z/OSMF question

Hi, I restarted the z/OSMF task (IZUSVR1) yesterday. I started installing a product (ZOWE) using z/OSMF. The STDOUT dd has already accumulated over 5 million output lines. I looked at the various parameters, but could find something the cause so much output to be generated. Can anyone think of

Re: z/OS 3.1 Announcement US Letter

Anything that involves Liberty or zOSMF immediately dampens my enthusiasm... - KB --- Original Message --- On Wednesday, March 1st, 2023 at 6:51 AM, David Crayford wrote: > Interesting article on IBM SMF Explorer with Python > https://zos-hot-topics.com/2022/SMF-Explorer/. Looks like

Re: IBM's Fall From World Dominance

I never got into the habit of using Google. When I want to do a web search, I type "altavista" into my browser (or just "al", usually) and it takes me to https://search.yahoo.com/?fr=altavista. Sure, I'm a dinosaur. But I find things I need, so I see no need to change my habits. --- Bob

Re: Bob Richards

Very sad new, but thank you for letting us know Get Outlook for iOS From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Rick Troth Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2023 10:14:32 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Bob Richards friends --

Bob Richards

friends -- Our colleague Bob Richards passed away early this month (Feb). He has lots of friends on this list, and I know that some already know, but I had not seen an announcement and I thought the rest should be aware. I was able to keep in touch by way of his wife Rebecca. She is, of

IBM Webinar on OpenShift with Secure Execution

I'm hosting a Webinar this Friday (March 3) at 11:00 AM Singapore Time (03:00 UTC) on the new Secure Execution support available for Red Hat OpenShift Container Platform on IBM zSystems and LinuxONE servers. Secure Execution is available at no additional charge on IBM z15, LinuxONE III, and

Re: z/OS 3.1 Announcement US Letter

Interesting article on IBM SMF Explorer with Python https://zos-hot-topics.com/2022/SMF-Explorer/. Looks like the young'uns are gonna have some fun playing with SMF data in Jupyter. On 1/3/23 06:30, David Crayford wrote: There is a lot of AI related stuff in the announcement, including a

Re: IBM's Fall From World Dominance

The IBM Consent Decree (which ran from 1956 until 2001 for its last provisions) probably had a far bigger impact on IBM's business strategy and options ... just harder to analyze. It didn't directly affect either the rise or decline of the mainframe :)

Re: BookManager

The B2H tool was BookMaster source to HTML, not BookManager On Tue, Feb 28, 2023, 11:19 AM Colin Paice wrote: > There is a very old B2H package which I think is Rexx based. It was > supported on Windows NT, OS2, VM, OS390 etc, > I think I used to use it. It is mentioned >

Re: z/OS 3.1 Announcement US Letter

On 2/28/2023 4:20 PM, Farley, Peter wrote: An API that allows me to set the DUCT TRAP fields (go here on a TRAP event occurring, use this area for TRAP-time information, set/retrieve the TRAP user words, etc.) and at the specified TRAP-handling address access the TRAP-generated area(s) when a

Re: z/OS 3.1 Announcement US Letter

An API that allows me to set the DUCT TRAP fields (go here on a TRAP event occurring, use this area for TRAP-time information, set/retrieve the TRAP user words, etc.) and at the specified TRAP-handling address access the TRAP-generated area(s) when a TRAP or trapped condition occurs and decide

Re: z/OS 3.1 Announcement US Letter

On 2/28/2023 3:42 PM, Farley, Peter wrote: What I would like to know is when z/OS development will finally manage to find the round tuits to actually implement a supported API to actually be able to USE the TRAP (and compare-and-trap) instructions introduced to the architecture so long ago I

Re: IBM's Fall From World Dominance

Google has its own chatbot. Still, chatbots are years away from reliable use. MSFT’s has been shown to be somewhat unreliable.  Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Tuesday, February 28, 2023, 5:00 PM, David Crayford wrote: IBM appears to have returned to its strength of conducting top-class

Re: z/OS 3.1 Announcement US Letter

What I would like to know is when z/OS development will finally manage to find the round tuits to actually implement a supported API to actually be able to USE the TRAP (and compare-and-trap) instructions introduced to the architecture so long ago I have forgotten which zArch generation they in

Re: z/OS 3.1 Announcement US Letter

W dniu 28.02.2023 o 18:33, Tony Harminc pisze: On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 at 10:36, Lionel B. Dyck wrote: This is the US Version of the announcement letter https://www.ibm.com/common/ssi/ShowDoc.wss?docURL=/common/ssi/rep_ca/3/897/E NUS223-013/index.html=en_locale=en

Re: zOSMF and zOWE for non-mainframers

Your points are quite compelling. Speaking of documentation, it's fair to say that most developers dread writing it! While I'd love to create a comprehensive tutorial for pyzfile, the package reference is already quite thorough. https://daveyc.github.io/pyzfile/html/index.html On 1/3/23

Re: Can you connect to the PTF download site with z/OS FTP?

