Re: [ilugd] Belenix coming in July Issue of LFY

2008-06-26 Thread sumit singh
PROTECTED] To: ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org Subject: Re: [ilugd] Belenix coming in July Issue of LFY The jive thread takes time to update. Here is the list archive thread: http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/advocacy-discuss/2008-June/002735.html

Re: [ilugd] Belenix coming in July Issue of LFY

2008-06-25 Thread Angad Singh
Followed up on http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=64464tstart=0 [if anyone is still interested] Angad Singh http://blogs.sun.com/angad ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org

Re: [ilugd] Belenix coming in July Issue of LFY

2008-06-25 Thread Angad Singh
The jive thread takes time to update. Here is the list archive thread: http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/advocacy-discuss/2008-June/002735.html ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd

Re: [ilugd] Belenix coming in July Issue of LFY

2008-06-23 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On 23-Jun-08, at 2:31 AM, Sandip Bhattacharya wrote: Let me repeat - on the way there != already there. actually the main point of the discussion has been whether advocacy of opensolaris is to be permitted on this list. Obviously advocacy of anything proprietary is a no no. So what is the

Re: [ilugd] Belenix coming in July Issue of LFY

2008-06-23 Thread Sudev Barar
2008/6/23 Kenneth Gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 23-Jun-08, at 2:31 AM, Sandip Bhattacharya wrote: Let me repeat - on the way there != already there. actually the main point of the discussion has been whether advocacy of opensolaris is to be permitted on this list. Obviously advocacy of

Re: [ilugd] Belenix coming in July Issue of LFY

2008-06-23 Thread Vipul Mathur
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 2:31 AM, Sandip Bhattacharya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: These are the facts as of now according to the official sources of Opensolaris. a) CDDL is an OSI approved licensed. b) The majority of OpenSolaris code is released under CDDL

Re: [ilugd] Belenix coming in July Issue of LFY

2008-06-23 Thread Raj Mathur
On Monday 23 Jun 2008, Vipul Mathur wrote: [snip] So let me get this straight: (1) With Ubuntu, Debian, Fedora etc. I can install and run a 100% FOSS system without needing any non-free binaries. (2) For hardware etc that *requires* non-free binaries / blobs, I have the option of *not

Re: [ilugd] Belenix coming in July Issue of LFY

2008-06-23 Thread shirish
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Re: [ilugd] Belenix coming in July Issue of LFY

2008-06-22 Thread Sudhanwa Jogalekar
On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 7:24 AM, Raj Mathur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 22 Jun 2008, Angad Singh wrote: There's a difference between open source and FOSS as is evident and has been talked about a lot in the above discussion. Yes there is, and OpenSolaris is neither Open Source nor

Re: [ilugd] Belenix coming in July Issue of LFY

2008-06-22 Thread आशीष शुक्ल Ashish Shukla
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ,--[ On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 12:39:14AM +0530, Sudhanwa Jogalekar wrote: [snip] | Probably, this is similar to Ubuntu which contains proprietory | components for video and may be some other drivers. ( I am not Ubuntu | user and can not comment on

Re: [ilugd] Belenix coming in July Issue of LFY

2008-06-22 Thread Sandip Bhattacharya
+++ Sudhanwa Jogalekar [23/06/08 00:39 +0530]: On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 7:24 AM, Raj Mathur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 22 Jun 2008, Angad Singh wrote: There's a difference between open source and FOSS as is evident and has been talked about a lot in the above discussion. Yes there is,

Re: [ilugd] Belenix coming in July Issue of LFY

2008-06-21 Thread Angad Singh
Please follow up the discussion on the advocacy-cg to get a better answer (hope this is not against any rule): http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=64464tstart=0 Please take a note of this reply as well: http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=64465tstart=0

Re: [ilugd] Belenix coming in July Issue of LFY

2008-06-21 Thread Raj Mathur
On Saturday 21 Jun 2008, Angad Singh wrote: Please follow up the discussion on the advocacy-cg to get a better answer (hope this is not against any rule): http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=64464tstart=0 Please take a note of this reply as well:

Re: [ilugd] Belenix coming in July Issue of LFY

2008-06-21 Thread Angad Singh
On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 2:12 PM, Raj Mathur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 21 Jun 2008, Angad Singh wrote: Please follow up the discussion on the advocacy-cg to get a better answer (hope this is not against any rule): http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=64464tstart=0

Re: [ilugd] Belenix coming in July Issue of LFY

2008-06-21 Thread Sudhanwa Jogalekar
On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 2:12 PM, Raj Mathur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 21 Jun 2008, Angad Singh wrote: Please follow up the discussion on the advocacy-cg to get a better answer (hope this is not against any rule): http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=64464tstart=0

