Re: [jdev] Are you broken?

2011-08-17 Thread Jonathan Schleifer
Am 14.04.2011 um 20:33 schrieb Dave Cridland: ;; ANSWER SECTION: _xmpp-server._tcp.dave.cridland.net. 86400 IN SRV 5 1 5269 peirce-6.dave.cridland.net. _xmpp-server._tcp.dave.cridland.net. 86400 IN SRV 9 1 5269 peirce-4.dave.cridland.net. Doing the same for clients would be interesting.

Re: [jdev] oAuth equivalent for for XMPP?

2010-12-12 Thread Jonathan Schleifer
What about XEP-0070? IIRC, it's not really limited to HTTP, you can just give any URL and use it to auth whatever you want. Plus, it's already implemented in clients. -- Jonathan PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ JDev mailing

Re: [jdev] The future of Jabber/XMPP?

2010-08-27 Thread Jonathan Schleifer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Am 27.08.2010 um 17:48 schrieb Mathias Ertl: To be fair, Stephen Pendleton claimed earlier in this thread there is a memory leak in Openfire. Jonathan Schleifer claimed that PEP is not supported in jabberd1 and jabberd2, the latter still

Re: [jdev] The future of Jabber/XMPP?

2010-08-27 Thread Jonathan Schleifer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Am 27.08.2010 um 18:58 schrieb Evgeniy Khramtsov: Of course, I'm not in a very comfortable position, because it is not so simple to count traffic, but nowadays I can't say if the overhead will be really great because of TLS-compressed links

Re: [jdev] The future of Jabber/XMPP?

2010-08-26 Thread Jonathan Schleifer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Am 10.08.2010 um 19:05 schrieb Tomasz Sterna: Dnia 2010-07-10, sob o godzinie 22:33 -0700, Matt Mason pisze: It could be that no updates = stability! This is the case with jabberd2. It reached stability and I do not touch it unless I have

Re: [jdev] The future of Jabber/XMPP?

2010-08-26 Thread Jonathan Schleifer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Am 26.08.2010 um 11:04 schrieb Dave Cridland: Servers not implementing these XEPs, and/or not updating their implementations as we learn more about the operational aspects, are going to be left behind to at least some degree. Which is

Re: [jdev] gmail + non-SASL

2010-02-24 Thread Jonathan Schleifer
Am 24.02.2010 um 17:43 schrieb Maciek Niedzielski: On 2010-02-24 17:27, Nathan Fritz wrote: Perhaps some client driven pep is in order for showing a user facing unique name for individual sessions. Based on current usage of resource, most probably description field from geoloc would be a

Re: [jdev] mod_purple.erl

2009-11-02 Thread Jonathan Schleifer
Am 04.10.2009 um 18:30 schrieb Alexey Nezhdanov: On Sunday 04 October 2009 20:22:18 Alexey Nezhdanov wrote: Hmm. That's quite interesting suggestion. ... Thank you for an idea. I'll look into it. Bad luck. I forgot that Miranda is win32-only. I target either for unix-only or cross-platform...

Re: [jdev] mod_purple.erl

2009-10-04 Thread Jonathan Schleifer
Alexey Nezhdanov snak...@gmail.com wrote: The purpose of mod_purple is to integrate libpurple.so with ejabberd - so that xmpp/icq/msn/yahoo/aim/whatever can be bridged. IOW - that is an alternetive project to py-t Hm, it's always good to have alternatives, however, I don't think libpurple

Re: [jdev] Regarding XMPP Voice Message Processing

2009-05-10 Thread Jonathan Schleifer
Am 10.05.2009 um 11:52 schrieb 周聪伟: maybe we can encode the voice data to Base64. This sounds horrible, especially for mobile use. It really is the worst case there! Base64 makes data about 1/3 bigger and with GPRS, every byte counts. You should instead have a bot which you can tell you

Re: [jdev] extending XMPP with custom XML data

2009-03-25 Thread Jonathan Schleifer
Am 25.03.2009 um 19:14 schrieb Will Gardner: Although xml storage gives me the impression that it just storing -- but I think it means sending and receiving as well. No, it doesn't. It's just to store arbitrary XML data on the server and receive it later. What you want it just XMPP core,

Re: [jdev] a vision

2009-03-12 Thread Jonathan Schleifer
Am 11.03.2009 um 19:43 schrieb Dirk Meyer: Right. It is all about marketing. It would help (not for my sister) if we easy MSN/AIM/ICQ integration (gateway) in the servers and an EASY way to provide the credentials. That makes switching painless for everything except Skype (You can still

Re: [jdev] Monthly XMPP Meeting

2009-03-12 Thread Jonathan Schleifer
Am 11.03.2009 um 21:19 schrieb Norman Rasmussen: It depends on if stpeter is on your roster with a subscription status of 'from' or 'both' or not. I was talking about both. rfc3921bis-07 section 4.6.2: summary: if the user is on your roster: then global can override directed, Which is a

