On VM, you start Ditto by entering DITTO as command.
Is your question maybe that you don't find the DITTO runtime on z/VM? Maybe
DITTO's runtime was not copied to a public minidisk (like MAINT 19E, the
Y-disk).
You migth want to look at MAINT's 51D disk (accessed as D in MAINT), and
find the
Typed in www.ibm.com/ibmlink this morning and it is now
https://www-304bluecoat.ibm.com with a certificate that Firefox doesn't trust.
Anybody else seeing this?
Bobby Bauer
Center for Information Technology
National Institutes of Health
Bethesda, MD 20892-5628
301-594-7474
Thanks for the quick answers, but I think there is a misunderstanding of
my question. After activating the license code on the DS8K, is there
anything else to configure on the storage manager of the DS8K to get
FLASHCOPY usable? For example, must I restart the DS8K or must I put a
hook on any
On 02/25/10 07:18, Bauer, Bobby (NIH/CIT) [E] wrote:
Typed in www.ibm.com/ibmlink this morning and it is now
https://www-304bluecoat.ibm.com with a certificate that Firefox doesn't trust.
Anybody else seeing this?
Bobby Bauer
Center for Information Technology
National Institutes of Health
same-same. I open www.ibm.com/ibmlink, which forwards me to www-304.ibm.com/
... blahblahblah.
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Of Mark Jacobs
Sent: Thursday, 25 February, 2010 07:27 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Very strange, I shutdown my browser and tried again. Looks normal now.
Bobby Bauer
Center for Information Technology
National Institutes of Health
Bethesda, MD 20892-5628
301-594-7474
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From: Bonno, Tuco [mailto:t...@cio.sc.gov]
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 7:30
Mark Jacobs wrote:
On 02/25/10 07:18, Bauer, Bobby (NIH/CIT) [E] wrote:
Typed in www.ibm.com/ibmlink this morning and it is now
https://www-304bluecoat.ibm.com with a certificate that Firefox
doesn't trust. Anybody else seeing this?
Bobby Bauer
Center for Information Technology
National
You shouldn't have to do anything else. Activate the code, and then watch
for the things we mentioned.
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 7:20 AM, fjpohlen-maill...@gmx.de
fjpohlen-maill...@gmx.de wrote:
Thanks for the quick answers, but I think there is a misunderstanding of my
question. After
DVT - Display VToc (for z/OS and z/VSE volumes)
Frank M. Ramaekers Jr.
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On
Behalf Of Mario Izaguirre
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 3:40 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject:
No problems here (via IE nor Firefox).
Frank M. Ramaekers Jr.
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Behalf Of Bauer, Bobby (NIH/CIT) [E]
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 6:18 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: IBMLINK
I am assuming you want to run DITTO to see a disk's VTOC.
type DITTO and press the ENTER key
if you see a copyright screen press ENTER again
you probably then see a menu of DITTO functions. On my system, menu item 3
shows VTOC functions:
I didn't want to start a war of words about a poor little Signal, but I
cannot resist now. SIGNAL should be used only if you want to branch to a
piece of code from which you will never come back. In other words, it should
be reserved for *abnormal* changes in the flow of logic. Error handling is
I understand, Ray. I just tried to prevent those who read this list and who
may be new to REXX from thinking that Signal is widely accepted in
constructing loops.
Ivica
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 5:30 AM, Mrohs, Ray ray.mr...@usdoj.gov wrote:
My posting was the result of frustration with SFS. I
And just to state the obvious, you need the disk you want to look at
attached to your VM, and CMS disks do not have a VTOC.
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 8:41 AM, Romanowski, John (OFT)
john.romanow...@cio.ny.gov wrote:
I am assuming you want to run DITTO to see a disk's VTOC.
type DITTO and
On Thursday, 02/25/2010 at 06:02 EST, caleb ong caleb...@yahoo.com
wrote:
I am doing some backups for zvm for dr purposes. Aside from the zvm res
volume, I was wondering if we really need to backup the spool and page
volumes.
based on my readings, It seems i don't need to backup paging
Ivica Brodaric wrote:
I didn't want to start a war of words about a poor little Signal, but I cannot
resist now. SIGNAL should be used only if you want to branch to a piece of
code from which you will never come back. In other words, it should be
reserved for *abnormal* changes in the flow of
thanks to all for the hints.
kind regards
Franz Josef Pohlen
Am 25.02.2010 14:08, schrieb Mark Pace:
You shouldn't have to do anything else. Activate the code, and then
watch for the things we mentioned.
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 7:20 AM, fjpohlen-maill...@gmx.de
Great!!
In a VM directory exists an user DITTO
I logon with the user and write DITTO command and show the menu...
