Re: [leaf-devel] shorewall documentation in configfiles

2011-06-08 Thread Erich Titl
es I commited yesterday > everything is as it was (at least it should be). :) > > Anyway, *I* always liked the well-documented configuration files in the early > releases (2.x), but get used myself to read the manpages instead. I personally like the documentation, it will never be as complete

Re: [leaf-devel] shorewall documentation in configfiles

2011-06-08 Thread KP Kirchdoerfer
Am Mittwoch, 8. Juni 2011, um 18:53:16 schrieb davidMbrooke: > On Sun, 2011-06-05 at 22:09 +0200, KP Kirchdoerfer wrote: > > Hello; > > > > > > in the beginning the shorewall configuration files had an exhaustive > > documentation including examples. > >

Re: [leaf-devel] shorewall documentation in configfiles

2011-06-08 Thread davidMbrooke
On Sun, 2011-06-05 at 22:09 +0200, KP Kirchdoerfer wrote: > Hello; > > > in the beginning the shorewall configuration files had an exhaustive > documentation including examples. > > Later the documentation has been removed to improve support size-constrained > distros

[leaf-devel] shorewall documentation in configfiles

2011-06-05 Thread KP Kirchdoerfer
Hello; in the beginning the shorewall configuration files had an exhaustive documentation including examples. Later the documentation has been removed to improve support size-constrained distros like LEAF, and was only available online or in the man-pages (which we never added to our

Re: [leaf-devel] Bering-uClibc4: User Documentation: Suggestions for Improvements ?

2010-09-26 Thread davidMbrooke
On Tue, 2010-09-21 at 19:24 +0100, davidMbrooke wrote: > On Tue, 2010-09-21 at 19:09 +0200, KP Kirchdoerfer wrote: > > Am Dienstag, 21. September 2010, 11:22:49 schrieb davidMbrooke: > > > On Mon, 2010-09-20 at 23:13 +0200, KP Kirchdoerfer wrote: > > > > Am Montag, 20. September 2010, 22:25:18 schr

Re: [leaf-devel] Bering-uClibc4: User Documentation: Suggestions for Improvements ?

2010-09-25 Thread Andrew
sciidoc" comes to mind. The first is > to > let the developer build buildenv (binutils), the latter to build tinyproxy. > > Possible it'll be good to patch makefiles/configure files to avoid building of documentation for this

Re: [leaf-devel] Bering-uClibc4: User Documentation: Suggestions for Improvements ?

2010-09-22 Thread KP Kirchdoerfer
Am Dienstag, 21. September 2010, 22:58:32 schrieb Erich Titl: > Hi KP > > on 21.09.2010 18:15, KP Kirchdoerfer wrote: > > Am Dienstag, 21. September 2010, 17:28:58 schrieb Erich Titl: > >> Hi > >> > >> at 20.09.2010 23:13, KP Kirchdoerfer wrote: > >>> Am Montag, 20. September 2010, 22:25:18 schri

Re: [leaf-devel] Bering-uClibc4: User Documentation: Suggestions for Improvements ?

2010-09-21 Thread Erich Titl
Hi KP on 21.09.2010 18:15, KP Kirchdoerfer wrote: > Am Dienstag, 21. September 2010, 17:28:58 schrieb Erich Titl: >> Hi >> >> at 20.09.2010 23:13, KP Kirchdoerfer wrote: >>> Am Montag, 20. September 2010, 22:25:18 schrieb davidMbrooke: Hi, I have just been working on "Bering-uClibc

Re: [leaf-devel] Bering-uClibc4: User Documentation: Suggestions for Improvements ?

2010-09-21 Thread davidMbrooke
On Tue, 2010-09-21 at 19:09 +0200, KP Kirchdoerfer wrote: > Am Dienstag, 21. September 2010, 11:22:49 schrieb davidMbrooke: > > On Mon, 2010-09-20 at 23:13 +0200, KP Kirchdoerfer wrote: > > > Am Montag, 20. September 2010, 22:25:18 schrieb davidMbrooke: > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > I have just been

Re: [leaf-devel] Bering-uClibc4: User Documentation: Suggestions for Improvements ?

2010-09-21 Thread KP Kirchdoerfer
Am Dienstag, 21. September 2010, 11:22:49 schrieb davidMbrooke: > On Mon, 2010-09-20 at 23:13 +0200, KP Kirchdoerfer wrote: > > Am Montag, 20. September 2010, 22:25:18 schrieb davidMbrooke: > > > Hi, > > > > > > I have just been working on "Bering-uClibc 4.x - Developer Guide" in > > > the Wiki at

Re: [leaf-devel] Bering-uClibc4: User Documentation: Suggestions for Improvements ?

2010-09-21 Thread KP Kirchdoerfer
Am Dienstag, 21. September 2010, 17:28:58 schrieb Erich Titl: > Hi > > at 20.09.2010 23:13, KP Kirchdoerfer wrote: > > Am Montag, 20. September 2010, 22:25:18 schrieb davidMbrooke: > >> Hi, > >> > >> I have just been working on "Bering-uClibc 4.x - Developer Guide" in the > >> Wiki at > >> https:

Re: [leaf-devel] Bering-uClibc4: User Documentation: Suggestions for Improvements ?