On 2/28/2023 1:11 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: Have you an example of a customer-facing (public) IBM SFTP server? All IBM servers where I have tried SFTP worked as expected. Here are two examples: : >sftp testcase.boulder.ibm.com FOTS1754 Password Authentication FOTS1754 Enter password for

Re: Silly JES2 question

Few notes: 1. Folks mentioned JOBCLASS definition in regard to operator commands. However COMMAND=EXECUTE does *not* mean "any command will be accepted. Every command will be *RACF-checked* using OPERCMDS profiles. So, D A,L will probably be accepted, but FORCE not. 2. Even unknown command

Re: z/OS 3.1 Announcement US Letter

It's my understanding that they are tensor cores, which are a type of vector processor optimized for matrix multiplication that can increase throughput per cycle. IBM have published the C API spec on Github [1]. I suspect they will create a Python tensorflow extension for ML/AI exploitation.

Re: zOSMF and zOWE for non-mainframers

ObGungaDin Yes, the documentation is often bad, but having them available makes things so much easier. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Jeremy Nicoll Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2023 6:05 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re:

Re: z/OS 3.1 Announcement US Letter

Take a look at PoOps and you'll see what I mean. AI applications don't need the precision of the normal vector instructions, and Telum introduces a lower precision format. There's more than that, but again AI won't be the only exploiter. The bad news is that Printing PoOps is even less

Re: zOSMF and zOWE for non-mainframers

On Tue, 28 Feb 2023, at 20:19, David Crayford wrote: > Utilizing > package managers to install packages is a fundamental aspect of > utilizing contemporary programming languages. The package manager aspect os more or less irrelevant though. What matters is the wealth of add-ons. (And to my

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Silly JES2 question

W dniu 28.02.2023 o 15:18, Dave Jousma pisze: On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 14:12:03 +, Pommier, Rex wrote: At this point we don't have a system limitation on who can use which job class. It's on my list of to-dos. We have security on some commands, limiting who can use them. Rex

Re: z/OS 3.1 Announcement US Letter

On 1/3/23 06:37, Seymour J Metz wrote: Telum isn't really an AI engine, but it has, e.g., vector capabilities motivated by AI applications. I expect to see it used for more than AI. Naturally, it's not an AI engine on its own; software is required for that functionality. An ACM article [1]

Re: z/OS 3.1 Announcement US Letter

Telum isn't really an AI engine, but it has, e.g., vector capabilities motivated by AI applications. I expect to see it used for more than AI. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: IBM's Fall From World Dominance

The google search engine is really terrible, and I welcome challengers that are more interested in accurate hits than in product placement. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: z/OS 3.1 Announcement US Letter

There is a lot of AI related stuff in the announcement, including a new SMF explorder that leverages Jupyter Notebooks. The z16 Telum chip has integrated AI on die and a C library was published. Does anybody know if this has been ported to Python numpy or tensorflow? In z/OS 3.1, AI and

Re: IBM's Fall From World Dominance

On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 17:11:20 -0500, Steve Thompson wrote: >... > >While I'm at it, suppose that IBM management had been successful >in dumping VM? How would they do cloud? > How would they do PR/SM? >Just wondering -- gil

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: IBM's Fall From World Dominance

And IIRC, the Hollerith company who invented the tabulating machine that counted the census was one of the 3 smaller companies that merged into what became IBM. So yeah, the writers played a bit fast and loose with the early history... -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion

Re: IBM's Fall From World Dominance

What would have been interesting if WANG had not made the financial mistakes it did and the VS series machines had continued. Would IBM have gotten rid of the bottom end of the z/Architecture? Tier 2 zSeries  partners were dump rather quickly. What would have happened had the MP-3000 and

Re: IBM's Fall From World Dominance

What is the connection between the U.S. Census Bureau and IBM? Herman Hollerith worked for the Census Bureau during the 1880 census and then for the 1890 census, invented the electronic tabulators and punchcards that the Census Bureau used from 1890 until the 1950s. Hollerith left the Census

