On Tue, 12 Jul 2011 00:35:00 -0500, Barbara Nitz wrote:
>
>>o I had the site bookmarked with my user ID in the query_string so it
>> was preset on the login page; all I needed to type was my password.
>
>Isn't that a preference set somewhere in the operating system? I never let the
>OS 'help' me
On Sun, 10 Jul 2011 23:48:57 -0500, Barbara Nitz wrote:
>>The "graphic things" are a quotation mark, but it seems hard to figure that
>>out initially.
>
+1
>It was more intuitive than anything IBM throws at their customers (see SR)
>:-). I know you're not responsible for SR, Walt!
>
Maybe it's
On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 08:53:31 -0500, Tom Marchant wrote:
>I looked. I find 30 macros in SYS1.MACLIB that issue USING. 5 of them
>use PUSH/POP. A few of them leave the USING in effect when they end.
>
>The problem that occurs because of the lack of PUSH/POP is an assembly
>error. IMO this is far
On Sat, 9 Jul 2011 11:11:19 -0500, Tom Marchant
wrote:
>
>If a macro changes, e.g., register 4 (with an appropriate save) and issues
>a USING for register 4, there would be no disagreement. In that case
>PUSH USING/POP USING would be needed.
>
>However, I am not convinced that it would be correc
On Wed, 6 Jul 2011 11:16:31 -0700, Edward Jaffe wrote:
>
>Even in z/OS 1.12 you cannot load CSECTs above the bar. RMODE(64) is treated as
>RMODE(ANY) for module loading and execution. You cannot specify RMODE(64) as a
>binder option. The only exception is data class C_WSA64 which can be loaded
>abo
On Wed, 6 Jul 2011 21:14:13 +0300, Binyamin Dissen wrote:
>On Wed, 6 Jul 2011 14:05:07 -0400 "Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)" wrote:
>
>:>>Yes, as I reload R1. Why need I reissue the USING?
>
>:>The macro doesn't know that you are going to reload R1. IMHO it would
>:>be an error for IAZXJSAB to load a r
On Mon, 4 Jul 2011 14:42:37 +0300, Hilary Hurwitz wrote:
>
>The other thing I would like is to be able to see the compile dates in a load
>library - all the library at once. We do have File Aid, but it is a pain to
>get all dates (and maybe even sort on date ?)
>
Wouldn't it be nice to be able to
On Wed, 6 Jul 2011 09:33:20 -0700, Edward Jaffe wrote:
>On 7/5/2011 1:57 PM, Steve Comstock wrote:
>
>The Feb 15, 2011 announcement preview is the only public information I'm aware
>of. It tells you a lot if you know how to translate the 'announcementese'. It's
>been out there four months which pr
On Wed, 6 Jul 2011 18:21:34 +0300, Itschak Mugzach wrote:
> 1. ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/s390/zos/vse/download/xmps/vseesoc.pdf
> 2. ITschak
>
... which is VSE-centric. If the OP wanted from MVS ("mainframe" is
pretty vague), the RXSOCKET functions which originated in VM/CMS
at some time wor
[occurs] while executing above the bar.
>On Tue, 2011-07-05 at 16:53 -0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
>> On Tue, 5 Jul 2011 13:17:26 -0700, Edward Jaffe wrote:
>> >
>> >The operating system control blocks now handle 64-bit PSWs such that an
>> >interrupt while execut
On Tue, 5 Jul 2011 13:17:26 -0700, Edward Jaffe wrote:
>
>The operating system control blocks now handle 64-bit PSWs such that an
>interrupt while executing above the bar is supported. No abend occurs.
>
They put a 64-bit address in a 64-bit PSW? This leaves precious
little room for flags.
-- gil
On Tue, 5 Jul 2011 12:38:25 -0400, Jim Mulder wrote:
>
> The z/OS 1.13 preview (Feb 15, 2011) says:
>
I must have been napping about then. But I checked the IBM-MAIN
archives around mid-February, and I can't readily find a URL for
this. Help!