2010-09-21 Thread Erich Titl
Hi at 20.09.2010 23:13, KP Kirchdoerfer wrote: > Am Montag, 20. September 2010, 22:25:18 schrieb davidMbrooke: >> Hi, >> >> I have just been working on "Bering-uClibc 4.x - Developer Guide" in the >> Wiki at >> https://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/leaf/index.php?title=Bering-uClibc_4 >> .x_-_Dev

Re: [leaf-devel] Bering-uClibc4: User Documentation: Suggestions for Improvements ?

2010-09-21 Thread davidMbrooke
On Mon, 2010-09-20 at 23:13 +0200, KP Kirchdoerfer wrote: > Am Montag, 20. September 2010, 22:25:18 schrieb davidMbrooke: > > Hi, > > > > I have just been working on "Bering-uClibc 4.x - Developer Guide" in the > > Wiki at > > https://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/leaf/index.php?title=Bering-uCli

Re: [leaf-devel] Bering-uClibc4: User Documentation: Suggestions for Improvements ?

2010-09-20 Thread KP Kirchdoerfer
Am Montag, 20. September 2010, 22:25:18 schrieb davidMbrooke: > Hi, > > I have just been working on "Bering-uClibc 4.x - Developer Guide" in the > Wiki at > https://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/leaf/index.php?title=Bering-uClibc_4 > .x_-_Developer_Guide > > A couple of the pages are direct impo

Re: [leaf-devel] Bering-uClibc4: User Documentation: Suggestions for Improvements ?

2010-09-20 Thread davidMbrooke
; > On Sun, 2010-09-19 at 07:13 -0700, Mike Noyes wrote: > > On Sun, 2010-09-19 at 14:53 +0100, davidMbrooke wrote: > > > Thanks Mike & kp, > > > > > > I have been developing some ideas on the documentation structure which I > > > will upload o

Re: [leaf-devel] Bering-uClibc4: User Documentation: Suggestions for Improvements ?

2010-09-19 Thread davidMbrooke
quot;discussion" feature to develop ideas on how to structure the content. davidMbrooke On Sun, 2010-09-19 at 07:13 -0700, Mike Noyes wrote: > On Sun, 2010-09-19 at 14:53 +0100, davidMbrooke wrote: > > Thanks Mike & kp, > > > > I have been developing some ideas on

Re: [leaf-devel] Bering-uClibc4: User Documentation: Suggestions for Improvements ?

2010-09-19 Thread Mike Noyes
On Sun, 2010-09-19 at 14:53 +0100, davidMbrooke wrote: > Thanks Mike & kp, > > I have been developing some ideas on the documentation structure which I > will upload once I have edit permission to the Wiki. David, Done. The Mediawiki configuration changed a bit. * David

Re: [leaf-devel] Bering-uClibc4: User Documentation: Suggestions for Improvements ?

2010-09-19 Thread davidMbrooke
Thanks Mike & kp, I have been developing some ideas on the documentation structure which I will upload once I have edit permission to the Wiki. My preference is to keep something similar to the structure we get with the DocBook content (Books, Chapters etc.) and to separate Bering-uClibc

Re: [leaf-devel] Bering-uClibc4: User Documentation: Suggestions for Improvements ?

2010-09-19 Thread Mike Noyes
On Fri, 2010-09-17 at 00:24 +0200, KP Kirchdoerfer wrote: > Am Dienstag, 14. September 2010, 21:15:06 schrieb davidMbrooke: -snip- > > We will need some new user (and developer?) documentation for > > Bering-uClibc4, at least to reflect the differences from v3 and > > preferab

Re: [leaf-devel] Bering-uClibc4: User Documentation: Suggestions for Improvements ?

2010-09-16 Thread KP Kirchdoerfer
blems I'm using v4 in daily production for weeks without any major problems. > We will need some new user (and developer?) documentation for > Bering-uClibc4, at least to reflect the differences from v3 and > preferably to improve on what we have already. I would like to voluntee

Re: [leaf-devel] Bering-uClibc4: User Documentation: Suggestions for Improvements ?

2010-09-14 Thread Andrew
Shorewall 4.x and excellent IPv6 support are all > important, and the extra size is not a big problem. > > We will need some new user (and developer?) documentation for > Bering-uClibc4, at least to reflect the differences from v3 and > preferably to improve on what we have already. I

[leaf-devel] Bering-uClibc4: User Documentation: Suggestions for Improvements ?