Re: [jdev] a vision

2009-03-12 Thread Jonathan Schleifer
Am 12.03.2009 um 16:13 schrieb Peter Saint-Andre: Heh, that's what I've been suggesting for years. It's easy for those who don't run the services to make suggestions. Gateways are a royal pain in the ass, which is why we haven't run them at jabber.org since 2000 or 2001. I know that and I

Re: [jdev] a vision

2009-03-12 Thread Jonathan Schleifer
Am 12.03.2009 um 17:50 schrieb Dave Cridland: Well, I'm certainly not denying that any officially selected client would have a massive advantage, but I think all clients would benefit from attempting to be the chosen one, and as long as we were careful about reselecting the client on a regular

Re: [jdev] Monthly XMPP Meeting

2009-03-12 Thread Jonathan Schleifer
Am 12.03.2009 um 18:59 schrieb Peter Saint-Andre: On 3/10/09 1:00 AM, Nathan Fritz wrote: XMPP sucks because the namespaces are incredibly inconsistent Could you explain that more? I guess he's talking about jabber:iq:* vs. urn:xmpp:* vs. http://jabber.org/* -- Jonathan PGP.sig

Re: [jdev] Monthly XMPP Meeting

2009-03-11 Thread Jonathan Schleifer
Am 11.03.2009 um 16:50 schrieb Peter Saint-Andre: They are also how you join a MUC room. I suggest that we spend our time on more productive tasks than getting rid of directed presence or change presence subscriptions to IQs or whatever. Uhm, if I'm not totally wrong, presence

Re: [jdev] Monthly XMPP Meeting

2009-03-11 Thread Jonathan Schleifer
Am 11.03.2009 um 18:10 schrieb Dave Cridland: No, you're signalling your availability to stpeter. That availability is allowed to be different to your general availability, this is true. And because of the interaction between directed presence and the roster, things can get complicated.

Re: [jdev] Monthly XMPP Meeting

2009-03-10 Thread Jonathan Schleifer
I'd like to bring up a topic: Directed presences. IMO, as they are now, they are quite useless. One might even consider that a bug in the RFC :). -- Jonathan PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ JDev mailing list Forum:

Re: [jdev] Game accouncements and Jabber

2009-03-09 Thread Jonathan Schleifer
Am 09.03.2009 um 08:25 schrieb Yann Leboulanger: Maybe because Client dev don't play :) Maybe because it's hard to know whether User is playing (Games don't announce via D-Bus that it's running, like User Tune) I think the question was who implemented games and not why not ;). Anyway, Gajim

Re: [jdev] Default SOCKS5 proxy

2009-03-09 Thread Jonathan Schleifer
Am 09.03.2009 um 13:28 schrieb Guillaume Desmottes: I found the following public proxies which are currently working: proxy.netlab.cz (used by Gajim as default) and proxy.jabberfr.org. Those are very unreliable. proxy.jabber.org doesn't seem to work. It has been removed a while ago. I

Re: [jdev] thread implementation in messages

2008-12-15 Thread Jonathan Schleifer
Am 15.12.2008 um 10:51 schrieb Philippe Sultan: I was wondering if the thread element, used to identify conversations, is actually implemented in some XMPP clients, or if there are plans to implement it. Yes, it is, in Gajim. It's required due to the ESessions support. This seems to be a

Re: [jdev] Case sensitivity in JIDs

2008-12-13 Thread Jonathan Schleifer
Am 12.12.2008 um 23:00 schrieb Alexander Gnauck: gives you this output: te...@server.com/Resource te...@server.com/Resource Why is ß replaced with ss? AFAIK, ß is allowed in the username part of the JID and with the new IDN standard which is currently in discussion, it would be even

Re: [jdev] Presence - how often?

2008-12-11 Thread Jonathan Schleifer
Am 11.12.2008 um 09:06 schrieb Dave Cridland: (Which tends to break my connection when I'm on the mobile, but I found out how to turn it off). Ah, so I'm not the only one having this problem :). Maybe the timeout should be increased, like send a ping every 300 sec and wait for the reply

Re: [jdev] Presence - how often?

