Re: JES2 startup question

2008-02-15 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
Our WLM Managed jobs all have a Scheduling Environment and we keep their resourses OFF until we allow the jobs to start. Kees. "Dean Montevago" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... > Mark just posted a note about WLM managed init's and automation. We not > doing that

Re: JES2 startup question

2008-02-15 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
"Tom Marchant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... > On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:23:26 -0500, Angel Tamayo wrote: > > >Thanks Dean, you right. > >But some option without changes in parmlib? > > Start JES2 without NOREQ, then issue $PI? > > -- > Tom Marchant I think the

Re: MFNetDisk bugs and status.

2008-02-15 Thread shai hess
HI, We are running the product using multi MF and multi SHARKS. We are so happy with the result (no bugs, very good performance even compare to SHARK (Yes, I was surprise! (We used LAN)) that we decide to give the OK to use the new version to the users. We will prepare some notes about the p

Re: A new low in e-mail disclaimers (Was Re: Z9 Upgrade)

2008-02-15 Thread R.S.
Ed Gould wrote: On Feb 14, 2008, at 1:59 PM, Rick Fochtman wrote: --SNIP--- Two biggest mistakes we ever made: letting doctors advertise and letting lawyers advertise. Can anyone in the US now watch TV without seeing at least 4 lawyers' a

SV: COMPRESS QUESTION

2008-02-15 Thread Thomas Berg
Please children, calm down! Regards, Thomas _ Thomas Berg Specialist IT Utveckling Swedbank AB (Publ) > -Ursprungligt meddelande- > Från: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] För Shmuel Metz (Seymour

Re: A new low in e-mail disclaimers (Was Re: Z9 Upgrade)

2008-02-15 Thread Sarel Swanepoel
NB: This email and its contents are subject to our email legal notice which can be viewed at http://www.sars.gov.za/Email_Disclaimer.pdf Hi 100% right, it is our famous lawyers that came up with it and it gets added to our e-mail. >Actually, Mr. Swanepoel didn't write that passage; eit

Re: A new low in e-mail disclaimers (Was Re: Z9 Upgrade)

2008-02-15 Thread Ron MacRae
Just be greatfull it's a URL and the whole document is not in the email!! Ron. On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 12:44:20 +0200, Sarel Swanepoel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >NB: This email and its contents are subject to our email legal notice >which can be viewed at http://www.sars.gov.za/Email_Disclaimer.pd

Re: JES2 startup question

2008-02-15 Thread Tom Marchant
On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 09:02:59 +0100, Vernooy, C.P. wrote: >"Tom Marchant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message >news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... >> On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:23:26 -0500, Angel Tamayo wrote: >> >> >Thanks Dean, you right. >> >But some option without changes in parmlib? >> >> Start JES2 wit

Re: JES2 startup question

2008-02-15 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
"Tom Marchant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... > On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 09:02:59 +0100, Vernooy, C.P. wrote: > > >"Tom Marchant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > >news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... > >> On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:23:26 -0500, Angel Tamayo wrote: > >> > >>

Re: Linux zSeries questions

2008-02-15 Thread Phil Smith III
Ed Gould <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Can I ask an innocent(?) question here.. LINUX is it documented like >MVS or something like early 360 (YES 360) manuals ? >I do not have access to any of them to see. Linux is Open Source, and as such is documented to whatever standard someone felt like. T

Re: SPAM: Re: COMPRESS QUESTION

2008-02-15 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 2/14/2008 11:06:10 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >In 35+ years, I've never seen a directory block count stored anywhere; only the count of blocks used. The classic method of counting the total of directory blocks is to open the directory as a se

Re: SPAM: Re: COMPRESS QUESTION

2008-02-15 Thread Tom Marchant
On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 09:05:59 EST, IBM Mainframe Discussion List wrote: > >The reason that a PDS directory entry that describes a load module is larger >than a directory entry for other types of data is that load modules store >info in the entry that is used by program fetch when the load module is

Need TSO & ISPF short cut commands

2008-02-15 Thread Sivakumar, Manikandan
Hi I would appreciate if you provide me some shortcut commands for TSO & ISPF and its tips. Thanks in advance. J Regards, Mani -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTE

