Susan, how's Andi doing? Is he at the trainer's now?
Judy
http://iceryder.net
http://clickryder.com
So people in the US would actually pay $1500 to BREED from that?
For who? The horse or the rider? Don't blame the horse for the idiot on
his back..
Oh Wanda, you are too funny!
Karen
Karen Thomas
Wingate, NC
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I had a saddlebred named Hot Shot. He was a good horse and wasn't high
strung.
I saw one this spring that not only wasn't high strung, but was gaited AND
didn't have the swan neck. She looked like an awesome mare and she looked
like she could carry a load all day. She had been used for
Which practices were prohibited?
You can find the FIPO on www.feif.org
Well...not exactly a scared of the light look, but maybe a facial
expression that looks like the pain of the rider trying to pull the
horses lips up to their eyes:)
Yes, but that's a result of bad riding/training, not of
On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 17:21:20 -0600, you wrote:
I lay this firmly in the lap of the judges...and these are
international judges at these things. They are supposed to be the
cream of the crop.
Trouble is, judge's training concentrates on rewarding the high action
etc, and if you don't judge
On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 15:04:48 -0700, you wrote:
Mic, do you think that FIPO or FEIF, or Holar or any other entity will see
the light about natural gaits versus the mechanical gaits that are being
rewarded now?
Frankly, I think it's unlikely as they don't see the gaits as
mechanical.
Is there
I would too (call it 3.5 years) and that is where I guess I may have
misunderstood the timing of training. We don't start riding them until they
are at least 4 and have never had it be a problem if they are 5 or 6 or
whatever age. I think it must have to do a lot with the economics of
keeping
I guess most kids think it's gross when their parents show each other
affection. Look at the little guy's expression. :)
http://tinyurl.com/2wns3u
My caption: Mom and dad: I know we're endangered and all, but...yuuuck...
could ya PLEASE get a room!?!
Karen Thomas, NC
From: Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The final consideration (that I can immediately think of anyway) is that
this horse is a stallion.
Thank you Karen for taking the time to explain.
I thought a lot of his action was because he is a stallion. I did notice
the bell boots but not the length
From: Wanda Lauscher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
He might not have weights on in the video when he's
moving without a rider (I'd look again, but I can't stomach it
What is it that you can't stomach?
V
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From: Wanda Lauscher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It struck me when I saw the subject line, I wonder if the owners of
this stallion realize that we have been looking at their site and have
basically labelled the discussion 'freak show'??
Well, the horse does look freaky the way it moves -- la daddy long
On 25/08/07, Virginia Tupper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What is it that you can't stomach?
V
His tail. I suspect it was broken and put in a 'tail set' to keep it upright.
I might be wrong, I don't know enough about those things.
Then the rider is absolutely just awful, and he's yarding on
From: Wanda Lauscher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Presently I am working on a controlled canter with Gusti. Dagur is in
training and therefore has about 98 miles left of a walk to
accomplish.
Do you have a 'plan' that you follow in training?
V
From: Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Pam, there's a difference between critiquing and criticizing. We learn by
critiquing.
Personally, I love reading all the critiques because I learn from them, have
something visual to compare to.
I even think I might kind of like the horse. I hate how
From: Wanda Lauscher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
His tail. I suspect it was broken and put in a 'tail set' to keep it
upright.
OMG!!! People do that?!!!
V
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From: Pam Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
LETS SEE! We are so easy to criticize but lets look at personal videos.
PLEASE.WAITING!
I have some up on Judy's site: http://kickapps.com/icehorses
I could use some critiques!
V
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From: Robyn Hood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To me his action looks like a combination of natural action, weighted shoes
and perhaps elastics to make his knees snappier - what do you think Debbie
or anyone else familiar with the use of elastics.
Elastics!! Where would they put elastics?
V
And what about George Foreman, the fighter. Doesn't he have Icelandics.?
Annie
On Fri, Aug 24, 2007 at 03:04:48PM -0700, Judy Ryder wrote:
Is there any talk at all about changing away from the current way of
showing?
did any of you attend or see pictures from the recent tunbridge show?
i did not go myself (too much stupid politics about whether i was to be
in novice or
On Sat, Aug 25, 2007 at 09:44:24AM +0100, Mic Rushen wrote:
However, although FIPO shows are the main competition arena for
Icelandics internationally, on a national level there are many more
opportunities (well, at least in the UK and Europe, may not be the
same over there). Le Trec, LDR,
On Fri, Aug 24, 2007 at 12:31:59PM -0400, Karen Thomas wrote:
Training usually begins when the horse is four winters old.
