Ok. I really want to start playing with OSX but haven't touched a mac in
years. Here is my question.
I don't want to pay 2500 for a laptop so the powerbook is out.
The iBooks are g3 and max out at approximately 640megs. Assuming that
eclipse will have a decent ide going for the mac could I do s
ments for Quartz Extreme as well.
If you only want a linux-style development box with a Mac interface, a
current ibook will probably work, but the interface will never be what you
call "snappy," or such is my impression.
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Subject: RE: [jug-discussion] new Mac questions
Jon,
I would avoid any g3 now.
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Cool I will. thanks
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From: Art Gramlich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 9:37 AM
To: Jon Thomas; ''[EMAIL PROTECTED]' '
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Subject: RE: [jug-discussion] new Mac questions
Jon,
three words
groups
google
well you know the rest
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From: Rick Hightower [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 1:28 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [jug-discussion] Speakers for August: Pizza, New York, JDJEdge,
XP Universe Re: [jug-discussion] EJB QL +
5th Erik is a karate master and kicks butt!
Just question his coding sometime and find out!
;-)
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From: Rick Hightower [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 4:53 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [jug-discussion] Erik, nepotism, Re: [jug-discussion] XDo
yeah I have yet to get eclipse (even the motif version) working on my new
powermac so I'm back to netbeans for awhile there. I still use Eclipse on
my windows box and I am consistently reminded what a great "product" Eclipse
is.
:-)
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From: Randolph S. Kahle [mailto:[EM
I have it working under Linux but you need to use the motif version.
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From: Thomas Hicks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 10:30 AM
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At 05:54 AM 6/24/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>Bo
I had no problem with netbeans and linux
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From: Rick Hightower [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 10:37 AM
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Thomas Hicks comes out of his corner and throws a looping overhead left.
yeah Art can even read his slashdot while he codes.
:-)
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From: Art Gramlich
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Sent: 7/18/02 11:28 AM
Subject: RE: [jug-discussion] Eclipse Stupidity Continues!
Actually around here the opinions are about 50/50 on which is better.
IntelliJ seems t
I think that second one would be a great 15 minute pres.
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From: Terence Rudkin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 3:10 PM
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Simon,
I have a couple of prese
Title: Message
College in 1970? I need to hang out with Ollie more.
Seems
like I'm the oldest in almost every group and I was conceived after a
Doors/Airplane concert.
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 9:27
A
Something cool I discovered yesterday.
When debugging if you want to look at all data for an instance highlight it
/ right click and choose inspect. I keep finding new things to love about
this ide.
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From: Ray Ramos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September
The way it works is simeple. As soon as you buy one a new line will come
out and yours will be absolete. But I do love my 800mhz g4, SINGLE
PROCESSOR (g)
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From: Warner Onstine [mailto:warner@;warneronstine.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 8:09 AM
To: [EMAIL PR
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From: "Jon Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 9:33 AM
Subject: RE: [jug-discussion] Mac question
> The way it works is simeple. As soon as you buy one a new line will come
> out and yours
on one of their comercials? :o)
Actually, I think that is how Jon got his. ;o)
Rick Hightower
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From: "Jon Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 9:33 AM
Subject: RE: [jug-discussion] Mac question
ercials? :o)
>
> Actually, I think that is how Jon got his. ;o)
>
> Rick Hightower
>
>
>
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> From: "Jon Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 9:33 AM
> Subject: RE: [jug-
Sorry
Simutek
Fort Lowell
Really good guys
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From: Jon Thomas [mailto:Jon.Thomas@;healthtrio.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 10:38 AM
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Subject: RE: [jug-discussion] Price to replace my current laptop Re: [jug-
discussion] Mac quest
I would add to your list.
Is it well documented?
Is it easy to configure?
Does it have community support? (more people that use it, more bugs get
found and fixed)
Can you get other support?
Can you find info on it and best practices with it (with books, articles,
etc.)?
Can you hire someone off th
I stayed at the Vegas Hilton but I heard Luxor had a great breakfast buffet
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From: Tim Colson [mailto:tcolson@;cisco.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2002 1:18 PM
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Subject: RE: [jug-discussion] dec. presentation recap
Simon -
> We still need a go
True but even then weblogic had a much better community and documentation
base.
6 of one...
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From: Richard Hightower [mailto:rhightower@;learningpatterns.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2002 3:25 PM
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Look into University of Phoenix. When I ran a group for Itasa we used a
space there
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From: Tim Colson [mailto:tcolson@;cisco.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2002 3:45 PM
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> Heat is difficult. It would t
http://www.wired.com/news/mac/0,2125,56409,00.html
Erik Hatcher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 2:15 PM
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: Re: [jug-discussion] ok this may be taking the whole mac
> thing
>> a little far.
>>
>> I dunno my PowerBook is way *sexy* :)
-discussion] ok this may be taking the whole mac thing
a little far.
Yea, who started this? ;-)>
Michael Oliver
AppsAsPeers LLC
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Tucson, AZ 85747
Phone:(520)574-1150
Fax:(520)844-1036
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From: Jon Thomas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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I think your trip to Yuma is probably more scalable than Resin and
infinitely better documented.
Let the flames begin.
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Is all this effort easier than writing it yourself?
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Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 12:26 PM
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Subject: RE: [jug-discussion] So which jar is it???
My thinking is to build an Eclipse Plugin that could walk
ght I would ask this august group of java guru'ssort
of the reason we are in this JUG is it not?