Re: Safest way to destroy 3590 Carts(Data Erasure Products)

2008-02-15 Thread Mike Baldwin
On Fri, 8 Feb 2008 10:49:46 -, Van Dalsen, Herbie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On this note... We have about 5000 Double-(blue) and 3000 triple >density(green) Carts, due to the sensitivity of the data on them, >company policy prohibits us from transporting them to the mother ship >who is in

Re: Need TSO & ISPF short cut commands

2008-02-15 Thread Mark H. Young
On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 22:52:26 +0800, Sivakumar, Manikandan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Hi > >I would appreciate if you provide me some shortcut commands for TSO & >ISPF and its tips. Thanks in advance. J > >Regards, > >Mani Ahem...could you be a teensie-weensie little more specific, ay?! What

SMS QUESTION - DATACLAS FILTERLIST

2008-02-15 Thread willie bunter
Hallo All, I have a request from a user to add about 730 aliases to a TMM DATACLAS FILTLIST. I looked at the prospect of using High Level Qualifiers but these dsns are not using the same dsn patterns. Since SMS has a limit of 255 entries in a FLITLIST I have no choice but to create sever

IWMEQTME/TIMEUSED for ENCLAVE SRB

2008-02-15 Thread SUBSCRIBE IBM-MAIN DaveStedman
Can anyone help with this? If I'm running in a preemptible Enclave SRB and I issue a TIMEUSED macro to obtain task CPU time and an IWMEQTME macro to obtain Enclave CPU time, is the Enclave CPU time returned by IWMEQTME included in the task time returned by TIMEUSED? Or should we add these two t

Re: SMS QUESTION - DATACLAS FILTERLIST

2008-02-15 Thread Richards, Robert B.
YES. Or code three WHEN statements. - Robert B. Richards(Bob) US Office of Personnel Management 1900 E Street NW Room: BH04L Washington, D.C. 20415 Phone: (202) 606-1195

Re: Need TSO & ISPF short cut commands

2008-02-15 Thread Don Leahy
TSO + ISPF is a very command-rich environment, so there is no short answer to your question. Some of the commands are less than obvious, which is why I recommend products like SimpList, which can ease the transition for those who are new to the z/OS world. On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 9:52 AM, Sivakum

Re: SMS QUESTION - DATACLAS FILTERLIST

2008-02-15 Thread Ron Hawkins
Willie, For efficiency, put the most frequently encountered HLQ in the first FILTLIST, and the least frequent in the last. You may want to a quick analysis of the HLQ in this shop to see if there is some common factors. There have been a few shops where I replaced large lists of TSO user id FILTL

Re: A friend has sent you this Dilbert comic

2008-02-15 Thread Eric Bielefeld
I was going to cut out the Dilbert cartoon quoted below from the paper last night. Then, I remembered I was in Iowa. Late last year, someone was fired from a casino for posting a Dilbert cartoon on a bulliten board at work. Eric Bielefeld On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 01:45:23 -0500, Ed Finnell <[EMA

Kill Thread!!! Re: [IBM-MAIN] A new low in e-mail disclaimers

2008-02-15 Thread Darren Evans-Young
Subject says it all. Darren -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html

Re: z10 presentation on 26 Feb

2008-02-15 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Clark Morris > > On 14 Feb 2008 06:29:13 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: > > >On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 14:53:00 +0100, Miklos Szigetvari > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >>Hi > >> > >>Just got an invitation

Re: Safest way to destroy 3590 Carts(Data Erasure Products)

2008-02-15 Thread R.S.
Mike Baldwin wrote: [...] This involves transportation of the media to a special incinerator that has waste-to-energy capability. Incineration takes good care of any security concerns; the special incinerator is the best known eco friendly solution. IMHO the worst know eco friendly solutio

Re: Need TSO & ISPF short cut commands

2008-02-15 Thread Lizette Koehler
Mani, As has been said. ISPF and TSO are full of wonderful things. The best place to start is with the User Guides for ISPF and TSO. >From there you can use the HELP command (both TSO and ISPF) to learn more >about what is there. ISPF has a nice tutorial on how to use it. TSO is not as fri

