At 11:41 AM 11/30/00 +1100, Donovan Baarda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Quoting Mike Noyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> > At 09:39 AM 11/30/00 +1100, Donovan Baarda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > >Quoting Mike Noyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>[...]
> > >The only restriction would be that whatever gets c
At 22:36 29-11-2000 +0100, you wrote:
>Hello Pedro, Mike
> > I like the idea about separation data and style, but why XML? why use xml
> > when the final client (browser) will see html, and besides, editing a
> how-to
> > in xml?!?! we'd had to have either a standart for ourselves and an editor,
Ray Olszewski wrote:
> >combo CD and floppy together. That might work...for those who
> >don't have a burner, somebody (me?) can burn & sell cheaply. ;)
>
> How realistic is this as an option? My guess is that it works at a very
> small scale (a few CDs per month), or on large scale (whatever vol
> Everyone,
> Note: I'm not a developer, so the following comments may be out of line.
>
> I think we're drifting from the purpose LEAF was started for. I thought we
> agreed that we weren't going to create an embedded distribution. This
means
> we wouldn't create our own kernel patches, and we wo
> On Wed, 29 Nov 2000, you wrote:
> > I'm currently working on porting the initrd_archive patch to 2.4.
> so am i. allthough not so effectively obvious :)
> >
> > I want to expand the work I've done to get a CD booting LRP system.
With
> > the kernel bootstrapping modules from the initial ramdisk
Quoting Mike Noyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> At 09:39 AM 11/30/00 +1100, Donovan Baarda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >Quoting Mike Noyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
[...]
> >The only restriction would be that whatever gets checked in, is what
> >gets checked out... ie if someone checks in a document in
Quoting Mike Noyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
[...]
> I suggest the following structure for CVS:
>
> /eigerstein +
> +- ?
> /oxygen +
> +- ?
>
> /doc +
> +- devel_guide
> +- etc.
>
> /web +
> +- images
> +- devel_pages +
> + mhnoyes
>
At 04:31 PM 11/29/00 -0500, Rick Onanian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Mike Noyes wrote:
> > I think we're drifting from the purpose LEAF was started for. I
> > thought we agreed that we weren't going to create an embedded
> > distribution. This means we wouldn't create our own kernel patches,
> > a
At 09:39 AM 11/30/00 +1100, Donovan Baarda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Quoting Mike Noyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> > At 09:48 AM 11/29/00 +1100, Donovan Baarda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > >G'day all,
>[...]
> > >IMHO, everything should be put into CVS, including webpages and
> > >documentat
Quoting David Douthitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On 29 Nov 2000, at 9:48, Donovan Baarda wrote:
>
> > IMHO, everything should be put into CVS, including webpages and
> > documentation. CVS gives you a revision history and backup
> > archive. This is indespensible for any data that you want to keep
At 09:45 AM 11/30/00 +1100, Donovan Baarda wrote:
...
>I dunno about you guys, but I use etherboot to load the image off a tftp
server
>on the network. The only size restriction is RAM, and I can load images
>directly off the host where I build them.
Although this method hardly qualifies as "ub
Quoting Charles Steinkuehler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
[...]
> I'm currently working on porting the initrd_archive patch to 2.4.
>
> I want to expand the work I've done to get a CD booting LRP system.
> With
> the kernel bootstrapping modules from the initial ramdisk (which I
> already
> have working
I found something that would have come from LRP 2.9.7, and I'm not
sure if it's fixed in newer versions, but I thought I would mention
it.
Looking at /dev/console, under LRP 2.9.7 we would see:
[...]4 Nov 28 11:29 /dev/console -> tty0
Under Red Hat 5.2, I see:
[...] 5, 1 Oct 21 14:28 /
Quoting David Douthitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On 28 Nov 2000, at 17:56, Robert Depenbrock wrote:
>
> > I am at the moment porting my LRP to Glibc 2.1. I have a 8Meg
> > FlashDisk, so space is not my problem.
>
> It would be nice to see what your end results are.