Re: IBM's Fall From World Dominance

I wonder about the accuracy of this article saying that IBM was involved in the 1890 census. From IBM history: IBM, in full International Business Machines Corporation, leading American computer manufacturer, with a major share of the market both in the United States and abroad. Its

Re: zOSMF and zOWE for non-mainframers

On 28/02/2023 11:28 pm, Seymour J Metz wrote: What about Java? How well does JIT work? Java and the JIT compiler is very good. It always depends on the benchmark. For some stuff I think it's close to C. JIT compiles to machine code, and there are optimizations available in a JIT compiler

Re: IBM's Fall From World Dominance

IBM appears to have returned to its strength of conducting top-class research and development, which was always its forte. However, as the saying goes, nothing lasts forever. Google's reign as the world's dominant force may be the next to end. It seems that ChatGPT is on track to disrupt

Re: IBM's Fall From World Dominance

Why? As the article you posted notes : In 1982, the case was dropped by a judgement ruling it "without merit." See: https://www.nytimes.com/1981/02/15/business/us-vsibm.html which claims: The trial began in May 1975. Before the outset, the Government estimated that the presentation of its case

Re: IBM's Fall From World Dominance

On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 16:15:25 -0500, Phil Smith III wrote: >https://spectrum.ieee.org/ibms-fall-from-world-dominance > >Not negative overall, just recognizing that things have changed, for the >most part. > Thanks. Interesting. But it speaks of mainframes, much like tabulating machines, as in

Re: IBM's Fall From World Dominance

I find it disingenuous when someone doesn’t mention the antitrust lawsuit filed against IBM in 1969 and dropped in 1982. https://cs.stanford.edu/people/eroberts/cs181/projects/corporate-monopolies/government_ibm.html Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Tuesday, February 28, 2023, 4:15 PM,

IBM's Fall From World Dominance

https://spectrum.ieee.org/ibms-fall-from-world-dominance Not negative overall, just recognizing that things have changed, for the most part. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email

Re: Can you connect to the PTF download site with z/OS FTP?

On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 09:29:39 -0800, Ed Jaffe wrote: > >Paul Gorlinski mentioned SFTP without also mentioning FTPS, and now >you've mentioned FTPS without mentioning SFTP. > >In my experience, both of those FTP-based protocols work as expected >with IBM's customer-facing servers. > I don't perceive

Re: zOSMF and zOWE for non-mainframers

My sentiments exactly. I spend most of my time in USS and just get used to crossing the border when needed. Matt Hogstrom “It may be cognitive, but, it ain’t intuitive." — Hogstrom > On Feb 28, 2023, at 1:48 AM, David Crayford wrote: > > On 28/2/23 13:55, Gibney, Dave wrote: >> LIKE=a

Re: zOSMF and zOWE for non-mainframers

On 1/3/23 00:48, Farley, Peter wrote: David, my meaning was that timed comparisons like yours should use only python facilities available in the standard library, with NO PYPI packages installed. I frequently work with Apache Kafka, and if I aimed to evaluate the performance of producing

Re: Badmouthing Rexx and ooRexx - again (Re: zOSMF and zOWE for non-mainframers

I respectfully express my opinion without intending to badmouth anyone. I believe that benchmarking the performance of reading a large file is not an artificial test but rather a real-world use case that we encounter regularly. It is no secret that REXX on z/OS can be slow. In fact, one of my

Re: z/OS 3.1 Announcement US Letter

Puerto Rico has four IBM mainframe data centers. With two CECs in one of them. On Tue, Feb 28, 2023 at 1:34 PM Tony Harminc wrote: > On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 at 10:36, Lionel B. Dyck wrote: > > > This is the US Version of the announcement letter > > > > > > >

Re: BookManager

There is a very old B2H package which I think is Rexx based. It was supported on Windows NT, OS2, VM, OS390 etc, I think I used to use it. It is mentioned http://afrodita.rcub.bg.ac.rs/~ivica/b2h.html Colin On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 at 18:00, Bernd Oppolzer wrote: > What is the preferred way to

Re: z/OS 3.1 Announcement US Letter

On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 09:35:49 -0600, Lionel B. Dyck wrote: >This is the US Version of the announcement letter > >https://www.ibm.com/common/ssi/ShowDoc.wss?docURL=/common/ssi/rep_ca/3/897/E >NUS223-013/index.html=en_locale=en > ITYM:

