SSI update

2013-09-11 Thread mf db
Hello All, I am trying to understand if Dynamic SSI update can overlay the storage. Could someone please shed some light on dynamic SSI update. Peter -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email

Re: SSI update

2013-09-11 Thread Lizette Koehler
I am a little confused by "overlay storage" Are you asking can it cause an abend by overlaying storage? Or are you asking if when you deactivate/active SSI does it replace what was there with new information? Could you clarify more of what direction you question is going? Is there a problem or

Re: NTP server with System z for PCI-DSS compliance

2013-09-11 Thread Timothy Sipples
Radoslaw Skorupka writes: >Although PCI-DSS does not mention explicitly NTP, but this is the only >solution for mainframe, which in turn requires STP enablement, which >means $$$, which is quite unique among other platforms, because others >can act as NTP client for free. No, you cannot assume tha

Re: SSI update

2013-09-11 Thread mf db
Hello Lizette, Yes, My question can it cause any abend by overlaying storage ? On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 2:43 PM, Lizette Koehler wrote: > I am a little confused by "overlay storage" > > Are you asking can it cause an abend by overlaying storage? > > Or are you asking if when you deactivate/activ

Re: Dynamic CALL counts from LE?

2013-09-11 Thread Binyamin Dissen
Well, The COBOL compiler compiles the dynamic call to a call to a COBOL service routine passing the name of the module. That service routine looks up the module in its tables and will do a direct call if found or load and add if not found. You can try to frontend that COBOL service routine. On T

Re: Dynamic CALL counts from LE?

2013-09-11 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 17:56:30 -0400 John Gilmore wrote: :>There are of course current usage counts maintained by the z/OS :>contents supervisor, but they are NOT cumulative. If I wanted to :>collect such counts in the short term, i.e., to instrument some small :>set of LOADs and DELETEs I guess t

Re: Currently dispatched TCB in SRB mode

2013-09-11 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 11:58:04 -0400 "Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)" wrote: :>In :>, :>on 09/10/2013 :> at 07:34 AM, Peter Relson said: :>>True. But it does not need to. Disablement of "your" CPU is the :>>serialization that is required. :>For accessing the PSA of a different CPU? With disablemen

Re: PDS/E, Shared Dasd, and COBOL V5

2013-09-11 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <0de6a9840123e547b061ac5b6765c026bd0...@exmb-05.ad.wsu.edu>, on 09/10/2013 at 02:44 AM, "Gibney, Dave" said: >Yes, PDS/E shared outside of Sysplex is a problem if the sharing >is not close to strictly read only. Specifically, address spaces >with the PDS/E open in LPAR A will not like it

Re: NTP server with System z for PCI-DSS compliance

2013-09-11 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 09/11/2013 at 05:17 PM, Timothy Sipples said: >By the way, I'm rather tired of the implicit and explicit >criticisms that Server Time Protocol (STP) has a separate charge. The criticism is *not* that STP has a separate charge, but rather that the automated setting of the time *ON A S

Re: PDS/E, Shared Dasd, and COBOL V5

2013-09-11 Thread Bob Shannon
>Also, aren't there sharing issues even for R/O Or am I thinking of zFS? We share PDSEs read-only with our guests under VM. Everything is fine as long as there are no changes to the library. If the library is changed, the guests won't know about it and the results are unpredictable (but probably

Re: DFSMShsm and backing up ZFS files

2013-09-11 Thread Jonathan Miller
Hi all, After adding a new DFSMS MC that had AUTOBACKUP(YES) and doing an alter for all the ZFS datasets to move them into this new MC. I also changed the ACS routines in case a new one get created. I was hopeful this morning run would back up our ZFS files. Didn't happen. I had the INCREMENTAL

Re: Teletypewriter Model 33

2013-09-11 Thread Ian
I think the 1403 will be best remembered for it's musical capabilities. http://mail.computerhistory.org/pipermail/1401_software/2009-February/000289.html Ian On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 11:45 PM, Scott Ford wrote: > Gerhard, > We used to print bills on a 1403 with a special OCR print train and hig

Re: PDS/E, Shared Dasd, and COBOL V5

2013-09-11 Thread Mark Zelden
For what it's worth, my client has been using PDSE for all their production loadlibs, source libraries, proclibs, etc. (managed by Endevor) since sometime just after Y2K. The initial reason I pushed for it was occasional JES2 PROC issues after weekly compress jobs would run. The only proble