2008-12-11 Thread Jonathan Schleifer
Am 11.12.2008 um 13:52 schrieb Yann Leboulanger: In this case it's useless, as it's more or less the TCP timeout ... Nope, the TCP timeout is not the problem. If a TCP/IP packet gets into a timeout, it is resent. When I disable the pings, the connection doesn't get killed, it's slow, but

Re: [jdev] XMPP Summit

2008-12-10 Thread Jonathan Schleifer
Am 10.12.2008 um 20:11 schrieb Dirk Meyer: Great. A question to day 2: I guess the priority will be on XMPP as Skype replacement, so RTP over Jingle, ICE-UDP and friends. But we should also have a discussion about the future of Jingle for TCP-like requirements like file-transfer and e2e streams

Re: [jdev] Initial presence and contact capabilities

2008-12-04 Thread Jonathan Schleifer
Presences between servers are indeed a problem and very error-prone. Maybe we should have a XEP that allows better exchange of presence between server, that is when the s2s was just established? It often gives timeout and a XEP that would list all JIDs of users from server A for which

Re: [jdev] Initial presence and contact capabilities

2008-12-04 Thread Jonathan Schleifer
Am 04.12.2008 um 16:01 schrieb Tomasz Sterna: This is possible already without any additional XEP. Just push presence/ packets after an S2S connection is established. And it is implementable both sides. Your server could also pull all required presence states with presence-probes to users on

Re: [jdev] c/c++ libraries for xmpp client

2008-11-26 Thread Jonathan Schleifer
Am 26.11.2008 um 20:17 schrieb Mikael Hallendal: The segfault sound odd but the documentation could do with an update for 1.4 (XMPP 1.0 branch). I'll look into that, thanks for letting me know. No problem. Feel free to contact me if I should test again. The loudmoth API didn't look so

Re: [jdev] c/c++ libraries for xmpp client

2008-11-25 Thread Jonathan Schleifer
Am 25.11.2008 um 13:41 schrieb Mikael Hallendal: I'm the author of Loudmouth and just wanted if you could describe what made it not suited for your needs? When trying to connect to my ejabberd server with STARTTLS-required or alternatively SSL on port 5223, it would just segfault. And the

Re: [jdev] c/c++ libraries for xmpp client

2008-11-24 Thread Jonathan Schleifer
Am 24.11.2008 um 20:06 schrieb Patrick Logan: 4. C vs.C++ - I'd prefer a C code base, but C++ is ok - the more C-like the API, the better. I was looking for one in C, but couldn't find any that suited me and started my own, which is, due to other projects, stalled now. I will eventually

Re: [jdev] Worldwide event for the 10th birthday of XMPP

2008-11-17 Thread Jonathan Schleifer
Am 17.11.2008 um 17:17 schrieb Matthew Wild: For myself (and I'm sure others too), I'm already planning to come to Brussels in February, just a month later. I'm not quite sure I'd be able to make one in Paris also. If we focus our efforts on FOSDEM and the summit, then I think we'll end up

Re: [jdev] We are sure that lengthening will help you boost your intimate life!

2008-11-15 Thread Jonathan Schleifer
Forging a sender of jdev@jabber.org is enough to get through the subscription filter? oO Peter, maybe you need to have a look at that. -- Jonathan PGP.sig Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ JDev mailing list FAQ:

Re: [jdev] Talk To Jabber Server Using Sockets

2008-11-10 Thread Jonathan Schleifer
Am 10.11.2008 um 07:57 schrieb Jonathan Dickinson: Lol, careful about making statements like that on a public mailing list (although I can sympathise, the build scenario on Linux chased me back to Windows). Huh? For me, it was the other way around. Windows buildsystems chased me to

Re: [jdev] ./configure failed on windows with mingw

2008-11-07 Thread Jonathan Schleifer
Am 07.11.2008 um 12:09 schrieb Serge Fonville: I am trying to compile jabberd14 on windows using mingw and msys Is there any reason why someone would still use jabberd14, especially on Windows? -- Jonathan PGP.sig Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [jdev] Any quick/ simple c/c++ libraries/tutorials?

2008-11-01 Thread Jonathan Schleifer
ashiraz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: See here : http://www.jabberforum.org/showpost.php?p=4734postcount=5 the error file is at the bottom of post 5 by me called error.jpg The file can't be downloaded without an account - and I'm not going to create an account just for that. You should better

Re: [jdev] Any quick/ simple c/c++ libraries/tutorials?

2008-10-31 Thread Jonathan Schleifer
Am 31.10.2008 um 06:48 schrieb ashiraz: i have included the jpg with the error ... Uhm, can't see neither any attached files, nor an URL to a JPEG file. -- Jonathan PGP.sig Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ JDev mailing

Re: [jdev] FOSDEM 2009, any xmpp?

