RE: [IceHorses] Height versus "size" of a horse/Iceland(Karen

2007-02-28 Thread Robyn Hood
Hi Janice, >anyway. I wonder if there could be a connection to going >on a really great nutrition feed program and then subsequently, late >growth? I would think that is true in some cases but I have seen horses that I know how they were fed and while they weren't scrawny or small when younger,

RE: [IceHorses] Height versus "size" of a horse/Iceland(Karen

2007-02-28 Thread Karen Thomas
>>> I wonder if there could be a connection to going on a really great nutrition feed program and then subsequently, late growth? I think that could be a factor sometimes, but in Sina's case, she lived on what had to be the best pastures in KY until she was five - big, and full of varied and mixed

RE: [IceHorses] Height versus "size" of a horse/Iceland(Karen

2007-02-28 Thread Karen Thomas
>>> Anyway, I have experienced what would be considered late growth, in many Icelandics, sometimes it is muscle development - widening in the chest and filling out through the body - and other times it is definitely growth in height. I have seen them finish growing at 7 and it can be horses born i

Re: [IceHorses] Height versus "size" of a horse/Iceland(Karen

2007-02-28 Thread Janice McDonald
On 2/28/07, Robyn Hood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Anyway, I have experienced what would be considered late growth, in many > Icelandics, sometimes it is muscle development - widening in the chest and > filling out through the body - and other times it is definitely growth in > height. I have

RE: [IceHorses] Height versus "size" of a horse/Iceland(Karen

2007-02-28 Thread Robyn Hood
Hi Laree, >He's grown at least an inch since then, which > surprised me that a horse would grow so late. >Karen, do you really think it was growing or more a matter of muscle >development? My emails arrive in such a random order I just received this Wed. morning - I also get lots of emails twi

Re: [IceHorses] Height versus "size" of a horse/Iceland(Karen

2007-02-26 Thread Stephanie Caldwell
On 2/26/07, Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There's no doubt that he's put on a lot of muscle - not that hauling Cary's > big old self around is like lifting weights or anything...:) But, I really > can't imagine a horse adding a full inch, maybe more, to their height due to > muscl

RE: [IceHorses] Height versus "size" of a horse/Iceland(Karen

2007-02-26 Thread Karen Thomas
It could have been grwoth, of course, but if you think about it, a bodybuilder can add much more than an inch to his biceps when he starts working out. It's definitely been my experience that horses are more likely to outgrow a saddle due to increased muscle growth rather than due to increase

Re: [IceHorses] Height versus "size" of a horse/Iceland(Karen

2007-02-26 Thread Stephanie Caldwell
On 2/26/07, Laree Shulman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It could have been grwoth, of course, but if you think about it, a > bodybuilder can add much more than an inch to his biceps when he > starts working out. I read somewhere that the Dressage horses can grow 3 or 4" by the time they reach t

Re: [IceHorses] Height versus "size" of a horse/Iceland(Karen

2007-02-26 Thread Laree Shulman
But, I really > can't imagine a horse adding a full inch, maybe more, to their height due to > muscle development. It could have been grwoth, of course, but if you think about it, a bodybuilder can add much more than an inch to his biceps when he starts working out. -- Laree

RE: [IceHorses] Height versus "size" of a horse/Iceland(Karen

2007-02-26 Thread Karen Thomas
>>> Karen, do you really think it was growing or more a matter of muscle development? Laree There's no doubt that he's put on a lot of muscle - not that hauling Cary's big old self around is like lifting weights or anything...:) But, I really can't imagine a horse adding a full inch, maybe more

Re: [IceHorses] Height versus "size" of a horse/Iceland(Karen

2007-02-26 Thread Laree Shulman
He's grown at least an inch since then, which > surprised me that a horse would grow so late. Karen, do you really think it was growing or more a matter of muscle development? -- Laree

Re: [IceHorses] Height versus "size" of a horse/Iceland

2007-02-26 Thread Janice McDonald
On 2/25/07, Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > LOL it's my long lost ex!! No .. wait... he wasn't such a snazzy > dresser. He was a camo type of guy. :) Denise > > HA! So...were you married to Gunelda's husband? Do you remember our > earlier discussions of Gunelda? :) > > Karen T