Ima will soon be four winters old. I call that 3.5 though and I'm not
planning to start her any time soon, at least not under saddle.
a horse considered ready to
I Like this horse too, I grew up with Arabs, So watching this kind of
action is familar to my eye
I never used Machanical aids to get a horse to have more action... I
just know it was done... The Arabs were suppose to be Natural... They
had/have rules for length of toe
Getting the horse
On Sat, 25 Aug 2007 09:54:14 -0400, you wrote:
Hmm, that sounds like the same-old, same-old to me.
yes, this is obviously a very basic page written by a non-native english
speaker, outlining the basics in a short space.
And also written in a general touristy magazine as well, for
non-horse
--- Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Susan, how's Andi doing? Is he at the trainer's
now?
He doesn't go to the trainer's untill Oct. 1. His
golden palomino color is starting to fade (guess his
winter white is starting to come in!). I am taking
him on the trail with good ole Foxi. He is
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, Virginia Tupper [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Elastics!! Where would they put elastics?
V
I saw one woman basically tie the front legs together with rubber
tubing, it makes the horse have very exagerated action.
Kim
You're lucky to be in an area dry enough to keep him barefoot. My
farrier says here in West Wales it's virtually impossible to keep any
ridden horse barefoot (especially in front) as the amount of wet
weather make it really hard for horse's hooves to harden up enough
for them to cope.
I
Also, those Bell boots are to protect his front feet, cause he reaches
so far under himself with the hind legs, he can hit his front Heel
bulbs with a hind hoof, and CUT them up... Unless they are weighted
they are not changing his gait... The long toes will cause him to
breakover later... also
Hi Mic
However, although FIPO shows are the main competition arena for
Icelandics internationally, on a national level there are many more
opportunities (well, at least in the UK and Europe, may not be the
same over there). Le Trec, LDR, dressage, driving, RDA etc are all
being done very
Judy and Karen or any of you, ,
I seriously want a video
Robyn is probably the best one to get a video for us since she has Christine
and so many horses to chose from.
Judy
http://icehorses.net
http://clickryder.com
I have some up on Judy's site: http://kickapps.com/icehorses
I could use some critiques!
Can you get video with the camera closer to the horse?
It's best to have the photographer standing about 12 feet from where the
horse is going to pass by in front of the camera.
Judy
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, Mic Rushen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes, but that's a result of bad riding/training, not of keeping the
horse in a dark stable then bringing it out only for the show.
We were talking about the unnatural way the stallion Clout is
probably
kept, in order
Hi Wanda,
Pam, did you see the video I sent in of Bersi the other day?
He's got a nice ground covering saddle rack...and he's just a youngster.
Bersi is a nice horse and has very natural gaits, has since a baby.
I know what Pam is asking, it is one thing to show a nice relaxed loose rein
when a
Also, those Bell boots are to protect his front feet, cause he reaches
so far under himself with the hind legs, he can hit his front Heel bulbs
with a hind hoof, and CUT them up... Unless they are weighted they are not
changing his gait...
No, that's not really true. Just the very nature of
When my friends horse got overly excited and got into
I want to run mode, she started re-focusing his
attention back on her by doing some dressage exercises
on the trail. Video of this can be seen at:
I Vicka,
a horse considered ready to train is a coming five-year-old.
That is what I thought for a long time but when they are evaluating horses
when they are 4 years old they are generally starting them the winter before
which makes it the horses 4th winter but they are just coming four the next
How many sets of boots or whatever, are these horses allowed to wear?
http://gallery.mac.com/jtfreeman/100035/DPP_0225/web.jpg
http://gallery.mac.com/jtfreeman/100035/DPP_0234/web.jpg
http://gallery.mac.com/jtfreeman/100035/1A9B8559/web.jpg
Judy
http://icehorses.net
http://clickryder.com
Does anyone have a picture of an Icelandic without a ewe neck?
Yes, lots.
I was thinking more of a conformation-type picture, on the off-side of the
mane, so that we can see the complexus versus the brachio muscle.
Judy
http://icehorses.net
http://clickryder.com
I was thinking more of a conformation-type picture, on the off-side of
the mane, so that we can see the complexus versus the brachio muscle.
Have at it. This is a girl with an attitude. This Scarlett O'Hara
mare...well, frankly my dear, she doesn't give ...doggone...what anyone says
about her
On Sat, 25 Aug 2007 08:29:19 -0700, you wrote:
but it was so wet in the
area that we were looking, and talking to the horse owners there about feet,
made us think twice about it.
A lot of the UK is the same, sadly.