2008-10-17 Thread Jonathan Schleifer
Isn't the XMPP summit during the FOSDEM or even *at* the FOSDEM? -- Jonathan PGP.sig Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ JDev mailing list FAQ: http://www.jabber.org/discussion-lists/jdev-faq Forum:

Re: [jdev] Communicate between two client instances of the same ID

2008-09-03 Thread Jonathan Schleifer
Am 03.09.2008 um 00:36 schrieb JLIST: I think delivered and delivered once would be good enough for me. If not delivered for any reason, I'd like to be notified about it so that I'll resend it. But the ideal solution would be like yahoo or msn messenger which store undelivered messages and

Re: [jdev] Communicate between two client instances of the same ID

2008-09-03 Thread Jonathan Schleifer
Am 03.09.2008 um 00:36 schrieb Dave Cridland: Tsk. That won't guarantee delivery. You need that *and* XEP-0198 on every hop. And, of course, you need to be able to reconnect if your network connection does go down. Even that won't guarantee delivery. It will just notify you if something

Re: [jdev] Communicate between two client instances of the same ID

2008-09-03 Thread Jonathan Schleifer
Am 03.09.2008 um 05:08 schrieb Peter Saint-Andre: OK. So most IM users don't care very much. We're talking about human communication, not app-to-app data transfer of the kind that this JLIST person seems to be envisioning. Uhm, not true. I know of many (including me) who see this as the

Re: [jdev] Communicate between two client instances of the same ID

2008-09-03 Thread Jonathan Schleifer
Am 03.09.2008 um 18:38 schrieb Kevin Smith: Apologies - I jumped in on the middle of the thread and assumed it was the one that JS told me he was going to post on 184 being reliable delivery. I'll wait until he does post that to say these things again. Sorry, will take a while as I'm ill atm.

Re: [jdev] Communicate between two client instances of the same ID

2008-09-02 Thread Jonathan Schleifer
Am 02.09.2008 um 18:30 schrieb Pedro Melo: Thanks Pedro! Although message / doesn't get a reply, I suppose its delivery is still guaranteed by the transport? No, unless you use http://www.xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0079.html and AFAIK no server supports that. So if you need reliability, I would

Re: [jdev] jabber localization project?

2008-08-15 Thread Jonathan Schleifer
Am 15.08.2008 um 14:07 schrieb Zenon Kuder jr.: Particularly the moods and activites should be a) consistent among different clients with same language b) consistent among different languages. to avoid social problems :-). I really agree. Moods can be very different on translation, I noticed

Re: [jdev] jabber localization project?

2008-08-15 Thread Jonathan Schleifer
Peter Saint-Andre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, I don't. We should talk about mood translations then. We could use Gajim's current mood translations as a starting point (the German translation is quite good actually - I myself fixed the translation there, as some were translated very wrong. Took

Re: [jdev] jabber localization project?

2008-08-15 Thread Jonathan Schleifer
Sander Devrieze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyway, we collected Mood translations for these languages so far (not all languages are up to date; contributions are welcome! ;-) ): * Czech * German * Spanish * Italian * Korean * Dutch * Polish * Swedish For german, there were only about 20%

Re: [jdev] jabber localization project?

2008-08-15 Thread Jonathan Schleifer
Jonathan Schleifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: for German, French and Russian, maybe even know, but at least, I know s/know/more/ -- Jonathan signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ JDev mailing list FAQ: http://www.jabber.org/discussion-lists

[jdev] PyICQ-t branch / PyICQ-t fork?

2008-07-04 Thread Jonathan Schleifer
For my server webkeks.org, I was using pyICQ-t. Over the time, I developed a few patches to make it usable again. Since the developers of pyICQ-t showed no interested at all in bug reports or even patches, I just hacked my local version. As the patches grew, I decided to make them public. I

Re: [jdev] PyICQ-t branch / PyICQ-t fork?

2008-07-04 Thread Jonathan Schleifer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Try to contact some people on muc channel [EMAIL PROTECTED] for infos about pyicq-t. That channel is as dead as the Google Code project. Before I decided to put all my patches together and create a branch, I tried multiple times to get patches

Re: [jdev] PyICQ-t branch / PyICQ-t fork?

2008-07-04 Thread Jonathan Schleifer
Tomasz Sterna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do what I did with jabberd2. Do not fork, just pick up and go on. If you do a good job, your version would eventually become official. :-) What exactly do you mean by pick up? Working on a branch and hoping it will become 'official' someday? P.S. I'm

Re: [jdev] PyICQ-t branch / PyICQ-t fork?

2008-07-04 Thread Jonathan Schleifer
Daniel Henninger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's a shame you didn't contact me a couple of months ago when I was recruiting people to take it over. =) Either way, good luck with it! I created multiple tickets in the bug tracker, pasted multiple patches, joined the channel, only one person was

Re: [jdev] conversing with multiple users, but not MUC

2008-07-01 Thread Jonathan Schleifer
Gajim SVN (and the soon-coming 0.12 release) allows converting a chat to a groupchat. It's not that seamless atm, but we're working on that. This works just fine together with ejabberd 2.x. -- Jonathan signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___

Re: [jdev] [OTR-dev] ConnContext.username in XMPP

2008-06-22 Thread Jonathan Schleifer
Kjell Braden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now the local user receives the message and creates a context for [EMAIL PROTECTED]/resource. But since the local user does not know about any resources, the messages he sends have to be sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Not exactly. That's no problem at all.