Re: PDS/E, Shared Dasd, and COBOL V5

2013-09-11 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 11 Sep 2013 07:57:47 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: >In <0de6a9840123e547b061ac5b6765c026bd0...@exmb-05.ad.wsu.edu>, on >09/10/2013 > at 02:44 AM, "Gibney, Dave" said: > >>Yes, PDS/E shared outside of Sysplex is a problem if the sharing >>is not close to strictly read only. Sp

IBM Systems Magazine, Sep/Oct 2013

2013-09-11 Thread zMan
Cover has picture of Pat Toole. I don't really care what the manager of System z looks like, but OK, I can deal with that. But then we get to the article, which repeats the same FULL PAGE picture. And then we turn the page, and there's yet another picture. Is someone at IBMSM in love with Toole?!

Re: DFSMShsm and backing up ZFS files

2013-09-11 Thread Lizette Koehler
Jonathan, Did you see this entry in the Unix Manual? DFSMShsm z/OS V1R11.0 UNIX System Services Planning z/OS V1R11.0 GA22-7800-17 Unlike other non-VSAM data sets that can be opened and closed repeatedly throughout the day, some file systems are often mounted for several days or weeks at a

Re: SSI update

2013-09-11 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 09/11/2013 at 01:02 PM, mf db said: >I am trying to understand if Dynamic SSI update can overlay the >storage. If you provide your own subsystem, it can overlay storage; it doesn't matter whether you specify it in IEFSSNxx or in IEFSSI. Unless there is a bug in it, IEFSSI doesn't over

Re: Teletypewriter Model 33

2013-09-11 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
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Re: Teletypewriter Model 33

2013-09-11 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <1628372020520296.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu>, on 09/09/2013 at 09:32 PM, Paul Gilmartin said: > Why does DSN(*) exist at all? To accomodate batch applications under TSO. >What you suggest is more like batch than interactive. EDIT is like batch? In what way? >It was a progr

Re: Teletypewriter Model 33

2013-09-11 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <6865411767021646.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu>, on 09/10/2013 at 01:00 AM, Paul Gilmartin said: >But how much IBM software in 1978 actually exploited it? Batch or interactive? IBM interactive software exploited lower case long before the date you asked about. >TTY 33 ASR Did

Re: Teletypewriter Model 33

2013-09-11 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 09/10/2013 at 02:29 AM, efinnell15 said: >There was a 'Universal Train'. I don't remember the number. Probably UN on the 1403 and U11 on the 3211. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT Atid/2 We don't care. We don't have to care

Re: Teletypewriter Model 33

2013-09-11 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <029201ceae5d$2b0a7420$811f5c60$@mxg.com>, on 09/10/2013 at 02:37 PM, Barry Merrill said: >I vaguely recall benchmarking the print time of several Print Trains >in the early 70s, and my memory of specifics was weak, but I know I >identified three or four specific IDs that were 2 to 3 times

Re: DFSMShsm and backing up ZFS files

2013-09-11 Thread Jonathan Miller
Lizette, Yes I saw that article. If I read it correctly DFSMShsm should backup the ZFS files by doing a quiesce. Our files do not have a backup at all. Is this because they are mounted and AUTOBACKUP can't get the quiesce possibly. I am doing some more digging on my end to see what's up. Is th

Re: PDS/E, Shared Dasd, and COBOL V5

2013-09-11 Thread Thomas Berg
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Mark Zelden > Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 3:43 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: PDS/E, Shared Dasd, and COBOL V5 > > For what it's worth, my client has been u

Re: DFSMShsm and backing up ZFS files

2013-09-11 Thread Lizette Koehler
Jonathan, To make sure I understand. You have a storage group with GBF and the zFS files are in that Storage Group? When you do an (H)BACKDS or UNMOUNT/MOUNT there are no backups of that zFS file? If the file is mounted READ/WRITE the backup is occurring where that zFS file is mounted? Please

Re: DFSMShsm and backing up ZFS files

2013-09-11 Thread Jousma, David
As someone else mentioned, what happens when you do a manual HBACK command on one of those ZFS filesystems? _ Dave Jousma Assistant Vice President, Mainframe Engineering david.jou...@53.com 1830 East Paris, Grand Rapids, MI  49546 MD

