Re: [ilugd] D00d3tt3z on ILUG-d?

2005-08-22 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2005-08-19 13:32:33 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the prevailing atmosphere??? Right. I can answer that question better now, mostly by having studied the responses in this thread. Let's have a look, shall we? 1. Denial. What's wrong with the atmosphere, dammit? 2. Proof-by-anecdote that

Re: [ilugd] D00d3tt3z on ILUG-d?

2005-08-22 Thread Pankaj kaushal
hassath wrote: On Fri, 2005-08-19 at 22:45, Abhijit Menon-Sen wrote: And Pankaj, this thread repeatedly will raise its ugly head because this issue has not been resolved. I am not sorry that it causes discomfort in your complacent world. I am neither discomforted by the discussion nor am I

Re: [ilugd] D00d3tt3z on ILUG-d?

2005-08-22 Thread hassath
On Mon, 2005-08-22 at 12:25, Pankaj kaushal wrote: I am neither discomforted by the discussion nor am I complacent, merely un-interested in discussions without a result. If there is a result-less discussion, maybe you could take more responsibility for it- you too are part of this list. What

[ilugd] license expire notice using cpanel

2005-08-22 Thread Pardeep Garg
hi, I get a license expire notice when I try to login using cpanel on some remote server. This is usually corrected within minutes but some cases we may not be aware of the issue. I don't know why it does this. sometimes it takes numerous tries to get in. Somebody help me about this matter??

Re: [ilugd] D00d3tt3z on ILUG-d?

2005-08-22 Thread hassath
On Mon, 2005-08-22 at 12:07, Abhijit Menon-Sen wrote: At 2005-08-19 13:32:33 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the prevailing atmosphere??? Right. I can answer that question better now, mostly by having studied the responses in this thread. Let's have a look, shall we? 1. Denial. What's

Re: [ilugd] license expire notice using cpanel

2005-08-22 Thread Raj Mathur
Pardeep == Pardeep Garg [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Pardeep hi, I get a license expire notice when I try to login Pardeep using cpanel on some remote server. Pardeep This is usually corrected within minutes but some cases Pardeep we may not be aware of the issue. Pardeep I

Re: [ilugd] D00d3tt3z on ILUG-d?

2005-08-22 Thread Raj Mathur
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hassath == hassath [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hassath [snip] Hassath Thanks ams- i agree with all your points. I want to add Hassath another one, which i have mentioned in my response to Hassath Pankaj- the freedel blog has a

Re: [ilugd] D00d3tt3z on ILUG-d?

2005-08-22 Thread Nitin Chandra
Fair enough. The attempt at humour was supposed to achieve the reverse of what you are reading it as, but that doesn't make a difference in this context. As I see it, we have two options open to us: - - Everyone introspect and figure out ways of doing things right so that more

Re: [ilugd] D00d3tt3z on ILUG-d?

2005-08-22 Thread Sandip Bhattacharya
On Monday, 22 Aug 2005 1:19 pm, hassath wrote: On Mon, 2005-08-22 at 12:25, Pankaj kaushal wrote: I am neither discomforted by the discussion nor am I complacent, merely un-interested in discussions without a result. If there is a result-less discussion, maybe you could take more

Re: [ilugd] D00d3tt3z on ILUG-d?

2005-08-22 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Nitin Chandra wrote: --if i may add the fourth option where by women can accept men as they are and STILL come forward and make a difference rather than be in the stand and comment. Well thats the standard arguement accept us as we are . So one is not expected to change for the better.

Re: [ilugd] D00d3tt3z on ILUG-d?

2005-08-22 Thread Pankaj kaushal
hassath wrote: On Mon, 2005-08-22 at 12:25, Pankaj kaushal wrote: If there is a result-less discussion, maybe you could take more responsibility for it- you too are part of this list. What a typically privileged attitude - Oh, nothing comes out of these discussions! If you saw it as being in

Re: [ilugd] D00d3tt3z on ILUG-d?

2005-08-22 Thread Sandip Bhattacharya
On Monday, 22 Aug 2005 2:32 pm, Raj Mathur wrote: Fair enough. The attempt at humour was supposed to achieve the reverse of what you are reading it as, but that doesn't make a difference in this context. Actually Raj, now that I have re-read it, I agree with Hassath that it is *potentially*

Re: [ilugd] D00d3tt3z on ILUG-d?

2005-08-22 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sandip Bhattacharya wrote: Hassath, let us discuss this without getting bitter. I understand the frustation, and I do agree with AMS that atmosphere in the LUG meets is something that will make women (or children or any elderly people) uncomfortable. Sandip this bitterness - which you

Re: [ilugd] D00d3tt3z on ILUG-d?

2005-08-22 Thread hassath
On Mon, 2005-08-22 at 15:40, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well thats the standard arguement accept us as we are . So one is not expected to change for the better. men are abusive so let them be - accept them as they are men can harass women - accept that men can use crude and filthy

Re: [ilugd] D00d3tt3z on ILUG-d?

2005-08-22 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hassath On the other hand, perhaps they need to hear more of the other perspective... Regards, But it always helps to have the other around. In fact the more others the better it will get I hope ram ___ ilugd mailinglist --

Re: [ilugd] D00d3tt3z on ILUG-d?

2005-08-22 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2005-08-22 02:48:17 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: where by women can accept men as they are and STILL come forward and make a difference rather than be in the stand and comment. Which nicely removes all responsibility from you, and allows you to say, with a straight face, that the problem

Re: [ilugd] D00d3tt3z on ILUG-d?

2005-08-22 Thread Sandip Bhattacharya
On Monday, 22 Aug 2005 3:56 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sandip this bitterness - which you see - is not being able to get an important issue across. Check out the number of typical male mails As I said, I understand the reason behind the bitterness, but being bitter never helps in having a

Re: [ilugd] D00d3tt3z on ILUG-d?

