[IceHorses] Re: dreamhorse...now internal insect repellants

2007-09-24 Thread Kaaren Jordan
Regarding internal fly repellant & the B vites...Humans can take high amounts of B1 (75-100mg) in an isolated form for a few days/weeks to repel insects, but long term taking of an isolated B Vite in humans is not recommended as it can imbalance the system. I would think it would also be true for

[IceHorses] Re: Saddle up! This pony's a smooth ride now Mistrustful Horses

2007-09-24 Thread Kim Morton
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, "Karen Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I still don't think I'll ever part with him, > considering all he's been through, but he really has continued to trust and > settle more and more. > And I didn't really let her go, it wasn't really my choice, she di

[IceHorses] BillsBook highlighted stuff, starting with Author's Note: Bill Dorrance

2007-09-24 Thread Judy Ryder
By Jeanne, of the BillsBook List: It is near impossible to correlate a subject heading to a page in the book (True Horsemanship Through Feel: http://tinyurl.com/3bcrlw ) After returning from the Wilderness Ride in Sweden I took great pleasure in seeing what I had highlighted during previous s

RE: [IceHorses] More pics

2007-09-24 Thread Cherie Mascis
>>Now I'm trying to send multiple pics but I don't think I got this right >>Laree In Picasa, when you place a pic in the picture tray at the bottom, you have to push the hold button before clicking on the next photo. Cherie

RE: [IceHorses] Re: Saddle up! This pony's a smooth ride now Mistrustful Horses

2007-09-24 Thread Karen Thomas
I like to think that maybe even horses like this can maybe learn to trust one person. I had a horse for 14 years, not long enough, and when I got her, I know she felt no special love for people. I've had Loftur for three years now. I think I made a lot of good progress with him the first ye

RE: [IceHorses] More pics

2007-09-24 Thread Karen Thomas
Now I'm trying to send multiple pics but I don't think I got this right Oops, no attachments this time. Do you see the "photo tray" at the lower left corner of the Picassa screen? As you click on each picture, it will show up there. If you want to start accumulating pictures to send toget

RE: [IceHorses] Picture experimenting

2007-09-24 Thread Cherie Mascis
You got it! Cherie -Original Message- From: IceHorses@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Laree Shulman Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 8:59 PM To: icehorses Subject: [IceHorses] Picture experimenting I am experimenting to see if I figured out this Picassa thing There

[IceHorses] Re: Saddle up! This pony's a smooth ride now Mistrustful Horses

2007-09-24 Thread Kim Morton
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, "Judy Ryder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > And some of them, like Raudi, Rodi, Landi, Baersi, etc., do not like it; > don't care for people, and will never be reliable mounts. > I like to think that maybe even horses like this can maybe learn to trust o

RE: [IceHorses] Picture experimenting

2007-09-24 Thread Karen Thomas
I am experimenting to see if I figured out this Picassa thing There should be a picture of Doppa and Mura overseeing the construction of their run in shed - How did I do? You get an A! Karen Karen Thomas Wingate, NC No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition.

Re: [IceHorses] Huginn Update 9/25

2007-09-24 Thread Ferne Fedeli
On 9/24/07, Raven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > > Just a short update on Huginn. There are days...that I think he is > 100% back to himself and then there are days that I see a few > problems. For the most part he is doing so much better, but he is > still having some issues swallowing. > S

Re: [IceHorses] Saddle up! This pony's a smooth ride

2007-09-24 Thread Raven
>> In 2003, Arnason imported 83 of them from Iceland. They came to Manitoba by Icelandair and Air Canada. Many of those were for other people in places like New Mexico, New Jersey, and Montana, This was Huginn's shipment! Huginn was one of the 83.he was lucky enough to find his forever home

[IceHorses] More pics

2007-09-24 Thread Laree Shulman
Now I'm trying to send multiple pics but I don't think I got this right Laree

Re: [IceHorses] Saddle up! This pony's a smooth ride

2007-09-24 Thread Judy Ryder
>>>which parts of the article may not be exactly correct? > > Icelandic horse a rare breed Icelandic Horses are not a rare breed. A rare breed numbers less than 10,000 globally. > The ride is so smooth there are events where riders race around a track > while holding a mug of beer. "And they

Re: [IceHorses] The Cry of Censorship

2007-09-24 Thread Judy Ryder
> What should we do, Judy, if one of us has a single-item type horsey > something-or-other that we'd like to sell? Should we just drop a note to > you, asking if a short e-mail to the list is suitable? Sure, if there's any question, just ask. I don't think anyone has been refused to advertise

RE: [IceHorses] The Cry of Censorship

2007-09-24 Thread Karen Thomas
>>> Advertising is not freely allowed on the list. It has never been freely allowed. Trying to sneak in a word about your product every other message is not nice; it's not playing by the rules, and is selfish. I really appreciate the fact that advertising is limited on some of the lists, partic

Re: [IceHorses] dreamhorse

2007-09-24 Thread Janice McDonald
Tivar does a nice animated foxwalk but when asked for speed moves into a trot. At the last Liz clinic Liz said he had conformation to trot, and was built so he had exceptional weight carrying ability. But when I sent her a pic of him recently doing his foxwalk she said a foxtrot might be lurking

[IceHorses] Re: Come on!!!