Re: Safest way to destroy 3590 Carts(Data Erasure Products)

2008-02-15 Thread Mike Baldwin
On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 16:47:20 +0100, R.S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >IMHO the worst know eco friendly solution. It strongly depends on the >kind of plastic, but usually the worst idea is to burn it and the best >what we can do with a plastic is to keep it. Of course it doesn't solve >a problem of

Setting up a service class for DDF

2008-02-15 Thread Kelman, Tom
When WLM was set up in this shop about 5 years ago the DDF workload was extremely low. The person that set up WLM assigned DDF to "NEWWORK". Over the past year DDF processing has growing considerably to where it is now taking approximately 10% of the production LPAR during prime shift. Most of th

Re: COTS software on box ? to replace mainframe was Re: Curious(?) way to ZIP a mainframe file.

2008-02-15 Thread Ed Philbrook
Clark et al, Depending on the degree of modifications, isn't it a major negative that mods to a COTS package have to be reapplied or reworked for every upgrade to the package? EdP Clark Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 02/14/2008 07:56 PM Please respond to

Re: Safest way to destroy 3590 Carts(Data Erasure Products)

2008-02-15 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>IMHO the worst know eco friendly solution. It strongly depends on the kind of >plastic, but usually the worst idea is to burn it and the best what we can do >with a plastic is to keep it. The burning of plastic, and other materials that emit toxic fumes, is no longer an ecology problem, in Can

SYSLOG/OPERLOG Time Stamps

2008-02-15 Thread Lizette Koehler
I have a fairly active system. Stuff going on all the time. But when I look in my SYSLOG/OPERLOG I notice that I do not see a time stamp for several minutes. If this system was not active, I could understand the gaps. Does anyone have any thoughts as to why that might be?

Re: SYSLOG/OPERLOG Time Stamps

2008-02-15 Thread Mark Zelden
On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 11:39:03 -0500, Lizette Koehler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I have a fairly active system. Stuff going on all the time. But when I look in my SYSLOG/OPERLOG I notice that I do not see a time stamp for several minutes. If this system was not active, I could understand the gap

Re: COTS software on box ? to replace mainframe was Re: Curious(?) way to ZIP a mainframe file.

2008-02-15 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ed Philbrook) writes: > Clark et al, > > Depending on the degree of modifications, isn't it a major negative that > mods to a COTS package have to be reapplied or rewor

Head's Up - OA22795 + MIM (MII) 11.6 + WLM INITs

2008-02-15 Thread Mark Zelden
Hi, I just wanted to give a head's up about a problem we had. Before I begin let me just say I am not blaming CA in any way. Although I do wish their "IBM APARs" hiper notification would have mentioned MIM 11.5 and 11.6 and I probably would have not run into this issue. I am not blaming IBM ei

Re: SDSF

2008-02-15 Thread Gerry Anstey
Ron, any opinion on this: SDSF DA FMVS EMVS PAG0 CPU/L94/ 42 also we are capped at 1300mips out of a possible 2500. I assume the 92 is 92% of the capped amount do you know if the same is true of the 42 figure? thanks Gerry

Re: SYSLOG/OPERLOG Time Stamps

2008-02-15 Thread Lizette Koehler
No Spin Loops or other issues. RMF looks good. I will just monitor for now to see if anything comes of it. Thanks. Lizette >>I have a fairly active system. Stuff going on all the time. But when I >look in my SYSLOG/OPERLOG I notice that I do not see a time stamp for >several minutes. If t

Re: A new low in e-mail disclaimers (Was Re: Z9 Upgrade)

2008-02-15 Thread Ed Gould
On Feb 15, 2008, at 7:08 AM, Ron MacRae wrote: Just be greatfull it's a URL and the whole document is not in the email!! Ron. SNIP--- Probably it was tried and found out that it all went to bit bucket in the sky in the spam can:) Ed

Re: Setting up a service class for DDF

2008-02-15 Thread Mark Zelden
On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 10:23:45 -0600, Kelman, Tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >When WLM was set up in this shop about 5 years ago the DDF workload was >extremely low. The person that set up WLM assigned DDF to "NEWWORK". >Over the past year DDF processing has growing considerably to where it >is now