!!! Very thanks !!!
Best Regards,
Mario Izaguirre
Mainframe System Programmer
Barcelona, Spain
De: The IBM z/VM Operating System
Ivica Brodaric wrote:
I didn't want to start a war of words about a poor little
Signal, but I cannot resist now. SIGNAL should be used only
if you want to branch to a piece of code from which you will
never come back. In other words, it should be reserved for
*abnormal* changes in the
I saw it briefly last night too. And then it sotpped.
Someone in IBM must have made a booboo.
Marcy
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2010/2/25 Phil Smith III li...@akphs.com
..
Another great use for SIGNAL (and one that your rules do admit to) is for
error exits. I hate code like this:
address command 'somecmd'
if rc 0 then do
say 'That was an error, rc='rc
exit rc
end
Far better IMHO is:
address command
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf
Of Ivica Brodaric
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 8:57 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: An SFS aid
I didn't want to start a war of words about a poor little Signal, but I cannot
resist now. SIGNAL
On Thursday, 02/25/2010 at 10:09 EST, David Boyes dbo...@sinenomine.net
wrote:
I tend to agree with you that signal gets overused, but thank heavens
it?s
there. Adding similar function to Common LISP was a royal PITA.
Each of us has a unique ability to mentally cache the logic flow of a
Unless there is a reason to handle a nonzero rc (e.g. error correction
code, or special a special message), then Phil's simple example would be
better handled with an existing rexx convention:
Signal ON ERROR
address command 'somecmd'
...
then either leave Signal ON ERROR active - generally not
Ray, much nicer. Three nits:
1) DO FOREVER is usually preferable to DO WHILE 1 for readability.
2) ADDRESS COMMAND is usually preferable to ensure consistent operation: you
don't want things breaking because some user has a PIPE EXEC, for example.
3) Avoiding abbreviations is usually
I think you are right. Looks like it was IBM themselves.
www-304bluecoat.ahe.pok.ibm.com [129.33.205.96]
Ed Martin
Aultman Health Foundation
330-363-5050
ext 35050
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Behalf Of Marcy Cortes
Sent:
On Thursday, 02/25/2010 at 01:39 EST, Wiggins, Mark
mark.wigg...@uconn.edu wrote:
1) Because of the way the SVC performs it?s upgrade, usually, one
I/O
group is taken down while being upgraded, then there is a 30 minute
delay, then
the second I/O group is taken down, activity is
I hoped the readers would realize that my code snipped wasn't meant to have
a real text, I wanted to illustrate what I can code.
So, you begged for real examples, here from SFSULIST EXEC:
if fpool='' then do
'QUERY FILEPOOL CURRENT(LIFO'
parse pull . fpool .
if fpool='NONE' then call
Regards,
Richard Schuh
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf
Of Kris Buelens
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 7:06 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: An SFS aid
I agree with the use Signal sometimes,
Yes, you can define all packs as fullpack to MAINT, either with MDISK
statements in the CP directory, either with DEFINE MDISK commands.
When you create a standalone DDR tape, you can restore the tapes from the
bare metal. Creating an IPLable tape isn't difficult:
FILEDEF IN DISK IPL DDRXA S
Expanding on what Phil said:
- Always put Address Command at the top of an ordinary Rexx
exec.
- Quote and capitalize all commands to the underlying system.
- Use the *full* CMS command
- Direct CP commands to CP via: 'CP whatever'
- Abbreviate CP commands that are inside of a loop to
improve
Ivica
2010/2/26 Pluzhnikov Vsevolod vpluzhni...@croc.ru
Hello, All!
Help me please in understanding the correct way of backup/restore z/VM
system (on CKD dasd). I’ll need to perform this because of disruptive
upgrade of our DS8300.
I’m testing now ddrxa.
Is it possible to define all
Regards,
Richard Schuh
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[mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Les Koehler
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 12:28 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: An SFS aid
Expanding on what Phil said:
- Always put
Les Koehler wrote:
- Abbreviate CP commands that are inside of a loop to improve
performance. Ditto in execs that get used a *lot*
That one I am curious about ! Why would an abbreviated CP command yield
better performance than a fully spelled out CP command ?
--Ivan
Hi
If you have a z/OS system and have connectivity to the z/VM packs you
can run DFDSS full pack backup of all of your CKD packs and use ICKDSF
to restore them. This is what I usually do when I want to copy my system
packs for building a new z/VM LPAR for instance.
Thank You,
Terry
Schuh, Richard wrote:
Regards,
Richard Schuh
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[mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Les Koehler
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 12:28 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: An SFS aid
Expanding on what Phil
Because CP looks up abbreviations first. CMS looks up the
fully qualified command first.