2010-09-14 Thread davidMbrooke
extra size is not a big problem. We will need some new user (and developer?) documentation for Bering-uClibc4, at least to reflect the differences from v3 and preferably to improve on what we have already. I would like to volunteer to help with this. At the moment our master documentation source is

Re: [leaf-devel] Documentation in Shorewall Configuration Files

2006-11-25 Thread Mike Noyes
On Sat, 2006-11-25 at 08:56, Tom Eastep wrote: > Mike Noyes wrote: > > On Thu, 2006-11-23 at 08:48, Mike Noyes wrote: > >> On Thu, 2006-11-23 at 07:26, Eric Spakman wrote: > >>> I don't know, a router/firewall is not really a good platform to read > >>

Re: [leaf-devel] Documentation in Shorewall Configuration Files

2006-11-25 Thread Tom Eastep
Mike Noyes wrote: > On Thu, 2006-11-23 at 08:48, Mike Noyes wrote: >> On Thu, 2006-11-23 at 07:26, Eric Spakman wrote: >>> I don't know, a router/firewall is not really a good platform to read >>> documentation... Maybe Erich's suggestion will work, creating so

Re: [leaf-devel] Documentation in Shorewall Configuration Files

2006-11-23 Thread Erich Titl
Hi KP KP Kirchdoerfer wrote: > Am Donnerstag, 23. November 2006 16:16 schrieb Erich Titl: > > > But more important - there is no shorwall.lwp yet! And given the degree of complexity there may never be :-( > > >> I personally liked the documentation within t

Re: [leaf-devel] The now better shape of LEAF documentation

2006-11-23 Thread Mike Noyes
On Thu, 2006-11-23 at 12:21, KP Kirchdoerfer wrote: > Am Donnerstag, 23. November 2006 04:53 schrieb Greg Morgan: > > Mike Noyes wrote: > > > > > > >> I found one (new?) problem: > > > > And yet another problem. I was looking for your excellent introduction > > to cvs as a developer the other day

Re: [leaf-devel] Documentation in Shorewall Configuration Files

2006-11-23 Thread Charles Steinkuehler
KP Kirchdoerfer wrote: > Am Donnerstag, 23. November 2006 16:16 schrieb Erich Titl: > > Hi Erich; > >> Hi Folks >> >> let me please chime in >> >> Mike Noyes wrote: >> > On Thu, 2006-11-23 at 01:38, Eric Spakman wrote: >> >> Ok, but

Re: [leaf-devel] Documentation in Shorewall Configuration Files

2006-11-23 Thread KP Kirchdoerfer
Am Donnerstag, 23. November 2006 16:16 schrieb Erich Titl: Hi Erich; > Hi Folks > > let me please chime in > > Mike Noyes wrote: > > On Thu, 2006-11-23 at 01:38, Eric Spakman wrote: > >> Ok, but back to the documentation issue. BU will always use the latest > >

Re: [leaf-devel] Documentation in Shorewall Configuration Files

2006-11-23 Thread KP Kirchdoerfer
Am Donnerstag, 23. November 2006 19:42 schrieb Mike Noyes: > On Thu, 2006-11-23 at 08:48, Mike Noyes wrote: > > On Thu, 2006-11-23 at 07:26, Eric Spakman wrote: > > > I don't know, a router/firewall is not really a good platform to read > > > documentation... Ma

Re: [leaf-devel] The now better shape of LEAF documentation

2006-11-23 Thread KP Kirchdoerfer
Am Donnerstag, 23. November 2006 04:53 schrieb Greg Morgan: > Mike Noyes wrote: > > > >> I found one (new?) problem: > > And yet another problem. I was looking for your excellent introduction > to cvs as a developer the other day. Perhaps the SF interface changes > have broken all the doc manage

[leaf-devel] Documentation L10N

2006-11-23 Thread Mike Noyes
Everyone, Someone that has the time might take a look at XLIFF for LEAF documentation localization. http://transolution.python-hosting.com/ http://transolution.python-hosting.com/#xliff-filters https://open-language-tools.dev.java.net/ -- Mike Noyes http

Re: [leaf-devel] Documentation in Shorewall Configuration Files

2006-11-23 Thread Mike Noyes
On Thu, 2006-11-23 at 08:48, Mike Noyes wrote: > On Thu, 2006-11-23 at 07:26, Eric Spakman wrote: > > I don't know, a router/firewall is not really a good platform to read > > documentation... Maybe Erich's suggestion will work, creating some sort of > > webconf p

Re: [leaf-devel] Documentation in Shorewall Configuration Files

2006-11-23 Thread Mike Noyes
On Thu, 2006-11-23 at 07:26, Eric Spakman wrote: > Hi Mike, > > > > > Eric, > > Ah. We are in agreement then, or I think so. Do you still plan on a > > "shordoc" package? > > > I don't know, a router/firewall is not really a good platform to

Re: [leaf-devel] Documentation in Shorewall Configuration Files

2006-11-23 Thread Eric Spakman
Hi Mike, > > Eric, > Ah. We are in agreement then, or I think so. Do you still plan on a > "shordoc" package? > I don't know, a router/firewall is not really a good platform to read documentation... Maybe Erich's suggestion will work, creating some sort of webco

Re: [leaf-devel] Documentation in Shorewall Configuration Files

2006-11-23 Thread Erich Titl
Hi Folks let me please chime in Mike Noyes wrote: > On Thu, 2006-11-23 at 01:38, Eric Spakman wrote: >> Ok, but back to the documentation issue. BU will always use the latest >> stable shorewall version and even with an older version of BU it shouldn't >> be a big probl

