Le 04/04/2013 21:56, Manfredi, Albert E a écrit :
-Original Message- From: Alexandru Petrescu
[mailto:alexandru.petre...@gmail.com]
Some applications involving the use of VIN may have been
discussed.
One requirement may come from V2V communications when
infrastructure is not
Le 05/04/2013 07:41, Roger Jørgensen a écrit :
On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 3:13 AM, Michael Richardson
mcr+i...@sandelman.ca wrote: snip
If I can derive the VIN from the prefix, I agree that it helps
identify the vehicle, but not really. If any of this stuff is
going to be useful, there will
On 04/08/13 07:51, Alexandru Petrescu allegedly wrote:
Right. To avoid the particular privacy risk of reverse mapping IID-VIN,
one may use the output of a hash of the VIN. That would be ok to
respect privacy, yet it would disallow the applications which may need
this reverse mapping.
Le 08/04/2013 16:54, Scott Brim a écrit :
On 04/08/13 07:51, Alexandru Petrescu allegedly wrote:
Right. To avoid the particular privacy risk of reverse mapping
IID-VIN, one may use the output of a hash of the VIN. That would
be ok to respect privacy, yet it would disallow the applications
On 4/4/13 7:07 PM, Ted Lemon wrote:
On Apr 4, 2013, at 7:44 PM, Richard Roy dick...@alum.mit.edu wrote:
[RR] As I am sure you know, privacy is a cross-layer issue. Any layer that
compromises privacy, compromises it for the user/ITS station. That said,
FNTP/WSMP replace the IP layer with a
On Apr 7, 2013, at 11:07 AM, joel jaeggli joe...@bogus.com wrote:
So that possibly makes sense internally to the car, although possibly not.
It doesn't make a lot of sense to me between cars, except perhaps in the
most restricted applications. When you talk about capacity constrained RF
Hi,
On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 7:41 AM, Roger Jørgensen rog...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 3:13 AM, Michael Richardson
mcr+i...@sandelman.ca wrote:
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If I can derive the VIN from the prefix, I agree that it helps identify
the vehicle, but not really. If any of this stuff is
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On 04/03/13 21:13, Michael Richardson allegedly wrote:
If I can derive the VIN from the prefix, I agree that it helps
identify the vehicle, but not really. If any of this stuff is
going to be useful, there will already be a collision avoidance
Doug == Doug Barton do...@dougbarton.us writes:
Doug | If I can derive the VIN from the prefix, I agree that it helps
Doug | identify the vehicle, but not really.
Doug So if I know the VIN number of the vehicle I'm interested in, all I
Doug have to do is get on the network and
Ted == Ted Lemon ted.le...@nominum.com writes:
So, we have assumed that a 802.11p sniffer sitting in Times Square can
sniff the prefix used by passing vehicles. If I put another sniffer
outside Wrigley Field, I can do correlation... how does knowing the VIN
help me? I
Le 04/04/2013 03:39, Doug Barton a écrit :
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On 04/03/2013 06:13 PM, Michael Richardson wrote:
| So, we have assumed that a 802.11p sniffer sitting in Times Square
| can sniff the prefix used by passing vehicles. If I put another
| sniffer outside
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Hi,
On 04.04.2013 17:02, Michael Richardson wrote:
I think that imadali-its-vinipv6 is the wrong idea. If it is
useful for a manufacturer to derive a subnet-ID from a VIN, that's
fine, but I think it's a private matter. Let's write a BCP on how
Le 04/04/2013 03:18, Manfredi, Albert E a écrit :
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[mailto:ipv6-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Michael Richardson
If I can derive the VIN from the prefix, I agree that it helps
identify the vehicle, but not really. If any of this stuff
On Apr 4, 2013, at 1:51 PM, Richard Roy dick...@alum.mit.edu wrote:
Furthermore, anonymity concerns and the simultaneous morphing of all content
in these safety messages that could be used to infer behavior and violate
privacy are being addressed within the IEEE 1609.2 and ETSI TC ITS security
-Original Message-
From: Alexandru Petrescu [mailto:alexandru.petre...@gmail.com]
Some applications involving the use of VIN may have been discussed.
One requirement may come from V2V communications when infrastructure is
not available: how to know the IP address of the seen
On Apr 4, 2013, at 7:44 PM, Richard Roy dick...@alum.mit.edu wrote:
[RR] As I am sure you know, privacy is a cross-layer issue. Any layer that
compromises privacy, compromises it for the user/ITS station. That said,
FNTP/WSMP replace the IP layer with a different albeit null) networking
On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 3:13 AM, Michael Richardson
mcr+i...@sandelman.ca wrote:
snip
If I can derive the VIN from the prefix, I agree that it helps identify
the vehicle, but not really. If any of this stuff is going to be
useful, there will already be a collision avoidance protocol that will
On Apr 3, 2013, at 12:00 PM, Michael Richardson mcr+i...@sandelman.ca
wrote:
So, I have a question: how much privacy is actually contained in the
VIN or indexed by the VIN? Given that it's printed on the windshield.
Yes, it contains model, year and manufacturer of the car, but all of
that
Ted == Ted Lemon ted.le...@nominum.com writes:
So, I have a question: how much privacy is actually contained in the
VIN or indexed by the VIN? Given that it's printed on the windshield.
Yes, it contains model, year and manufacturer of the car, but all of
that information is
-Original Message-
From: ipv6-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:ipv6-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of
Michael Richardson
If I can derive the VIN from the prefix, I agree that it helps identify
the vehicle, but not really. If any of this stuff is going to be
useful, there will already be a
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On 04/03/2013 06:13 PM, Michael Richardson wrote:
| So, we have assumed that a 802.11p sniffer sitting in Times Square
| can sniff the prefix used by passing vehicles. If I put another
| sniffer outside Wrigley Field, I can do correlation... how
On Apr 3, 2013, at 9:13 PM, Michael Richardson mcr+i...@sandelman.ca wrote:
So, we have assumed that a 802.11p sniffer sitting in Times Square can
sniff the prefix used by passing vehicles. If I put another sniffer
outside Wrigley Field, I can do correlation... how does knowing the VIN
help
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