Re: DFSMShsm and backing up ZFS files

2013-09-11 Thread Jonathan Miller
Lizette, I do not have the zfs files in a SG with GBF. I may have to do that to get this to work or just setup a DFDSS batch job and let it back them up. thanks for all the responses, I'll pursue what Lizette recommended and see if that helps. Jonathan Miller AES/PHEAA IT-Tech Services System

Re: Teletypewriter Model 33

2013-09-11 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
l...@garlic.com (Anne & Lynn Wheeler) writes: > How ASCII Came About > http://www.bobbemer.com/ASCII.HTM > HOW ASCII GOT ITS BACKSLASH > http://www.bobbemer.com/BACSLASH.HTM re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#33 Teletypewriter Model 33 for other drift Bob's history index http://www.bobb

Re: SSI update

2013-09-11 Thread Jon Perryman
I'm also confused by your question. What makes you ask this question? What did you read or hear about that made you ask this question? Are you talking about the "subsystem interface" or is SSI in reference to something else? Any time a program moves information to storage, it is overlaying stora

Re: DFSMShsm and backing up ZFS files

2013-09-11 Thread Jonathan Miller
If I do the HBACKDS it works and that is through HSM. So the autobackup should also work in theory. Jonathan Miller AES/PHEAA IT-Tech Services Systems Programmer (717) 720-2763 (Desk) (717) 554-3663 (Cell) This message contains privileged and confidential information intended for the above addres

z/OS, z/VM , z/VSE Training and number of delegates

2013-09-11 Thread Terry Sambrooks
Hi The recent comments in the Trainer's Friend closure posting about courses not being run because of too few delegates is interesting. I know of one training provider who does runs courses for as few as 1 delegate. (It is always hoped that more delegates would sign up before the actual course ru

Re: DFSMShsm and backing up ZFS files

2013-09-11 Thread Miklos Szigetvari
Hi Jonathan I have no experience with DFSMShsm, but we are using ADRDSSU to backup our ZFS files, and during the backup there is a quiesce. Our long running USS processes are complaining as they have no access during this quiesce period. So seems to me not the DFSMShsm but the data mover makes

IEE313I when varying a console online

2013-09-11 Thread גדי בן אבי
Hi, I am in the process of installing a 2074 for a client. I know it's ancient, and unsupported, but everything this client has is ancient and unsupported. I managed to get a working console session on the 2074. When I try to configure PCOM, I get the 2074 index message. When I try to vary the

Re: IEE313I when varying a console online

2013-09-11 Thread Alan Field
Is device xxx defined in the IOCDS. Is xxx defined in the CONSOLxx member. - Original Message - From: "גדי בן אבי" [gad...@malam.com] Sent: 09/11/2013 06:35 PM ZE3 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: IEE313I when varying a console online Hi, I am in the process of installing a 2074

Re: PDS/E, Shared Dasd, and COBOL V5

2013-09-11 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 11 Sep 2013 16:46:49 +0200, Thomas Berg wrote: >Have you any experience about performance differences to vanilla PDS. >E g in IMS TP ? No. Performance is most likely better than it was (although I never measured it before and after way back then) and my client doesn't have the "huge

Re: IEE313I when varying a console online

2013-09-11 Thread John McKown
Is the address specified exist in the I/O configuration? D U,,,,1 gives back valid information. If so, what is it's status? It needs to be OFFLINE before it can be varied as a CONSOLE. And it needs to be specified in the CONSOLxx member which was specified at IPL time. On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at

Re: Teletypewriter Model 33

2013-09-11 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 11 Sep 2013 09:03:18 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: > on 09/09/2013 at 09:32 PM, Paul Gilmartin said: > >> Why does DSN(*) exist at all? > >To accomodate batch applications under TSO. > >>What you suggest is more like batch than interactive. > >EDIT is like batch? In what way? >

Re: FW: JES2 "Node" Question

2013-09-11 Thread Ron Wells
if your objective is to transfer sysout from one node to another and the other node is defined todaythen transfer to other node s/b just a matter of putting that node and go I do this between my test /prod and devl lpars... prod/devl share a spool...the test is seperate From: "Hansen