>
> Is there an alternative me
Quoting Mike Noyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> At 09:48 AM 11/29/00 +1100, Donovan Baarda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >G'day all,
[...]
> >IMHO, everything should be put into CVS, including webpages and
> >documentation. CVS gives you a revision history and backup archive.
[...]
> While I agree wi
Mike Noyes wrote:
> Everyone,
> Note: I'm not a developer, so the following comments may be out of line.
Neither am I...but I'll give you my take on it.
> I think we're drifting from the purpose LEAF was started for. I thought we
> agreed that we weren't going to create an embedded distribution.
At 11:49 AM 11/29/00 -0800, Mike Noyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Charles and David should determine what is included in their sub
Correction:
directories. Developers can help with either LEAF release as they see
>fit, or create their ow
Hello Pedro, Mike
> I like the idea about separation data and style, but why XML? why use xml
> when the final client (browser) will see html, and besides, editing a how-to
> in xml?!?! we'd had to have either a standart for ourselves and an editor,
> or edit the text trought the xml tags.
>
>
Everyone,
Note: I'm not a developer, so the following comments may be out of line.
I think we're drifting from the purpose LEAF was started for. I thought we
agreed that we weren't going to create an embedded distribution. This means
we wouldn't create our own kernel patches, and we would remai
At 08:53 PM 11/29/00 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric Wolzak) wrote:
>Hello, i agree with the group that said, the pages should be as
>simple to load as possible. With a lot of advanced features, you
>have completely different views with a IE or Netscape or Opera
>I for example do use lynx only occa
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 7:53 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [Leaf-devel] Home Page entry
>
>
> Hello, i agree with the group that said, the pages should be as
> simple to load as possible.
Hello, i agree with the group that said, the pages should be as
simple to load as possible. With a lot of advanced features, you
have completely different views with a IE or Netscape or Opera
I for example do use lynx only occasional but stylesheet, javascript
and so on are always switched off.
Hello Charles, and all others
On Wed, 29 Nov 2000, you wrote:
> I'm currently working on porting the initrd_archive patch to 2.4.
so am i. allthough not so effectively obvious :)
>
> I want to expand the work I've done to get a CD booting LRP system. With
> the kernel bootstrapping modules fro
At 11:26 AM 11/29/00 -0500, Rick Onanian wrote:
...
>CDROM: Fine, but most don't have burners, and very inconvenient
>to re-burn everytime; suggestions for this have been to use a
>combo CD and floppy together. That might work...for those who
>don't have a burner, somebody (me?) can burn & sell ch
On 28 Nov 2000, at 11:20, Charles Steinkuehler wrote:
> One major issue is exactly how to structure things: i.e. are your
> heavily modified scripts a branch from 2.9.[7|8] or a new tree?
My scripts originated in 2.9.7; /linuxrc has almost no remains from
2.9.7 in it. The next most heavily m
David Douthitt wrote:
> Is there an alternative media we can use (other than floppy) that is
> ubiquitous enough and larger than floppy for a glibc 2.1 LEAF?
Well, there's the problem: None is ubiquitous enough.
> Perhaps CDROM is the ticket, eh? Or perhaps LS-120 disks or Zip
> Disks...
CDROM
On 29 Nov 2000, at 3:05, Pedro Barreto wrote:
> but... come on... do you really use lynx that once in a while??
Used it last week
> I don't know about you but I [haven't used] lynx for more than 2 years,
> there is always a better browser next pc ;)
As I said, I used Lynx just last week.
On 29 Nov 2000, at 9:48, Donovan Baarda wrote:
> IMHO, everything should be put into CVS, including webpages and
> documentation. CVS gives you a revision history and backup
> archive. This is indespensible for any data that you want to keep
> and/or modify (nearly all data :-).
I would agree w
At 03:32 PM 11/29/00 +, Pedro Barreto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>snip
> > Ok, I thought this is why we were submitting multiple home
> > pages. Different people have different ideas on page design. I
> > thought we were going to leave it up to the leaf community to decide
> > which one was be
> > I am at the moment porting my LRP to Glibc 2.1. I have a 8Meg
> > FlashDisk, so space is not my problem.
