Re: CA's MSM

2010-06-28 Thread Ed Gould
--- On Mon, 6/21/10, Mark Yuhas mark.yu...@paccar.com wrote: ---SNIP-- Since CA is now going to distribute updates and releases via MSM, does this mean that all of CA's products will follow the same methodology for installation?  For example, Telon would

Re: O/Topic Selling poisoned software

2010-06-28 Thread R.S.
Rick Fochtman pisze: [...] Disabling your own software after a certain date is one thing; unpleasant but not unheard of. Disabling the whole shop is HIGHLY UNETHICAL and should be condemned with all possible vigor. Unethical - sure. Unlawful? Not necessarily. And can be hard to prove. BTW: A

Re: There isn't RC of step in the joblog

2010-06-28 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 16:50:42 +0800 ibmnew ibm...@163.com wrote: : Our shop is z/OS 1.9. : On the one z/OS 1.9,there isn't RC of step in the joblog.Please see it below: Done by exit IEFACTRT. -- Binyamin Dissen bdis...@dissensoftware.com http://www.dissensoftware.com Director, Dissen

Re: There isn't RC of step in the joblog

2010-06-28 Thread ibmnew
Dear The exit IEFACTRT( SYSSLS0.IEFACTRT E) is enable. Do we need recompile the exit? Thanks a lot! Best Regards, Jason Cai On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 16:50:42 +0800 ibmnew ibm...@163.com wrote: : Our shop is z/OS 1.9. : On the one z/OS 1.9,there isn't RC of step in the joblog.Please see it

Re: A good Mainframe(ZOS) oriented JAVA discussion group

2010-06-28 Thread Don Higgins
Kenneth I would also be interested in any other z/OS Java discussion groups. The one group I can refer you to is the z...@yahoogroups.com here: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/z390/ This group has over 400 IBM mainframe system programmers on it following evolution of z390 Portable Mainframe

Re: There isn't RC of step in the joblog

2010-06-28 Thread John McKown
That message is usually generated by the IEFACTRT exit. The default one installed by IBM is a do nothing. So somebody must have installed the example IEFACTRT exit on one system, but not the other. In ISPF, go to option 6 and enter DDLIST. Then enter LINKLIST. Then enter FIND IEFACTRT LPALIST.

Control-D Question

2010-06-28 Thread גדי בן אבי
Hi, We have the following request from our user. A job step creates 14 different reports (SYSOUTS). The user would like the whole set of reports to be printed 5 times. For example if the reports are named d01-d14 the order should be: d01, d02, d03, d04, d05….d01, d02, d03, d04, d05….. All of

Re: There isn't RC of step in the joblog

2010-06-28 Thread Dick de Groot
This is done by IEFACTRT smf exit. Check if you are using the right one 2010/6/28 ibmnew ibm...@163.com Dear all Our shop is z/OS 1.9. On the one z/OS 1.9,there isn't RC of step in the joblog.Please see it below: 09.11.48 JOB03386 THURSDAY, 10 JUN 2010 09.11.48 JOB03386

Re: O/Topic Selling poisoned software

2010-06-28 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: Rick Fochtman pisze: Disabling your own software after a certain date is one thing; unpleasant but not unheard of. Disabling the whole shop is HIGHLY UNETHICAL and should be condemned with all possible vigor. Unethical - sure. Unlawful? Not necessarily. And can be

Re: Assembler programs was Re: Delete all members of a PDS that is allocated

2010-06-28 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. joa...@swbell.net (John McKown) writes: I think that there is a difference between having a normal (ain't no such beastie) application programmer and an old

Re: There isn't RC of step in the joblog

2010-06-28 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 6/28/2010 4:40:30 A.M. Central Daylight Time, bdis...@dissensoftware.com writes: D PROG,EXIT,EX=SYS.IEFACTRT,DIAG D PROG,LPA,MODNAME=IEFACTRT Depending on System/Service PAK there used to be a Null IEFACTRT in LPALIB so if the usermod goes to LINKLIB might be

Re: Delete all members of a PDS that is allocated

2010-06-28 Thread Mark Zelden
On Sun, 27 Jun 2010 15:00:14 -0400, Thompson, Steve steve_thomp...@stercomm.com wrote: I just have to ask this one question. How difficult is it to get the number of directory blocks from a PDS in a _ program (where the blank can be filled in with COBOL, PL/1, REXX, etc., but not HLASM/ASM)