Re: FW: JES2 "Node" Question

2013-09-11 Thread Ron Wells
understand VPS---like many software packages...getting to $$$ we switched to JQP...did same thing...much cheaper.sna and ip supported... From: "Hansen, Dave L - Eagan, MN" To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date: 09/11/2013 10:50 AM Subject:FW: JES2 "Node" Question Sent by:

Re: DFSMShsm and backing up ZFS files

2013-09-11 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 11 Sep 2013 07:24:23 -0700, Lizette Koehler wrote: > >z/OS V1R11.0 UNIX System Services Planning z/OS V1R11.0 GA22-7800-17 > >Unlike other non-VSAM data sets that can be opened and closed repeatedly >throughout the day, some file systems are often mounted for several days or >weeks at

Re: FW: JES2 "Node" Question

2013-09-11 Thread Ron Wells
sounds like you have a destid parm in jes2parm... ck your def's---both locations...you have any other exits inplace that mess with remote/dest id's?? From: "Hansen, Dave L - Eagan, MN" To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date: 09/11/2013 10:50 AM Subject:FW: JES2 "Node" Question Sent

How to display JES2 fields from the PDDB

2013-09-11 Thread Hansen, Dave L - Eagan, MN
Dear Group, I am debugging a JES2 EXIT40. I was asked what do the fields PDBDNODE, PDBDRMT and PDBUSER contain. I am told PDBDRMT may not contain a non-zero value. There is no command which will give me this information. I am told I can set a slip trap on entry to the exit and take a dum

Re: NTP server with System z for PCI-DSS compliance

2013-09-11 Thread John McKown
The "problem" is that z/OS _cannot_ allow the TOD clock (hardware clock) to go "backwards". The way that STP addresses this is that the STP software can "speed up" or "slow down" the TOD increment pulse (or whatever it's called). This is the hardware portion of STP. And I think that hardware additi

Re: COBOL "problem" (not really), but sort of.

2013-09-11 Thread John McKown
I can try that. The programmer says that he intents to define the passed in area in the calling program at the front of his WORKING-STORAGE so that the area is larger. I.e. it is _planning_ on a buffer overflow and _hoping_ that it doesn't affect the calling program. I don't have authority to disal

Re: PDS/E, Shared Dasd, and COBOL V5

2013-09-11 Thread Thomas Berg
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Mark Zelden > Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 6:24 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: PDS/E, Shared Dasd, and COBOL V5 > > On Wed, 11 Sep 2013 16:46:49 +0200, Thoma

Re: COBOL "problem" (not really), but sort of.

2013-09-11 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
READ xxx INTO yyy is COBOL shorthand for READ xxx followed by MOVE xxx-record-area to yyy. COBOL MOVE's (even implied moves) are *supposed* to respect the value of the OCCURS DEPENDING ON variable value, so this *should* work with no programmer intervention, but I haven't actually done exactly

COBOL "problem" (not really), but sort of.

2013-09-11 Thread John McKown
A programmer came by today with a problem. He is sometimes getting a S0C4-4 abend in a COBOL program. This is a subroutine. One of the parameters passed in is a data area, which can be of various lengths. It is defined with an OCCURS DEPENDING ON with a data element within the area. I.e. the first

Re: NTP server with System z for PCI-DSS compliance

2013-09-11 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2013-09-11 11:17, Timothy Sipples pisze: Radoslaw Skorupka writes: Although PCI-DSS does not mention explicitly NTP, but this is the only solution for mainframe, which in turn requires STP enablement, which means $$$, which is quite unique among other platforms, because others can act as

Re: COBOL "problem" (not really), but sort of.

2013-09-11 Thread Thomas Berg
I would say: the READ .. INTO .. statement doesn't look at the numerical value in the length field, it only looks at the max possible length as defined. And acts accordingly. Best Regards Thomas Berg ___ Thomas Berg Specialist

Re: COBOL "problem" (not really), but sort of.

2013-09-11 Thread Joel C. Ewing
On 09/11/2013 12:02 PM, John McKown wrote: > A programmer came by today with a problem. He is sometimes getting a S0C4-4 > abend in a COBOL program. This is a subroutine. One of the parameters > passed in is a data area, which can be of various lengths. It is defined > with an OCCURS DEPENDING ON w

Re: COBOL "problem" (not really), but sort of.