>
> It would be nice to see what your end results are.
>
> Is there an alternative media we can use (other than floppy) that is
> ubiquitous enough and larger than floppy for a glibc 2.1 LE
At 10:18 AM 11/29/00 -0600, David Douthitt wrote:
>On 28 Nov 2000, at 17:56, Robert Depenbrock wrote:
>
>> I am at the moment porting my LRP to Glibc 2.1. I have a 8Meg
>> FlashDisk, so space is not my problem.
>
>It would be nice to see what your end results are.
>
>Is there an alternative media
At 03:27 PM 11/29/00 +, Pedro Barreto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>css is some sort of extention to html. html tags are somehow limited, so
>what you do is define a css style and aplly it to the html tag, since css
>has plenty properties to modify html tags that arent present on the html
>ta
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I was going to help you with your site, but rick started doing one! now I
> can't help both! :)
I'm about satisfied with mine as a style demonstration. I might
try a couple other ideas I had, but I won't need much help (unless
you want to do that background... :-)
> >
> At 06:47 AM 11/29/00 -0800, Mike Noyes
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >At 02:16 PM 11/29/00 +, Pedro Barreto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>for reference check my site, http://pxb.ods.org, it's in
> Portuguese, but
> >>comment the style(aside for frames!), if it is down, it's
> the stupi
On 28 Nov 2000, at 17:56, Robert Depenbrock wrote:
> I am at the moment porting my LRP to Glibc 2.1. I have a 8Meg
> FlashDisk, so space is not my problem.
It would be nice to see what your end results are.
Is there an alternative media we can use (other than floppy) that is
ubiquitous enough
snip
> Ok, I thought this is why we were submitting multiple home
> pages. Different
> people have different ideas on page design. I thought we were
> going to
> leave it up to the leaf community to decide which one was best.
I was going to help you with your site, but rick started doing one!
At 06:47 AM 11/29/00 -0800, Mike Noyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>At 02:16 PM 11/29/00 +, Pedro Barreto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>for reference check my site, http://pxb.ods.org, it's in Portuguese, but
>>comment the style(aside for frames!), if it is down, it's the stupid IIS
>>that can
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > no, please! don't say that! my only consern was not 'visual
> design', but
> > funcional design, I'll try to explain: sometimes, when you
> design a page,
> > tables don't align with each other, paragraphs are not
> indented, etc.. and
> > thats when css has to be
At 02:16 PM 11/29/00 +, Pedro Barreto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>for reference check my site, http://pxb.ods.org, it's in Portuguese, but
>comment the style(aside for frames!), if it is down, it's the stupid IIS
>that can't serve for more than 1 day! I burned my redhat server's power
>supp
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> no, please! don't say that! my only consern was not 'visual design', but
> funcional design, I'll try to explain: sometimes, when you design a page,
> tables don't align with each other, paragraphs are not indented, etc.. and
> thats when css has to be used. thats the ki
At 08:39 AM 11/29/00 -0500, Rick Onanian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Pedro Barreto wrote:
> > great! the simpler the better, that's what I was talking about.
> >
> > but... come on... do you really use lynx that once in a while?? I
> > don't know about you but I don't use lynx for more than 2 year
> From: Rick Onanian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Pedro Barreto wrote:
> > great! the simpler the better, that's what I was talking about.
> >
> > but... come on... do you really use lynx that once in a
> while?? I don't
> > know about you but I don't use lynx for more than 2 years,
> there is
At 09:48 AM 11/29/00 +1100, Donovan Baarda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>G'day all,
>
>my 2c, from a lurker.
>
>Quoting Charles Steinkuehler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> > > > David, Do you agree with Charles? Should we put the scripts on
> > > > CVS, or do you have another idea?
> > >
> > > I'm not sur
Pedro Barreto wrote:
> great! the simpler the better, that's what I was talking about.
>
> but... come on... do you really use lynx that once in a while?? I don't
> know about you but I don't use lynx for more than 2 years, there is always
> a better browser next pc ;)
I had used lynx about 35 m
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