goals, etc?
Cheers!
Sean
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From: Nigel Sykes <ni...@sykesonline.com>
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Sent: Sun, May 7, 2017 10:31 am
Subject: Re: [LU] LU: Another poor end of season result.
It's been a remarkably bad turn of events, in the last few we
Subject: Re: [LU] LU: Another poor end of season result.
It's been a remarkably bad turn of events, in the last few weeks. I know that
we weren't exactly world-beaters beforehand, and that we had quite a few "how
on earth did we win that?" games, but to go from a team with f
as?
Nigel
(the Dublin one).
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From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Graham
Thirkill
Sent: 07 May 2017 15:10
To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: [LU] LU: Another poor end of season result.
LU: WTF FFS Whatever has gone so wrong at Elland Road
They
LU: WTF FFS Whatever has gone so wrong at Elland Road
They can’t even beat a relegated side. It’s to be hoped they hang
on to the few good players they have, or next season they will be
in the third division. If it hadn’t been for the goal scoring of the lad
Chris Wood, they would be with
Green , Irish international from Derby
Central midfielder just back from the Euros
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Now that is a good signing.
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On 20 Jun 2012, at 16:09, Guy Bonello bone...@maltanet.mt wrote:
Green , Irish international from Derby
Central midfielder just back from the Euros
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I know nothing about this guy, any info?
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Now
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Now that is a good signing.
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On 20 Jun 2012, at 16:09, Guy
Subject: Re: [LU] LU - another one in
You might remember him from our final loss to Donny, blonde hair, bossed
midfield.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Green_(footballer_born_1983)#section_6
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On 20 Jun 2012, at 18:08, Nicholas Armit arm...@yahoo.com wrote:
I know
, 2012 2:43 PM
Subject: Re: [LU] LU - another one in
The losses started too blur together at the end there
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Subject: Re: [LU] LU: Another
Not really a question of his being a Leeds fan, more a question of (a) did we
want him anyway and (b) if we did, would we
The correlation of wages and turnover isn't really relevant.
No, but the correlation between wages and success on the pitch is.
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Because of what he says in his programme notes and all his interviews. Because
we don't sign anyone who's any good and because our players keep walking.
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On 28 Jul 2011, at 23:33, Matt Anderson m...@leeds-united.net wrote:
How do we know he isn't? Snodgrass hasn't gone. He
Is it really? I would have thought we had one of the bigger wage bills in the
championship when we were relegated.
Andy C
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On 29 Jul 2011, at 08:11, Sean Emmott s...@canofworms.me.uk wrote:
The correlation of wages and turnover isn't really relevant.
No, but the
On 29/07/2011 08:05, Richard Walker wrote:
I can produly announce that as I drove past the ground today the
windows have gone up in the new Executive Boxes
Thank God for that, how many times have I said that until we get some
decent executive boxes we'll never be a big club again.
East
[Club's wage bill correlates to success]
Is it really? I would have thought we had one of the bigger wage bills in
the championship when we were relegated.
Andy C
Overall, the size of a club's wage bill is the best predictor of success.
Obviously there are exceptions, but that doesn't alter
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Sent: 29 July 2011 08:36
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Subject: Re: [LU] LU: Another
Ha ha - as if. We're a 'meal ticket' - presumably THAT's why we've had a net
loss of first team
On 29/07/2011 09:26, Sean Emmott wrote:
Overall, the size of a club's wage bill is the best predictor of success.
Obviously there are exceptions, but that doesn't alter the fact that there
is a correlation
Correct Sean, as described in the Gentlemen Prefer Blondes chapter of
Why England Lose
??
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Sent: 29 July 2011 08:38
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Subject: Re: [LU] LU: Another
Because of what he says in his programme notes and all his interviews.
Because we don't sign anyone
Tell that to Boro, cardiff, Hull, Sheff Utd etc even preston were
paying £15k a week to a keeper!
On 29 Jul 2011, at 08:11, Sean Emmott s...@canofworms.me.uk wrote:
The correlation of wages and turnover isn't really relevant.
No, but the correlation between wages and success on the
Tell that to Boro, cardiff, Hull, Sheff Utd etc even preston were
paying £15k a week to a keeper!
See Betty's last post.
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Subject: Re: [LU] LU: Another
Ha ha - as if. We're a 'meal ticket' - presumably THAT's why we've had a net
loss of first team players despite our position as biggest club in the
league.
I'm presuming it's not your money being trousered?
The 'Norwich model' was based
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Subject: Re: [LU] LU: Another
Because of what he says in his programme notes and all his interviews.
Because we don't sign anyone who's any
Another fact is that we haven't replaced these players with like or
better. In other words, we're going backwards.
Killkenny - Nunez?
Johnson - Brown?
Schmichael - Lonergan?
Kisnobby back to fitness, Aidy White looking like he'll be regular, lees in
1st team squad, various unnamed mysterious
Nunez was already at the club. He wasn't rated above the walkees by Grayson or
he wouldve played more than the 5 mins he got.
Brown like or better than Johnson? Really?
I actually think lonergerereran is a decent signing but is he better than
schmeical? I don't think any of us know, I'd say
: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 12:16:04
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Subject: Re: [LU] LU: Another
We had the same though, didn't we?
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On 29 Jul 2011, at 09:50, Matt Anderson m...@leeds-united.net
: Ian Murray ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 12:20:55
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Subject: Re: [LU] LU: Another
Stop being obtuse.
