Holand,
As someone with a Mc surname, I obviously have thoughts on this.
I always write my name McGlone, but my dad often writes his as Mc
Glone, and just as often McGlone (my grandfather was registered on his
baptismal cert as Maglone, but that's another matter)!
There's no definitive standard
WOW! I just learned another neat Legacy trick. Thanks Dave.
I have several different spellings of Vanderberg (Vanderborg.
Vandenburg etc) that I would like to sort under one spelling to make
it easier to find duplicates etc.
I realize that names should be entered as spelled, but with so many
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Behalf Of Chick Lewis
Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 1:50 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Surnames With Mc Standard?
WOW! I just learned another neat Legacy trick. Thanks Dave.
I have several
Kirsten Bowman wrote
_Getting It Right_ by Mary H. Slawson recommends leaving a space.
I am amazed, I would have said that inserting a space between Mc or Mac
and the rest of the name was WRONG, WRONG, WRONG!
--
Jenny M Benson
Legacy User Group guidelines:
_Getting It Right_ by Mary H. Slawson recommends leaving a space.
SHE GOT IT WRONG!!
Mary Young
Edinburgh, Scotland
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Online
at:
http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 12:07:32 +0100
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Surnames
, 2009 4:40 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Surnames with Mc standard?
Kirsten Bowman wrote
_Getting It Right_ by Mary H. Slawson recommends leaving a space.
I am amazed, I would have said that inserting a space between Mc or Mac
and the rest of the name was WRONG, WRONG, WRONG!
--
Jenny M Benson
Mary Ron:
It looks like I have some work to do. Our local genealogical group
(Summit County, Ohio, USA) has put together an Excel spreadsheet of all known
veterans buried in Summit County cemeteries. I took on the task of
keeping it up-to-date and going through all of the entries
/Grimshaw/
For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
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From: howlanddavi...@aol.com
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 07:37:24 -0400
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Surnames
...@verizon.net wrote:
From: RICHARD SCHULTHIES fourpa...@verizon.net
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Surnames with Mc standard?
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Date: Friday, September 11, 2009, 8:37 AM
If my ancestor Alexander Mc Dougal
always signed his name 'wrong' his whole life, does
Of course, there will be other Mc's besides McDonalds. So maybe you want to
search and replace Mc with Mc and Mac with Mac. (But I'd want to
check that process one by one probably.)
On 11 Sep 2009 Paul Ramshaw wrote:
Of course, there will be other Mc's besides McDonalds. So maybe you
want to search and replace Mc with Mc and Mac with Mac. (But
I'd want to check that process one by one probably.)
Why is Search Replace even being suggested!?
It is so simple to go to
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 14:41:34 -0400
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Surnames With Mc Standard?
On 11 Sep 2009 Paul Ramshaw wrote:
Of course, there will be other Mc's besides McDonalds. So maybe you
want to search and replace Mc with Mc and Mac with Mac. (But
I'd want
Because they're talking about a spreadsheet, not a Legacy database. :-)
Kind Regards,
Wendy
- Original Message -
*From:* Dave Naylor dcnay...@bell.net
*To:* LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
*Sent:* 09/12/2009 6:41:34 AM +1200
*Subject:* [LegacyUG] Surnames With Mc Standard?
On
, would it cause a problem?
Jim
- Original Message -
From: RICHARD SCHULTHIES fourpa...@verizon.net
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 9:37 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Surnames with Mc standard?
If my ancestor Alexander Mc Dougal always signed his
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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 16:19:30 -0400
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Surnames With Mc Standard?
On 11 Sep 2009 ronald ferguson wrote:
Nobody is stopping anyone from from doing it maunually, it rather
depends on how may you have to replace doesn't it?
NO!! Not in a Legacy
To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 5:46 AM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Surnames With Mc Standard?
Howland,
It should be easy enough for you to change, using SearchSearch and Replace.
Search for Mc Donald and replace with McDonald - I guess that you may have
to do
it on the certificate.
The thinking being your name is YOU. Forget what others expect.
Art Seddon
- Original Message -
From: Jim Smith
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 12:34 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Surnames with Mc standard?
-To: ased
No space my whole life! Can't recall seeing a space in over 2000
ancestors on the McKain side...
Keith McKain
Surnames: McKain, Horn, Riale, Ulrich, Erisman, Leiphart, Reed and Henry
Website: http://home.comcast.net/~geosci64
EMail: geosc...@gmail.com
McCain-McKane-O'Kane DNA Group 1
On
I have (RARELY) seen a dash under the c (not sure how to even type it)
but nospace.
Keith
Surnames: McKain, Horn, Riale, Ulrich, Erisman, Leiphart, Reed and Henry
Website: http://home.comcast.net/~geosci64
EMail: geosc...@gmail.com
McCain-McKane-O'Kane DNA Group 1
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at
Both may be correct! or neither!
Rich in LA CA
- Original Message
From: Paula Ryburn paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 2:54:56 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Surnames with Mc standard?
What's the standard for entering
I believe the dash indicates Mac. As for Spaces, I am chicken, I find
my McNeills frequently as Mc Neill which I think is a bureaucrats way
of doing it.
