Re: How to copy a disk using a z/Linux guest

2010-08-16 Thread Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of David Boyes Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 12:34 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: How to copy a disk using a z/Linux guest On 8/16/10 11:10 AM, "Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)" wrote: > First, we do not count

Re: How to copy a disk using a z/Linux guest

2010-08-16 Thread David Boyes
On 8/16/10 11:10 AM, "Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)" wrote: > First, we do not count on Full pack backups for our restores normally we > use FDRUPSTREAM to backup the guests file systems on a daily and weekly > basis, however the guests are still running when this is done other than > the Dat

Re: How to copy a disk using a z/Linux guest

2010-08-16 Thread Paul Raulerson
uld figure out how to get z/VM to talk to 'em. :) Yours, -Paul -Original Message- From: Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR) [mailto:terry.mar...@cms.hhs.gov] Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 09:32 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: How to copy a disk using a z/Linux guest Hi Further expla

Re: How to copy a disk using a z/Linux guest

2010-08-16 Thread Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
David Boyes Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 10:51 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: How to copy a disk using a z/Linux guest On 8/16/10 10:37 AM, "Macioce, Larry" wrote: > What about Bacula? Dr Boyes could speak could speak on this point better > And you always want to shutd

Re: How to copy a disk using a z/Linux guest

2010-08-16 Thread Alan Altmark
On Monday, 08/16/2010 at 10:47 EDT, RPN01 wrote: > Flashcopy does not account for any disk buffers linux still has cached and > unwritten. It will mitigate the situation where the disk is changing while > it is being backed up. > > All in all, if you're talking about running images, full-pack b

Re: How to copy a disk using a z/Linux guest

2010-08-16 Thread RPN01
> > >> -Original Message- >> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System >> [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of RPN01 >> Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 9:47 AM >> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU >> Subject: Re: How to copy a disk using a z/Linux guest &g

Re: How to copy a disk using a z/Linux guest

2010-08-16 Thread David Boyes
On 8/16/10 10:49 AM, "McKown, John" wrote: > Wouldn't doing a "dd" in the running Linux guest to a separate disk, then > backing up that disk result in a good backup? Assuming that the application > has synced its data, of course. If you unmount the filesystem you dumped to, yes. But, you have t

Re: How to copy a disk using a z/Linux guest

2010-08-16 Thread David Boyes
On 8/16/10 10:37 AM, "Macioce, Larry" wrote: > What about Bacula? Dr Boyes could speak could speak on this point better > And you always want to shutdown the guest to get a good backup Long term, setting up Bacula would probably be a Good Thing, but probably doesn't help much in this scenario, o

Re: How to copy a disk using a z/Linux guest

2010-08-16 Thread McKown, John
MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM > -Original Message- > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System > [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of RPN01 > Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 9:47 AM > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Subject: Re: How to copy a disk using a

Re: How to copy a disk using a z/Linux guest

2010-08-16 Thread RPN01
listserv.uark.edu] On > Behalf Of Rich Smrcina > Sent: August-16-10 9:37 AM > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Subject: Re: How to copy a disk using a z/Linux guest > > DDR won't care. It will take the VTOC with it. > > On 08/16/2010 08:29 AM, Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CT

Re: How to copy a disk using a z/Linux guest

2010-08-16 Thread Hans Rempel
@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: How to copy a disk using a z/Linux guest DDR won't care. It will take the VTOC with it. On 08/16/2010 08:29 AM, Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR) wrote: > > Hi > > I am trying to find out if there is a utility in z/Linux in my case RHEL 5.2 that wi

Re: How to copy a disk using a z/Linux guest

2010-08-16 Thread Macioce, Larry
) Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 10:33 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: How to copy a disk using a z/Linux guest Hi Further explanation. Here is my dilemma in a nut shell: I have a z/Linux volume on a guest that does not have a z/OS VTOC. We typically use DFDSS on z/OS to back the

Re: How to copy a disk using a z/Linux guest

2010-08-16 Thread Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
disk using a z/Linux guest DDR doesn’t care about VTOCs or anything. It simply copies whatever is there. A very useful trait in many cases. Peter -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR

Re: How to copy a disk using a z/Linux guest

2010-08-16 Thread Peter . Webb
DDR doesn't care about VTOCs or anything. It simply copies whatever is there. A very useful trait in many cases. Peter -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR) Sent: August 16, 2010 09:30 To

Re: How to copy a disk using a z/Linux guest

2010-08-16 Thread Rich Smrcina
DDR won't care. It will take the VTOC with it. On 08/16/2010 08:29 AM, Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR) wrote: Hi I am trying to find out if there is a utility in z/Linux in my case RHEL 5.2 that will allow me to copy a z/Linux formatted disk to another disk. Also do you know if DDR cares

Re: How to copy a disk using a z/Linux guest

2010-08-16 Thread McKown, John
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