Michael Oliver
AppsAsPeers LLC
7391 S. Bullrider Ave.
Tucson, AZ 85747
Phone:(520)574-1150
Fax:(520)844-1036
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7;s a good idea? No kidding, what do you think?
Michael Oliver
AppsAsPeers LLC
7391 S. Bullrider Ave.
Tucson, AZ 85747
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I find it hard to imagine why I would ever want to use something like this
when there are so so many free and open alternatives.
Can someone give me an example where this would fit a need?
Jt.
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Eduardo's is very cool
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Hi everyone,
We've finally got several logos to choose from for the website logo.
You can vie
Hi Elizabeth. Remember me?
Jt.
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One vote for the JUG logo by Warner Onstine.
Elizabeth Anderson
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+1 for Can't reply for sh*t!
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From: Jon Thomas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 3:56 PM
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Hi Elizabeth. Remember me?
Jt.
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http://www.internalmemos.com/memos/memodetails.php?memo_id=1321
Disclaimer; the following is a smart ass comment. Please do not be offended
I am just a jerk.
If I ever read a document like this without any documentation of which tag
is being closed where I am coming after you Bill.
:-)
While you're at it that whacky indenting takes up lot of space.
Jt.
Unless of course you believe that huge corporations are not capable of
destroying the world, and it is wrong for a man to marry a turtle
On 11/15/04 4:08 PM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> That was brilliant!
> I think I am going to have this made into a plaquerd for me desk.
I would be really interested in many of these areas
Jt
On Apr 13, 2006, at 8:57 AM, Warner Onstine wrote:
i guess what i'm shooting for is, what topics are people interested
in doing? i've listed a few of mine, but feel free to chime in or
pipe up if what i've mentioned interests you.
-war
Nick
When you get home there will be $90k in your freezer. Now please
shut up.
:-)
On Jun 20, 2006, at 9:53 AM, Nick Lesiecki wrote:
The worst part is, this will be bad for business in the long run!
Just imagine if every new Friendster, MySpace, delicious, or what
have you had to sign ov
you may have just started the next religious war
On Jun 20, 2006, at 11:30 AM, Thomas Hicks wrote:
Hey Rick,
You raise an issue I've been looking at lately: the pros & cons
of various web app dev frameworks. I was motivated by my lack
of knowledge about what's out there and inspired by Matt Ra
ibernate project. I've been writing
Tapestry custom
components and helped them reconfigure the
Spring/Hibernate bits (they had
it configured a bit off).
BTW, We are looking for people with
JSF/Tapestry/Spring/Hibernate skills.
I am tired and busy.
-Original Message-
From: Jon Thomas
on the free front, Aqua Data Studio is really really good, but I
don't think its a graphical IDE like Access.
On Jul 27, 2006, at 5:17 PM, Tim Colson ((tcolson)) wrote:
MS Access will allow you to attach to any ODBC datasource
including Oracle and do some really fun stuff.
Yep, that is defini
just wanted to point out that Tim has a malformed non-terminated grin
in the previous message.
On Sep 19, 2006, at 2:03 PM, Tim Colson ((tcolson)) wrote:
Lol... am I the only one laughing that Nick sent this from his
yahoo.com
email?
Hojillion -- "number of hos you can fit in your car" ...
Hey I know a bunch of us have Macs that are becoming quite advanced
in years (mine is now over 2 years old). I have recently found that
I cannot justify getting the slick new Core Duo MacBookPro because my
powerbook has no obvious deficiencies.
I have aPBook G4 1.5 with 1 gb of ram and it ha
i wish we could get an opinion out of this group
On Sep 21, 2006, at 11:16 AM, josh zeidner wrote:
Yes, very entertaining.
Although the actual laws and guidelines that govern
these issues remain to be seen( in this thread ), I
do find that fostering an environment of informal
discussion e
What we all need is more people who take themselves too seriously.
This group is what it is. I'm sure that most of us have worked
together at some point and understand each others capacities and
interests and I have seen some great and merited discussions on this
list. I've also seen polit
Microsoft calls it Society 11 and its XML based
On Sep 21, 2006, at 1:21 PM, Art Gramlich wrote:
We're calling it Society 3.0 now.
On Sep 21, 2006, at 1:19 PM, josh zeidner wrote:
--- Michael Oliver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Ok since any sort of frivolity is frowned upon by
some, let's
Dude there is WAY more than one local genius on this list (and none
of them are me). But I must agree with Tom that what started out as
somewhat funny and interesting has ended up like a bad SNL skit that
just keeps going on and on
I retire
On Sep 21, 2006, at 1:48 PM, josh zeidner wrote
GoDady is cheap and very very easy.
Good UI
On Dec 19, 2006, at 3:33 PM, Warner Onstine wrote:
Hi Steven,
We have normally done the donation drive at the meeting, I'm
researching registrar's now for a cheaper solution (maybe
godaddy?), it currently costs 15/year from directnic where I have
Washington state university has a good distance MIS program as well.
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 23, 2007, at 6:32 PM, Craig Barber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hey All,
I'm going on the 3rd year of my full-time career in software
development now. Probably not unlike many others out there I
In terms of interviewing a college degree tells me alot more about
commitment level and staying power than it does about knowledge
level. Craig I'm in the same boat as you (but going on 15 years as a
SE). I really liked the WSU program but now that I'm consulting and
don't have tuition re
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