Unless they changed the rules after I retired.
Les
Ivan Warren wrote:
Les Koehler wrote:
- Abbreviate CP commands that are inside of a loop to improve
performance. Ditto in execs that get used a *lot*
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 3:28 PM, Les Koehler vmr...@tampabay.rr.comwrote:
Expanding on what Phil said:
- Always put Address Command at the top of an ordinary Rexx exec.
- Quote and capitalize all commands to the underlying system.
- Use the *full* CMS command
- Direct CP commands to CP via: 'CP
I think you want to use a stem instead of a var
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Behalf Of =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Victor_Hugo_Ochoa?=
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 4:20 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: PIPE FOR TAKE 3 SPOOL IDS
Tried this once, ended up having to init the packs from z/OS. needed a Format 5
label if I recall correctly.
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From: Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 15:49
Subject: Re: z/VM backuprestore
Hi
If you are cloning a specific z/VM LPAR to run at DR you might want to
use the
'SPXTAPE DUMP 182 SDF ALL' at the your home site to at least dump the
system files that are stored on the spool volumes. Using SPXTAPE will
allow you to dump the spool files while the system is running this way
it
Yes, that is what I do I just do a normal INIT on z/OS of the new packs
and then do my copy of the volumes not a problem.
Thank You,
Terry Martin
Lockheed Martin - Citic
z/OS and z/VM Performance Tuning and Operating Systems Support
Office - 443 348-2102
Cell - 443 632-4191
From:
Guys, please realize what I put forth works for ME, and it is up to YOU
to either use it, modify it, or throw it in the trash. As it stands, it
works perfectly well for its limited intended purpose in my plain-jane
VM admin environment. I usually don't shoot for elegant or proper
when I want it
If you format VM DASD from VM using the CPFMTXA EXEC is will ALWAYS
install a Format 5 label, and he few other and absolutely critical things
that VM requires. If you are not very careful to read the ICKDSF doc when
INITing a VM DASD from MVS, you can easily write a VTOC that makes it
appear
On Thursday, 02/25/2010 at 05:03 EST, Ivan Warren i...@vmfacility.fr
wrote:
Basically, I believe HCPCFC (which is OCO.. Yuck !) simply looks at the
length of the command passed, verifies it doesn't exceed the length of
the command and then does an EX/CLC for the abbreviation for the command
Les Koehler wrote:
Because CP looks up abbreviations first. CMS looks up the fully
qualified command first.
Unless they changed the rules after I retired.
CP Commands in HCPCOM are pretty much in the form of a table that
describes a string, a minimum abbreviation length and the entry point
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From: Alan Altmark alan_altm...@us.ibm.com
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: An SFS aid
Abbreviations are for humans, not programmers.
This 'ere programmer is human. Or at least I've been so programmed to
believe.
i
Ian S. Worthington wrote:
Abbreviations are for humans, not programmers.
This 'ere programmer is human. Or at least I've been so programmed to
believe.
i
/**/
say Sorry Ian S. Worthington (S. being abbreviated due to lack of
information
say however, I believe that programmers are a
What agent are you using on your Linux guest?
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On
Behalf Of Mike Walter
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 2:17 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: z/VM backuprestore procedure
If
We're not using an agent, read again:
Before we started shutting down our Linux P.O.C. guests (now down to
only one) while backing them up from CMS, ...
Each night during the VM:Backups on one z/VM system, that system uses
SENDFILE to send a file to the z/VM system running the Linux guests.
Hi Mike,
Thanks for the information. A couple of things, first I INIT all of my
SPOOL volumes and PAGE volumes via CPFMTXA on my z/VM system. I INIT the
other CKD volumes on z/OS (very carefully!).
Second in our environment we do not have the luxury to bring down our
z/Linux guests nightly
Mike,
Thank you for expounding on the 'dangers' of using z/OS backup/restore. Since
you went there...
Fuzzy backups of z/Linux 'generally' work without issue(so far for us too),
Linux can do/does do a file system check at startup -BUT- Mike's WARNING
should be taken very SERIOUSLY! Make sure
Alan Altmark wrote:
On Thursday, 02/25/2010 at 05:03 EST, Ivan Warren i...@vmfacility.fr
wrote:
Basically, I believe HCPCFC (which is OCO.. Yuck !) simply looks at the
length of the command passed, verifies it doesn't exceed the length of
the command and then does an EX/CLC for the
Les Koehler wrote:
The gory details escape me now, but we had a customer application at IGS that
issued a *lot* of CP commands. Customers complained of poor response time so
we consulted with Development and were advised that in that particular
situation we should abbreviate CP commands for
Or perhaps a JOIN in front of the VAR if you want them all in one variable
for displaying purposes.
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