (I knew this already, but am trying to justify more) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] O

Re: z/OS system programmer staffing

2008-02-11 Thread Ed Gould
On Feb 11, 2008, at 11:25 AM, Yukus, Mary J CIV USMEPCOM wrote: Can anyone point me in the direction of where to find a good (but minimum) estimate for staffing systems programmers (with various experience levels) to perform all functions of a systems programmer, including installations of

Re: RSV-XCEL Going Away

2008-02-11 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 02/07/2008 at 05:50 PM, "Knutson, Sam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Bottom line AOS works and is even better than RSVF since we can share out >access to all our tools including those that don't have a 3270 >interface. Your security folks might not see it that way. They

Re: Two COBOL questions

2008-02-11 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Ford > Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 2:29 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Two COBOL questions > > > John, > > Isn't this similar or the same as BPXWDYNcall to USS

Re: JES2 NJE question: SNA(CTC) vs. TCPIP

2008-02-11 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 09:44:37 -0600, McKown, John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >... >> > JES2 NJE over IP is *much* simpler to maintain (once set up). ... >IMO, setting up the TCPIP parms is easier than setting up a VTAM cross >domain. Also, in my case, getting the CTCs "cross connected" between t

Re: Two COBOL questions

2008-02-11 Thread Scott Ford
John, Isn't this similar or the same as BPXWDYNcall to USS... Regards, Scott IDF -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of McKown, John Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 3:20 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Two COBOL question

Re: Two COBOL questions

2008-02-11 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Comstock > Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 2:02 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Two COBOL questions > [snip] > 2. Using a call to ceeenv: > > select persnnl assign to

Re: Curious(?) way to ZIP a mainframe file.

2008-02-11 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>Mainframe: >PKZIP for MVS >PKZIP for Z/OS ZIP/390 from Data21 INFO-ZIP A few freewares. A couple of years ago, I ran a project to replace PKZIP with ZIP/390. There are many products out there, ZIP/390 was the only 'work-alike'. Out of 9,000 ZIP jobs we only had to change 5 that were using more

Re: Control Program of OS/360 reel tape

2008-02-11 Thread Ed Gould
On Feb 11, 2008, at 10:12 AM, Ed Finnell wrote: In a message dated 2/11/2008 7:06:57 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you are at SHARE in Orlando you might drop in on the Paddle Project Birthday Party. There should be some copies of this for anyone who wants to pi

Re: Two COBOL questions

2008-02-11 Thread Steve Comstock
McKown, John wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Comstock Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 7:04 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Two COBOL questions [snip] call 'putenv' using by value file-ptr ret

Re: JES2 NJE question: SNA(CTC) vs. TCPIP

2008-02-11 Thread Jack Schudel
Back at the Seattle SHARE (MAR 2006), Kathy Walsh's WSC Hot Topics session http://shareew.prod.web.sba.com/proceedingmod/abstract.cfm?abstract_id=13912 had a foil titled "JES2 NJE Support for TCP/IP Performance Info" where she said that: - Overall system CPU utilization reduced by about 15% - ETR

Re: Curious(?) way to ZIP a mainframe file.

2008-02-11 Thread Luis Miguel Martinez Chavez
Mainframe: PKZIP for MVS PKZIP for Z/OS USS or Linux: 1.- OPUT, OGET, OCOPY or ISHELL to copying your DSN file to USS/Linux 2.- tar, pax, cpio ... your DSN file 3.- OPUT, OGET, OCOPY or ISHELL to MVS or FTP -- For IBM-MAIN sub

Re: z/OS system programmer staffing

2008-02-11 Thread Luis Miguel Martinez Chavez
Ideal: ZOS small shops. Few and small local/distributed applications, few LPARS, few ISV products, No Datasharing, One Sysplex, few CICS and DB2 regions/subsystems: 5 up to 10 sysprogs. ZOS medium shops. Local, distributed and Web applications, 10-20 LPARS, less than 10 ISV products, 10-20

Re: z/OS system programmer staffing

2008-02-11 Thread Derry, James E
I have worked in a couple locations that are smaller than you mentioned. 3 LPARS, 10-12 CICS images, DB2. We had 4 in both locations. Following is the general breakdown of tasks. Fortunately there was very little turnover. Jim Lead Systems Programmer Primary responsibilities

Re: Curious(?) way to ZIP a mainframe file.