RE: [IceHorses] Height versus "size" of a horse/Iceland

2007-02-25 Thread Karen Thomas
LOL it's my long lost ex!! No .. wait... he wasn't such a snazzy dresser. He was a camo type of guy. :) Denise HA! So...were you married to Gunelda's husband? Do you remember our earlier discussions of Gunelda? :) Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [IceHorses] Height versus "size" of a horse/Iceland(Karen

2007-02-25 Thread Karen Thomas
>>> I put them on an even surface, give them some treats in a bowl and measure. What do others do? I don't know, but we must measure the same way, since we both measured Tivar at 13.1H! :) Actually, I usually measure them about 3-4 times, on level ground from each side and don't pay too much at

Re: [IceHorses] Height versus "size" of a horse/Iceland(Karen

2007-02-25 Thread Stephanie Caldwell
On 2/25/07, Ann Cassidy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I learned to measure at the highest point near whithers( not at the rear > end) when the horses head is down. I put them on an even surface, give them > some treats in a bowl and measure. What do others do? I have a redneck measuring stick..

Re: [IceHorses] Height versus "size" of a horse/Iceland(Karen

2007-02-25 Thread Ann Cassidy
> > >>> yes we can agree on that they don´t > shrink,but then how do we measure different?<<< I learned to measure at the highest point near whithers( not at the rear end) when the horses head is down. I put them on an even surface, give them some treats in a bowl and measure. What do others

RE: [IceHorses] Height versus "size" of a horse/Iceland(Karen

2007-02-25 Thread Karen Thomas
yes we can agree on that they don´t shrink,but then how do we measure different? That, I couldn't answer you. Do you use a "stick" to measure them? This is like the one I use - sorry it's not a good picture: http://tinyurl.com/38n4nb In the one evaluation video where I saw horses being

RE: [IceHorses] Height versus "size" of a horse/Iceland(Karen

2007-02-25 Thread Ingvar Ragnarsson
At 15:05 24.2.2007, you wrote: > Here in Iceland a 13.1 (133 cm) horse is really small I can hardly sell >it > >That doesn't make sense, unless you measure differently. I've seen lots of >imports and lots of domestic's and I'd say that 13.1-13.2H is about average. >The horses certainly don't

RE: [IceHorses] Height versus "size" of a horse/Iceland

2007-02-25 Thread Ingvar Ragnarsson
> >I've also seen a lot of pics from Iceland, and I would >say that they could be measuring them differently as >they seem small compared to the size of the riders - >either that or Icelanders are giants compared to us! Oh I think most of the woman around me are 170-175 cm and men aeound 1

Re: [IceHorses] Height versus "size" of a horse/Iceland

2007-02-25 Thread PeicasaArt ~ Denise Every
>No .. wait... he wasn't such a snazzy dresser. He was a camo type of guy. ;)<< [Brackets point >>>INTO<<< the quoted text.] Er... make that camos and football jerseys :) Peicasa Art: http://stores.ebay.com/Peicasa-Fine-Animal-and-Nature-Art We make a living by what we get, we make a

Re: [IceHorses] Height versus "size" of a horse/Iceland

2007-02-25 Thread PeicasaArt ~ Denise Every
you are forgetting about Guneldas husband, the worlds tallest icelander.< LOL it's my long lost ex!! No .. wait... he wasn't such a snazzy dresser. He was a camo type of guy. ;) Denise Peicasa Art: http://stores.ebay.com/Peicasa-Fine-Animal-and-Nature-Art We make a living by

Re: [IceHorses] Height versus "size" of a horse/Iceland

2007-02-25 Thread Janice McDonald
On 2/24/07, Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The few Icelander men that I've seen have been around 6'0" tall plus or > minus an inch or two and maybe 180-220 pounds. you are forgetting about Guneldas husband, the worlds tallest icelander. Janice -- yipie tie yie yo <>

