On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 7:52 PM, Tom
Duerbuschduerbus...@stlouiscity.com wrote:
Can cache be turned off for a volume on the DS6800?
I don't think so. But I would like to confirm that.
I believe it's up to the device to decide what to do with the cache
bits in the channel program. Since it
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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On
Behalf Of Adam Thornton
Sent: 29 July 2009 02:26
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: z/VM 6.1 and Hercules on Z9
On Jul 28, 2009, at 6:32 PM, John McKown wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jul 2009,
Hello listers,
We have received a fixtest from IBM for testing but we need to recreate t
he
problem on our test environment. So far we did not succeed in recreating
the
problem. As it turns out we need to get one or more users into the dispac
h
queue without using CPU cycles.
The problem on our
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 9:52 AM, Berry van
Sleeuwenberry.vansleeu...@xs4all.nl wrote:
We have received a fixtest from IBM for testing but we need to recreate the
problem on our test environment. So far we did not succeed in recreating the
problem. As it turns out we need to get one or more
Hello Adam,
I can say that I was told, in no uncertain terms, from IBM
that it is illegal to run VM/ESA and up under Hercules.
That was a while back, and things may have changed but I have
never
seen anything to the contrary.
Hey, IBM what is your stand on Hercules?
Ed
On Jul 29, 2009, at 8:48 AM, Edward M Martin wrote:
Hello Adam,
I can say that I was told, in no uncertain terms, from IBM
that it is illegal to run VM/ESA and up under Hercules.
That was a while back, and things may have changed but I have
never
seen anything to the contrary.
On Jul 29, 2009, at 1:50 AM, Dave Wade wrote:
I seem to recall it being mentioned somewhere that after the PSI
debacle IBM
amended the license terms to specifically prohibit the use of zVM
under
Emulation of any kind thus closing this loophole.
Even if it's on the same processor? That
Richard,
The telnet server tried to send something out of connection 100, but the
connection was not in a state that was valid for sending data. Based on
the DTCSTM126I message, I would assume the connection was in the process of
closing when the telnet server tried the send. Determining what
On Wednesday, 07/29/2009 at 09:13 EDT, Buettner, Wolfgang
wolfgang.buett...@softwareag.com wrote:
Is there a way to make the HOLD operand default for use with certain
LDEV servers?
In our case it is desired that TELNET sessions to certain TCP/IP server
virtual machines does not get lost after
Hello Adam,
I was part of the developers group. I thought it was neat that
you could. But there were some major problems running
Hercules-VM/ESA-VSE/ESA. I did learn lots.
But IBM was extremely hostile.
Ed Martin
Aultman Health Foundation
330-363-5050
ext 35050
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On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 16:51:19 -0600, sunny...@wcb.ab.ca wrote:
I did reseach. But can't figure out where we can get it.
q product on z/Vm. I only see 5VMRSC30 disable.
Does CSE have to be purchused ?
Thanks!
Sunny Hu
Sunny:
As your IBM System z rep, we need to have a discussion on this
On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 07:03:59 +1000, Graeme Moss ib...@mossaustralia.com
wrote:
The company I work for is very tight with money (eg they don't pay me wh
at I
would like to receive) and the section I work for (Software Factory) onl
y
gets hand-me-down mainframes. I can see the situation arising
How do I continue?
That depends entirely upon the success/failure of SERVICE.
Did you look in the $VMFSRV $MSGLOG A1 file for any errors? (The
newest entries are at the top).
Did you look at every * $MSGLOG A file that is newer than the VMFSRV
$MSGLOG A (i.e. those that were created as
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 4:30 PM, Jim Elliott,
IBMjelli...@gdlvm7.vnet.ibm.com wrote:
As your IBM System z rep, we need to have a discussion on this before you
proceed to look into using CSE. Send me a note (off-list) with some times
you are available (say on Friday this week?) and we can talk.
Exactly what business problem are you trying to address by doing this?
Compare what you're doing to an Intel world implementation. Would you ever
place two Intel boxes sharing disk, and with no knowledge of each other,
side by side, and boot both systems from the same root disk? What results
Why I would want to? I wouldn't.
However, CA is saying that the root cause of our DYNAM catalog corruption is
caching.
Where I can see if some VSE systems are accessing the DYNAM catalog thru some
sort of cache while other systems are notbig problem here.
But single VM system with MDC
On Wednesday, 07/29/2009 at 11:52 EDT, Tom Duerbusch
duerbus...@stlouiscity.com wrote:
However, CA is saying that the root cause of our DYNAM catalog
corruption is
caching.
Not impossible, of course, but highly unlikely. If all I/O is coming down
the same chpid from the same VM system,
Been in VM waaay to long to do the duplicate minidisk problem G.
All my shared minidisks are owned by user $SHRDASD. Everyone else links.
And when I have a second level VM system, there is no MDC on the second level
system.
Since VSE can't run on an IFL, there is also no sharing across LPARs.
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 5:51 PM, Tom
Duerbuschduerbus...@stlouiscity.com wrote:
Why I would want to? I wouldn't.
However, CA is saying that the root cause of our DYNAM catalog corruption is
caching.
I am grateful that my most intimate recollections about DYNAM-T are paged out..
But from the
Tom,
FWIW, we too had a corrupt Dynam 7.0 catalog, in 2005.
First, we got the advise from CA about not using caching/MDC for Dynam
catalog MDISKs and like you I had my doubts about it but just to be on
the safe side I coded NOMDC for the MDISK for the Dynam catalog in the
production VM.
But
On Wednesday, 07/29/2009 at 02:51 EDT, Dieltiens Geert
geert.dielti...@inf.vanbreda.be wrote:
But in our development VM (with 3 busy VSE guests) I've always used MDC
for the Dynam catalog MDISK and never had any problem with it.