Re: [leaf-devel] Documentation in Shorewall Configuration Files

2006-11-23 Thread Mike Noyes
On Thu, 2006-11-23 at 06:50, Eric Spakman wrote: > Hello Mike, > > > >> Ok, but back to the documentation issue. BU will always use the latest > >> stable shorewall version and even with an older version of BU it > >> shouldn't be a big problem to u

Re: [leaf-devel] Documentation in Shorewall Configuration Files

2006-11-23 Thread Eric Spakman
Hello Mike, > >> Ok, but back to the documentation issue. BU will always use the latest >> stable shorewall version and even with an older version of BU it >> shouldn't be a big problem to update to the latest shorewall (especially >> 3.0 >> onwards). Why du

Re: [leaf-devel] Documentation in Shorewall Configuration Files

2006-11-23 Thread Mike Noyes
On Thu, 2006-11-23 at 01:38, Eric Spakman wrote: > Ok, but back to the documentation issue. BU will always use the latest > stable shorewall version and even with an older version of BU it shouldn't > be a big problem to update to the latest shorewall (especially 3.0 > onwards).

Re: [leaf-devel] Documentation in Shorewall Configuration Files

2006-11-23 Thread Eric Spakman
Hi Paul, >> >>>> What troubles me more is that Tom updates the documentation on his >>>> site to represent the state of the art in shorewall v5, and the >>>> currently shipping versions of LEAF or BU are using shorewall v3, >>>> ou

Re: [leaf-devel] Documentation in Shorewall Configuration Files

2006-11-23 Thread Paul Traina
Eric Spakman wrote: > Hi Paul, > >>> What troubles me more is that Tom updates the documentation on his site >>> to represent the state of the art in shorewall v5, and the currently >>> shipping versions of LEAF or BU are using shorewall v3, our >>> d

Re: [leaf-devel] Documentation in Shorewall Configuration Files

2006-11-23 Thread Eric Spakman
Hi Paul, >> What troubles me more is that Tom updates the documentation on his site >> to represent the state of the art in shorewall v5, and the currently >> shipping versions of LEAF or BU are using shorewall v3, our >> documentation will not match the code we'

Re: [leaf-devel] The bad shape of LEAF documentation

2006-11-22 Thread Greg Morgan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mike Noyes wrote: >> I found one (new?) problem: And yet another problem. I was looking for your excellent introduction to cvs as a developer the other day. Perhaps the SF interface changes have broken all the doc manager stuff. For example, the

Re: [leaf-devel] Documentation in Shorewall Configuration Files

2006-11-22 Thread Mike Noyes
only possible if you're using DocBook XML > >>> to generate man pages, and the docbook xml source is > >>> available via uri. > >> The only problem with that idea that I can think of, is that it > >> vulnerable to Tom changing URLs or updating the d

Re: [leaf-devel] Documentation in Shorewall Configuration Files

2006-11-22 Thread Mike Noyes
ource is > > available via uri. > > The only problem with that idea that I can think of, is that it > vulnerable to Tom changing URLs or updating the documentation for > Shorewall while we have not updated or changed ours. Paul, A broken XInclude would fail validation. It shouldn

Re: [leaf-devel] Documentation in Shorewall Configuration Files

2006-11-22 Thread Paul Traina
that I can think of, is that it vulnerable to Tom changing URLs or updating the documentation for Shorewall while we have not updated or changed ours. Up to you. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Jo

Re: [leaf-devel] Documentation in Shorewall Configuration Files

2006-11-22 Thread Mike Noyes
On Wed, 2006-11-22 at 14:39, Mike Noyes wrote: > On Wed, 2006-11-22 at 09:10, Paul Traina wrote: > > Mike Noyes wrote: > > > On Mon, 2006-11-20 at 11:30, Mike Noyes wrote: > > >> We have a location in cvs for man pages, and output them daily for our > > >>

Re: [leaf-devel] Documentation in Shorewall Configuration Files

2006-11-22 Thread Mike Noyes
On Wed, 2006-11-22 at 09:09, Paul Traina wrote: > Mike Noyes wrote: > > On Mon, 2006-11-20 at 10:22, Tom Eastep wrote: > >> The documentation contained in Shorewall configuration files has always > >> presented an upgrade dilema for users: "Do I spend time merging

Re: [leaf-devel] Documentation in Shorewall Configuration Files

2006-11-22 Thread Mike Noyes
On Wed, 2006-11-22 at 09:10, Paul Traina wrote: > Mike Noyes wrote: > > On Mon, 2006-11-20 at 11:30, Mike Noyes wrote: > >> We have a location in cvs for man pages, and output them daily for our > >> documentation build. All someone needs to do is add them to our >

Re: [leaf-devel] The bad shape of LEAF documentation

2006-11-21 Thread KP Kirchdoerfer
Hi Mike; Am Montag, 20. November 2006 23:52 schrieb Mike Noyes: > On Fri, 2006-11-03 at 11:18, Mike Noyes wrote: > > On Fri, 2006-11-03 at 08:16, Mike Noyes wrote: > > > That's what I get fort trying something quick. The HOWTO and Reference > > > sections are missing from our TOC now. :-( > > > >