2013-09-11 Thread Frank Swarbrick
Are you able to post a code snippet of what the code is actually doing?  Others seem to understand from your description what is occurring, but I understand code better. Frank > > From: John McKown >To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >Sent: Wednesday, September 11,

Re: IEE313I when varying a console online

2013-09-11 Thread Alan Field
Have you IPL'd the system since it was added to the CONSOLxx member? There is no way (until z/OS 2.1) to dynamically add a console. Alan Field Technical Engineer Principal BCBS Minnesota Phone: 651.662.3546 Mobile: 651.428.8826 From: "גדי בן אבי" To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU, Dat

Re: PDS/E, Shared Dasd, and COBOL V5

2013-09-11 Thread Mark Zelden
>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU On >> >> Behalf Of Mark Zelden >> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 6:24 PM >> >> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

Re: COBOL "problem" (not really), but sort of.

2013-09-11 Thread John McKown
What you said was basically what I told the programmer to do. What he really wants is for the READ INTO to do is to read in the record "somewhere" (i.e. the I/O buffer). The ODO value is within the record itself. So he was wanting COBOL to effectively do a MOVE of the ODO variable, then do the

Re: IEE313I when varying a console online

2013-09-11 Thread גדי בן אבי
Hi The answer is yes to both questions. I can very it online, but I cannot vary console. The output from D U is O or OFFLINE. Is is defined in the consolexx member. Gadi From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of John Mc

Re: IEE313I when varying a console online

2013-09-11 Thread Bill Bishop (TEMA TPC)
Do you have the /con entry in the parameters section of the 2074 definitions for the terminal being used as a console? Thanks Bill Bishop Specialist Mainframe Support Group Server Development & Support Toyota Motor Engineering & Manufacturing North America, Inc. bill.bis...@tema.toyota.com (502

1403 Printer components manual GA24-3073-3

2013-09-11 Thread efinnell15
http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/ibm/140x/GA24-3073-8_1403_printer.pdf Found this on bitsavers. I remember the lid would come open when the paper ran out, normally right after the shift supervisor put their beverage cup on it. The ribbon stopped along with the paper when overprinting. If d

Re: The Trainer's Friend Going Out Of Business Sale

2013-09-11 Thread Linda Mooney
Hi Steve, I wish you only the best - and lots of it.  Sorry to hear that the business is closing.  38 years is a long run.  Hope we will still see you on the list. Thanks and Best Regards, Linda - Original Message - From: "Steve Comstock" To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU S

Re: PDS/E, Shared Dasd, and COBOL V5

2013-09-11 Thread Gibney, Dave
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > On Behalf Of Mark Zelden > Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 6:58 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: PDS/E, Shared Dasd, and COBOL V5 > > On Wed, 11 Sep 2013 07:57:47 -0400, Shm

Re: NTP server with System z for PCI-DSS compliance

2013-09-11 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 11 Sep 2013 12:12:14 -0500, John McKown wrote: >The "problem" is that z/OS _cannot_ allow the TOD clock (hardware clock) to >go "backwards". The way that STP addresses this is that the STP software >can "speed up" or "slow down" the TOD increment pulse (or whatever it's >called). This is t

Re: COBOL "problem" (not really), but sort of.

2013-09-11 Thread Jon Perryman
How about not making this about padding. My guess would be that cobol clears the storage before the read instead of padding storage after the read. I would telling the programmer: Before a READ INTO, the storage is cleared with nulls. The size of the area to be cleared is set by his program in

Re: 1403 Printer components manual GA24-3073-3

2013-09-11 Thread John McKown
Also, on DOS, I remember some sort of command the operator could issue to open it. I don't remember what the CCW was called, perhaps "open gate"? On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 1:39 PM, efinnell15 wrote: > > http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/ibm/140x/GA24-3073-8_1403_printer.pdf > > Found this on

Re: PDS/E, Shared Dasd, and COBOL V5

2013-09-11 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 11 Sep 2013 19:08:19 +, Gibney, Dave wrote: >> >> Neither. zFS can safely be shared R/O outside sysplex / GRS >> boundaries. BTW, with PDSESHARING(NORMAL), PDSE can >

Re: How to display JES2 fields from the PDDB

2013-09-11 Thread Hansen, Dave L - Eagan, MN
Ed, Thank you for the suggestion. We do not have (E)JES, but I looked it up. Thanks again , Dave -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Ed Jaffe Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 11:50 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSER

Re: COBOL "problem" (not really), but sort of.