Within a single z/VM system, MDC is fine as long as you use LINKs
Okay Alan, I'll bite
Is there a convenient way to do this?
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 8:24 AM, Alan Altmarkalan_altm...@us.ibm.com wrote:
On Wednesday, 07/29/2009 at 09:13 EDT, Buettner, Wolfgang
wolfgang.buett...@softwareag.com wrote:
Is there a way to make the HOLD operand default for use
Perhaps get someone else to create the exit :-)
Regards,
Richard Schuh
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Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 12:27 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re:
On Wednesday, 07/29/2009 at 03:28 EDT, Ron Schmiedge
ron.schmie...@gmail.com wrote:
Okay Alan, I'll bite
Is there a convenient way to do this?
LOL. I wasn't trying to be coy. No, there is no convenient way (as most
people don't think writing an exit is convenient).
FWIW, to find the
Mike,
Thanks for your good advice and suggestions, it pointed me in the right
direction. It turned out that the problem was MAINT did not have the privilege
to force off users, it now does. RSU 0902 was applied fully and successfully.
PUT2PROD had an issue with building the HELP Segment,
I send you a copy of my NEWDATE EXEC?
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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On
Behalf Of Frank M. Ramaekers
Sent: July 29, 2009 15:47
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: REXX DATE - Julian and Centry
I don't understand why there is the
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[mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Frank M. Ramaekers
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 2:47 PM
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Subject: REXX DATE - Julian and Centry
I don't understand why there is the following
To add to John's suggestions, a slightly different flavor:
when=date('B')-1 /* Yesterday */
prevjdate=left(date('O',when,'B'),2)||right(date('D',when,'B'),3,0)
when=date('B')+1 /* Tomorrow */
Hello Frank,
SAY DATE('D') ' NUMBERS OF DAYS THIS YEAR
SAY DATE('J') 'JULIAN DATE
Take the number of days, subtract 90, if less than 1, it has to be next
year.
Does it have to be julian?
DATE('B') ' DATE EXPRESSED AS DAYS SINCE 01/01/0001
DATE('C') '
On Wednesday, 07/29/2009 at 11:41 EDT, Rob van der Heij
rvdh...@gmail.com wrote:
Looking at the part of future that IBM already shared with us about
z/VM 6.1, it is not unlikely that your investments on implementing CSE
today will be wasted once the goodies in z/VM 6.1 become available to
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 10:50 PM, Alan Altmarkalan_altm...@us.ibm.com wrote:
The things you learn while implementing CSE (any or all of it) will prove
invaluable in the transition to the single system image of the future:
So you're really suggesting people to start doing CSE to get up to
speed
Evil! Funny, but evil! :)
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Thank-you Jim you have given me a definite answer.
Now I know it pointless talking to the procurement team about going down
this path.
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From: Jim Elliott, IBM jelli...@gdlvm7.vnet.ibm.com
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 12:38 AM
The convenient way to do this is to write a DISCONN EXEC and a LOGOFF
EXEC.
But ... [sigh] ... if I had a dime for every time I wished just the
opposite, that an SNA or ICC terminal would go away when I disconnect
or log off, that the associated TCP session would close. It's annoying
that my
I'd have to agree with Rob here.
We have a limited amount of CSE here. Just xlink and only on particular
volumes that contain a certain very large server that doesn't want to be down
for more than reboot time and we do a lot of PORs. That has its risks too
without a true shared directory.
I read this after I sent my last email... Sorry.
While these are good points, how would one go about learning the best way to
address each of those areas? Is there a white paper, redbook, anything at all
documenting a reference implementation?
If not, it's no place for the VM system prog with
Yes, when I found out how VM TELNET behaved and how long I had to wait
for PCOMM to come back, I wrote this exec:
/* add HOLD when on TCPIP */
'EXECIO 1 CP ( STRING Q CONS'
pull cons . . . . . . host tcpip .
parm =
if host = HOST then if tcpip = TCPIP then parm = HOLD
'CP LOGOFF' parm
Is anyone having problems with the DEFINE MDISK command? I get the
following:
define mdisk as 1c14 1 5 zz1c14
HCPDEF003E Invalid option - MDISK
I am a class A user. We're running VM 5.4 0902
Thanks,
Steve
Got DEVMAINT?
See HELP DEFINE MDISK
Marcy
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Steve, the help file for the CP DEFINE MDISK command notes:
The user must be the primary system operator or the user's OPTION
directory statement must include the DEVMAINT option.
You need to add the DEVMAINT option to your user id.
Gentry, Stephen wrote:
Is anyone having problems with
Based on the Help:
The user must be the primary system operator or the user's OPTION
directory
statement must include the DEVMAINT option.
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On
Behalf Of Gentry, Stephen
Sent: Wednesday,
On Wednesday, 07/29/2009 at 06:52 EDT, Ron Schmiedge
ron.schmie...@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, when I found out how VM TELNET behaved and how long I had to wait
for PCOMM to come back, I wrote this exec:
:
Seems to be working okay, so far. I was hoping Alan really had a more
convenient way.
I've
On Wednesday, 07/29/2009 at 05:49 EDT, Rob van der Heij
rvdh...@gmail.com wrote:
So you're really suggesting people to start doing CSE to get up to
speed for a future z/VM release? Like getting PVM and RSCS installed?
I see that some people started to migrate their Linux data to new
volumes
On Wednesday, 07/29/2009 at 06:45 EDT, Marcy Cortes
marcy.d.cor...@wellsfargo.com wrote:
While these are good points, how would one go about learning the best
way to
address each of those areas? Is there a white paper, redbook, anything
at all
documenting a reference implementation?
The
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