Re: Please tell me I did something stupid

2009-03-18 Thread Rich Smrcina
Brian Nielsen wrote: I'm clearly swimming upstream, but I've never used the quick guides, and probably never will. Anything that is a summary of something else carries the risk of not being complete. Brian Nielsen I never used the quick guide either. Brian pretty much summed up the reas

Re: Please tell me I did something stupid

2009-03-18 Thread Adam Thornton
On Mar 18, 2009, at 10:13 AM, Alan Altmark wrote: Checklists and other preparatory advice, based on real-world experience, are ponies of a different color. They would definitely be a value- add, providing *guidance* (opinion) where IBM can usually only provide a *procedure*. Hey, man, *you'

Re: Please tell me I did something stupid

2009-03-18 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 03/18/2009 at 10:48 EDT, Adam Thornton wrote: > It strikes me that, given that we have several versions' worth of > excellent models, there's nothing really stopping, um, one of *us* > from doing a set of one page versions, one for tape, for first level > DVD, and for second level

Re: Please tell me I did something stupid

2009-03-18 Thread Adam Thornton
On Mar 18, 2009, at 3:10 AM, Rob van der Heij wrote: Bad idea to throw them away. But I would be happy with a "summary" chapter in the book that has the scenario for those who are not completely new to z/VM installation. It strikes me that, given that we have several versions' worth of excel

Re: Please tell me I did something stupid

2009-03-18 Thread Brian Nielsen
I'm clearly swimming upstream, but I've never used the quick guides, and probably never will. Anything that is a summary of something else carrie s the risk of not being complete. Brian Nielsen On Wed, 18 Mar 2009 01:36:17 -0400, Alan Altmark wrote: >On Tuesday, 03/17/2009 at 09:45 EDT,

Re: Please tell me I did something stupid

2009-03-18 Thread Huegel, Thomas
. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu]on Behalf Of william JANULIN Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:06 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Please tell me I did something stupid I agree.when I was working, I used the quick guides

Re: Please tell me I did something stupid

2009-03-18 Thread william JANULIN
I agree.when I was working, I used the quick guides, knowing full well that there was a more detailed install doc available.just in case. --- On Wed, 3/18/09, Mike Hammock wrote: > From: Mike Hammock > Subject: Re: Please tell me I did something stupid > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV

Re: Please tell me I did something stupid

2009-03-18 Thread Mike Hammock
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Re: Please tell me I did something stupid

2009-03-18 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 6:36 AM, Alan Altmark wrote: > I appreciate the sentiments.  We are not particularly happy about getting > rid of them, but their time had come.  In order to keep it to "one page", > the page was going to have to grow to a non-standard piece of paper > because the font was

Re: Please tell me I did something stupid

2009-03-17 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 03/17/2009 at 09:45 EDT, Mike Hammock wrote: > I also vote for keeping the Quick Guides... I think they are the best > thing since sliced bread! > The only suggestion I would make would be to 'simplify'; them by completely > separating the 1st level and 2nd level install instructio

Re: Please tell me I did something stupid

2009-03-17 Thread David Boyes
Ditto here. Installing VMWare is a 90 page booklet. The one page install was a great comparison. On 3/17/09 9:45 PM, "Mike Hammock" wrote: I also vote for keeping the Quick Guides... I think they are the best thing since sliced bread!

Re: Please tell me I did something stupid

2009-03-17 Thread Mike Hammock
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Re: Please tell me I did something stupid

2009-03-17 Thread O'Brien, Dennis L
>So, any idea why the DOSINST and CMSDOS segments didn't want to rebuild (I stupidly had CF1 accessed and was screwing around with SYSTEM CONFIG while PUT2PROD was running, so I had to rebuild CMS and all the segments the old-fashioned way)? I seem to recall this failing before sometime. I don't t

Re: Please tell me I did something stupid

2009-03-17 Thread Dean, David (I/S)
_ From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Adam Thornton Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 6:09 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Please tell me I did something stupid On Mar 17, 2009, at 5:03 PM, Alan Altmark wrote: On Tuesday,

Re: Please tell me I did something stupid

2009-03-17 Thread Scott Rohling
Umm -- how about 2 pages or 3 .. a foldout like all those 'quick start' guides I get with just about anything I purchase nowadays? There's got to be a happy medium between a single page and several hundred? (oops - and I see that Adam is maybe wondering the same?) Scott p.s. I'll even put up

Re: Please tell me I did something stupid

2009-03-17 Thread Adam Thornton
On Mar 17, 2009, at 5:03 PM, Alan Altmark wrote: On Tuesday, 03/17/2009 at 04:11 EDT, Adam Thornton wrote: All I did was download the RSU and then follow the "Service Procedure" paragraph on the Quick Install Guide. Because there's only so much you can put on one page and have it remai

Re: Please tell me I did something stupid

2009-03-17 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 03/17/2009 at 04:11 EDT, Adam Thornton wrote: > All I did was download the RSU and then follow the "Service Procedure" > paragraph on the Quick Install Guide. Because there's only so much you can put on one page and have it remain legible, the Quick Guides are going away. As this

Re: Please tell me I did something stupid

2009-03-17 Thread Adam Thornton
On Mar 17, 2009, at 2:53 PM, O'Brien, Dennis L wrote: Adam, It looks like SERVICE is trying to service LE instead of LESFS. There are a couple of items in the PSP bucket that have to do with SFS, but the descriptions aren't an exact match for this problem. Did you read all of the ZVM540 subset

Re: Please tell me I did something stupid

2009-03-17 Thread O'Brien, Dennis L
Adam, It looks like SERVICE is trying to service LE instead of LESFS. There are a couple of items in the PSP bucket that have to do with SFS, but the descriptions aren't an exact match for this problem. Did you read all of the ZVM540 subsets and do what they said? It's certainly possible to app

Re: Please tell me I did something stupid

2009-03-17 Thread Adam Thornton
On Mar 17, 2009, at 2:43 PM, Neale Ferguson wrote: The component is cpsfs or cmssfs ... Not cp or cms which are for minidisks. I just tried to run SERVICE ALL RPTF0168 Which, you know, *should* be able to figure it out. It has in the past. Adam

Re: Please tell me I did something stupid

2009-03-17 Thread Neale Ferguson
The component is cpsfs or cmssfs ... Not cp or cms which are for minidisks. On 3/17/09 3:36 PM, "Adam Thornton" wrote: > I just installed a virgin z/VM 5.4 with all products on filepool > rather than on minidisk. > > I only tweaked it enough to get a TCPIP stack up and running so that I > coul