Mic
Mic (Michelle) Rushen
On Sat, 25 Aug 2007 08:33:07 -0700, you wrote:
And I think the actual percentage of competition show horses is only about
10% in any country, the majority of people pleasure ride and do these other
events with their horses.
Here the percentage is probably more, simply because many of the
On Sat, 25 Aug 2007 15:42:43 -, you wrote:
I would say in the US, these kinds of devices are widely used.
Yuck. Poor horses. It's a shame you can't get them banned in the US,
then perhaps they wouldn't creep into other breeds in Europe, as so
far it seems they are not widely known or used.
And I think the actual percentage of competition show horses is only
about 10% in any country, the majority of people pleasure ride and do these
other
events with their horses.
I've always heard 5% in the USA. I seem to remember that the TWH once had
that figure on their website as their
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, Mic Rushen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I would say in the US, these kinds of devices are widely used.
Yuck. Poor horses. It's a shame you can't get them banned in the
US,
then perhaps they wouldn't creep into other breeds in Europe, as so
far it seems they
Not a conformation pic, but is this a ewe neck?
No, this is.
Mic (Michelle) Rushen
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Solva Icelandic Horses and DeMeulenkamp Sweet Itch Rugs:
www.solva-icelandics.co.uk
On 25/08/07, Virginia Tupper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Do you have a 'plan' that you follow in training?
V
Do I ever have a plan? I'm not sure. It's just basically working on
gait transitions mostly...I'm a long way from having anything set in
stone.
Wanda
--- Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ok group, how many of you will take a few minuets out of your day
today or tomorrow to write a quick letter of Concern about these
harsher bits...its always easy to complain to people with
like
minds.how many of us Will actually write a
On Sat, 25 Aug 2007 10:45:49 -0700 (PDT), you wrote:
Well, what I will do is write a draft letter and ask about the use of
harsher bits, and what is the reasoning for allowing them.
I think they will simply tell you it's what is allowed in FIPO. I
would tend to add a comment that, if these bits
I have not had that experience with Bell boots.. I actually put them on
Jewel last year, while trailriding, cause he was hitting his heels, I had to
get his breakovers corrected, but that took time, so I protected his heels
until I could go without them, yes, maybe the first 10 minutes he moved
Hi Robyn,Hi List
Usually yes they are started at the 5 yo old winter when you are not in a hurry
and it´s common that you take your 4 yo in one monht or two
and as they are very unhandled it take´s them 2 -3 week just to get longed and
somewhat used to humans. But when you want to evaluat them
Re-sending this with the correct subject:
Do you have a 'plan' that you follow in training?
V
Do I ever have a plan? I'm not sure. It's just basically working on
gait transitions mostly...I'm a long way from having anything set in
stone.
Wanda
--- Raven [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello Everyone,
I wanted to give you all a quick update on Huginn. He still looks
tired and is quite. Last night and today, I noticed that Huginn is
again having some difficulties swallowing, which was the same thing
that was happening when we knew that
On 25/08/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Usually yes they are started at the 5 yo old winter when you are not in a
hurry and it´s common that you take your 4 yo in one monht or two
and as they are very unhandled it take´s them 2 -3 week just to get longed
and somewhat used to
Saw this ad on Horsetopia
I happened to see another mare for sale on that page that I thought I
recognized as the mother of a friend's horse. However her age didn't look
right.
Everyone does realize that you can do pedigree searches to confirm ages,
etc., on the USIHC website, as well as on
Here's a little video with Charm and mounting block practice:
http://iceryder.net/videocharmmounting.html
Judy
http://icehorses.net
http://clickryder.com
Go to a SHOW barn sometime and look around,
IF you can get into a show barn. Many of the worse ones won't let
outside folks in, b/c they don't want people to see the abuse and
soring that takes place.
Robyn S
Hi Robyn:
Will there be any Icelandics at The Master's at Spruce Meadows this year?
Wanda
On 8/25/07, Robyn Schulze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Go to a SHOW barn sometime and look around,
IF you can get into a show barn. Many of the worse ones won't let
outside folks in, b/c they don't want people to see the abuse and
soring that takes place.
Robyn S
Yes, that is true... I got in
scratching becomes a habit for them when bored! I am keeping
him a paddock where there is nothing to rub on. I am trying to find
out where I can by Flygone 7000 which is supposed to be a good fly
spray for gnats. if anyone knows where I can get it, let me know.