BookManager

What is the preferred way to convert BookMgr books to PDF? My customer has some home-written BookMgr books, which they cannot access after the z/OS migration (BookMgr support was dropped with z/OS 2.4). We managed to transfer the books to Windows (and OS/2, BTW), where we can at least look at

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: z/OS 3.1 Announcement US Letter

IIRC they use the same regional breakouts for Z, I, P, and when they had it, X series machines. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Tony Harminc Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2023 11:33 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: z/OS 3.1

Re: z/OS 3.1 Announcement US Letter

On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 at 10:36, Lionel B. Dyck wrote: > This is the US Version of the announcement letter > > > https://www.ibm.com/common/ssi/ShowDoc.wss?docURL=/common/ssi/rep_ca/3/897/E > NUS223-013/index.html=en_locale=en >

Re: Can you connect to the PTF download site with z/OS FTP?

On 2/28/2023 5:36 AM, Allan Staller wrote: Classification: Confidential IBM made a change to no longer accept non-secured connections due to some EU privacy laws. IIRC July 2021 or so. HTTPS or FTPS is required. I do not know if AT-TLS is one of the accepted protocols. Paul Gorlinski

Re: Big z/OS Preview Announcement

On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 16:38:00 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >UUID to correlate CSI with system. > >I would expect any port of SSH to include SFTP, but disappointments happen. > What fraction of sites nowadays: o Use sftp under OMVS? o Use ssh but not sftp? o Use OMVS shell but not via ssh? o Use

Re: zOSMF and zOWE for non-mainframers

David, my meaning was that timed comparisons like yours should use only python facilities available in the standard library, with NO PYPI packages installed. The python standard library includes no facilities for accessing z/OS files, hence my use of subprocess.run to accomplish that access

Re: Big z/OS Preview Announcement

UUID to correlate CSI with system. I would expect any port of SSH to include SFTP, but disappointments happen. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Paul

Re: Big z/OS Preview Announcement

On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 16:17:37 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >Works fine, and I believe that one of the smaller enhancements will ave a big >impact. > Viz.? >However, no SFTP (SSH FTP). > What about ssh under OMVS? (available from a third party?) -- gil

Re: Big z/OS Preview Announcement

Works fine, and I believe that one of the smaller enhancements will ave a big impact. However, no SFTP (SSH FTP). From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Lionel B. Dyck Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2023 10:20 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

Re: Badmouthing Rexx and ooRexx - again (Re: zOSMF and zOWE for non-mainframers

On 28.02.2023 16:15, Seymour J Metz wrote: What happens if you change the benchmark to use the array class and DO OVER? Not much. ooRexx uses references to objects which can be of any type unlike strictly typed languages that restrict the types that can be assigned to arrays. Any such stored

z/OS 3.1 Announcement US Letter

This is the US Version of the announcement letter https://www.ibm.com/common/ssi/ShowDoc.wss?docURL=/common/ssi/rep_ca/3/897/E NUS223-013/index.html=en_locale=en Lionel B. Dyck <>< Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com Github: https://github.com/lbdyck “Worry more about your character than your

Re: Can you connect to the PTF download site with z/OS FTP?

Generally speaking (I don't know about IBM support) you can get the FTP client to connect via TLS 1.2 without using AT-TLS if you specify the right settings. But you'll still need the certificates added to a RACF keyring. //*---

Re: Big z/OS Preview Announcement

How about this link www.ibm.com/downloads/cas/CA-ENUSA23-0017-CA/name/CA-ENUSA23-0017-CA.PDF I see below the link changed for some reason. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com Github: https://github.com/lbdyck “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character

Re: Big z/OS Preview Announcement

We’re sorry! The page you're looking for may have been moved or deleted. Start a new search on ibm.com or visit one of the popular sites shown below. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Lionel B. Dyck Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2023 9:38

Re: Badmouthing Rexx and ooRexx - again (Re: zOSMF and zOWE for non-mainframers

What happens if you change the benchmark to use the array class and DO OVER? From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Rony G. Flatscher Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2023 9:38 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Badmouthing Rexx and ooRexx -

Re: Big z/OS Preview Announcement

A quick FYI, I will also be spending 10-15mins in my "SDSF Hidden Treasures" Share session previewing the big ticket items we have in 3.1. There are some very interesting SDSF features on the way. Rob Scott Rocket Software From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Lionel B. Dyck

Badmouthing Rexx and ooRexx - again (Re: zOSMF and zOWE for non-mainframers

On 28.02.2023 13:44, David Crayford wrote: ooRexx has two main issues: its a superset of REXX, which is a subpar programming language, and it consumes a lot of CPU resources. Each language clause in ooRexx is a C++ object that invokes dynamic dispatch whenever it's executed. Unlike most other

Big z/OS Preview Announcement

Saw this post from Marna this morning: Big z/OS Preview Announce day for our next release! A million great things in there, but a couple of items of note: - z14 is the minimum level. - GA will be 3Q2023, as is expected. - IBM Change Tracker (the newest priced feature) will have a self-service

Subject: Re: How long for an experiened z/OS sysprog to come up to speed on a new environment?