RE: [IceHorses] Height versus "size" of a horse/Iceland

2007-02-24 Thread Karen Thomas
One of the Icelanders that rode one of our short mares was 6'7 and weighed 350 lbshe made all the horse look small! Not saying that they are all that big, but they do seem to have some height to them. The few Icelander men that I've seen have been around 6'0" tall plus or minus an inch o

RE: [IceHorses] Height versus "size" of a horse/Iceland

2007-02-24 Thread Storme Lee~Fire Island Farms
--- susan cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've also seen a lot of pics from Iceland, and I would > say that they could be measuring them differently as > they seem small compared to the size of the riders - > either that or Icelanders are giants compared to us! > Susan in NV One of the Ic

RE: [IceHorses] Height versus "size" of a horse/Iceland

2007-02-24 Thread Storme Lee~Fire Island Farms
--- Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here in Iceland a 13.1 (133 cm) horse is really small I can > hardly sell it > > That doesn't make sense, unless you measure differently. I've seen > lots of imports and lots of domestic's and I'd say that 13.1-13.2H is about average. The horse

Re: [IceHorses] Height versus "size" of a horse/Iceland

2007-02-24 Thread Judy Ryder
>>>I have never seen a 12 Icelandic horse and what then a 11.3! There was a palomino stallion by the name of Siggi, I think, who was a pace racer, at 11.3 hands. This is from the standard: "The ideal size lies between 130 and 135 cm/12.3-13.1 hands measured with a rigid stick measured at the

RE: [IceHorses] Height versus "size" of a horse/Iceland

2007-02-24 Thread Karen Thomas
I've also seen a lot of pics from Iceland, and I would say that they could be measuring them differently as they seem small compared to the size of the riders - either that or Icelanders are giants compared to us! Somewhere I read that Icelanders are, on average, the tallest nationality in th

RE: [IceHorses] Height versus "size" of a horse/Iceland

2007-02-24 Thread Karen Thomas
except for Kria who is probably closest to the size of my idea of what their perfect size should be and she's probably around 12 hands. And Kria's baby, Saga, is one of my shortest Icelandics. She's around 13H, maybe even 12.3H. She's not tiny, just short, a nice sized mount for mo

Re: [IceHorses] Height versus "size" of a horse/Iceland

2007-02-24 Thread Wanda Lauscher
> I've also seen a lot of pics from Iceland, and I would > say that they could be measuring them differently as > they seem small compared to the size of the riders - > either that or Icelanders are giants compared to us! > Susan in NV I don't knowthat might be the case. My Afi was hugeju

RE: [IceHorses] Height versus "size" of a horse/Iceland

2007-02-24 Thread susan cooper
--- Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here in Iceland a 13.1 (133 cm) horse is really > small I can hardly sell > it > > That doesn't make sense, unless you measure > differently. I've seen lots of > imports and lots of domestic's and I'd say that > 13.1-13.2H is about average. > Th

RE: [IceHorses] Height versus "size" of a horse/Iceland

2007-02-24 Thread Karen Thomas
Here in Iceland a 13.1 (133 cm) horse is really small I can hardly sell it That doesn't make sense, unless you measure differently. I've seen lots of imports and lots of domestic's and I'd say that 13.1-13.2H is about average. The horses certainly don't get smaller the instant they hit USA a

Re: [IceHorses] Height versus "size" of a horse/Iceland

2007-02-24 Thread Ingvar Ragnarsson
Here in Iceland a 13.1 (133 cm) horse is really small I can hardly sell it I have 3 mare´s in this Height Þeysa Vordís and Romsa ,mostly my horses is around 13.3but there are breeders around me that has the medium size in the herd around 13.4. My herd is considired like medium-small horses by

Re: [IceHorses] Height versus "size" of a horse

2007-02-23 Thread Stephanie Caldwell
On 2/23/07, Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Platform horseshoes...I hadn't thought of that. I don't think that way > myself, because I'm 5'0" barefoot, and I could care less. I never wear > heels - the way I look at it, I can be "very short" and comfortable, or > "fairly short" and mis