2008-02-11 Thread McKown, John
Oh, I might mention that you can create a ZIP with multiple members simply by having multiple fromdsn commands before the jar command and then listing them on the jar command line. -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Serv

Re: z/OS system programmer staffing

2008-02-11 Thread Staller, Allan
Although the relationship is not linear, there is also the issue of complexity to be dealt with. At one shop I worked, (10 sysplexs, 44 LPARs, 20+ CECs), the CICS person was Actually 5 people). The z/OS sysprog was 8 and the Oracle(DB2/IMS) person was 6. In my current environment, all of the bel

Curious(?) way to ZIP a mainframe file.

2008-02-11 Thread McKown, John
I'm never one to do things the easy way when I can do it the complicated way . Anyway, below is a way to create a ZIP file containing a SINGLE z/OS sequential file. It uses Dovetailed Technologies DTLSPAWN, fromdsn, todsn, and the Java jar command. It must use a z/OS UNIX file as intermediary stora

Re: Clarification Needed for SMS exits - regd.

2008-02-11 Thread Sivakumar, Manikandan
Thanks Steve for your clear explanation. I would appreciate if you provide me the steps to progress. Thanks in advance. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Pryor Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 8:45 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.

Re: DSLIST progress bar (was: OMVS ... ISPF)

2008-02-11 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]@sbcglobal.net>, on 02/08/2008 at 01:36 PM, Ron Hawkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >I don't recall the differences, but as long as I can remember the way to >cancel most things in TSO was to "reset then PA1" or "Reset then ATTN" >This was on real CRT and emulators. In SNA a

Re: Data Erasure Products

2008-02-11 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 02/11/2008 at 08:57 AM, "Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Unless I missed a part of the discussion, You missed the discussion of head alignment.There are also commercial firms doing data recovery. >Is there some report, investigation, official stat

Re: CPU time differences for the same job

2008-02-11 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 02/07/2008 at 10:55 AM, "Farley, Peter x23353" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >They appear in JESMSGLG, therefore they are JES reported. So by you anything that appears in a SYSOUT data set is JES reported? >Picking a nit like this one is neither helpful nor germane to t

Re: DSLIST progress bar (was: OMVS ... ISPF)

2008-02-11 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 02/08/2008 at 04:25 PM, "Patrick O'Keefe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >ATTN performs an interrupt to a half-duplex SNA data flow. It sends a >SIGNAL RU back to the application event though the application is >sending. This is (if not always) interpretted by TSO as a

Re: z/OS system programmer staffing

2008-02-11 Thread Richards, Robert B.
Mary, CICS is generally one person. Oracle is generally one person as well. z/VM and Linux - one or two primary people, depending on the number of VMs and Linux instances. The z/OS sysprogs are capable of pulling double duty here, but that may be cutting it to close. You do not mention performan

z/OS system programmer staffing

2008-02-11 Thread Yukus, Mary J CIV USMEPCOM
Can anyone point me in the direction of where to find a good (but minimum) estimate for staffing systems programmers (with various experience levels) to perform all functions of a systems programmer, including installations of OS and vendor software, applying maintenance, troubleshooting errors, m

Re: Control Program of OS/360 reel tape

2008-02-11 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Finnell > Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 10:12 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Control Program of OS/360 reel tape > > > > In a message dated 2/11/2008 7:06:57 A.M. Cent

Re: SPAM: Re: COMPRESS QUESTION

2008-02-11 Thread Rick Fochtman
Hallo To all A batch job abended on a IEC032I E37-04. The job was trying to write out to a member in a PDS library. I checked the status of the library and it showed that it had the following allocation: Current Allocation Allocated tracks . : 5,