2005-08-22 Thread Nitin Chandra
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nitin Chandra wrote: --if i may add the fourth option where by women can accept men as they are and STILL come forward and make a difference rather than be in the stand and comment. Well thats the standard arguement accept us as

Re: [ilugd] D00d3tt3z on ILUG-d?

2005-08-22 Thread hassath
On Mon, 2005-08-22 at 15:33, Sandip Bhattacharya wrote: On Monday, 22 Aug 2005 1:19 pm, hassath wrote: Hassath, let us discuss this without getting bitter. I understand the frustation, and I do agree with AMS that atmosphere in the LUG meets is something that will make women (or children or

Re: [ilugd] Linux LAN and BSNL Dataone

2005-08-22 Thread Shivkumar Jagannath
hi, the first thing that comes to mind is that if the bsnl adsl device is connected to the switch directly then it has to be a router. I believe bsnl is giving away huawei routers with some connections. if this is the case then you dont have to do anything other than setting both pcs to dhcp as

Re: [ilugd] D00d3tt3z on ILUG-d?

2005-08-22 Thread Raj Mathur
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ram == ramnarayan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ram [snip] Ram Again why somebody with experience - why make someone else Ram responsible for the clean up - is this clean up going to be Ram restricted to the list - thats one way . But

Re: [ilugd] Ad Blockers for Linux

2005-08-22 Thread Saurabh Nanda
If you are using Firefox then have a look at Adblock extenstion and load a filterset from Filterset.G (http://www.pierceive.com/) Thanks... it worked! Nandz. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org

Re: [ilugd] D00d3tt3z on ILUG-d?

2005-08-22 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
Just one quibble in isolation: At 2005-08-22 15:33:13 +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sigh. See how difficult being politically correct all the time is? Sandeep, it's not about being politically correct. At all. Ever. Everyone thinks political correctness is ridiculous, including women,

Re: [ilugd] D00d3tt3z on ILUG-d?

2005-08-22 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2005-08-22 03:54:17 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well I HAVE BEEN CATCALLED N WISTLED BY GROUP OF WOMEN UNKNOWN TO ME OH MY GOD! THOSE SHAMELESS HUSSIES! How *dare* they complain about oppression or exclusion?! Women just need to jump in and get the language barrier resolved during

Re: [ilugd] How to create a new linux user on the fly

2005-08-22 Thread Mithun Bhattacharya
Couple of things that can be done are as follows : 1. You use suexec and take let AMS have fun with his bots. 2. You do a sudo and have the same problem as above. In both cases you just hope there are no bugs in your implementation which would result in your system being hacked or made useless

[ilugd] Indexing the mailing lists

2005-08-22 Thread Mithun Bhattacharya
Hi, I was wondering whether there is any consious decission not to allow the mailing lists to be indexed by the search engines. There has been quite a few emails I would like to refer back to but I find them impossible to find on google atleast. I believe we have a pretty decent sized archive of

Re: [ilugd] Indexing the mailing lists

2005-08-22 Thread Raj Mathur
Mithun == Mithun Bhattacharya [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mithun Hi, I was wondering whether there is any consious Mithun decission not to allow the mailing lists to be indexed by Mithun the search engines. There has been quite a few emails I Mithun would like to refer back to but

Re: [ilugd] Indexing the mailing lists

2005-08-22 Thread Sandip Bhattacharya
On Monday, 22 Aug 2005 9:41 pm, Mithun Bhattacharya wrote: My only concern is that there is no easy way to search the mailing lists effectively. Google provide a effective search tool sourceforge doesnt. How about trying the gmane archive instead? - Sandip -- Sandip Bhattacharya *

Re: [ilugd] Indexing the mailing lists

2005-08-22 Thread Mithun Bhattacharya
--- Raj Mathur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They're indexed as far as I can make out: http://www.google.com/search?q=linux-india-help+raj+mathursourceid=mozilla-searchstart=0start=0ie=utf-8oe=utf-8client=firefoxrls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial Simple example

Re: [ilugd] [LIH]Indexing the mailing lists

2005-08-22 Thread Mithun Bhattacharya
--- Kumar Appaiah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Check this as well: http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi And how would anyone know about that if Google doesnt show the pages from there ? Try searching for mere paas ClusterKnoppix hai on google which should show this page

[ilugd] Fwd: Oryx Mailstore 0.97

2005-08-22 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
- Forwarded message from Abhijit Menon-Sen [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From: Abhijit Menon-Sen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Oryx Mailstore 0.97 Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2005 20:48:35 +0200 (CEST) Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] We

Re: [ilugd] D00d3tt3z on ILUG-d?

2005-08-22 Thread hassath
On Mon, 2005-08-22 at 16:10, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But it always helps to have the other around. In fact the more others the better it will get I hope ram Thanks Ram. At any rate, I am not interested in exchanging insults and accusations.(It's not a woman's way, honestly ;-)) Those

Re: [ilugd] D00d3tt3z on ILUG-d?

2005-08-22 Thread hassath
On Mon, 2005-08-22 at 15:55, Sandip Bhattacharya wrote: On Monday, 22 Aug 2005 2:32 pm, Raj Mathur wrote: Actually Raj, now that I have re-read it, I agree with Hassath that it is *potentially* offensive to women. While it might be perceived as humorous to men, it appears condescending to

Re: [ilugd] D00d3tt3z on ILUG-d - Solution suggestions

2005-08-22 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2005-08-22 10:30:29 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One thing which we can very clearly disregard is the possibility that the list is not interested. Right. Enough people are interested in solving the problem that rehashing the argument will just give the disinclined more rope to waste