Re: SMS QUESTION - DATACLAS FILTERLIST

2008-02-15 Thread willie bunter
Thanks to all who have answered my post. Ron, I checked the HLQs, and it shows that all the qualifiers HLQ, 2LQ, 3LQ & 4LQ are different. Thanks for your suggestion. Ron Hawkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Willie, For efficiency, put the most frequently encountered HLQ in the first FIL

Re: SMS QUESTION - DATACLAS FILTERLIST

2008-02-15 Thread Schwarz, Barry A
Did you really mean aliases? I though all ACS checking was performed against the real DSN. Based on the pretty strange requirements your users impose on you, I have to believe they do not pay for your services (e.g., with chargebacks) but your IT budget comes out of general overhead. Are your da

Re: Need Urgent Help...Sorry for this post.

2008-02-15 Thread Gary Green
Not to make light of your situation, but the North Jersey and New York areas "seem" to have more requirements that most other places in the country. The hottest skills recently seem to be CICS, MQ, DB2 and Storage Management (open systems and MVS). Try these sites: SimplyHired (http://www.simply

Re: SYSLOG/OPERLOG Time Stamps

2008-02-15 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 13:47:18 -0500, Lizette Koehler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >No Spin Loops or other issues. RMF looks good. I will just monitor for now to see if anything comes of it. >... Synchonous SVCDUMPs? Seems like a long time for an SVCDUMP, though. Pat O'Keefe --

Re: Need Urgent Help...Sorry for this post.

2008-02-15 Thread Richards, Robert B.
Put your resume on Monster and definitely checkout SPCI (www.spci.net) for starters. Good Luck! I was where you are 4 months ago. Bob - Robert B. Richards(Bob) US Office of Personnel Management 1900 E Street NW Room:

Re: Need Urgent Help...Sorry for this post.

2008-02-15 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 02/15/2008 at 10:59 AM, Howard Rifkind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Yesterday at 1500 the management who I work for laid >me off, eliminated my position I'm sorry to hear that. I've been out of work for years, and while I've currently got a position it's temporary 1099

Re: Setting up a service class for DDF

2008-02-15 Thread Shane
If this is a production LPAR and all the DDF work coming in is production, classify it as such. As Mark said, you'll need to keep an eye on it of course. We saw some awful effects when DDF first came into use. And if you are already seeing 10% consumption, you might be in for a shock when you give

Re: Setting up a service class for DDF

2008-02-15 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>If this is a production LPAR and all the DDF work coming in is production, >classify it as such. I can tell you what we did. 1. Set up a high velocity service class with an importance just below production online (IMS, CICS, etcf). 2. Set up a transaction class with two periods: a. The firs

DFSMS APAR OA22738 - IGD17295I

2008-02-15 Thread Mark Zelden
Interesting. I had an extended off-list thread with someone about this problem last May after this subject came up. There was really nothing that could be done because they used the LIKE parameter. It appears that IBM has "given in" and is backing out the change made in z/OS 1.8. APAR OA22738

Re: Person-Months for Version-to-Version Migrations?

2008-02-15 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 02/14/2008 at 09:16 PM, Ed Gould <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >You haver an interesting question but I think the root question is How >is the compatibility between the versions IMHO it depends more on the shop than on the versions. What exits do they use? What local mod

Re: SYSLOG/OPERLOG Time Stamps

2008-02-15 Thread Mark Zelden
On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 14:56:08 -0600, Patrick O'Keefe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 13:47:18 -0500, Lizette Koehler ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>No Spin Loops or other issues. RMF looks good. I will just monitor for >now to see if anything comes of it. >>... > >Synchonous SVCD

Re: Question on Out Sourcing

2008-02-15 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 02/12/2008 at 04:16 PM, Pat Mihalec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >I have a question on Out Sourcing. When you sign a contract does that >mean you no longer have to pay for your software product maintenance >licenses? There's no way to answer that without seeing both th

