Re: New mainframe redbook

2006-08-01 Thread Jim Elliott [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Yesterday, IBM released an new Redbook entitled: Introduction to the New Mainframe: z/OS Basics (http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg246366.html) ... It would be nice, imho, if IBM was to produce a similar Redbook for z/VM. I would be willing to contribute to it Dave: This

Re: New mainframe redbook

2006-08-01 Thread Dave Jones
Hi, Jim. spare time and Jim Elliott are phrases one very seldom sees together in the same sentence;-) At least one other person, besides myself, has expressed interest in contributing to a new document. What do we need to do to get this made into a formal project? Have a good one. DJ

Re: New mainframe redbook

2006-08-01 Thread Thomas Kern
How many customers do you need to offer to help before it can be made in to a formal project? I am also willing to contribute what I can to this. /Thomas Kern /301-903-2211 On Tue, 1 Aug 2006 09:34:32 -0500, Dave Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] w rote: spare time and Jim Elliott are phrases one very

Re: New mainframe redbook

2006-08-01 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 08/01/2006 at 10:18 AST, Jim Elliott [EMAIL PROTECTED] This book is the basis for the z/OS courses some higher-eds are offering. I have started (in my spare time) doing a z/VM version of this, but I think we need a formal project for this. There is already a proposal

Re: New mainframe redbook

2006-08-01 Thread David Kreuter
count me in please. David Boyes wrote: On the other hand, why not do it ourselves? I'm willing to assemble, edit and typeset the book if others can contribute some of the content. IBM has published such things in the past via IBM Press, or I have contacts with Addison Wesley and O'Reilly

Re: New mainframe redbook

2006-08-01 Thread Dave Jones
Thanks interesting to hear, Alan. As you might infer, there seems to be some interest both some of the list membership to see such a Redbook produced and are willing to donate some of their time and energy to make it happen. Can you tell us where this proposal stands? Is it related to the

Re: New mainframe redbook

2006-08-01 Thread Dave Jones
Well, we certainly seem to have enough Davids will to contribute...now we need some Bartons, Reeds, Romneys, Alans, Robs, Marcys and other VM gurus:-) DJ David Kreuter wrote: count me in please. David Boyes wrote: On the other hand, why not do it ourselves? I'm willing to assemble,

Re: New mainframe redbook

2006-08-01 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 08/01/2006 at 10:58 EST, Dave Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks interesting to hear, Alan. As you might infer, there seems to be some interest both some of the list membership to see such a Redbook produced and are willing to donate some of their time and energy to make it

Re: New mainframe redbook

2006-08-01 Thread Kris Buelens
If time permits, I'd volunteer too. Surely vols 3 seems attractive to me. Kris, IBM Belgium, VM customer support On Tuesday, 08/01/2006 at 10:58 EST, Dave Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks interesting to hear, Alan. As you might infer, there seems to be some interest both some of

Re: New mainframe redbook

2006-08-01 Thread Mike Walter
Was that volumes 2 and 3 **through** 8!? %-)~ Mike Walter Hewitt Associates David Boyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 08/01/2006 02:00 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To

Re: New mainframe redbook

2006-08-01 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 08/01/2006 at 01:36 EST, Dave Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, I see where you're heading with this. It's a much bigger project than what I was proposing doing with the z/OS Redbook. The z/OS Redbook is 700 pages and just scratches the surface of z/OS. It really is the basics.

Draft outline for z/VM New Parents Guide posted

2006-08-01 Thread David Boyes
As promised, I've posted my take on a book outline for new z/VM system programmers. I'd appreciate comments and extensions to the topics (and if people see sections they'd volunteer to write, I'd be thrilled). I think a lot of the material will be reading the IBM stuff and casting it into our own

Re: Draft outline for z/VM New Parents Guide posted

2006-08-01 Thread Shimon Lebowitz
Hi, Looking through the outline (wow, you do a lot, fast!) I thought of a few comments/suggestions. chapter 2: was SAPIPL supposed to say SALIPL? chapter 3: how about changing volsers (a definite FAQ!) does the QDIO setup belong here, rather than in chapter 4,

Re: Draft outline for z/VM New Parents Guide posted

2006-08-01 Thread Jim Vincent
Nice start! Chapter 8 could be Book 2. That really could end up being one very long chapter unless you stick very close to the IBM default recommendations, You know, like we all do... on days that end in z. The maintenance/service philosophies from different folks could be chapters in

Re: Draft outline for z/VM New Parents Guide posted

2006-08-01 Thread Jim Vincent
Chapter 3 note - applying the most recent RSU/COR is included in the VM One Page Install sheet. So it should be a normal thing in a virgin install of VM for the person to use the automatic tools (SERVICE PUT2PROD). Those steps are definitely included there and seem to be well documented for

Re: New mainframe redbook

2006-08-01 Thread Marcy Cortes
Ah, flattered to be included in that list of fine VM folks. However, I'm running around like a chicken without its head these days. Be careful what you ask for - build it they will come - and then they won't go away! I think it was way easier being a less important o/s fighting for survival

Re: New mainframe redbook

2006-08-01 Thread Jim Vincent
Ah, flattered to be included in that list of fine VM folks. However, I'm running around like a chicken without its head these days. Be careful what you ask for - build it they will come - and then they won't go away! I think it was way easier being a less important o/s fighting for

Re: Draft outline for z/VM New Parents Guide posted

2006-08-01 Thread Rick Barlow
It is easy to see how this could grow to more than one book! I can see a couple things that might be worth expanding. In chapter 4, it might be worthwhile to add Guest LAN and Hipersockets to the Connecting Interfaces section. I think it would also be useful to make some reference to

Re: Draft outline for z/VM New Parents Guide posted

2006-08-01 Thread Daniel P. Martin
Perhaps Care and Feeding of SFS, also? -dan. David Kreuter wrote: 1. dynamic i/o 2. network tracing 3. second the motion for DIRMAINT 4. rudiments of CP and CMS debugging including dump tools and interactive commands 5. system shutdown 6. TSAF and/or CSE David The IBM z/VM Operating System