Re: [ilugd] Belenix coming in July Issue of LFY

2008-06-21 Thread Raj Mathur
On Saturday 21 Jun 2008, Angad Singh wrote: [snip] You did not tell me your views on this post: http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=64465tstart=0 Let me quote it here: In my understanding the answer is no. Please note that the Fedora, Ubuntu, OpenSuse, FreeBSD are not 100%

Re: [ilugd] Belenix coming in July Issue of LFY

2008-06-21 Thread Sandip Bhattacharya
+++ Sudhanwa Jogalekar [21/06/08 15:43 +0530]: Ubuntu also has some proprietory components but nobody says it is NON-FOSS and is promoted and accepted very well everywhere. Perhaps you did not completely understand what Raj said in the previous mail - all the Linux distros mentioned (Ubuntu,

Re: [ilugd] Belenix coming in July Issue of LFY

2008-06-21 Thread Angad Singh
Firstly, let me remind you that the original discussion was whether OpenSolaris is or not 'open source', since I had made that claim. I never said it was FOSS. And that you're saying it is not FOSS is a complete FUD tactic too. Secondly, the point remains that none of the considered FOSS

Re: [ilugd] Belenix coming in July Issue of LFY

2008-06-21 Thread Angad Singh
On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 12:16 AM, Sandip Bhattacharya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: +++ Sudhanwa Jogalekar [21/06/08 15:43 +0530]: Ubuntu also has some proprietory components but nobody says it is NON-FOSS and is promoted and accepted very well everywhere. Perhaps you did not completely understand

Re: [ilugd] Belenix coming in July Issue of LFY

2008-06-21 Thread Sandip Bhattacharya
+++ Angad Singh [22/06/08 01:13 +0530]: I agree. OpenSolaris, though being open source, is not FOSS, my point is just that why shud it not be discussed on this list if other non-FOSS distro's or other non-FOSS languages and much else is already discussed. Uh oh. Careful about your terminology:

Re: [ilugd] Belenix coming in July Issue of LFY

2008-06-21 Thread Angad Singh
On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 2:11 AM, Sandip Bhattacharya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: +++ Angad Singh [22/06/08 01:13 +0530]: I agree. OpenSolaris, though being open source, is not FOSS, my point is just that why shud it not be discussed on this list if other non-FOSS distro's or other non-FOSS

Re: [ilugd] Belenix coming in July Issue of LFY

2008-06-21 Thread Raj Mathur
On Sunday 22 Jun 2008, Angad Singh wrote: There's a difference between open source and FOSS as is evident and has been talked about a lot in the above discussion. Yes there is, and OpenSolaris is neither Open Source nor FOSS nor Free Software as of today. Please stop misleading the list.

Re: [ilugd] Belenix coming in July Issue of LFY

2008-06-21 Thread Sandip Bhattacharya
+++ Angad Singh [22/06/08 02:32 +0530]: There's a difference between open source and FOSS as is evident and has been talked about a lot in the above discussion. No. There is no confusion about this in the list. FOSS definition includes open source, and the whole discussion was whether

Re: [ilugd] Belenix coming in July Issue of LFY

2008-06-21 Thread Angad Singh
I'm not going to re-iterate anything just clearly mentioned in the entire discussion. If you just want to stick to your own conclusion even after it being proved wrong in the thread, then the list can decide who misled who. I'm glad its all archived. FWIW, I repeat, OpenSolaris is open source, its

Re: [ilugd] Belenix coming in July Issue of LFY

2008-06-21 Thread sumit singh
: Re: [ilugd] Belenix coming in July Issue of LFY +++ Angad Singh [22/06/08 02:32 +0530]: There's a difference between open source and FOSS as is evident and has been talked about a lot in the above discussion. No. There is no confusion about this in the list. FOSS definition includes open

Re: [ilugd] Belenix coming in July Issue of LFY

2008-06-20 Thread Angad Singh
On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 3:28 PM, Sandip Bhattacharya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: +++ Angad Singh [18/06/08 12:17 +0530]: Belenix is a LiveCD distribution of OpenSolaris created by the indian opensolaris community - bangalore opensolaris user group (BOSUG). Angad, What is the current

Re: [ilugd] Belenix coming in July Issue of LFY

2008-06-20 Thread Raj Mathur
On Friday 20 Jun 2008, Angad Singh wrote: [snip] OpenSolaris 2008.05 is 99% opensource except for a few drivers and userland tools. In all these cases the code is derived from third party sources and Sun does not own the rights to open these up. These will eventually be replaced with open

Re: [ilugd] Belenix coming in July Issue of LFY

2008-06-18 Thread Sandip Bhattacharya
+++ Angad Singh [18/06/08 12:17 +0530]: Belenix is a LiveCD distribution of OpenSolaris created by the indian opensolaris community - bangalore opensolaris user group (BOSUG). Angad, What is the current licensing state of Opensolaris? Is it entirely open sourced? This is from