Re: Control Program of OS/360 reel tape

2008-02-11 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 2/11/2008 7:06:57 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you are at SHARE in Orlando you might drop in on the Paddle Project Birthday Party. There should be some copies of this for anyone who wants to pick one up. >> Many moons ago I ordered the OS/360

Re: Multiple tasks

2008-02-11 Thread Scott Fagen
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -snip- > What I really want to do, is to, once any one of the child tasks > finishes, to fire up a new task immediately. -end snip- Have a look at the ETXR parameter on the ATTACH(X) macro. Scott Fagen Enterprise Systems Management

Re: Multiple tasks

2008-02-11 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 16:48:59 +0100 "Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: :><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message :>news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. :>.. :>> I have this LPAR that has 3 CPUs on it. I also have a program that :>> wants :>> to fire off, say 8 tasks. I fire off the first 3 wit

Re: Control Program of OS/360 reel tape

2008-02-11 Thread Ed Gould
On Feb 11, 2008, at 7:06 AM, Knutson, Sam wrote: Hi, If you are at SHARE in Orlando you might drop in on the Paddle Project Birthday Party. There should be some copies of this for anyone who wants to pick one up. 2899 The MVT Project Celebrates its 35th Anniversary - The Paddle Project Sam

Re: Multiple tasks

2008-02-11 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. .. > I have this LPAR that has 3 CPUs on it. I also have a program that > wants > to fire off, say 8 tasks. I fire off the first 3 with an ATTACH. I > can wait on > them with a WAIT 3,ECBLIST=etc > > However, that construct will pu

Re: IMS DLI Option

2008-02-11 Thread Daniel Allen
If you have a IMSDALIB DD statement in your JCL, you are using dynamic allocation for the databases. Daniel Allen | Senior Systems Programmer | 1-800-457-3736x11241 Serena Software - The Mashups Are Coming -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: IMS DLI Option

2008-02-11 Thread Visser, Hans (PinkRoccade Infrastructure Services Technisch Specialist)
Either, you use IMS dynamic allocation, or you do not read the database. Hi; Am using IMS(V9) and am a little confused. From what I read in the manual when using th DLI option you have to specify include DD statements for the Databases in th JCL stream. We use the DLI option and do NOT include

Re: JES2 NJE question: SNA(CTC) vs. TCPIP

2008-02-11 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edward Jaffe > Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 9:35 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: JES2 NJE question: SNA(CTC) vs. TCPIP > > > Staller, Allan wrote: > > JES2 NJE over IP is *

Re: JES2 NJE question: SNA(CTC) vs. TCPIP

2008-02-11 Thread Staller, Allan
1) Change Line Defintions from UNIT=SNA to UNIT=TCP 2) Add NETSRV and SOCKET statements You're done. This if course, presumes that Hipersockets are already set up. > JES2 NJE over IP is *much* simpler to maintain (once set up). > Why do you say this? Be specific, please.

Re: JES2 NJE question: SNA(CTC) vs. TCPIP

2008-02-11 Thread Edward Jaffe
Staller, Allan wrote: JES2 NJE over IP is *much* simpler to maintain (once set up). Why do you say this? Be specific, please. -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phoenixsoft

IMS DLI Option

2008-02-11 Thread Carl Edwards
Hi; Am using IMS(V9) and am a little confused. From what I read in the manual when using th DLI option you have to specify include DD statements for the Databases in th JCL stream. We use the DLI option and do NOT include the DD statements, yet we appear to be working ok. //STEP0060 EXEC PGM=DFSRRC

Re: Need help on running clist in batch mode in z/os system

2008-02-11 Thread Big Iron
You might try routing ISPLOG to SYSOUT instead of DUMMY in case there are any messages routed there. Bill On Sat, 9 Feb 2008 15:30:56 -0600, Joel C. Ewing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >That is because you are executing the CLIST under batch ISPF (ISPSTART), >not just under batch TSO. It is not the