>z/OS will be designed to support some programs runn
On Tue, 5 Jul 2011 17:27:32 +0300, Binyamin Dissen wrote:
>
>:>So what is the name for the 2G to 4G range of storage? Ok, you guys
>:>can go ahead and fight it out. Me? I'm just going to call it "above
>:>the mini bar".
>
I vote for "within the bar".
>There would be the need for special page table
On Tue, 5 Jul 2011 00:48:37 -0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
>On Mon, 4 Jul 2011 15:33:13 -0700, Edward Jaffe wrote:
>
>>On 7/3/2011 1:29 PM, Binyamin Dissen wrote:
>>> It would seem to me that any macro the does a USING/DROP should bracket
>>> itself
>>> wit
On Mon, 4 Jul 2011 15:33:13 -0700, Edward Jaffe wrote:
>On 7/3/2011 1:29 PM, Binyamin Dissen wrote:
>> It would seem to me that any macro the does a USING/DROP should bracket
>> itself
>> with PUSH and POP USING. I should not have to do that in open code.
>
>Agreed. All of our internal macros do
On Mon, 4 Jul 2011 12:52:55 -0500, John McKown wrote:
>>
>> Q1.Q2.Q3(MEMBER) --> Q1.Q2/MEMBER.Q3
>
>Does the solidus, /, in the name mean you want a zUNIX file instead of a
>sequential data set?
>
I was wearing my UNIX spectacles, as often. Since you mentioned
Java, I envisioned a portable imp
On Mon, 4 Jul 2011 12:06:11 -0500, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote:
>
>>Q1.Q2.Q3(MEMBER) --> Q1.Q2/MEMBER.Q3
>
>Very interesting that you use the Q3 as a file extension. Do you perhaps have
>any [practical] background information or links on this format?
>
>What about this, if I follow your suggestio
On Mon, 4 Jul 2011 19:36:55 +0300, Binyamin Dissen wrote:
>
>:>>It would seem to me that any macro the does a USING/DROP should bracket
>itself
>:>>with PUSH and POP USING. I should not have to do that in open code.
>
>:>So you would prefer that the macro do something such as:
>
>:> PUSH
On Mon, 4 Jul 2011 11:23:31 -0500, John McKown wrote:
>On Mon, 2011-07-04 at 10:44 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
>> on 07/03/2011 at 07:26 PM, John McKown said:
>>
>> >I am considering trying to write a program on z/OS which can read a
>> >NETDATA file and write a tar file. NETDATA is the
On Sun, 3 Jul 2011 23:29:02 +0300, Binyamin Dissen wrote:
>I had a USING on R1 before the macro. I realize that IEZJSAB alters the
>standard registers, so I did a restore of R1 after the macro. Sadly IEZJSAB
>does a USING and DROP on 1.
>
>It would seem to me that any macro the does a USING/DROP s
On Fri, 1 Jul 2011 15:33:07 -0500, Tom Marchant wrote:
>
>LINK is an SVC and the linked program runs under control of an SVRB. The
>return from the linked routine also takes you to CVTEXIT, which is an SVC 3
>instruction. The SVC will delete the SVRB and return control to the RB that
>was active
On Thu, 30 Jun 2011 08:41:05 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
>
>>people who picked them up plugged the devices into office computers.
>>And if the drive or CD had an official logo on it, 90% were
>>installed.""
>
>A large share of the blame goes to the monopoly software vendor that
>wrote
On Thu, 30 Jun 2011 07:43:08 -0500, Joel C. Ewing wrote:
>
>(2) Through the miracle of JCL, any report directed to SYSOUT may
>instead be directed to a dataset with appropriate parameters depending
>
This is only probably true. It's possible for the application
to have a hard-coded DYNALLOC SYSOUT
On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 18:33:03 -0700, Ed Gould wrote:
>Could it be that the numbers would be different for a MAC ?