Re: [leaf-devel] The bad shape of LEAF documentation (long)

2006-11-04 Thread Mike Noyes
dations for sections, but they won't affect us. > I remember we did have a usable documentation some time ago without giving > every section an ID. We had the generic auto-generated docbook filenames for most chapters. The ones with ID attributes use(d) use.id.as.filenam

Re: [leaf-devel] The bad shape of LEAF documentation (long)

2006-11-04 Thread KP Kirchdoerfer
he LEAF "Bering" distribution ? > ID recommended on section: Why Bering ? > Writing bk01ch01s02.html for section > ID recommended on section: Feedback [deleted a very long list of similar entries] Mike, is adding an ID to every section _required_ or recommended when writ

Re: [leaf-devel] The bad shape of LEAF documentation

2006-11-03 Thread Mike Noyes
On Fri, 2006-11-03 at 08:16, Mike Noyes wrote: > On Fri, 2006-11-03 at 08:02, Mike Noyes wrote: > > On Fri, 2006-11-03 at 07:42, Mike Noyes wrote: > > > I modified /home/groups/l/le/leaf/admin/doc-build.sh, and added: > > > > > > --stringparam chunk.section.depth 0 \ > > > One more quic

Re: [leaf-devel] The bad shape of LEAF documentation

2006-11-03 Thread Mike Noyes
On Fri, 2006-11-03 at 08:06, KP Kirchdoerfer wrote: > Am Freitag, 3. November 2006 16:42 schrieb Mike Noyes: > > > > I modified /home/groups/l/le/leaf/admin/doc-build.sh, and added: > > > > --stringparam chunk.section.depth 0 \ > > --stringparam use.id.as.filename 1 \ > > > >

Re: [leaf-devel] The bad shape of LEAF documentation

2006-11-03 Thread Mike Noyes
On Fri, 2006-11-03 at 08:02, Mike Noyes wrote: > On Fri, 2006-11-03 at 07:42, Mike Noyes wrote: > > I modified /home/groups/l/le/leaf/admin/doc-build.sh, and added: > > > > --stringparam chunk.section.depth 0 \ > One more quick hack. > >--stringparam toc.section.depth 0 \ >

Re: [leaf-devel] The bad shape of LEAF documentation

2006-11-03 Thread KP Kirchdoerfer
Am Freitag, 3. November 2006 16:42 schrieb Mike Noyes: > On Fri, 2006-11-03 at 06:54, Mike Noyes wrote: > > On Thu, 2006-11-02 at 12:04, Mike Noyes wrote: > > > On Thu, 2006-11-02 at 11:34, KP Kirchdoerfer wrote: > > > > Am Donnerstag, 2. November 2006 15:24 schrieb Mike Noyes: > > > > > The main i

Re: [leaf-devel] The bad shape of LEAF documentation

2006-11-03 Thread Mike Noyes
On Fri, 2006-11-03 at 07:42, Mike Noyes wrote: > On Fri, 2006-11-03 at 06:54, Mike Noyes wrote: > > On Thu, 2006-11-02 at 12:04, Mike Noyes wrote: > > > On Thu, 2006-11-02 at 11:34, KP Kirchdoerfer wrote: > > > > Am Donnerstag, 2. November 2006 15:24 schrieb Mike Noyes: > > > > > The main issue is

Re: [leaf-devel] The bad shape of LEAF documentation

2006-11-03 Thread Mike Noyes
On Fri, 2006-11-03 at 06:54, Mike Noyes wrote: > On Thu, 2006-11-02 at 12:04, Mike Noyes wrote: > > On Thu, 2006-11-02 at 11:34, KP Kirchdoerfer wrote: > > > Am Donnerstag, 2. November 2006 15:24 schrieb Mike Noyes: > > > > The main issue is an inability to use.id.as.filename. Generic chunking > >

Re: [leaf-devel] The bad shape of LEAF documentation

2006-11-02 Thread Mike Noyes
write doc's (esp. if one's native > > > > language isn't english) - and a lot of people tried hard to provide > > > > guides and howto's to alleviate the usage of LEAF appliances and to > > > > teach new developers about the LEAF specifics. &

Re: [leaf-devel] The bad shape of LEAF documentation

2006-11-02 Thread KP Kirchdoerfer
x27;t english) - and a lot of people tried hard to provide > > > guides and howto's to alleviate the usage of LEAF appliances and to > > > teach new developers about the LEAF specifics. > > > But as the documentation page presents itself to the users t

Re: [leaf-devel] The bad shape of LEAF documentation

2006-11-02 Thread Mike Noyes
t; howto's > > to alleviate the usage of LEAF appliances and to teach new developers about > > the LEAF specifics. > > But as the documentation page presents itself to the users today, all of > > the > > work is nearly useless. Even die-hard LEAF users do have

Re: [leaf-devel] The bad shape of LEAF documentation

2006-11-02 Thread Mike Noyes
On Mon, 2006-10-16 at 11:25, KP Kirchdoerfer wrote: > Hello Mike; > > are you still around? KP, Yes. > I'm getting more and more annoyed by the fact that I'm waiting for more than > a > year to see the documentation pages in a readable state - see >