2007-09-24 Thread JR
> Have we seen pictures of him? > > > Judy > http://icehorses.net > http://clickryder.com > If you go under the group pictures, look under Jakey. Sorry his head is on the ground but fresh grass can be pretty tempting. He is only 13'2 hands and build like a tank. He does seem to have this wei

[IceHorses] Huginn Update 9/25

2007-09-24 Thread Raven
Hello, Just a short update on Huginn. There are days...that I think he is 100% back to himself and then there are days that I see a few problems. For the most part he is doing so much better, but he is still having some issues swallowing. Then we'll have a few days...when he eats just fine and th

[IceHorses] OT-HomeMade Horse Trailer

2007-09-24 Thread Raven
HumIMHO...some folks are clueless. http://www.homesteadingtoday.com/showthread.php?t=206698 I'm surprised the troopers never pulled him over. Geez! Raven Lucy & Molly, the Girl Doggies Huginn & Dixie Chick, the Back Behind the Barn Ponies Respect ALL Earthlings. We are all animals of this p

Re: [IceHorses] dreamhorse

2007-09-24 Thread Ann Cassidy
I will be real curious to see how he does at the clinic. when I sent him off of two months of training to see if he had "tolt", I was told that he did but it was a bit difficult for him until he got the right muscling. he came home and only tolted for months. We/he let it slide and the saddle I had

RE: [IceHorses] Trailer

2007-09-24 Thread Cherie Mascis
>>Look at this trailer! >>http://www.homesteadingtoday.com/showthread.php?t=206698 >>V Oh my god!! That's plain crazy! Cherie

[IceHorses] Trailer

2007-09-24 Thread Virginia Tupper
Look at this trailer! http://www.homesteadingtoday.com/showthread.php?t=206698 V

[IceHorses] Re: Saddle up! This pony's a smooth ride

2007-09-24 Thread djakni1
> > no what she is saying is that icelandics are smooth but other breeds > are not. that was my understanding. I think tho a gaited horse that Thanks Janice - I guess I read it wrong this morning. I have never felt like I was bouncing back and forth in a diagonal gait..it always feels more

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Leslie Desmond yesterday

2007-09-24 Thread Judy Ryder
>>>When my back was turned for an instant one was > on the ground. He said she bucked him off. another time friends were > out in the pasture and a guy jumped on her bareback and without a > halter or bridle or asking me. I saw him later in the pasture lying > flat with his legs wailing around. an

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Leslie Desmond yesterday

2007-09-24 Thread Wanda Lauscher
On 24/09/2007, Ann Cassidy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I had another Icey mare who always bucked a couple of times when we > started to canter. I suspect it was the saddle. Those were my ignorant > days about saddle fit. I know I have had few ignorant days myselfand I fully expect to have man

[IceHorses] The Cry of Censorship

2007-09-24 Thread Judy Ryder
As previously noted, there would have to be someone with their own agenda who would cry "censorship". Look, we had people complaining about others being rude. List management tried to do something about it. Now the ones who were complaining are complaining about something being done! List ma

Re: [IceHorses] Hackamores (Bitless)

2007-09-24 Thread Nancy Sturm
The first I ever started I rode in a traditional Californio bosal with that extra (on mine soft cotton) long lead goody that went to the saddle. It's the only time I've ever used one and the whole process actually went beautifully. I never did put her in a bit. I think probably for a beginning t

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Saddle up! This pony's a smooth ride

2007-09-24 Thread Janice McDonald
On 9/24/07, djakni1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > That bouncing back and forth makes it feel like your entrails are > being > > rearranged, for the amateur rider. > > > > Having one's entrails rearranged is a graphic description. The horses > must have a hard pace instead of a tolt! Who would

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Leslie Desmond yesterday

2007-09-24 Thread Ann Cassidy
That reminded me of my Stella who is now 24 with Cushings. Years ago I would let some male friends ride her once in awhile that really did not know about horses. When my back was turned for an instant one was on the ground. He said she bucked him off. another time friends were out in the pasture an

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Hands: Pony or Horse

2007-09-24 Thread Janice McDonald
> > I'll probably be shot:), I've gotten in trouble for this before, but > I really don't think there is actually a lot of difference between > the mountain breeds, people in California would like to think so, > but around here, people say they are all the same. I don't think my > mare is so unusua

Re: [IceHorses] E-Z Ride Stirrups

2007-09-24 Thread Janice McDonald
in a tapadero you would still have a hole at your toe :) Janice-- yipie tie yie yo

Re: [IceHorses] Bosal?