>
Because the users believe they're invulnerable?
But this is the first part of a PoC. How what fraction
of the users were infected with (simulated) malware
as a result?
-- gil
On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 23:01:38 +, Grinsell, Don wrote:
>
> ...
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> ...
>
I've long wondered about this. SMTP, on receiving mail
and transferring it to the spool translates ASCII to EBCDIC.
But it doesn't modify the MIME
On Tue, 28 Jun 2011 11:22:25 -0400, Gerhard Postpischil wrote:
>On 6/27/2011 5:48 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
>> Why? The correct response to a change in geometry is to write a READ
>> PARTITION (QUERY) and to adjust to the new screen geometry. That
>> should elimenate the garbage whether
In:
Title: SMP/E V3R5.0 for z/OS V1R12.0 Reference
Document Number: SA22-7772-14
Build Date: 06/03/10
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/gimrfr42/1.2
I read:
1.2 Syntax rules for MCS and SMPPARM members
For MCSs, do the following:
o Co
On Mon, 27 Jun 2011 12:13:50 -0400, Gerhard Postpischil wrote:
>
>As you pointed out, return codes from TSO macros need to be
>checked, but unless the user switches to a smaller screen size,
>an error may not be forthcoming, only garbage on the screen.
>
You can't win. Switching to a larger screen
On Sun, 26 Jun 2011 00:17:08 -0400, Sam Golob wrote:
>
> One of the major changes in this update is the inclusion of two
>versions of the GCC MVS C-language compiler and the free execution
>library that goes with it. File 852 contains GCC 3.2.3 and File 853
>contains GCC 3.4.6 for MVS. These ar
On Fri, 24 Jun 2011 06:57:45 -0400, Lizette Koehler wrote:
>>
>> The question is fully contained in the subject:
>> HOWTO invoke Web Services from a batch program?
>>
>> Please route me to somee appropriate reading.
>>
>Could you provide more details?
>What services is the batch web service job to
On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 07:27:48 -0700, Edward Jaffe wrote:
>On 6/20/2011 4:05 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
>
>>ISPF wouldn't tolerate it; I know;
>>disconnecting from an ISPF session and reconnecting with
>>a different geometry results in an endless iterative
&
On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 22:24:15 +0300, Binyamin Dissen wrote:
>I used STARTIO in order to make the CONSOLE input field no-display so that
>passwords could be entered even if someone was shoulder surfing (with some
>help from Warwick Teale, if he is still around).
>
This seems to me to be more a matte
On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 07:55:11 -0500, Walt Farrell wrote:
>
>Yes, they can all be captured. The only issue may be that if the command
>doesn't properly issue the responses then you may not be able to tell that
>the response is for the command you issued. But once you (a program) sets up
>a console, y
On Mon, 20 Jun 2011 18:01:15 -0500, Rajender Vemula wrote:
>
>I want to execute some set of display commands (like D GRS,ENQ,C) on
>console is there any batch utility to do that? . Can i automate this batch
>job to execute on scheduled time. Finally Can I write the output of these
>commands to any
On Mon, 20 Jun 2011 15:10:51 -0700, Edward Jaffe wrote:
>I just reduced the screen geometry of my 3270 displays from 90x142 down to
>68x142 due to ever-increasing eye strain. When I started in this business, I
>worked with a 24x80 display. At this rate, I'll probably retire with the same
>screen g
On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 01:02:19 -0500, Mark van der Eynden wrote:
>On Thu, 16 Jun 2011 13:10:51 +, Bill Fairchild wrote:
>
>>A long time ago a friend of mine told me that the mental abilities to do
>computer programming, music, and foreign languages are probably linked
>genetically. Since then I
On Thu, 16 Jun 2011 09:04:28 -0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
>
>Sauce for the goose. In the recent "DCBE" thread, several
>contributors (particularly IBM employees) lauded z/OS for
>steadfastly maintaining compatibility with previous incorrect
>behavior. Apply the same stan
On Thu, 16 Jun 2011 18:41:31 +1000, Shane Ginnane wrote:
>Windoze runs in time=local.