2013-09-11 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
If I am not misremembering, Mr. Robert Heinlein's character Lazurus Long said: "Ignorance is curable, only stupidity is fatal." Second, let's try one more time to penetrate the thick cranial boundary in question (not yours): IF the FILE definition looks like this: FD IN-FILE ... . 01 FILE-

Re: The Trainer's Friend Going Out Of Business Sale

2013-09-11 Thread Steve Comstock
On 9/11/2013 1:11 PM, Linda Mooney wrote: Hi Steve, I wish you only the best - and lots of it. Sorry to hear that the business is closing. 38 years is a long run. Hope we will still see you on the list. Thanks and Best Regards, Linda Thanks, Linda. So, we got your order, but I'm c

Re: The Trainer's Friend Going Out Of Business Sale

2013-09-11 Thread Steve Comstock
Oooops. Sorry. Not meant for the list. -Steve On 9/11/2013 2:06 PM, Steve Comstock wrote: On 9/11/2013 1:11 PM, Linda Mooney wrote: Hi Steve, I wish you only the best - and lots of it. Sorry to hear that the business is closing. 38 years is a long run. Hope we will still see you on th

Re: COBOL "problem" (not really), but sort of.

2013-09-11 Thread John McKown
Well explained. I will keep this to show him when this next abends. It is a problem just waiting for a critical month end to come around. On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 3:11 PM, Farley, Peter x23353 < peter.far...@broadridge.com> wrote: > If I am not misremembering, Mr. Robert Heinlein's character Lazu

Re: 1403 Printer components manual GA24-3073-3

2013-09-11 Thread Tony Harminc
On 11 September 2013 15:03, John McKown wrote: > Also, on DOS, I remember some sort of command the operator could issue to > open it. I don't remember what the CCW was called, perhaps "open gate"? The handy S/370 yellow card on my desk (the March 1974 version) shows the 3211 having a "Raise Cover

Re: 1403 Printer components manual GA24-3073-3

2013-09-11 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 11 Sep 2013 13:39:26 -0500, efinnell15 wrote: >http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/ibm/140x/GA24-3073-8_1403_printer.pdf > >Found this on bitsavers. I remember the lid would come open when the paper ran >out, normally right after the shift supervisor put their beverage cup on it. >The

Re: COBOL "problem" (not really), but sort of.

2013-09-11 Thread Thomas Berg
I thought the length field was in LINKAGE SECTION given by the caller ? Best Regards Thomas Berg ___ Thomas Berg Specialist zOS\RQM\IT Delivery SWEDBANK AB (Publ) > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussi

Re: COBOL "problem" (not really), but sort of.

2013-09-11 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
That will work, but I can't tell from John's original post if in his case the occurs-depending on AND the "record varying" data names are the same. The fact that they are all the same in your example is what makes it work. If all the "depending on" parts are the same name, your technique will

Re: COBOL "problem" (not really), but sort of.

2013-09-11 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
True, John did say that in his original post. But the principal is the same -- the occurs-depending-on variable in the TO area must be set before the MOVE for the length that the programmer wants to be moved, whether more or exactly as much as the input record area, or even less for that matter

Re: 1403 Printer components manual GA24-3073-3

2013-09-11 Thread Gerhard Postpischil
On 9/11/2013 2:39 PM, efinnell15 wrote: in two. The paper tapes for forms control were like gold with special forms. In a pinch could be duplicated with a hole punch and cellophane tape. IIRC, these were mylar tapes, and came fairly late. We used heavy duty paper that came with an attached mar

Re: COBOL "problem" (not really), but sort of.