I agree with Shumel and some others. It would be very nice if many panels would somehow display the actual commands they will use or, if that is not workable, perhaps a very short outline of the actions that will be taken. Being rather elderly now (and with failing memory at times) this would be

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Silly JES2 question

On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 14:12:03 +, Pommier, Rex wrote: >At this point we don't have a system limitation on who can use which job >class. It's on my list of to-dos. > >We have security on some commands, limiting who can use them. > >Rex > >-Original Message- >From: IBM Mainframe

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Silly JES2 question

At this point we don't have a system limitation on who can use which job class. It's on my list of to-dos. We have security on some commands, limiting who can use them. Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jeremy Nicoll Sent: Monday, February 27,

Re: Can you connect to the PTF download site with z/OS FTP?

Classification: Confidential Thnks for the update Kurt. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Kurt J. Quackenbush Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2023 7:57 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Can you connect to the PTF download site with z/OS FTP?

Re: Can you connect to the PTF download site with z/OS FTP?

IBM Downloads (public.dhe.ibm.com) - Disablement of unsecure connection methods: https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/node/6826677 Kurt Quackenbush IBM  |  z/OS SMP/E and z/OSMF Software Management  |  ku...@us.ibm.com Chuck Norris never uses CHECK when he applies PTFs.

Re: Can you connect to the PTF download site with z/OS FTP?

Classification: Confidential IBM made a change to no longer accept non-secured connections due to some EU privacy laws. IIRC July 2021 or so. HTTPS or FTPS is required. I do not know if AT-TLS is one of the accepted protocols. HTH, -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: zOSMF and zOWE for non-mainframers

You may want to take a look at MIR (Medium Internal Representation) which is a framework for writing JIT's. It's experimental but looks to build on and improve LLVM. It supports codegen for s390x so should run fine on z/OS. [1] https://github.com/vnmakarov/mir [2]

Re: zOSMF and zOWE for non-mainframers

Read it how? I would expect vastly different timings depending on the answer. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of David Crayford [dcrayf...@gmail.com] Sent:

Re: zOSMF and zOWE for non-mainframers

That is interesting because I was benchmarking it years ago it was only slower with programs that did a lot of external calls, and all programs with arithmetic were a lot faster than the interpreter. Anyway, all very good observations for new Rexx implementations. I share your observations

Re: zOSMF and zOWE for non-mainframers

That would be great. CPAN is the main reason that I use Perl and CTAN makes (La)TeX much more useful. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Jay Maynard

Re: zOSMF and zOWE for non-mainframers

On 28/2/23 20:41, René Jansen wrote: Depending on what you test and what you want to see of course. You did use the Rexx compiler? My tests are quite straightforward. I take a 12,000 cylinder SMF sequential file and read it using different programming languages and then compare the timing

Re: zOSMF and zOWE for non-mainframers

I see it being based on Rexx as a plus. My understanding is that 5.0 is faster; it might be desirable to run the benchmark again. Also, benchmark results are highly dependent on what code you measure; you can write FORTRAN in any language. Did the ooRexx code you measured exploit ooRexx, or

Re: zOSMF and zOWE for non-mainframers

On 28/2/23 20:41, René Jansen wrote: Depending on what you test and what you want to see of course. You did use the Rexx compiler? Yes, and the REXX compiler was slower than the interpreter. I profiled it using Application Performance Analyzer and it was spending 90% of it's time in GETMAIN

Re: zOSMF and zOWE for non-mainframers

Any discussion of editors reminds me of . It is very difficult to find a single editor that has all desirable features. Yes, ISPF and XEDIT are dated, but they do a superb job of handling data by line, which is a natural way to think

Re: zOSMF and zOWE for non-mainframers

ooRexx has two main issues: its a superset of REXX, which is a subpar programming language, and it consumes a lot of CPU resources. Each language clause in ooRexx is a C++ object that invokes dynamic dispatch whenever it's executed. Unlike most other sensible programming languages, which