Kilkenny, Johnson and Schmeical were all first team
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He figured more than Nunez. He brought in short term loanees, of whom only
Bannan improved us - and he didn't play. I blame Grayson for that. Kilkenny
started loads for us. He was a first team player.
Depends on perspective - you see experienced midfield
one bites the dust...
Leicester City have won the race to sign Manchester City midfielder Michael
Johnson.
The injury-plagued midfielder has been linked with a handful of clubs in the
Npower Championship, but is hoping to rejuvenate his career under Sven
Goran-Erikson at the King Power
Leicester City have won the race to sign Manchester City midfielder Michael
Johnson.
The injury-plagued midfielder has been linked with a handful of clubs
in the Npower Championship, but is hoping to rejuvenate his career under
Sven Goran-Erikson at the King Power Stadium.
injured
Subject: [LU] LU: Another
one bites the dust...
Leicester City have won the race to sign Manchester City midfielder Michael
Johnson.
The injury-plagued midfielder has been linked with a handful of clubs in the
Npower Championship, but is hoping to rejuvenate his career under Sven
Goran-Erikson
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Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 08:49:14
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Subject: [LU] LU
From: ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com
Not really a question of
his being a Leeds fan, more a question of (a) did we want him anyway and
(b) if we did, would we pay enough.
If the answer to (a) is yes then the answer to (b) is no.
I'm sure we were willing to pay enough within our value of the
I'm sure we were willing to pay enough within our value of the player
but not the agent's value of the player.
Now, to sort our some of these wages/pay arguments on the list it would be
helpful if we had all the facts. If this was an American sport (NFL, NBA,
MLB), player wages and total
Anyone know why do we find out about the costs of some transfers while others
are for an undisclosed fee?
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I'm sure we were
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I'm sure we were willing to pay enough within our value of the player
but not the agent's value of the player.
Now, to sort our some of these wages/pay arguments
Anyone know why do we find out about the costs of some transfers while
others are for an undisclosed fee?
Simply because private companies don't have to disclose transaction prices.
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Eh ok so why do they disclose others then?
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Subject: Re: [LU] LU: Another
Anyone know why do we find out about the costs of some transfers while
others
Eh ok so why do they disclose others then?
because they agree to! - they don't have to, but sometimes they choose to
go public. Perhapsthe buying club makes public an offer - or the player's
agent publishes an offer in a bid to drum up a better one, etc.
I think it's surprising that the US has tight regulations like that. I think if
similar regs were put in place with football, it would solve a lot of problems
we have with liars like Bates.
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On 28 Jul 2011, at 20:03, Mark Tuffey wiscole...@hotmail.com wrote:
From:
I think it's surprising that the US has tight regulations like that. I
think if similar regs were put in place with football, it would solve a lot
of problems we have with liars like Bates.
How? By making him disclose how much money he hasn't spent?
It would stop imbeciles like
It would show how much our wage structure is holding us back, and reign in
Ridsdale esque spenders in the league. Do you think it would be a bad thing
then?
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On 28 Jul 2011, at 21:03, markbu...@aol.com wrote:
I think it's surprising that the US has tight regulations
It would show how much our wage structure is holding us back, and reign
in Ridsdale esque spenders in the league. Do you think it would be a bad
thing then?
No, it would be excellent. But I don't see how it would affect Bates. He's
not breaking the bank on transfers or wages.
There's still enough areas of revenue that aren't public...such as TV
contracts, local radio, merchandise, ticket sales, etc but at least we'd know
where we stand with player wages.
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Mark
El Presidente Wisconsin Whites
Leeds United
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It would put pressure on him to pay the going rate.
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On 28 Jul 2011, at 21:18, markbu...@aol.com wrote:
It would show how much our wage structure is holding us back, and reign
in Ridsdale esque spenders in the league. Do you think it would be a bad
thing then?
It would put pressure on him to pay the going rate.
Define the going rate. Leicester City's current going rate, or Norwich's
going rate last season?
I'm sure Ridsdale thought he was paying the going rate for Seth Johnson.
I'm just trying to get my head round how you view a
Obviously if it were shown that we were paying conspicuously less than clubs
smaller and with smaller turnover, then he would feel pressured to bridge the
gap. I'm talking at least the middle of the bell curve. He could convincingly
justify not over spending in those circumstances. Not too
Obviously if it were shown that we were paying conspicuously less than
clubs smaller and with smaller turnover, then he would feel pressured to
bridge the gap. I'm talking at least the middle of the bell curve. He could
convincingly justify not over spending in those circumstances. Not too
The main thrust of my argument was that it would force us to pay going rate, ie
towards the middle if the bell curve.
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On 28 Jul 2011, at 22:39, markbu...@aol.com wrote:
Obviously if it were shown that we were paying conspicuously less than
clubs smaller and with
How do we know he isn't? Snodgrass hasn't gone. He was the most saleable asset
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On 28 Jul 2011, at 21:30, Ian Murray ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com wrote:
It would put pressure on him to pay the going rate.
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On 28 Jul 2011, at 21:18, markbu...@aol.com
Do we not pay this?? Must have been one if the highest in league one. First
season in championship did well. Other than frees and offloads players seem ok.
Not a disaster. Missed out on a few high profile signings but got a £15k a week
keeper in the end.
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On 28 Jul
The main thrust of my argument was that it would force us to pay going
rate, ie towards the middle if the bell curve.
Do you not believe we are already there? It's clear that footballers'
agents see Leeds as a meal ticket for their journeyman clients. Biggest club in
the division,
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