2013-09-11 Thread John McKown
I have now studied the program source. Let's just drop this discussion because the program is junk. FD XDF-FILE. 01 XDF-RECORD 02 XDF-REC-LNG S9(5)COMP +400 02 FILLER X(04) SPACES 02 XDF-KEY X(16)

Re: PDS/E, Shared Dasd, and COBOL V5

2013-09-11 Thread John Gilmore
I had begun to think that my experience with PDSEs was somehow atypical, too lucky, because I had not encountered the grievous problems that featured in others' war stories. I therefore spent a long afternoon trying to reproduce and clear some of these problems. My experience was much like Mark's

Re: COBOL "problem" (not really), but sort of.

2013-09-11 Thread Frank Swarbrick
I'm not sure if I'm understanding this 100% correctly, but take a look at this:  identification division.  program-id.  vlen.  environment division.  input-output section.  file-control. select vlen-file     assign to vlenfl.  data division.  file section.  fd  vlen-file record v

Re: COBOL "problem" (not really), but sort of.

2013-09-11 Thread Frank Swarbrick
I agree. > > From: "Farley, Peter x23353" >To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 3:02 PM >Subject: Re: COBOL "problem" (not really), but sort of. > > >That will work, but I can't tell from John's original post if in his case the >oc

Re: Currently dispatched TCB in SRB mode

2013-09-11 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <0fl0391cl08fpq7fjacml790i0ukfv2...@4ax.com>, on 09/11/2013 at 02:40 PM, Binyamin Dissen said: >With disablement, you can guarantee that your processor will not be >interrupted between fetching the address and accessing it You can not, however, be guarntied that another processor won't ch

Re: COBOL "problem" (not really), but sort of.

2013-09-11 Thread Thomas Berg
OMG Best Regards Thomas Berg ___ Thomas Berg Specialist zOS\RQM\IT Delivery SWEDBANK AB (Publ) > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of John McKown > S

Re: PDS/E, Shared Dasd, and COBOL V5

2013-09-11 Thread Gibney, Dave
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > On Behalf Of Mark Zelden > Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 12:34 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: PDS/E, Shared Dasd, and COBOL V5 > > On Wed, 11 Sep 2013 19:08:19 +, Gi

Re: 1403 Printer components manual GA24-3073-3

2013-09-11 Thread Tony Babonas
Ah, what non-fond memories! We had a computer room operator that was sensitive to the IBM provided glue, which had a potent aroma. We found that a 1 inch length of ordinary scotch tape, cut in two lengthwise, worked well and outlasted the actual CC tape itself. Eventually the sprocket holes

Paper: z/OS WebSphere and J2EE Security

2013-09-11 Thread Ed Gould
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FW: JES2 "Node" Question

2013-09-11 Thread Hansen, Dave L - Eagan, MN
I request for knowledge. CROSS POSTED to JES2 and IBM. From: Hansen, Dave L - Eagan, MN Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 10:45 AM To: 'jes...@listserv.vt.edu'; 'i...@listserv.uark.edu' Subject: JES2 "Node" Question Dear Group, I have been working with IBM to Implement a JES2 EXIT 40. I a

Re: COBOL "problem" (not really), but sort of.

2013-09-11 Thread Frank Swarbrick
If you're still up for it... The program you've posted is not valid COBOL.  Did you retype it?  Or do you have some sort of pre-processor that converts it to valid COBOL?  Even forgetting that, I don't see how this could possibly ever work.  XDF-RECORDV is an implicit redefines of XDF-RECORD. 

Re: COBOL "problem" (not really), but sort of.

2013-09-11 Thread John McKown
Thanks. I'll point him to it. He has already, somewhat jokingly, said "fix it!" But COBOL doesn't have the DWIW (Do What I Want) verb. On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 12:46 PM, Sambataro, Anthony (NIH/NBS) [E] < anthony.sambat...@nih.gov> wrote: > Could you point the programmer to the COBOL Reference an

Re: COBOL "problem" (not really), but sort of.

2013-09-11 Thread Sambataro, Anthony (NIH/NBS) [E]
Could you point the programmer to the COBOL Reference and the following section? Alignment rules . Alphanumeric, alphanumeric-edited, alphabetic, DBCS For these receiving items, the following rules apply: 1. The data is aligned at the leftmost character position, and (if necessary)

Re: How to display JES2 fields from the PDDB

2013-09-11 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 9/11/2013 9:01 AM, Hansen, Dave L - Eagan, MN wrote: Dear Group, I am debugging a JES2 EXIT40. I was asked what do the fields PDBDNODE, PDBDRMT and PDBUSER contain. I am told PDBDRMT may not contain a non-zero value. There is no command which will give me this information. I am told

Re: How to display JES2 fields from the PDDB

2013-09-11 Thread Joe D'Alessandro
Hello: You may be better served by using an IF SLIP and writing trace records (A=TRACE) to a GTF that specifies TRACE=SLIP so that you can get a greater variety of PDDB iterations. A dump is going to just get you one PDDB at that point in time. Use $DMOD(modname) to get the address of the ex

Re: COBOL "problem" (not really), but sort of.