Re: Cant SPKA to PSW Key 4

If you could tell me the price I have Zpdt personal edition Thank you > On Feb 28, 2023, at 7:33 AM, Robert Shimizu wrote: > > Ed: > > THANKS for being a happy z/XDC user, sir! > > Sincerely, > Bob > >> On 2/27/23 8:36 AM, Ed Jaffe wrote: >>> On 2/27/2023 2:07 AM, Rob Scott wrote: >>>

Re: zOSMF and zOWE for non-mainframers

Depending on what you test and what you want to see of course. You did use the Rexx compiler? René. > On 28 Feb 2023, at 06:47, David Crayford wrote: > > On 25/2/23 01:23, Farley, Peter wrote: >> Python on the mainframe is pretty good, but still can't beat out Rexx in >> performance even

Re: Cant SPKA to PSW Key 4

Good heavens, Bob, I remember talking to you in the 80s about XDC. I'm pleased to see you're still involved. I never had a chance to use your product, sadly, but it has an excellent reputation. I just couldn't justify it for the limited use it would have gotten at any of the shops I was at. On

Re: Cant SPKA to PSW Key 4

Ed: THANKS for being a happy z/XDC user, sir! Sincerely, Bob On 2/27/23 8:36 AM, Ed Jaffe wrote: On 2/27/2023 2:07 AM, Rob Scott wrote: As others might have suggested, if you are even semi-serious about writing authorized code then I think it would be worth your time talking to Cole

Re: zOSMF and zOWE for non-mainframers

The discussion about standard libraries like Python's came up in a recent discussion on LinkedIn about REXX, and David Boyes said he was working on something along those lines for REXX. He said he hopes to have it ready for the next VM Workshop. On Tue, Feb 28, 2023 at 6:28 AM Seymour J Metz

Re: Cant SPKA to PSW Key 4

Hi Mike: THANK YOU for the kind words, and your long loyalty, sir. Sincerely, Bob On 2/27/23 7:01 AM, Mike Shaw wrote: +1 We have been licensees of z/XDC for over 25 years. It has saved us immeasurable amounts of man-hours. Mike Shaw MVS/QuickRef Support Group Chicago-Soft, Ltd. On Mon,

Re: Cant SPKA to PSW Key 4

Hi Joe: Hello again, sir.  I've been watching this thread. You once used z/XDC as I recall.  We DO offer a z/PDT license for the tool, but it is still a professional level price for a professional level product.  May I know more about your circumstances, please?  Perhaps we can work

Re: Cant SPKA to PSW Key 4

Hi Steve: Sir, thanks for your kind words about z/XDC.  We appreciate it over here a great deal. Sincerely, Bob On 2/24/23 6:06 AM, Steve Thompson wrote: Might I suggest z/XDC from Cole Software? I've used it off and on since the mid-90s and it beats the snot out of TEST|Test Auth. Steve

Re: zOSMF and zOWE for non-mainframers

What about Java? How well does JIT work? The gold standard for REXX is ooRexx, but IBM has not seen fit to integrate it into z/OS or z/VM. However, for off the shelf package libraries, Perl and Python are admittedly ahead of REXX. What are the Python and Ruby equivalents of CPAN? I've found

Re: zOSMF and zOWE for non-mainframers

RECFM=VB unless the compilers won't support it. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of David Crayford [dcrayf...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2023

REXX and Logstreams

I did a quick search and didn't see anything, so I thought i'd ask here. Can a rexx program being executed in Netview write data to a logstream? Mark Jacobs Sent from [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com), Swiss-based encrypted email. GPG Public Key -

Re: zOSMF and zOWE for non-mainframers

BPAM? Record access to binary files, where LF has no special significance? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of David Crayford [dcrayf...@gmail.com] Sent:

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Why? That will only list the directory information, while [A|I]MBLIST LISTIDR will give the IDR data as well. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Mike

Load module/program object

This will also help IEHLIST LISTPDS,FORMAT Mike Kerford-Byrnes Despite the fact I am approaching the time when it is wise to express my age in hex, I can still remember a few things! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe /

Re: zOSMF and zOWE for non-mainframers

The pyzfile module source code has been available on Github [1] since its inception, and it can be considered the benchmark implementation for MVS data set I/O in Python. Many people, including IBM employees, have expressed interest in pyzfile [2]. Regarding your mention of standard Python