Re: CA's MSM

2010-06-28 Thread Mark Zelden
On Sun, 27 Jun 2010 23:14:44 -0700, Ed Gould ps2...@yahoo.com wrote: snip Well I was wrong *BUT* not totally. It seems as though that the glorious folks at CA didn't want to really play the SMP/e rules. It came out after the following 5 (or so years) that indeed CA didn't want to put in all the

Re: Delete all members of a PDS that is allocated

2010-06-28 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 07:43:26 -0500 Mark Zelden mzel...@flash.net wrote: :Even easier than you wrote... :/* rexx - zero a PDS Directory */ :ARG dsn :ALLOC F(PDSDIR) DA(dsn) SHR REUSE

Re: Assembler programs was Re: Delete all members of a PDS that is allocated

2010-06-28 Thread Thomas David Rivers
Clark Morris wrote: On 27 Jun 2010 07:30:35 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: Until IBM provides a language or variant such as a systems flavor of C/C++ that has access to all of the facilities (including the peculiar linking conventions for some JES exits, any management that does not

Re: O/Topic Selling poisoned software

2010-06-28 Thread Roach, Dennis (N-GHG)
MF vendors have played this game for years. License codes are issued annually, when the product maintenance is paid, and have to be updated in a parmlib or lmod. It is a well defined and accepted practice, so long as it is stated upfront. -Original Message- Subject: Re: O/Topic

Re: OT? Java application servers.

2010-06-28 Thread Kirk Wolf
Timothy, - John's question was about Java app servers and AFAIF was not restricted to JEE app servers. - What I said was that WAS isn't light weight, either in terms of resource usage or administration. Of course, no JEE app server is really light weight - its a (IMO) bloated architecture.

Re: There isn't RC of step in the joblog

2010-06-28 Thread Greeley, Kevin
Compare your SMFPRMxx PARMLIB members. Check if IEFACTRT is specified in SUBSYS(JES2... in SMFPRMxx. Kevin. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of ibmnew Sent: 28 June 2010 09:51 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: There isn't RC

Re: PoPS Manual

2010-06-28 Thread Alan Schenck
Rick, You can get to z/Arch Pops by starting at http://www-05.ibm.com/e-business/linkweb/publications/servlet/pbi.wss Enter country, then Search for publications, enter pub SA22-7832 , click Go, and you're there. Works every time, that is until IBM changes the link again. Al

Re: O/Topic Selling poisoned software

2010-06-28 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 6/28/2010 8:37:34 A.M. Central Daylight Time, dennis.ro...@lmco.com writes: in a parmlib or lmod. It is a well defined and accepted practice, so long as it is stated upfront. Back when it was MIX, they'd fall on some relative of Machiavelli's birthday! Sinister

Re: CA's Hyperbuf

2010-06-28 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Sharon Lopez Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 10:17 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: CA's Hyperbuf Does anyone have any comments on CA's Hyperbuf product? We are replacing BMC's Batch

Re: O/Topic Selling poisoned software

2010-06-28 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 6/28/2010 9:50:09 A.M. Central Daylight Time, paulgboul...@aim.com writes: Perhaps this is statistically unremarkable. How many relatives does Machiavelli have? Is the number increasing exponentially? Google's pretty good at these types rhetorical discourses. “No

Re: PoPS Manual

2010-06-28 Thread Walt Farrell
On Fri, 25 Jun 2010 20:20:48 -0500, Rick Fochtman rfocht...@ync.net wrote: Where, in the CD-COM collection, has he hidden the Principles of Operations manual? I don't have WEB access from work and I need that manual! Which CD-ROM collection, Rick? -- Walt Farrell

Re: CA's Hyperbuf

2010-06-28 Thread C. Ardillo
I supported an app that was under ca-hyperbuf control. Tweaked constraints, etc. I can't provide test results but from what I recall it did a fairly decent job of providing automatic buffering for the remaining VSAM files we had. I allowed buffering for PS files, which occurred, but cannot

Re: CA's Hyperbuf

2010-06-28 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Sharon Lopez Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 10:16 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: CA's Hyperbuf Does anyone have any comments on CA's Hyperbuf product? We are replacing BMC's

Re: A good Mainframe(ZOS) oriented JAVA discussion group

2010-06-28 Thread Kirk Wolf
Kenneth, Here are some resources you may want to look at, but most don't have too much activity: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/forums/forum.jspa?forumID=195 http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/forums/forum.jspa?forumID=801start=0

Re: Linklst; 6 of 1/half dozen of the other?