>Yep, you read that right ...
>
Oh, heck. I would be only slightly surprised if even some
z/OS sites did that.
It's a shortcut taken by developers in the early versions of
a new OS. Usually they intend to pro
On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 17:21:21 +0300, Binyamin Dissen wrote:
>
>No Linux convenient.
>
You can get that free. But I'll grant that free isn't always
convenient.
>What does Israel show?
>
507 $ uname -a
Linux Linux-Mac 2.6.38-8-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Mon Apr 11 03:31:50 UTC 2011
i686 i686 i386 GNU/L
On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 02:59:30 -0500, Jan MOEYERSONS wrote:
>
>Yes, I know! The very reason why I do not want to embark on a full-size
>development of my own...
>
Is Shane's suggestion practical? (And John G. frequently suggests
this should be in a common service, not reinvented by each individual
p
On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 13:17:57 -0600, Steve Comstock wrote:
>On 6/14/2011 1:06 PM, Frank Swarbrick wrote:
>>
>> Do non-IT people make better COBOL programmers? Why might that be?
>
>Well, the rationale is, I think, that students in university IT
>programs today will only have seen Windows / Unix /
On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 08:44:03 -0400, Peter Relson wrote:
>IBM very rarely will change an existing RC=0 to some non-0 value. This is
>for compatibility reasons.
>Even rarer (if ever) would be to do this in the service stream.
>
>We would not want to break some potentially critical application that h
On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 10:16:42 -0500, Jan MOEYERSONS wrote:
>
>My data contains UTC timestamp and I have to print the corresponding local
>time on a report. That is the local time as it was at the date the data was
>logged.
>
>My attemps so far with mktime(), localtime() and gmtime() all apply the
>o
On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 17:46:31 -0500, John McKown wrote:
>
>Personally, if I want to do this sort of thing, I use Co:Z from Dovetailed
>Technologies to run under z/OS UNIX using its piping. It is possible to run
>normal batch work via a UNIX shell. It is just a bit more difficulty to
>allocate the d
On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 14:33:39 -0700, Edward Jaffe wrote:
>On 6/12/2011 9:24 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
>> allocate dd(sysin) shr reuse dsn('sys1.maclib(nonesuch)')
>> READY
>> call *(iebgener)
>> DATA SET UTILITY - GENERATE
On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 10:01:14 +0300, Binyamin Dissen wrote:
>
>At one time OPEN non-VSAM did not have return codes. You had to check DCBOFOPN
>to see if it did its job. Seems like that has changed.
>
It hasn't changed a whole lot; it's still way easy to get Sx13 ABENDs:
READY
allocate dd(sysin) sh
On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 20:42:22 -0400, Robert A. Rosenberg wrote:
>
>Second, it should return a RC when it overrode the programmer's
>instructions so that the RC can be used to trigger some action, if
>desired, due to the request being unilaterally denied by IBM. Thus
>the action is "user unfriendly"
On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 14:00:15 -0500, Mike Schwab wrote:
>Slightly slower member search than if each DDNAME had only the members
>for that DDNAME to search. Maybe an IEBCOPY to copy named members to
>individual libraries for customers who want maximum performance?
>
PDSE? I understand PDSE directo
On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 12:50:35 -0500, Mike Schwab wrote:
>On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 10:42 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
>
>> But wouldn't a FIN APAR obviate much of the cloak-and-dagger?
>> The only thing inappropriate to a FIN APAR is preannouncing the
>> particular futur
On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 10:52:10 -0400, David Cole wrote:
>At 6/11/2011 01:29 AM, Jim Mulder wrote:
>>The particular documentation to which Ed refers is available only to
>>ISVs who are under nondisclosure. Dave Cole is among those, and
>>thus he should have access to it.