[leaf-devel] The bad shape of LEAF documentation

2006-10-16 Thread KP Kirchdoerfer
Hello Mike; are you still around? I'm getting more and more annoyed by the fact that I'm waiting for more than a year to see the documentation pages in a readable state - see http://leaf.sourceforge.net/doc/ It's really hard to design and write doc's (esp. if one'

[leaf-devel] Re: [leaf-user] Broken links to Bering documentation

2004-02-02 Thread Mike Noyes
On Mon, 2004-02-02 at 08:40, K.-P. KirchdÃrfer wrote: > They should be still at the same place; but it seems the URL is on another > server, which is unavailable from time to time (and pretty often, I agree). K.-P., Nope. Same server. It's just the main record on SF for our project. Main dom

[leaf-devel] [ leaf-Bugs-802154 ] (ucLibC v2B3) Update documentation of PPPOE

2003-09-08 Thread SourceForge.net
Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Submitted By: Brian K. Boonstra (brianboonstra) Assigned to: Jacques Nilo (jnilo) Summary: (ucLibC v2B3) Update documentation of PPPOE Initial Comment: I noticed that the instructions for PPPOE configuration in the user's guide still make referen

Re: [leaf-devel] Bering rc4 ppp documentation

2002-10-29 Thread Jacques Nilo
> Hi Jacques, > in bipack1.html you reference a > http://leaf.sf.net/devel/jnilo/manpages/pppdman.html > That is good, but the pppdman.html refers to > return to main contents > chat, chat, tcpdump, syslog.conf, tcpdump, pppdump and man2html > they all refer to localhost something and fail to find

[leaf-devel] Bering rc4 ppp documentation

2002-10-29 Thread Larry Platzek
Hi Jacques, in bipack1.html you reference a http://leaf.sf.net/devel/jnilo/manpages/pppdman.html That is good, but the pppdman.html refers to return to main contents chat, chat, tcpdump, syslog.conf, tcpdump, pppdump and man2html they all refer to localhost something and fail to find the desired fi

Re: [Leaf-devel] Converting Documentation to DocBook - progress report

2002-08-28 Thread Greg Morgan
Mike Noyes wrote: > Greg, > I've recommended DocBook XML for over a year. The move to 4.2 is > interesting, but I'd like to see other projects start using it first. LOL. So what you're telling me is that I finally have a clue as to what you were talking about. So DocBook XML 4.1, then? Greg Mo

Re: [Leaf-devel] Converting Documentation to DocBook - progressreport

2002-08-28 Thread Mike Noyes
ags sounds > like a nice Emacs feature, but I wouldn't choose the tool on its DTD > parsing alone. I do not believe you have to be flexible here. I > believe the problem LDP and Gnome documentation have is that they have > existed for some time. Hence, much of the work is writte

Re: [Leaf-devel] Converting Documentation to DocBook - progress report

2002-08-27 Thread Greg Morgan
SGML only shows valid tags at a particular point > > in the document. > > Maybe I should try Emacs again. I was thinking about this post the other day. The list of tags sounds like a nice Emacs feature, but I wouldn't choose the tool on its DTD parsing alone. I do not believe you

Re: [Leaf-devel] Converting Documentation to DocBook - progressreport

2002-08-22 Thread Mike Noyes
id, FreeBSD should have full support for DocBook XML. FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ Real nice flow chart for DocBook http://people.freebsd.org/~nik/sgmlxml.gif > > I prefer XEmacs+psgml. > > Problem with Emacs is 1) it takes up too much space; Agree

Re: [Leaf-devel] Converting Documentation to DocBook - progress report

2002-08-22 Thread Greg Morgan
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Re: [Leaf-devel] Converting Documentation to DocBook - progress report

2002-08-21 Thread David Douthitt
On Wed, Aug 21, 2002 at 11:28:28AM -0700, Mike Noyes wrote: > Recent versions of Abiword will read RTF and export to DocBook XML. Excellent! I've Abiword in several places (both FreeBSD and Linux I think). > > It sounds like the usual way is to edit DocBook using text editors > > like Emacs an

Re: [Leaf-devel] Converting Documentation to DocBook - progressreport

2002-08-21 Thread Mike Noyes
On Wed, 2002-08-21 at 08:23, David Douthitt wrote: > Then there's a RTF-to-DocBook converter - but it isn't free. David, Recent versions of Abiword will read RTF and export to DocBook XML. Gnome Office http://www.gnome.org/gnome-office/abiword.shtml > It sounds like the usual way is to edit Doc

Re: [Leaf-devel] Converting Documentation to DocBook - progressreport

2002-08-21 Thread Mike Noyes
okPackages Here is a link containing a list of XML editors. http://www.xmlsoftware.com/editors.html XML parsers http://www.xmlsoftware.com/parsers.html XSLT processors http://www.xmlsoftware.com/xslt.html Please review my earlier post for DTD, XSL style sheet, and authoring template recommendations.