2010-06-28 Thread Don Williams
Where can I find the pros and cons of controlling the content of the MC? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2010 10:58 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Linklst; 6

Re: PoPS Manual

2010-06-28 Thread Riedel, Alexander
The book is called dz9zr006.pdf on my IBM-Books CDROM which was delivererd with z/OS 1.10 -- Alexander Riedel -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Walt Farrell Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 5:55 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu

CA's Hyperbuf

2010-06-28 Thread Sharon Lopez
Does anyone have any comments on CA's Hyperbuf product? We are replacing BMC's Batch optimizer and we are having alot of problems with Hyperbuf. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to

Re: CA's MSM

2010-06-28 Thread Daniel McLaughlin
So I date back to MFT and the honorable S360. However after attending the demonstration for MSM my views are somewhat changed. Guess the old dog will be learning some new tricks. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive

Re: O/Topic Selling poisoned software

2010-06-28 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 10:04:12 EDT, Ed Finnell wrote: Back when it was MIX, they'd fall on some relative of Machiavelli's birthday! Sinister Perhaps this is statistically unremarkable. How many relatives does Machiavelli have? Is the number increasing exponentially? -- gil

Re: Assembler programs was Re: Delete all members of a PDS that is allocated

2010-06-28 Thread Binyamin Dissen
Feel free to do an advert. Your stuff is good. On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 09:32:17 -0400 Thomas David Rivers riv...@dignus.com wrote: :Clark Morris wrote: : On 27 Jun 2010 07:30:35 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: : : Until IBM provides a language or variant such as a systems flavor of :

Re: Linklst; 6 of 1/half dozen of the other?

2010-06-28 Thread Mark Zelden
On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 11:40:35 -0400, Don Williams donb...@gmail.com wrote: Where can I find the pros and cons of controlling the content of the MC? I don't think you'll find what you are looking for (a pros/cons list). It's mostly common sense. There is paragraph in DFSMS Managing Catalogs

Re: PoPS Manual

2010-06-28 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Alan Schenck Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 9:00 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: PoPS Manual Rick, You can get to z/Arch Pops by starting at

Re: PoPS Manual

2010-06-28 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Riedel, Alexander wrote: The book is called dz9zr006.pdf on my IBM-Books CDROM which was delivererd with z/OS 1.10 Same PDF book, SA22-7832-06, in 'SK3T-4269-21' CDROM set. HTH! Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- For

Re: There isn't RC of step in the joblog

2010-06-28 Thread Guy Gardoit
To avoid confusion with any SMF exit (and some other user written modules), I always use the SYSLIB facility. I always know which version of any controversial module is being used by simply looking in, for example, SYS1.LPALIB.SYSLIB specified in PROGxx as SYSLIB LPALIB(SYS1.LPALIB.SYSLIB). On

Re: Delete all members of a PDS that is allocated

2010-06-28 Thread Howard Brazee
On 25 Jun 2010 15:26:46 -0700, rfocht...@ync.net (Rick Fochtman) wrote: Even BAL programmers can produce lousy code; it's just sometimes harder to spot. :-) Character string manipulations, like scanning control statements, can be inordinately complex in BAL if you're not really careful in the

Re: Delete all members of a PDS that is allocated

2010-06-28 Thread Howard Brazee
On 25 Jun 2010 13:33:38 -0700, eamacn...@yahoo.ca (Ted MacNEIL) wrote: What is the definition of user here? Programmers, etc. I went into more detail of what I meant into a previous response to Mark Z. Then that statistic is a show me stat.

AF/Operator

2010-06-28 Thread Betsy Jeffery
Does anyone know of a list-serve, group, blog, etc for Candle (IBM) product AF/Operator? TIA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN

Re: Linklst; 6 of 1/half dozen of the other?

2010-06-28 Thread Ed Gould
--- On Mon, 6/28/10, Mark Zelden mzel...@flash.net wrote: From: Mark Zelden mzel...@flash.net Subject: Re: Linklst; 6 of 1/half dozen of the other? To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Date: Monday, June 28, 2010, 11:19 AM On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 11:40:35 -0400, Don Williams donb...@gmail.com wrote: Where can

Re: O/Topic Selling poisoned software

2010-06-28 Thread Bill Fairchild
This post is trivial enough to require posting on a Friday, but it points out the meaninglessness of anything that is not defined precisely enough. We don't need to use Google to figure this out. If we had perfect documentation, I think everyone on earth today could be shown to be a relative

Re: O/Topic Selling poisoned software

2010-06-28 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 6/28/2010 1:28:16 P.M. Central Daylight Time, bi...@mainstar.com writes: I think the poster meant MICS, and not MIX. I don't remember any MIX product. MIX was real. Precursor to MIM, Allen Systems. Enabled us to do stuff with multiprocessors that GRS couldn't

Re: O/Topic Selling poisoned software

2010-06-28 Thread Ted MacNEIL
MIX was real. Precursor to MIM, Allen Systems. Enabled us to do stuff with multiprocessors that GRS couldn't handle. I thought it was MSX/MSI. I don't remember MIX, but I have been wrong before. - Too busy driving to stop for gas!