Re: Question on Out Sourcing

2008-02-15 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 02/13/2008 at 09:44 AM, Pat Mihalec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >I know this but I needed it from someone else to show the current >director. He has not mainframe experience, his background is Windows. The situation is the same with windoze; you need to read the licen

Re: Hopefully quick XMS question

2008-02-15 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 02/14/2008 at 02:56 PM, David Logan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Both WAIT and EVENTS wait on ECBs. Somebody has to post an ECB after a >time intveral expires. WAIT and EVENTS do the waiting, but not the >posting. Yes, and the address mode of that somebody need not be

Re: SPAM: Re: COMPRESS QUESTION

2008-02-15 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 02/14/2008 at 03:12 PM, "R.S." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Just to clarify: size of dir. block is always 256 B, No. >but the size of entry is varying. Correct. >The longest entries are for load modules, Perhaps at your shop. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, Sy

Re: Linux zSeries questions

2008-02-15 Thread Scott Ford
Seymour, I also use a lot of Linux including Redhat and Fedora. I used TLDP and Yolinux and several others. Regards, Scott IDF -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 10:29 AM

Re: Linux zSeries questions

2008-02-15 Thread Stephen Mednick
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Ford > Sent: Saturday, 16 February 2008 8:52 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Linux zSeries questions > > Seymour, > > I also use a lot of Linux including Redhat and Fe

Re: SNA Printer driver / tester

2008-02-15 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 02/13/2008 at 02:19 PM, "Andreas F. Geissbuehler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >I have been asked to provide a software tool capable of sending >"whatever" documents, reports or just strings of text to one among a >variety of SNA printer types defined in VTAM. I'm not

Re: SYSLOG/OPERLOG Time Stamps

2008-02-15 Thread Mark Zelden
On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 15:16:43 -0600, Brian Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >In my opinion, the simple "lack" of messages in syslog / operlog is actually >evidence of a system which is well behaved. Absent any other symptom, you >should be pleased. I would be! That's a good point. Of course

Re: Need Urgent Help...Sorry for this post.

2008-02-15 Thread Brian Fitzgibbon
I can second that - Joe spends a lot of time on the West Coast but definitely either of them "knows" the market. Mark H. Young wrote: On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 14:15:39 -0500, Richards, Robert B. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Put your resume on Monster and definitely checkout SPCI (www.spci.net) f

Re: Linux zSeries questions

2008-02-15 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 02/14/2008 at 09:19 PM, Ed Gould <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Can I ask an innocent(?) question here.. LINUX is it documented like >MVS or something like early 360 (YES 360) manuals ? No, the Linux community depends much more on softcopy than on hardcopy. See the Lin

Re: SYSLOG/OPERLOG Time Stamps

2008-02-15 Thread Brian Peterson
On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 11:39:03 -0500, Lizette Koehler wrote: >I have a fairly active system. Stuff going on all the time. But when I look >in my SYSLOG/OPERLOG I notice that I do not see a time stamp for several minutes. If this system was not active, I could understand the gaps. > >Does anyon

Re: SYSLOG/OPERLOG Time Stamps

2008-02-15 Thread Mark H. Young
On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 11:39:03 -0500, Lizette Koehler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I have a fairly active system. Stuff going on all the time. But when I look >in my SYSLOG/OPERLOG I notice that I do not see a time stamp for several minutes. If this system was not active, I could understand th

Need Urgent Help...Sorry for this post.

2008-02-15 Thread Howard Rifkind
Hello folks; Sorry to post this message like this but it is urgent. Yesterday at 1500 the management who I work for laid me off, eliminated my position … whatever it is I’m now out of a job. They said that there wasn’t anything left to do on the mainframe being it’s life will end in 6/30/2008.