Janice
Janice:
Jeffers has
Here are a few IceHorses memory match games with our own pictures (pictures
of us or our horse) included:
http://iceryder.net/icehorsememorymatch.html
http://iceryder.net/icehorsememorymatch2.html
Find yourself! If you're not there, let me know as I'm building a few more
memory match games,
In a message dated 8/25/2007 11:42:14 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
My pony was not ready until this year. He was six in June. I think it
depends on the horse. I gelded him that helped some. He was silly before
that.
Sylvia
On Sat, Aug 25, 2007 at 03:53:42PM -0700, Judy Ryder wrote:
Here are a few IceHorses memory match games with our own pictures (pictures
of us or our horse) included:
http://iceryder.net/icehorsememorymatch.html
http://iceryder.net/icehorsememorymatch2.html
Find yourself! If you're not
http://iceryder.net/icehorsememorymatch.html
http://iceryder.net/icehorsememorymatch2.html
There should be an s at the end of icehorse. Here's the correct
addresses, as well as a third page:
http://iceryder.net/icehorsesmemorymatch.html
http://iceryder.net/icehorsesmemorymatch2.html
i'm afraid i only get the home page.
Are you able to get it now?
http://iceryder.net/icehorsesmemorymatch.html
http://iceryder.net/icehorsesmemorymatch2.html
http://iceryder.net/icehorsesmemorymatch3.html
Did you find you?
Judy
http://icehorses.net
http://clickryder.com
I posted two new videos of me riding Gloi. Less than flattering, I
might add. I felt that I had to pull on him and bang on his sides
more than I'd like. Between Cassie calling to him the whole time and
him seeming to be hesitant, I feel in part due to the slightly rocky
footing, we don't look
On Sat, Aug 25, 2007 at 06:40:47PM -0700, Judy Ryder wrote:
i'm afraid i only get the home page.
Are you able to get it now?
yup! the timing thing doesn't seem to do anything, but it's still fun.
such cute little icons!
Did you find you?
certainly did -- no mistaking fuzzy me on fuzzy
In this picture:
http://frontpage.simnet.is/sandraograggi/Myndir_2007_II/katina_forsale.jpg
what do you think of the rider's seat and his hands?
Does it look like the horse is easily or naturally gaited?
Judy
http://icehorses.net
http://clickryder.com
I'm thinking about getting him some protective boots. I'm leaning toward
the new Old Macs. I have a pair of the old easy boots that fit him, but
one came off too easily. I've used the older version of Old Macs on my
other horses. Both Old Macs and the easy boots have changed since I
http://frontpage.simnet.is/sandraograggi/Myndir_2007_II/katina_forsale.jpg
what do you think of the rider's seat and his hands?
I don't know - I'm still gawking over how far back that stupid saddle is -
the girth is mid-belly! And he's STILL sitting on the cantle. OUCH!
Does it look like the
I posted two new videos of me riding Gloi.
Very nice!
Also any input on the Boz saddle fit? I added a photo of
Gloi wearing the saddle.
http://affiliate.kickapps.com/kickapps/service/displayMediaPlayPage.kickAction?mediaType=PHOTOmediaId=492653as=6211
Can you take the sheepskin off and
On 8/25/07, Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Are you able to get it now?
http://iceryder.net/icehorsesmemorymatch.html
http://iceryder.net/icehorsesmemorymatch2.html
http://iceryder.net/icehorsesmemorymatch3.html
Did you find you?
Got it to work and found myself in the second one.
http://iceryder.net/icehorsesmemorymatch3.html
Got it to work and found myself in the second one.
I think there's a portrait picture of you and Gloi in #3.
Judy
http://icehorses.net
http://clickryder.com
Hi Wanda
I paid for a booth but have decided not to go this year. I have a torn
meniscus and minor tear to a ligament and have six weeks of teaching England
and South Africa in Sept and October and walking on the concrete for miles
at Spruce Meadows seems like the thing to miss. I have to have
Hi Karen,
We mostly use the Simple boots and they are so easy to put on and off. I
also have some of the Easy boots - new model can't remember the name - for
the horses with really small feet.
Robyn
Icelandic Horse Farm
Robyn Hood Phil Pretty
Vernon BC Canada
www.icefarm.com
On 25/08/07, Robyn Hood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Wanda
I paid for a booth but have decided not to go this year. I have a torn
meniscus and minor tear to a ligament and have six weeks of teaching England
and South Africa in Sept and October and walking on the concrete for miles
at Spruce
http://iceryder.net/icehorsesmemorymatch.html
http://iceryder.net/icehorsesmemorymatch2.html
http://iceryder.net/icehorsesmemorymatch3.html
Fun!! Thanks, Judy!
Robyn S
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