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> From: Lukas Kahwe Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 2:15 PM
> To: Christopher Jones
> Cc: Pierre Joye; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; PHP Internals
> Subject: Re: [PDO] Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PDO] Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PDO] Re:
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Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote:
> However the point here is. There is a proposal on the table to change
> the php.net project to be able to bring in developers we do not know,
> for code they have not yet written, for specs they have not yet
> contributed. This is flipping our development process upsid
On 14.02.2008, at 22:19, Christopher Jones wrote:
Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote:
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> On 14.02.2008, at 22:07, Christopher Jones wrote:
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>> Pierre Joye wrote:
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>> > You (as group)
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>> We are individuals, all members of the mail lists.
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> Ok, could the Microsoft and IBM people on this lis
On 14.02.2008, at 23:06, Christopher Jones wrote:
I think most multi-person plans that impact an existing OSS project
have had some genesis in private discussions before being broadcast.
For PDO V2, this discussion was just really slow and intermittent.
Yeah, I am basically fine with this. I
Pierre Joye wrote:
> As we all agree that poor drivers are not welcome (and great drivers
> are...), the problem here is not about improving PHP database support
> (call it PDOv2 or DBDOv3) but to introduce CLA'ed areas in PHP, php
> core or PECL. It would be nice to dissociate the two and to be
Hi Chris,
On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 10:08 PM, Christopher Jones
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The code and strength of contributions and maintenance is the ultimate
> evidence of what can be trusted. Poor quality drivers, if they are
> distributed via a PECL-only distribution, will acquire their
Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote:
>
> On 14.02.2008, at 22:07, Christopher Jones wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Pierre Joye wrote:
>>
>> > You (as group)
>>
>> We are individuals, all members of the mail lists.
>
> Ok, could the Microsoft and IBM people on this list please speak up
> then? Could also one of the Oracl
On 14.02.2008, at 22:07, Christopher Jones wrote:
Pierre Joye wrote:
> You (as group)
We are individuals, all members of the mail lists.
Ok, could the Microsoft and IBM people on this list please speak up
then? Could also one of the Oracle internals guys speak up on this
list? That is
Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote:
> OSS is a collaborative process that is not about some manager
> allocating some ressources here and there. People usually make
> personal commitments here and maybe this is the bigger culture clash
> than the CLA.
Oracle contributes to a range of open source projects,
Pierre Joye wrote:
> You (as group)
We are individuals, all members of the mail lists.
> Tell us the names of these entities, companies or persons, who are
> going to contribute and what are actually their requirements.
The general list of data access providers has been given before and
isn'
Pierre Joye schrieb:
Tell us the names of these entities, companies or persons, who are
going to contribute and what are actually their requirements. What
will they bring (saying "expertise" is not something I can buy)? I
don't understand what is so hard to understand that it is a minimum to
get
On 14.02.2008, at 04:04, Steph Fox wrote:
Tell us the names of these entities, companies or persons, who are
going to contribute and what are actually their requirements. What
will they bring (saying "expertise" is not something I can buy)? I
don't understand what is so hard to understand that
Tell us the names of these entities, companies or persons, who are
going to contribute and what are actually their requirements. What
will they bring (saying "expertise" is not something I can buy)? I
don't understand what is so hard to understand that it is a minimum to
get before we can even dis
Hi Chris,
On Feb 14, 2008 3:30 AM, Christopher Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Pierre Joye wrote:
> > Hi Chris,
> >
> > On Feb 14, 2008 2:48 AM, Christopher Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >> Pierre Joye wrote:
> >> > The targets were these/this companies(y) pushing CLA in php.net
Pierre Joye wrote:
Hi Chris,
On Feb 14, 2008 2:48 AM, Christopher Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Pierre Joye wrote:
> The targets were these/this companies(y) pushing CLA in php.net when
> it is not necessary to contribute. It has been proven already since
> months on a nearly daily bas
Hi Chris,
On Feb 14, 2008 2:48 AM, Christopher Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Pierre Joye wrote:
> > The targets were these/this companies(y) pushing CLA in php.net when
> > it is not necessary to contribute. It has been proven already since
> > months on a nearly daily basis.
> >
> >
Pierre Joye wrote:
> The targets were these/this companies(y) pushing CLA in php.net when
> it is not necessary to contribute. It has been proven already since
> months on a nearly daily basis.
>
> For example:
> http://blogs.oracle.com/opal/discuss/msgReader$268
My understanding is that becaus
On Feb 2, 2008 3:14 PM, Wez Furlong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Pierre,
>
> At no point have I or anyone else said that the future of PDO depends
> on a CLA.
>
> --Wez.
No, you did not say it explicitally. However you said that many
vendors, experts or leaders will not contribute or will not supp
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