List confusion

2008-02-15 Thread z/OS scheduler
Hi, Seen the list below, is it the same or should I subscribe to this one too? http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Comp/bit.listserv.ibm-main Regards -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send em

Re: SPAM: Re: COMPRESS QUESTION

2008-02-15 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 02/14/2008 at 07:49 AM, Tom Marchant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Beats me, but if you'd looked at a dump of a pds directory, you'd know >this isn't true. Don't confuse him with facts. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see

Re: JES2 NJE question: SNA(CTC) vs. TCPIP

2008-02-15 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 02/14/2008 at 04:01 PM, "Patrick O'Keefe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Class C 192-223N.H.H.H Class C 192-223N.N.N.H >I then looked it up in RFC 1918 You mean where it says "and third block is a set of 256 contiguous class C network numbers."? That would seem

Re: DFSMS APAR OA22738 - IGD17295I

2008-02-15 Thread Matthew Stitt
The true problem is that the LIKE= parameter does not send the dataset organization across. I've known about this for years. At one time in the early 1990's I opened a PMR about it. This was an attempt to create a VSAM KSDS wanting to use the LIKE= parameter much the same way as the IDCAMS MOD

Re: Z9 Upgrade

2008-02-15 Thread Dave Barry
Look into zPCR, downloadable from IBM at http://www-03.ibm.com/support/techdocs/atsmastr.nsf/WebIndex/PRS1381?Ope nDocument&TableRow=4.1.0#4.1. It uses LSPR data. Used to be for IBM use only, but now is available to the public. db -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: SMS QUESTION - DATACLAS FILTERLIST

2008-02-15 Thread Douglas Shupe
Willie, Not saying this is a great answer, you could look into the RACF side of things. Have each dataset or generic dataset profile defined in RACF (wild card what you can) and then use the RESOWNER and RACF DFP segment to pass the dataclas you want. Takes some one time ACS coding. Have had to

Re: Need Urgent Help...Sorry for this post.

2008-02-15 Thread Mark H. Young
On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 14:15:39 -0500, Richards, Robert B. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Put your resume on Monster and definitely checkout SPCI (www.spci.net) >for starters. > >Good Luck! I was where you are 4 months ago. > >Bob YES, definitely check out and call or email the folks at SPCI. I can re

Re: Linux zSeries questions

2008-02-15 Thread Scott Ford
Stephen, Versions of Linux run in a lot of hardware, i.e; Linksys NSLU2 Storage Access Point runs a version of it. Many other CISCO routers run it too. The biggest reason for Linux was simple, it didn't crash, period. The flip side is the earlier versions were that they were not user friendly at a

Re: List confusion

2008-02-15 Thread Matthew Stitt
This is essentially the same discussion group. The major difference is that the newsgroup does is not gated to the list server. So any posts made to the newsgroup will not show up to the main list. And there are many subscribers on both lists who are not subscribed to the other. Causes confusio

Re: Linux zSeries questions

2008-02-15 Thread Scott Ford
Phil, I learned VM and CICS by reading IBM's source code..no issue here, made me a Better sysprog... Regards, Scott IDF -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Phil Smith III Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 8:44 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.U

Re: JES2 NJE question: SNA(CTC) vs. TCPIP

2008-02-15 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 10:22:35 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >... >>Either way, I think he did mean Class C. > >No, Class C is a /24, not a /16. >... Well, it's not so straightforward. In RFC 791, but rewritten better in RFC 1365: Class A has the highest order bit

Re: SPAM: Re: COMPRESS QUESTION

2008-02-15 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 2/15/2008 3:07:03 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Fwd: Linux zSeries questions

2008-02-15 Thread Ed Gould
On Feb 15, 2008, at 7:44 AM, Phil Smith III wrote: Ed Gould <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Can I ask an innocent(?) question here.. LINUX is it documented like MVS or something like early 360 (YES 360) manuals ? I do not have access to any of them to see. Linux is Open Source, and as such is

Re: Linux zSeries questions

2008-02-15 Thread Ed Gould
On Feb 15, 2008, at 5:35 PM, Scott Ford wrote: Phil, I learned VM and CICS by reading IBM's source code..no issue here, made me a Better sysprog... Regards, Scott IDF Scott: Apparently Phil has a problem with a misconfigured email client and the reply went to him rather than the group

Re: Linux zSeries questions

2008-02-15 Thread Shane
On Fri, 2008-02-15 at 18:35 -0500, Scott Ford wrote: > I learned VM and CICS by reading IBM's source code..no issue here, made me a > Better sysprog... And I'm trying to likewise with the (open source) Linux kernel source. The difference this time is that if I get fed up/discouraged/pissed off ..