>>
>>For the rest of the IBM
On Thu, 9 Jun 2011 17:15:53 -0700, Rod Zazubek wrote:
>
>So now lets move on to a new problem
>under z/OS 1.10. I have a third-party product
>that does a LISTCAT and sometimes it cannot
>find files when the CPU is very busy.
>
If it doesn't work, that's a sign that it's broke,
and a PMR should be
On Tue, 7 Jun 2011 22:48:10 -0500, Greg Peck wrote:
>
>Is your SYSLMOD a PDSE ? (it probably needs to be)
>
Thanks. In fact, in my case that was the proper resolution.
However, in the alternative situation, where the programmer has
inadvertently introduced a long name in one of numerous CSECTs
in
I got:
IEW2640E 4B05 ONE OR MORE EXTERNAL NAMES EXCEED THE LENGTH LIMITATIONS OF
THE TARGET FORMAT.
Aw, c'mon, Binder thingy; gimme a hint, please!
M&C says only:
...
User Response: Reduce the name lengths and rerun the job, or change the
target library specification. Depending on
On Fri, 3 Jun 2011 16:06:09 -0500, Rick Fochtman wrote:
>
>>//COND2EXEC PGM=SETCOND,PARM=U111
>>// IF (COND2.RUN=TRUE OR COND2.ABENDCC=U0111) THEN
>>
>>//COND2EXEC PGM=SSCOND,PARM=U111
>>// IF (COND2.RUN=TRUE OR COND2.ABENDCC=U0111) THEN
>>
>-
On Thu, 2 Jun 2011 20:27:25 -0400, Tony Harminc wrote:
>On 2 June 2011 19:56, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
>> On Thu, 2 Jun 2011 16:29:44 -0700, Edward Jaffe wrote:
>>>
>>>Not pre-zeroed per se, but the pages are in first-reference state.
>>>
>> Is this a
On Thu, 2 Jun 2011 16:29:44 -0700, Edward Jaffe wrote:
>
>Not pre-zeroed per se, but the pages are in first-reference state.
>
Is this a hardware feature? (I haven't a PoOp (PrOp) handy.)
If not, I could envision doing it in software: point the page
table entry at a physical page containing zeroe
On Thu, 2 Jun 2011 17:25:50 -0400, Robert A. Rosenberg wrote:
>
>I might have phrased my description incorrectly. What I was saying is
>that when you initially allocate an virtual area when that area is
>actually mapped to memory the page that gets loaded (paged-in) is
>pre-zeroed. I was just sugge
On Tue, 31 May 2011 22:41:06 -0400, George, Kevin A wrote:
>
> You can set the nodename in the SYS1.PARMLIB member IKJTSO00. There is a
> section called TRANSREC that is used for the defaults for the TRANSMIT and
> RECEIVE commands.
>
You may be able to, but I may not.
This is a problem for so
On Tue, 31 May 2011 23:48:41 -0500, Jim Thomas wrote:
>Ma'am,
>
>Personally ... I'd like to see a suit between Microdaft and IBM.
>
Ummm... Which snake can open its jaws wider?
-- gil
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On Tue, 31 May 2011 23:22:08 +, Rob Scott wrote:
>One minor thing to remember that if you are dealing with lengths that are not
>a multiple of 256 bytes, then the MVC loop method is going to have to drop
>thru to an executed move for those remaining bytes. This means that you need
>address
On Tue, 31 May 2011 18:10:11 -0400, Andy Coburn wrote:
>The following is a snip from a program which I just ran on our Z10 whose
>characteristics are shown last below. The program first moved 65536 bytes
>from one location to another using MVCL and did this 1 million times. You'll
>see it took ~5
On Tue, 31 May 2011 01:23:36 -0400, Gerhard Postpischil wrote:
>
> ..., but I did find an error. When a DC
>(or other) contained a text string with a doubled quote, and the
>first landed in column 71, ASM G would consider that the end of
>string, and treat the continuation c
On Mon, 30 May 2011 04:54:50 -0700, Schwarz, Barry A wrote:
>I noticed this once and when I looked at the operator he was banging the enter
>key to refresh the display several times a second. Easy enough to check and
>if so a little OJT might be all you need.