2007-09-24 Thread Janice McDonald
speaking of, Parelli has this series on RFDTV now, I am really enjoying it. Now he is working with pedro, a problem Firesian. Well, he rode his horse driving pedro in drive lines, but not to a bit, to a rope halter. It was awesome! What amazed me is this Pedro had never been driven, had no bit,

Re: [IceHorses] dreamhorse

2007-09-24 Thread Janice McDonald
> > Nope, don't think he ever even strung two bucks together. it is funny > the things that Janice finds not to be a problem with Tivar (nipping > when the cinch was too tight, shaking his head or whatever) frustrated > me horrible, I kept thinking he was very unhappy with me and did not > like me

[IceHorses] Bitless

2007-09-24 Thread Judy Ryder
>From Pat on GaitedHorse about bitless: I had bit issues with my current horse, Dakota, not gaited. I tried a couple of bits, but we do not have the vast array of bit types to try here in Mexico. Everyone said the curb bit used was not severe, but I just felt reluctance in movement and after about

Re: [IceHorses] dreamhorse

2007-09-24 Thread Ann Cassidy
> > Tivar would wring his tail and walk backwards and stamp his feet and > turn to bite at my stirrup when he had a girth pinching him etc. I > bet if he had saddle pain he woulda tried to buck. When I got my first Sensation and Skito dryback, I was at Robyn's in Canada. I put it on Tivar and we

[IceHorses] Re: Leslie Desmond yesterday

2007-09-24 Thread Kim Morton
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, "Janice McDonald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> He tried to pass. I scolded. whack. > > So what instinct is that? I'm sorry, I just have seen it too much... > horses do act bratty, and sneaky, with each other, and with us. Its > almost comical. it is comic

Re: [IceHorses] Raud

2007-09-24 Thread Ann Cassidy
I am the one that sent that note signed by Rene. Guess I deleted my name and left hers on after deleting the message. Sorry. Anyway, I wrote tho woman again and mentioned the bucking and she was adamant that he had only bucked once and then was thrown into a round pen for a year and a half, At Mon

Re: [IceHorses] Bosal?

2007-09-24 Thread Judy Ryder
> Judy, are you planning to use a bosal when you start Charm? No, probably the rope halter, altho I started Vinur with absolutely nothing. What I'd do with him, is walk down to the end of the driveway to pick up the mail. He'd be in his pasture, but follow along. Then I'd climb the fence,

Re: [IceHorses] Leslie Desmond yesterday

2007-09-24 Thread Laree Shulman
> So what instinct is that? I'm sorry, I just have seen it too much... > horses do act bratty, and sneaky, with each other, and with us. Its > almost comical. it is comical. to me :) Janice - I find it comical, too, because Doppa does the same exact thing. If she doesn't get her way about s

[IceHorses] Re: Hands: Pony or Horse

2007-09-24 Thread Kim Morton
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, "Janice McDonald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> a small breed whereas rockies are sorta on the small side i think. Out here they are usually on the short side, maybe around 14.2. I > have seen some humungous Mountain pleasure Horses but every purebred > ro

Re: [IceHorses] Come on!!!

2007-09-24 Thread kolugil
HI JR and Jakey no all icelandic´s don´t don´t do soft gait´s but almost all 99% do canter and almost all can trot thou that theese that are 5+ gaited have a 4 beaten trot or have a hard time to do it under rider but often at freedom they do a fine trot and canter. about the canter we have galo

Re: [IceHorses] Come on!!!

2007-09-24 Thread Lorraine
--- JR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Do all Icelandic Horses gait? I had a women tell me > that there is no > way my Jakey can be an Icelandic because he doesn't > tolt, pace, and > he will canter. She said that Icelandics don't > canter. Both my Iceys canter. I am pretty sure they are Ice

Re: [IceHorses] Leslie Desmond yesterday

2007-09-24 Thread Janice McDonald
On 9/21/07, Nancy Sturm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ..."horse doesn't make an intellectual decison..." Bless the woman. I am > so sick of reading (not on this list, ladies) that "my horse tried to do > (fill in the blank) to me." We have plans. Horses really don't. > > Nancy > what does i

Re: [IceHorses] E-Z Ride Stirrups

2007-09-24 Thread Lorraine
> On 9/22/07, Lorraine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I hate tapaderos. > > > No. I Mean why don't you like tapaderos. I use EZ rides on most of my saddles. I would think they would be good because of the cactus that gets stuck in my toe. LOL. Lorraine _

[IceHorses] Re: Saddle up! This pony's a smooth ride

2007-09-24 Thread djakni1
> That bouncing back and forth makes it feel like your entrails are being > rearranged, for the amateur rider. > Having one's entrails rearranged is a graphic description. The horses must have a hard pace instead of a tolt! Who would want an Icelandic with this description? Yikes... -Kris

Re: [IceHorses] Polygraph tests for Staff at TWH Celebration

2007-09-24 Thread Janice McDonald
hmmm, a redneck lie detector test his lips are moving. haha Janice-- yipie tie yie yo

Re: [IceHorses] Bosal?