Re: [Leaf-devel] Converting Documentation to DocBook - progressreport

2002-08-21 Thread Mike Noyes
On Wed, 2002-08-21 at 08:23, David Douthitt wrote: > On Wed, Aug 21, 2002 at 03:27:30PM +0100, Julian Church wrote: > > >I see that DocBook (v3.1) exists for Red Hat 6.2; will this > > >be sufficient? Do I have to upgrade? Will new versions work > > >on Red Hat 6.2? > > > > I'm sure they will -

Re: [Leaf-devel] Converting Documentation to DocBook - progress report

2002-08-21 Thread David Douthitt
On Wed, Aug 21, 2002 at 03:27:30PM +0100, Julian Church wrote: > I've been working on converting your Developers' Guide > to Docbook for a while now. I knew that; the reason I brought this up was that I've plans to overhaul the document and to rework it, and I wanted to follow the standard LEAF

Re: [Leaf-devel] Converting Documentation to DocBook - progressreport

2002-08-21 Thread Mike Noyes
On Wed, 2002-08-21 at 07:27, Julian Church wrote: > Hi David > > At 08:48 21/08/02 -0500, David Douthitt wrote: > >I've decided I need to revisit the LEAF Developer's Guide, > >and want to know what I need to do to make it ready for > >this "DocBook" format. > > I've been working on converting y

Re: [Leaf-devel] Converting Documentation to DocBook - progress report

2002-08-21 Thread Julian Church
Hi David At 08:48 21/08/02 -0500, David Douthitt wrote: >I've decided I need to revisit the LEAF Developer's Guide, >and want to know what I need to do to make it ready for >this "DocBook" format. I've been working on converting your Developers' Guide to Docbook for a while now. I've got a Doc

Re: [Leaf-devel] Converting Documentation to DocBook - progressreport

2002-08-21 Thread Mike Noyes
you. [Leaf-devel] Converting Documentation to DocBook - progress report http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg05220.html > On Thu, Aug 15, 2002 at 11:55:30PM -0700, Greg Morgan wrote: > > Mike Noyes wrote quoting Julian Church: > > > > The normal

Re: [Leaf-devel] Converting Documentation to DocBook - progress report

2002-08-21 Thread David Douthitt
I've decided I need to revisit the LEAF Developer's Guide, and want to know what I need to do to make it ready for this "DocBook" format. On Thu, Aug 15, 2002 at 11:55:30PM -0700, Greg Morgan wrote: > Mike Noyes wrote quoting Julian Church: > > The normal formats are: html, pdf, plain text, and

Re: [Leaf-devel] Converting Documentation to DocBook - progress report

2002-08-20 Thread Greg Morgan
Mike Noyes wrote: >The two missing graphics are > now in our CVS repository, and they successfully exported this morning. Mike, thanks for your continued hard work keeping the site afloat. Greg Morgan --- This sf.net email is sponsored by: O

Re: [Leaf-devel] Converting Documentation to DocBook - progress report

2002-08-18 Thread Mike Noyes
On Sat, 2002-08-17 at 02:01, Greg Morgan wrote: > The Richard J. Lohman guide > "Creating a Firewall Using EigerStein" is missing several images. Greg, Thanks for bringing this to my attention. The two missing graphics are now in our CVS repository, and they successfully exported this morning. h

Re: [Leaf-devel] Converting Documentation to DocBook - progress report

2002-08-17 Thread Mike Noyes
On Sat, 2002-08-17 at 02:01, Greg Morgan wrote: > Mike Noyes wrote: > > daily.sh crontab shell script (feedback on this script is appreciated) > > http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/leaf/devel/mhnoyes/sf-admin/ > > I didn't see anything wrong with daily.sh. Greg, It ran without incid

Re: [Leaf-devel] Converting Documentation to DocBook - progress report

2002-08-17 Thread Greg Morgan
Mike Noyes wrote: > Greg & Julian, > Here is what we're doing currently for our guides. > > DocBook XML source is generated and placed in our cvs repository. > Generated xhtml, plain text, pdf, and PostScript versions are placed > in cvs with the DocBook XML source. They are then expo

Re: [Leaf-devel] Converting Documentation to DocBook - progressreport

2002-08-16 Thread Mike Noyes
On Fri, 2002-08-16 at 01:25, Julian Church wrote: > At 07:47 15/08/02 -0700, Mike Noyes wrote: > >LDP Author Guide > >http://tldp.org/LDP/LDP-Author-Guide/index.html > > Many thanks for that - it's got a lot of info, and links to loads more. I > was aware of th

Re: [Leaf-devel] Converting Documentation to DocBook - progressreport

2002-08-16 Thread Mike Noyes
On Fri, 2002-08-16 at 06:46, Mike Noyes wrote: > daily.sh crontab shell script (feedback on this script is appreciated) > http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/leaf/devel/mhnoyes/sf-admin/ Everyone, I just added a crontab entry for daily.sh. It will run daily at 1:15 AM PST/PDT. -- Mik

Re: [Leaf-devel] Converting Documentation to DocBook - progressreport

2002-08-16 Thread Mike Noyes
On Fri, 2002-08-16 at 02:11, Julian Church wrote: > At 23:55 15/08/02 -0700, Greg Morgan wrote: > >Perhaps then the question is how can documents be checked in via cvs, > >then deployed on the leaf site? I don't know all that you can do with > >SF, but is this possible? > > Does anyone know what