>
There ought to be a better way.
On Sun, 29 May 2011 13:41:53 -0700, Ed Gould wrote:
>
>Hehe Gerhard, obviously a type that of course should have been 25 years ago.
>I have no experiance on LINUX but would guess it does not come with a FORTRAN
>compiler.
>
http://www.nikhef.nl/~templon/fortran.html
-- gil
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On Sat, 28 May 2011 11:53:50 -0700, Ed Gould wrote:
>
>As a previous IBMer stated IBM did it .
>I would be curious as to why (APAR,etc.).
>I know it's not a big issue but one I guess of performance(?).
>
All conjecture, but I'll suspect:
o IEFBR14 originally resided in SYS1.LINKLIB
o Subsequently
On Fri, 27 May 2011 14:41:53 -0600, Frank Swarbrick wrote:
>I prefer SPACE=(0,0)
>
I'd suggest SPACE=(0,(0,0,0)) to avoid allocating directory blocks
and secondary extents.
Being considerably whimsy challenged on Fridays, I was impelled
to try this. To my minor surprise, it executes with no JCL
On Thu, 26 May 2011 10:24:31 +0200, Michael Klaeschen wrote:
>See chapter 16.13.2 of MVS JCL Reference. IBM's explanation there does not
>differ between 0K and 0M. However, I think you can intercept with a JES
>exit and may be even IEALIMIT/IEFUSI.
>
REGION=0K requests only one-thousandth as much
On Thu, 26 May 2011 12:35:50 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
>
>If all that you care about is what's in the SYSOUT keyword on the DD
>statement, ...
>
Which may be none, if the programmer takes the system default.
> .., then looking at the SIOT will suffice. If you want to know
>what
On Thu, 26 May 2011 03:20:46 -0700, Ed Gould wrote:
>
>Missed the registration but it seems straight forward that you put it on the
>web
>page, no? Or am I expecting too much?
>
Only if you expect some people's decision to register to be contingent
on possible schedule conflicts at some particular
On Thu, 26 May 2011 03:03:57 -0700, Ed Gould wrote:
>Simple question:
>
>I was going to watch the IBM Accelerate your migration to z/OS Version 1
>Release
>12!
>
>But the web page states its at "11AM on May 26"
>
>I asked the next question 11AM eastern,central,pacific ?
>The help people are worth
On Mon, 23 May 2011 08:53:36 -0500, Ward, Mike S wrote:
> ... we have scheduled IPL's once a week ...
>
Whether you need it or not? Why?
Lingering fear of resource leaks? Operator training?
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On Mon, 23 May 2011 08:42:25 -0500, Mark Zelden wrote:
>
>Instead of running UNIX under z/OS, I think you need to start working on
>running MVS under *nix. If you start writing it now, you may have it
>done before you retire.I'm sure Paul G. will be more than happy to
>help. :-)
>
I'll ced
On Thu, 19 May 2011 08:56:49 -0500, Tim Deller wrote:
>I would try coding a wait (for a few seconds at least) after the dataset close.
>This would allow time for the deallocate and catalog update to complete.
>
Grrr. I detest designs that require the programmer to use delays
to (hopefully) resolv
On Tue, 17 May 2011 07:57:38 +0200, Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4) wrote:
>>The Unix syntax is the same whether the commands come from a Telnet
>>session or from the TSO OMVS command.
>
>Syntax: Yes
>Terminal (not command) behaviour: No
>
Surely you're not thinking of the dreadful RUNNING/INPUT toggle
(I
On Mon, 16 May 2011 18:12:18 -0500, Dan Skomsky, PSTI wrote:
>I know it isn't perfect, but Hercules with MVS 3.8J doesn't look too bad
>when you consider the cost, free. The combo runs just fine on a laptop even
>using MS VPC 2K7 to hold the Hercules guest O/S.