2007-09-24 Thread Janice McDonald
On 9/23/07, Nancy Sturm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Judy, are you planning to use a bosal when you start Charm? > > Nancy > hahaha i would like to see THAT :) I bet she is started in a rope halter. I just bet Janice -- yipie tie yie yo

Re: [IceHorses] Hackamores (Bitless)

2007-09-24 Thread Janice McDonald
i did not watch this all the way thru... it was boring :) But I would like to point out I have heard people say hackamores do not work with some gaited horses, especially a bosal because it will have an unintentional effect of discouraging gait, that when a horse head nods or has gaited head energ

Re: [IceHorses] Raud

2007-09-24 Thread Janice McDonald
On 9/23/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I also inquired about this horse and was told that he has spent a month at > Monty Roberts. The lady never mentioned that he has a bucking problem, just > that he needs a lot of hours in the saddle. Wonder what Monty did to him?!? > If

Re: [IceHorses] dreamhorse

2007-09-24 Thread Janice McDonald
On 9/23/07, Nancy Sturm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We had a very nice POA here for a while. We were told he had bucked and > unseated a five year old boy and was looking for a new home. We also knew > he'd been a lesson pony over jumps in a posh California barn and had been > sent to Oregon to

Re: [IceHorses] Hands: Pony or Horse

2007-09-24 Thread Janice McDonald
i dont know about RMHs show rules but i do know as a rule they are built sorta dainty, around 14hh and not stocky built. I know in the TWHBEA rules they have classes for "14hh and under" but they dont call them ponies i dont think. and walkers are not generally thought of as a small breed whereas

Re: [IceHorses] Come on!!!

2007-09-24 Thread Janice McDonald
> > >>> Do all Icelandic Horses gait? > > No, they do not. > its not an icelandic thing its a gaited horse thing. not all gaited horses gait. some gaited horses will gait great and then sold never gait again, which is an indication of saddlefit/rider complications. Some rackers walk, some walker

RE: [IceHorses] Raud

2007-09-24 Thread Karen Thomas
I also inquired about this horse and was told that he has spent a month at Monty Roberts. This horse had a bucking problem two years ago, and at that time he'd never been to Monty Roberts. I don't think we can blame Monty Roberts for this one...not that I'm a big Monty Roberts fan. Karen

Re: [IceHorses] EZ ride Tapadero pictures

2007-09-24 Thread Laree Shulman
. They really > work. > > Another thing that really works to keep warm (I can't believe I'm even discussing this when the temps around her refuse to go below 90 during the day) is to use those Therma Wrap back wraps - they really keep your core warm all day. -- Laree What a horse does under

Re: [IceHorses] Hands: Pony or Horse

2007-09-24 Thread Nancy Sturm
I'm not sure about current rules, but back in the day, adults were certainly showing both Arabs and Quarter Horses that did not stand 14.2. I had a friend who was very successful in both dressage and hunter classes on a tiny Arab mare and there was a retiree at a nearby boarding facility that had

Re: [IceHorses] Hands: Pony or Horse

2007-09-24 Thread Skye and Sally ~Fire Island
> Height is not the determining factor as to whether it is a pony or > not, just > want to be sure that we're all on the same page with that. > > The almost 16 hand Icelandic is still a pony, and the 13 hand RMH > is still a > horse. > > http://iceryder.net/pony.html Ok then, would an ad

Re: [IceHorses] Sloping Shoulder / Skye

2007-09-24 Thread Judy Ryder
>> >>>a sloping big shoulder and a neck that connects to the back of >> > the withers >> >> Skye, do you have a picture of a sloping shoulder? What degree of >> slope is it? > > Well I do not have the degree, its in my eye. I know when I see it. > I can send you pics of some horses over here...b

RE: [IceHorses] Hands:who would want one?

2007-09-24 Thread Skye and Sally ~Fire Island
--- Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Typically it is American culture it seems that believes Ponies > are for > children > > > Judging from the number of HUGE warmbloods, Friesians, Drafts, > Draft > crosses, Friesians, and Irish Draughts, etc. I see from Europe, I > don't > t

Re: Re: [IceHorses] Pictures of Fjóla

2007-09-24 Thread Skise
Judy Ryder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> kirjoitti: > > > >>>Today I got the first pictures of Fjóla. > > She looks really good! How tall is she? She was advertised as about 136 cm but might be smaller (I was also told my former horse was 136 cm and he was taller) > You'll have to get some pictures