Re: O/Topic Selling poisoned software

2010-06-28 Thread John P Kalinich
Ed Finnell of the IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu wrote on 06/28/2010 01:59:23 PM: In a message dated 6/28/2010 1:28:16 P.M. Central Daylight Time, bi...@mainstar.com writes: I think the poster meant MICS, and not MIX. I don't remember any MIX product. MIX was

O/T duplicate birthdays

2010-06-28 Thread john gilmore
Bill Fairchild has used some very large numbers to make his entirely persuasive case for duplications. In fact very much smaller numbers. This problem---It is in fact called the birthday problem---has been much studied, particularly and all but definitively by William Feller in volume 1 of

DFHSM and RACF TAPEVOL class

2010-06-28 Thread Juan Mautalen
Hi: We are at z/OS 1.9 Recently, Tape Data protection was changed (from volume level based on TAPEVOL class to DSN level). Relevant settings of the OLD schema: - RACF TAPEVOL class ACTIVE - TAPEDSN INACTIVE in SETROPTS - TAPESECURITY(RACF) specified in DFHSM Parmlib. -

Re: instream data

2010-06-28 Thread Rick Fochtman
-snip--- There was a time, not very long ago, when ad-hoc use of INTRDR was deprecated (controlled?) because they were a finite resource. I suspect one could still create pretty much havoc by OPENing INTRDRs up to a system

Re: O/Topic Selling poisoned software

2010-06-28 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 6/28/2010 2:02:36 P.M. Central Daylight Time, eamacn...@yahoo.ca writes: don't remember MIX, but I have been wrong before No, you're correct. The gutter folks have me a little flummoxed. -- For

Re: O/Topic Selling poisoned software

2010-06-28 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 6/28/2010 2:05:37 P.M. Central Daylight Time, jkali...@csc.com writes: We used to run Super-MSI (Multiple Systems Integrity) from Allen Systems Group, circa 1980. Yep. MSI MSX. There was a competitor from maybe Duquense but it always lost the benchmarks.

Re: O/Topic Selling poisoned software

2010-06-28 Thread Rick Fochtman
---snip PS: no unethical persons were harmed while writing this post... ;-D --unsnip--- Why not?? :-) Rick

Re: O/Topic Selling poisoned software

2010-06-28 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Yep. MSI MSX. There was a competitor from maybe Duquense but it always lost the benchmarks. SDSI, which I have also worked with. But, I thought, and I could be wrong, that Duquense, became a company after Moreno merged with the provider of SDSI. 1985? - Too busy driving to stop for gas!

Re: O/Topic Selling poisoned software

2010-06-28 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 6/28/2010 2:38:26 P.M. Central Daylight Time, eamacn...@yahoo.ca writes: But, I thought, and I could be wrong, that Duquense, became a company after Moreno merged with the provider of SDSI. Definitely foggy about the whole thing. We had MSX and MICS and were doing

Re: Delete all members of a PDS that is allocated

2010-06-28 Thread Rick Fochtman
-snip-- Even easier than you wrote... /* rexx - zero a PDS Directory */ ARG dsn ALLOC F(PDSDIR) DA(dsn) SHR REUSE RECFM(F), /* pds directory */ DSORG(PS) LRECL(256) BLKSIZE(256) EXECIO 1 DISKRU PDSDIR (STEM

Re: PoPS Manual

2010-06-28 Thread Rick Fochtman
Either the 1.10 or 1.11 collection for z/OS Rick - On Fri, 25 Jun 2010 20:20:48 -0500, Rick Fochtman rfocht...@ync.net wrote: Where, in the CD-COM collection, has he hidden the Principles of Operations manual? I don't have WEB access

Re: O/Topic Selling poisoned software

2010-06-28 Thread Kirk Talman
IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu wrote on 06/28/2010 03:38:32 PM: From: Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Date: 06/28/2010 03:38 PM Subject: Re: O/Topic Selling poisoned software Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Yep. MSI

SHARE Your Feedback: Your Organization’s To p Enterprise IT Issues in 2010

2010-06-28 Thread Anton Britz
For those people that are bored all day and PUMP 500 messages per week into IBM-MAIN : Original Message Subject: SHARE Your Feedback: Your Organization’s Top Enterprise IT Issues in 2010 Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 14:43:06 -0500 From: SHARE Headquarters shar...@share.org

Re: Linklst; 6 of 1/half dozen of the other?