>
A few unanswerable questions:
Ho
On Tue, 17 May 2011 06:04:43 +1000, Wayne Bickerdike wrote:
>They are charging $2200 for a two day workshop!
>
That's a fraction of what z/OS costs otherwise.
Do participants get to keep it?
>> http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/workshops/GR0422?Open
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On Mon, 16 May 2011 08:42:32 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
>In , on 05/15/2011
> at 04:11 PM, Paul Gilmartin said:
>
>>certainly not in an interactive shell
>
>I'm not sure what you mean by an "interactive shell", nor why you
>would describe Rex
On Sun, 15 May 2011 12:34:06 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
>In , on 05/12/2011
> at 11:29 AM, Paul Gilmartin said:
>
>>o It allows function reference before definition,
>
>I consider that an advantage.
>
Perhaps in a programming language, but not if functions ar
On Thu, 12 May 2011 16:51:58 +0200, Grimmette, John wrote:
>
>We hit these problems too. However in Sourceforge there is a similar (if much
>larger, written in JAVA) program UnXmit. We find this program a whole lot
>better, AND the programmer is really helpful.
>
The URL is:
http://unxmit.so
On Thu, 12 May 2011 12:12:01 -0700, Sam Siegel wrote:
>I predict Iefbr14 will survive. No one other than IBM has sale staff good
>enough to require you to buy a program that does nothing. :-)
>
I didn't think it was separately priced.
/bin/true
>On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 12:04 PM, Pearce, Colin E
On Thu, 12 May 2011 10:38:39 -0500, John McKown wrote:
>IBM will soon be forced to change ISHELL to some other name, I'm sure.
>Because Apple will be suing them for having something computer related
>which starts with an "i". This will cause confusion in the marketplace
>for Apple products. Speaki
On Thu, 12 May 2011 10:29:48 -0500, Kirk Wolf wrote:
>
>Agreed. ISHELL can be useful, but the name itself is a false assertion :-)
>
Does it preserve the environment (CWD, umask, variables, ...) between
commands? And, of course, you can't put a command in background.
I've sometimes imagined Rex
On Thu, 12 May 2011 22:42:17 +1000, Shane wrote:
>S ...
>
>Try as I might to avoid contributing to this, I just read a paper on
>Oracle RAC on z.
>Can you believe those people use CPU as an acronym for "Critical Patch
>Updates" ???.
>A software package for pitys sake ...
>
Then there should be
On Wed, 11 May 2011 10:29:00 -0500, Mary Anne Matyaz wrote:
>Hello all. On Wed, May 4, at 4:30AM, our HMC dialed out to NIST ACTS service
>for the time, and determined that a five second adjustment was needed. This
>of course, takes until Thur at 9PM to complete. At 4:30AM Friday, when it
>dialed
On Wed, 11 May 2011 11:10:22 -0400, Mark Jacobs wrote:
>listc ent('MVSISV.COZ.LOAD') all
>
The magic word is ALL. Who would of thunk it?
Thanks again,
gil
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On Wed, 11 May 2011 10:32:10 -0400, Mark Jacobs wrote:
>
>A LISTC on the alias catalog entry should show you.
>
>ALIAS - MVSISV.COZ.LOAD
> IN-CAT --- SYS1.ICFUCAT.DATACTR.PROD
> HISTORY
>RELEASE2
> ASSOCIATIONS
>SYMBOLIC-MVSISV.COZ.&COZLEVEL..L
My job fails with:
IEF212I ALIASES PROBE XXX - DATA SET NOT FOUND
The DSN in the JCL was defined as an alias with SYMBOLICRELATE.
Is there any simple way to discover the name to which the symbolic
alias was resolved, which then failed catalog lookup?