2013-09-11 Thread John McKown
Cut and paste, but only a small portion from a CompuWare CWMPMAIN COBOL listing. Didn't really clean it up properly. On Sep 11, 2013 5:58 PM, "Frank Swarbrick" wrote: > If you're still up for it... > > The program you've posted is not valid COBOL. Did you retype it? Or do > you have some sort o

Re: COBOL "problem" (not really), but sort of.

2013-09-11 Thread Hardee, Chuck
You do realize that +1077952576 is the same as x'40404040' which is the value of the FILLER field in the first 01. This may be an alignment issue in addition to expecting to get something for nothing from COBOL. Charles (Chuck) Hardee Senior Systems Engineer/Database Administration CCG Informa

Re: Currently dispatched TCB in SRB mode

2013-09-11 Thread Jim Mulder
> >With disablement, you can guarantee that your processor will not be > >interrupted between fetching the address and accessing it > > You can not, however, be guarntied that another processor won't change > anything. What happens if z/OS is in the middle of taking the other > CPU offline? CPU

Re: Currently dispatched TCB in SRB mode

2013-09-11 Thread Micheal Butz
This delay offline processing for a nano second or less would that have any impact ? Sent from my iPhone On Sep 11, 2013, at 8:43 PM, Jim Mulder wrote: >>> With disablement, you can guarantee that your processor will not be >>> interrupted between fetching the address and accessing it >> >> Y

Re: COBOL "problem" (not really), but sort of.

2013-09-11 Thread John McKown
Doesn't surprise me. We get blank and zero overlays all the time. What I really needed, and have, is a good way to explain what is happening and how he is misunderstanding what is needed in COBOL, according to the manual. I am not a COBOL programmer. And I explain things is assembler ways, which so

Wait all CPU's enabled at least once

2013-09-11 Thread Jon Perryman
Is there an instruction that waits for all CPU's to be enabled at least once? Jon Perryman. - Original Message - > From: Jim Mulder >  > CPU Offline processing turns off the CSD alive bit, and zeros the > PCCAVT and LCCAVT entries for the CPU that is going offline.  Then > a Bind Brea

Re: Wait all CPU's enabled at least once

2013-09-11 Thread Jim Mulder
> Is there an instruction that waits for all CPU's to be enabled at least once? No. Bind Break does a SIGP EMS (via the RISGNL macro) to every processor, and RISGNL spins until the target processor accepts and processes the EMS external interrupt, and it has to be enabled to accept the interr

Re: IEE313I when varying a console online

2013-09-11 Thread גדי בן אבי
Hi Bill, I haven't seen any mention of a /con parameter in the documentation I have. Gadi -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Bill Bishop (TEMA TPC) Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 9:02 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

Re: SSI update

2013-09-11 Thread mf db
Hello Sir, Apology for the confusion, Recently in one of my test system I added a subsystem to SSI and i have started experiencing recursive abends. After adding I started seeing some of the STC which were started taking more Real storage(Which Usually doesn't take much during normal). On Wed, S

Re: PDS/E, Shared Dasd, and COBOL V5

2013-09-11 Thread nitz-...@gmx.net
> >Thanks! BTW, with "huge", are we talking about >> 1 members ? > > Generally, yes - because of the way things are split between different major > applications. I looked and saw one loadlib with about 20,000 members, > but most are under 5K. Are we also talking about PDSEs w

Re: PDS/E, Shared Dasd, and COBOL V5

2013-09-11 Thread nitz-...@gmx.net
> I had begun to think that my experience with PDSEs was somehow > atypical, too lucky, because I had not encountered the grievous > problems that featured in others' war stories. > > I therefore spent a long afternoon trying to reproduce and clear some > of these problems. My experience was much

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