Re: [IceHorses] Height versus "size" of a horse

2007-02-23 Thread Judy Ryder
>> It's just not true; it's not reality; who are they trying to kid?!?!? >> >> And why? > > But, Judy's question got me thinking; I have a theory on the 'why' of > this. When a horse is under 14 hands, people think 'Pony' and then > 'Kids'. Despite all the beautiful pictures of adults (tall > men

RE: [IceHorses] Height versus "size" of a horse

2007-02-23 Thread Robyn Hood
Hi Dee >But, Judy's question got me thinking; I have a theory on the 'why' of >this. When a horse is under 14 hands, people think 'Pony' and then >'Kids'. The same way when they hear 'That movie is PG' they think 'so >it must be for kids'. Glad you came out of lurkdom. That is what we have said

RE: [IceHorses] Height versus "size" of a horse

2007-02-23 Thread Karen Thomas
>>> Despite all the beautiful pictures of adults (tall men, too) riding these magnificent horses -- I suspect that marketers are trying to avoid the "It's only a horse I can buy for my kids" demographic, so they're fudging the numbers and/or buying platform horseshoes, I guess. :) Platform horsesh

Re: [IceHorses] Height versus "size" of a horse

2007-02-22 Thread Dee Dreslough
On Thu, 2007-02-22 at 13:16 -0800, Judy Ryder wrote: > >I would say realistically 12 to 13.2 and every now and then 14. Gosh > > why is everyone obsessed with 14... > > It's just not true; it's not reality; who are they trying to kid?!?!? > > And why? Hi Everyone! :) My name's Dee. I've been

Re: [IceHorses] Height versus "size" of a horse

2007-02-22 Thread Judy Ryder
>I would say realistically 12 to 13.2 and every now and then 14. Gosh > why is everyone obsessed with 14... Tivar isn't 14 and he is plenty > tall. Nasi is like 13.1 now I think and he is just about right... I think it's a misrepresentation to list the height of Icelandic Horses as "12 to 15

Re: [IceHorses] Height versus "size" of a horse

2007-02-22 Thread Janice McDonald
I would say realistically 12 to 13.2 and every now and then 14. Gosh why is everyone obsessed with 14... Tivar isn't 14 and he is plenty tall. Nasi is like 13.1 now I think and he is just about right... do they grow taller after age 3 very often?? Nasi was 12.2 as a yearling so i thought he wo

Re: [IceHorses] Height versus "size" of a horse

2007-02-21 Thread Stephanie Caldwell
On 2/21/07, Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How about 12-14H... I believe they also had some oceanfront property in Arizona on that site, didn't they? >bg< Steph -- "Brutality begins where skill ends." "Correctly understood, work at the lunge line is indispensable for rider and hors

RE: [IceHorses] Height versus "size" of a horse

2007-02-21 Thread Karen Thomas
>>> On an Icelandic Horse promoter's website, in regard to height of Icelandic Horses, it says: "12 to 15 hands" How about 12-14H... Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [IceHorses] Height versus "size" of a horse

2007-02-21 Thread Judy Ryder
> I saw that Malin mentioned the height of the horses a couple of times, > when > she talked about weight carrying. Height is not a criteria for weight > carrying. On an Icelandic Horse promoter's website, in regard to height of Icelandic Horses, it says: "12 to 15 hands" Comments? Judy h

Re: [IceHorses] Height versus "size" of a horse

2007-02-21 Thread Janice McDonald
On 2/20/07, Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > (I´m not considered tall woman in Iceland) and my horses are from 133cm at > withers to 145 cm. in a rainy weather,and all horses was fine when we > come home and how many of us is under 85 kg package on horses bigger than > 138cm!? > I

[IceHorses] Height versus "size" of a horse

2007-02-20 Thread Karen Thomas
(I´m not considered tall woman in Iceland) and my horses are from 133cm at withers to 145 cm. in a rainy weather,and all horses was fine when we come home and how many of us is under 85 kg package on horses bigger than 138cm!? I saw that Malnin mentioned the height of the horses a couple of