"simple" to me does not include chasing
On Mon, 2 May 2011 15:17:05 +, john gilmore wrote:
>
>It is useful, even highly desirable to provide enough context to disambiguate
>an acronym when it has several senses in common use among the members of some
>group, readers of IBM-MAIN posts, say.
>
Not much to take sides in the initial d
On Mon, 9 May 2011 08:10:57 -0700, Ron Hawkins wrote:
>
>I suspect that when you add a member to a PDS using ISPF that you are not
>satisfying all of the conditions described in "USING DATASETS 3.2.5.4
>Releasing Space." I leave to other to define which one it may be, or
>disagree.
>
>My guess is t
On Sun, 8 May 2011 18:37:03 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
>
>I'm not denying that the OMVS command is klunky, nor that it imposes
>restrictions not dictated either by the 3270 or by TSO I/O services.
>But sometimes it is more convenient than maintaining separate
>sessions.
>
OTOH, sometime
On Sun, 8 May 2011 18:27:48 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
>
>Well, I would certainly say that I was FTP'ing under Unix unless I had
>an FTP cleint with classic TSO syntax ...
>
Does one exist? I'm imagining something such as:
GET INDATASET('SYS1.MACLIB(SPLEVEL)') -
OUTDATASET
On Sun, 8 May 2011 00:34:07 +1000, Shane wrote:
>Like a few others, I put up with whatever IBM marketing comes up
>with for their (pseudo) posix compliant bolt-on.
I have some sympathy with the "pseudo" part. Particularly, I
wish USS (only an A-R moron would raise the specter of ambiguity
or imp
On Fri, 6 May 2011 08:28:01 -0500, John McKown wrote:
>
>-- Forwarded message --
>
???
So you don't post from work; you email from work to your Android
and post by forwarding?
>I would like the concensus of opinion on something for SDSF. There is an
>function to "print" sysout to
he spirit of the question I asked; no offense.
>Incidentally, the list tradition of quoting the post to which you are
>responding
>also has some merit. I was obliged to dig out those posts to which I happened
>to recall you were referring:
>
>1. Paul Gilmartin
>
>> Is TCP/IP
On Thu, 5 May 2011 08:55:15 -0400, Rob Schramm wrote:
>I might understand (due to "I don't want to set it up") not setting up SSH.
> But are there any installations not running TCP/IP these days?
>
I should add we have SSH installed but not successfully configured
on some of our systems because we
On Thu, 5 May 2011 08:55:15 -0400, Rob Schramm wrote:
>I might understand (due to "I don't want to set it up") not setting up SSH.
> But are there any installations not running TCP/IP these days?
>
Some of our lab systems don't; they rely on shared DASD. Described
as an economy measure. Is TCP/I
On Thu, 5 May 2011 07:26:59 -0400, Rob Schramm wrote:
>
>I am curious about your last statement. While I can understand not allowing
>telnet/rlogin, what would be the reasoning for denying SSH access?
>
Of course and alas, SSH is not in the base installation.
-- gil
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On Wed, 4 May 2011 17:45:01 +0800, ibmnew wrote:
>
> In our shop we don't have any tapelib.
>
> Do you need to implement HSM ?
>
In fact, IBM early proposed HSM as an alternative to tape
libraries, asserting that careful configuration of HSM should
reduce mount traffic to a point that manual moun
On Wed, 4 May 2011 15:46:53 +0800, Timothy Sipples wrote:
>
>The former, for the most part. But the latter is also interesting. Speaking
>of which, has anyone tried to compile the "mined" editor for z/OS UNIX
>System Services? That particular editor claims to be a stand-out for
>Unicode support on
On Tue, 3 May 2011 17:27:57 -0400, Tony Harminc wrote:
>On 3 May 2011 01:30, Timothy Sipples wrote:
>
>> I'm wondering what IBM-MAINers like to use for editing Unicode (UTF-8,
>> UTF-16, and/or UTF-32) "files" on z/OS.
>
>Sadly, UTF-EBCDIC, although invented by IBM 10+ years ago, has never
>taken
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