Re: [Leaf-devel] Converting Documentation to DocBook - progress report

2002-08-16 Thread Julian Church
eletal docbook >file. Suitable skeletal files are available at the linux documentation project http://www.tldp.org/authors/index.html#resources - there's a lot of other useful stuff here (Thanks Mike Noyes for alerting me to this area of tldp). >Perhaps then the question is how can documen

Re: [Leaf-devel] Converting Documentation to DocBook - progress report

2002-08-16 Thread Julian Church
e/index.html Many thanks for that - it's got a lot of info, and links to loads more. I was aware of the Linux Documentation Project, but didn't realise how well organised it was. It's nice to have a framework like that to work in. cheers Juli

Re: [Leaf-devel] Converting Documentation to DocBook - progress report

2002-08-15 Thread Greg Morgan
Mike Noyes wrote quoting Julian Church: > Date: 15 Aug 2002 07:47:13 -0700 > > On Fri, 2002-07-12 at 08:10, Julian Church wrote: > > I've a few questions. > > > 2. The DocBook documents will need converting to other more usable formats > > for distribution/posting on the site. I know XML is su

Re: [Leaf-devel] Converting Documentation to DocBook - progressreport

2002-08-15 Thread Mike Noyes
On Fri, 2002-07-12 at 08:10, Julian Church wrote: > I've a few questions. Julian, I apologize for the severe lag in responding to your post. > 1. What should I do about version numbering? I've been careful not to > change the text in any substantial way so going all the way from 1.2 to 1.3 >

[Leaf-devel] Converting Documentation to DocBook - progress report

2002-07-12 Thread Julian Church
Hi All I've been getting on quite nicely with converting David Douhitt's developers guide to DocBook XML - almost finished now. I hit a few snags getting a decent XML/Docbook development environment together. I'll spare you the long story - suffice to say this has taught me as much about Mac

Re: [Leaf-devel] Some small modifications to upgrade to libc 2.2 documentation

2002-06-26 Thread JamesSturdevant
At 01:50 PM 6/26/02 +0200, Eric Wolzak wrote: > >To answer a few questions. >The lrpkg.back.script is name dependent. >With the usual *.list etc is a include and exclude file list created. >Before the create and compress the tar file command is executed, there is a statement >like >If the name

Re: [Leaf-devel] Some small modifications to upgrade to libc 2.2 documentation

2002-06-26 Thread Eric Wolzak
Hello SImon, Kim and others on this thread. First of all sorry for the late response of the "bering crew". Jacques is out of town for the rest of this week, and I just ended a 24 Hr shift , so i wasn't able to read the mails. To answer a few questions. The lrpkg.back.script is name dependent. W

Re: [Leaf-devel] Some small modifications to upgrade to libc 2.2 documentation

2002-06-24 Thread Kim Oppalfens
> > Was this on a RC3 or a RC2 machine? > > If it was on RC3 can somebody of the bering crew confirm that > > something changed in the backupscript the fix the problem I had > > with backing up under RC2. > >Both - but in both cases you have to tell lrcfg.back.initrd the size of >the initrd to ma

Re: [Leaf-devel] Some small modifications to upgrade to libc 2.2 documentation

2002-06-24 Thread Simon Blake
Hi Kim On Mon, Jun 24, 2002 at 03:05:38PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > Aanhalen Simon Blake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > Really? It worked for me - the packages out the far end were perfectly > > backupable. I fail to see what temporary name you give your image > > while > > you populate

Re: [Leaf-devel] Some small modifications to upgrade to libc 2.2 documentation

2002-06-24 Thread kimoppalfens
Aanhalen Simon Blake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Really? It worked for me - the packages out the far end were perfectly > backupable. I fail to see what temporary name you give your image > while > you populate it important - what is crucial is that at the end of the > process, the image must be g

Re: [Leaf-devel] Some small modifications to upgrade to libc 2.2 documentation

2002-06-24 Thread Simon Blake
Hi Kim On Mon, Jun 24, 2002 at 08:05:42AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > Aanhalen Simon Blake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > > > > We will create an initrd.lrp package that can be backed up without a > > glitch. > > > > No, it won't - there's a gzip process that has to be gone through in >

Re: [Leaf-devel] Some small modifications to upgrade to libc 2.2 documentation

2002-06-23 Thread kimoppalfens
Oops forgot to include the list sorry. This way there will be a record in the mail archives Aanhalen Simon Blake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: It looks nice, but as mentioned in the previous mail it just needs the changed filename. A replace all initrd-new.img to initrd.lrp will fix everything. I will

Re: [Leaf-devel] Some small modifications to upgrade to libc 2.2 documentation

2002-06-23 Thread kimoppalfens
Aanhalen Simon Blake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: It looks nice, but as mentioned in the previous mail it just needs the changed filename. A replace all initrd-new.img to initrd.lrp will fix everything. I will quote a mail from Eric Wolzak member of the Bering crew which apparently never made it to t

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