Re: Linux zSeries questions

2008-02-15 Thread Shane
On Sat, 2008-02-16 at 09:13 +1100, Stephen Mednick wrote: > As the screen was re-booting in front of me I could see all these LINUX > messages > pop-up. When he came back to my seat to check if everything was ok I commented > about the usage of LINUX. He said that they're using the free downloada

Re: Linux zSeries questions

2008-02-15 Thread Stephen Mednick
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shane > Sent: Saturday, 16 February 2008 11:19 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Linux zSeries questions > > On Sat, 2008-02-16 at 09:13 +1100, Stephen Mednick wrote: > > > A

Re: Person-Months for Version-to-Version Migrations?

2008-02-15 Thread Ed Gould
On Feb 15, 2008, at 9:36 AM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 02/14/2008 at 09:16 PM, Ed Gould <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: You haver an interesting question but I think the root question is How is the compatibility between the versions IMHO it depends more on the

Re: Linux zSeries questions

2008-02-15 Thread Shane
On Sat, 2008-02-16 at 09:13 +1100, Stephen Mednick wrote: > I didn't dare want to know if it was the free LINUX that was > also managing the flight control systems for the A380 itself!! I knew I'd seen this somewhere; found it just after I'd posted. Here's one on the new 767 - http://www.wired.co

Re: Linux zSeries questions

2008-02-15 Thread Natarajan Krishnaswami
In bit.listserv.ibm-main, Miklos Szigetvari wrote: > - I would need a good newsgroup for Linux questions > - Can we start zLinux under VM without IFL processors ? Others have answered these two, but I didn't see any address this one: > - Where can I found the IPL wait state codes for zLinux ? T

Re: COTS software on box ? to replace mainframe was Re: Curious(?) way to ZIP a mainframe file.

2008-02-15 Thread Clark Morris
On 15 Feb 2008 08:38:11 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: >Clark et al, > >Depending on the degree of modifications, isn't it a major negative that >mods to a COTS package have to be reapplied or reworked for every upgrade >to the package? It depends on what the customization is and ho

Re: Linux zSeries questions

2008-02-15 Thread Scott Ford
Ed, None of the kids ( I am over 50 ) want to learn Cobol or Assembler. I am working for a software company writing in assembler and loving it. Your right about colleges they are not teraching the older languages, only the web languages not a good thing. The shortage of z/OS system programmer Job

Re: Linux zSeries questions

2008-02-15 Thread Timothy Sipples
Alan Altmark writes: >However, you will pay z/VM and Linux middleware license fees based on the >total number of CPs, even if you have just one LPAR with one logical CPU. >Those with larger CP counts will likely find adding a couple of IFLs to be a >better strategy. True. Just to expand on what Al

Re: JES2 NJE question: SNA(CTC) vs. TCPIP

2008-02-15 Thread Gibney, Dave
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Patrick O'Keefe > Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 3:46 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: JES2 NJE question: SNA(CTC) vs. TCPIP > > On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 10:22:35 -0500, Shmuel Metz

Re: SDSF

2008-02-15 Thread Ron Hawkins
Gerry, Well we all know about assume from Felix Unger :-) The 2nd figure says that you are using 42% of the LIP that are online to that LPAR. The first figure means absolutely nothing unless it is >= 100%. The difference between the two indicates that PR/SM is frequently putting the LPAR's LIPs i

Re: Linux zSeries questions

2008-02-15 Thread Ed Gould
On Feb 15, 2008, at 8:17 PM, Scott Ford wrote: Ed, None of the kids ( I am over 50 ) want to learn Cobol or Assembler. I am working for a software company writing in assembler and loving it. Your right about colleges they are not teraching the older languages, only the web languages not a

Re: Linux zSeries questions

2008-02-15 Thread Jim Elliott, IBM
On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 18:27:56 -0600, Ed Gould <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >In order to read source you must understand the language teaching >people COBOL does not qualify them to read a source level OS (unless >its written in COBOL ((thank heaven for that)). ahhh of course there >is JAVA that will