Re: Data Erasure Products

2008-02-11 Thread Ron Hawkins
Kees, The potential to read overwritten data comes from the fact that the heads never "perfectly" line up in the same place twice. A write may write over 95% of the bits in a given track leaving a shadow of old data that can be read - with great difficulty and very slowly, but it can be read. Sec

Re: Data Erasure Products

2008-02-11 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
", IBM Mainframe Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... > > > In a message dated 2/11/2008 3:00:22 A.M. Central Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > >Unless I missed a part of the discussion, all statements that > overwriting once is not goo

Re: Data Erasure Products

2008-02-11 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 2/11/2008 3:00:22 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >Unless I missed a part of the discussion, all statements that overwriting once is not good enough, were based on rumours, assumptions, theoretical possibilities and negative evidence (data is sugges

Re: COMPRESS QUESTION

2008-02-11 Thread Richards, Robert B.
No argument from me, but when the compression revealed so much unused, I was focusing on the extent issue. Bob -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 8:57 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.E

Re: COMPRESS QUESTION

2008-02-11 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
"Richards, Robert B." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... > John, > > At 16 extents, I would suggest that you reallocate the PDS using > something like SPACE=(CYL,(300,100,90). The secondary space depends on the amount of space John wants to add. 4000 tracks was not

Re: COMPRESS QUESTION

2008-02-11 Thread Richards, Robert B.
John, At 16 extents, I would suggest that you reallocate the PDS using something like SPACE=(CYL,(300,100,90). You are allocating too many directory blocks unless you plan on adding 1000 or so more members in this PDS. Also, if you haven't downloaded PDS 8.6 from the CBT site (WWW.CBTTAPE.ORG), I

Re: JES2 NJE question: SNA(CTC) vs. TCPIP

2008-02-11 Thread Staller, Allan
I am just now looking at this. I have a Escon CTC between my two z/OS 1.8 images. It is currently used for VTAM cross domain. I funnel my NJE traffic between the two images on this. Oh, these two images are on the same physical box. I also have IP connectivity between them via OSAs. I am consideri

Re: COMPRESS QUESTION

2008-02-11 Thread John Dawes
Kees, I think that you are right. Problem is how do I fix it? Should I just allocate a larger pds or is something else I should do? "Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: "John Dawes" wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... > Hallo To all > > A batch job abended on a I

Re: Control Program of OS/360 reel tape

2008-02-11 Thread Knutson, Sam
Hi, If you are at SHARE in Orlando you might drop in on the Paddle Project Birthday Party. There should be some copies of this for anyone who wants to pick one up. 2899 The MVT Project Celebrates its 35th Anniversary - The Paddle Project Reminisces! Speaker:Robert Rannie (Northern Illino

Re: COMPRESS QUESTION

2008-02-11 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
"John Dawes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... > Hallo To all > > A batch job abended on a IEC032I E37-04. The job was trying to write out to a member in a PDS library. I checked the status of the library and it showed that it had the following allocation: >

Re: COMPRESS QUESTION

2008-02-11 Thread Steve Flynn
On Feb 11, 2008 12:22 PM, John Dawes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hallo To all > > A batch job abended on a IEC032I E37-04. The job was trying to write out > to a member in a PDS library. I checked the status of the library and it > showed that it had the following allocation: > > Current A

COMPRESS QUESTION

2008-02-11 Thread John Dawes
Hallo To all A batch job abended on a IEC032I E37-04. The job was trying to write out to a member in a PDS library. I checked the status of the library and it showed that it had the following allocation: Current Allocation Allocated tracks . : 5,000 Allocated extents

Re: Data Erasure Products

2008-02-11 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
"Shmuel Metz , Seymour J." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... > In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 02/08/2008 >at 09:36 AM, "R.S." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > >Don't you think, the "magic numbers" of the rewrites comes from voodoo > >(or black magic) rather than from