2010-06-28 Thread Rick Fochtman
---snip I don't think you'll find what you are looking for (a pros/cons list). It's mostly common sense. There is paragraph in DFSMS Managing Catalogs in the planning a configuration chapter that states this: For ease

Re: PoPS Manual

2010-06-28 Thread Rick Fochtman
snip- The book is called dz9zr006.pdf on my IBM-Books CDROM which was delivererd with z/OS 1.10 Same PDF book, SA22-7832-06, in 'SK3T-4269-21' CDROM set. HTH!

Re: PoPS Manual

2010-06-28 Thread Matthew Stitt
It's on disk two of the DVD set I have. Look for the disk(s) labeled for the PDF format books. On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 14:54:55 -0500, Rick Fochtman rfocht...@ync.net wrote: snip- The book is called dz9zr006.pdf on my

Re: PoPS Manual

2010-06-28 Thread McKown, John
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/XKS/DZ9ZBK08 -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * (817)-961-6183 cell john.mck...@healthmarkets.com *

Re: PoPS Manual

2010-06-28 Thread Clifford McNeill
Rick, I found them on my z/OS V1R11 2DVD set under z/Architecture and ESA/390 Principles of Operation PDFs on the 2nd disc. I used the Autorun Preferences dialog that comes up when you insert the disk and pushed the Disk Index button. That brings up a web page and I did a 'find' on

Re: Delete all members of a PDS that is allocated

2010-06-28 Thread Mark Zelden
On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 07:43:26 -0500, Mark Zelden mzel...@flash.net wrote: /* rexx - zero a PDS Directory */ snip On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 16:00:39 +0300, Binyamin Dissen bdis...@dissensoftware.com wrote: That does not change the key. I wonder what would happen if member GHJK was added and the

Re: PoPS Manual

2010-06-28 Thread Tom Marchant
On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 14:54:55 -0500, Rick Fochtman wrote: I'm sure it's there, but WHERE?? Never mind that I prefer the .boo form, so I can print it to a file and extract bits and pieces using SPF/PC. Check the archives, Rick. This has been discussed several times before. The last edition of

Re: PoPS Manual

2010-06-28 Thread McKown, John
Which is here: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/Shelves/DZ9ZBK03 -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * (817)-961-6183 cell john.mck...@healthmarkets.com

Re: There isn't RC of step in the joblog

2010-06-28 Thread ibmnew
Dear all I checked our system.Please see informations below On the bad system D PROG,EXIT,EX=SYS.IEFACTRT,DIAG RESPONSE=BT06 CSV464I 08.54.50 PROG,EXIT DISPLAY 176 EXIT SYS.IEFACTRT

Documenting the underlying FBA design of 3375, 3380 and 3390?

2010-06-28 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
Does anyone have formal IBM documentation stating that the 3375, 3380 and 3390 are FBA under the cover. I'm looking for something more explicit than the intrusion of the cell size into capacity calculations. Thanks. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see

Re: DFHSM and RACF TAPEVOL class

2010-06-28 Thread Joel C. Ewing
On 06/28/2010 02:07 PM, Juan Mautalen wrote: Hi: We are at z/OS 1.9 Recently, Tape Data protection was changed (from volume level based on TAPEVOL class to DSN level). Relevant settings of the OLD schema: - RACF TAPEVOL class ACTIVE - TAPEDSN INACTIVE in SETROPTS -

Re: Assembler programs was Re: Delete all members of a PDS that is allocated

2010-06-28 Thread Joel C. Ewing
On 06/28/2010 08:32 AM, Thomas David Rivers wrote: Clark Morris wrote: On 27 Jun 2010 07:30:35 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: Until IBM provides a language or variant such as a systems flavor of C/C++ that has access to all of the facilities (including the peculiar linking

Re: Assembler programs was Re: Delete all members of a PDS that is allocated

2010-06-28 Thread Steve Comstock
Joel C. Ewing wrote: On 06/28/2010 08:32 AM, Thomas David Rivers wrote: Clark Morris wrote: On 27 Jun 2010 07:30:35 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: Until IBM provides a language or variant such as a systems flavor of C/C++ that has access to all of the facilities (including the

Re: OT? Java application servers.

2010-06-28 Thread Timothy Sipples
Kirk Wolf writes: What I said was that WAS isn't light weight, either in terms of resource usage or administration. Of course, no JEE app server is really light weight - its a (IMO) bloated architecture. But WAS is clearly the best, most robust, JEE app server on z/OS, and I'm sure that it is