Eliz
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 6:48 PM, GeoSci geosc...@gmail.com wrote:
I have (RARELY) seen a dash under the c (not sure how to even type
Paula:
_Getting It Right_ by Mary H. Slawson recommends leaving a space. Because I
post my database at RootsWeb though, I use the version with no space as an
alternate name. Otherwise RootsWeb searches for McDowell won't find Mc
Dowell. That's likely to re-start the not a true aka discussion,
Well, as someone with a Maiden Name that starts with Mc - here is my rant.
(ignore if you like.)
I personally always hated it when someone put a space in my name. Drove me
crazy! I also hated it if people got the capitalization wrong. Even if
someone was doing all-caps, I would do that c
-
From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Dawn Crowley
Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 10:54 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] surnames not ALL CAPS
If the surnames were originally entered in all caps, they can be revised
one
An aside - do you index de la Ware under 'd' or 'W'?
My surnames are all in Caps - I only heard via LUG this week that
anyone did it a different way! Now I have another change to make as
well as the sources. Having started about 45 years ago with paper and
pencil, I could do without another
. England See:
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
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Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 11:17:44 +0100
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] surnames not ALL CAPS
From: roobee...@googlemail.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
An aside - do you
SURNAMES in your file.
Valerie
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From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Dawn Crowley
Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 10:54 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] surnames not ALL CAPS
If the surnames were
:
From: Valerie Laskowski lask...@att.net
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] surnames not ALL CAPS
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Date: Monday, June 8, 2009, 11:50 PM
Actually, if you will go to the
Options-Customize-Data Format; 3rd section
Letter Case of Surnames
I would select the first
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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] surnames not ALL CAPS
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Date: Tuesday, June 9, 2009, 3:17 AM
An aside - do you index de la Ware
under 'd' or 'W'?
My surnames are all in Caps - I only heard via LUG this
week that
anyone did it a different way! Now I
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2009 1:20:28 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] surnames not ALL CAPS
When I started genealogy on computer (using PAF2.1), it had the 'middle name'
field, so that was where they were. Because of some names, I
just made things more confused for you..
CE
-Original Message-
From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of RICHARD SCHULTHIES
Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 1:20 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] surnames
I do see that that makes sense. I have some older ancestors listed
under 'D' as in DE LA LANE and DE LA HORE but then the prefixes were
dropped at some stage so the later members of the family are under
LANE and HORE.
So that's another job in my 'tidying' - adding AKAs to rather a lot of
Flad to know I'm not alone. Thanks a lot to LUG.
-Original Message-
From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of
Elizabeth
Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 3:06 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] surnames not ALL CAPS
I do
Paula,
Simply go to search and Replace
Select Field Surname
Enter your all caps SURNAME
and in replace put Surname
I've done it MANY times!
Jay
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From: Paula Ryburn paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net
Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 7:23 PM
To:
in sight! ;)
--Paula
--- On Tue, 6/9/09, Elizabeth roobee...@googlemail.com wrote:
From: Elizabeth roobee...@googlemail.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] surnames not ALL CAPS
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Date: Tuesday, June 9, 2009, 5:06 PM
I do see that that makes sense.
I have some older
Robert, I tried it, and it looks like all of mine (as far as I could tell on a
quick run through the Index) are still in all caps. I suspect my old software
forced that, so when I loaded into Legacy they came in all caps. For the
individuals I've entered in the last 5 years, I guess
, 6/8/09, Robert Carneal USA carnea...@adelphia.net wrote:
From: Robert Carneal USA carnea...@adelphia.net
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] surnames not ALL CAPS
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Date: Monday, June 8, 2009, 9:50 PM
Depends a lot on how you set it up.
You -might- be able to lower
I still like ALL CAPS for SURNAMES! Guess I'm old-fashioned! Good luck
Paula . . . You'll love LUG . . . I do.
-Original Message-
From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Paula Ryburn
Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 7:23 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup
Subject:
Depends a lot on how you set it up. You -might- be able to lower the
case. If you entered the names as call caps to start with, this won't
work. But on the off-chance you pre-selected Uppercase for
surnames, we can probably force a lot of them to become lower-case.
Make sure you have a back
If the surnames were originally entered in all caps, they can be revised
one surname (not individual) at a time by:
1. Click on view.
2. Click on master lists.
3. Work your way down the surname list, editing each surname. (FYI,
if you want to see how many of any given surname are in
I don't know about the fashionableness of all caps. I didn't like CAPS from day
one, so I never did it. Since I had a lot of names like de la Ware, and
McDougal and O'Brien. They just looked better. When I downloaded a Gedcom from
IGI, many of them were all caps. What I did was,
1. Opened
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To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] surnames in all caps
Thanks.
As for switching the standardization warning, I had turned it on as a
learning tool and to see if it would be useful. There seems to be no way to
turn it off only
: [LegacyUG] surnames in all caps
Thanks.
As for switching the standardization warning, I had turned it on as a
learning tool and to see if it would be useful. There seems to be no
way to
turn it off only for Surnames in caps and keep the other warnings.
Jeff
Legacy User Group guidelines
On the customize tab, you can select an option to APPLY the settings. In
other words, go to :
Options, customize, Data format, select Initial case and then click the
APPLY button. This will catch 90%+ of the surnames. Then go into:
View, Master lists, Surname and manually fix the rest (MacXx
Jeff:
I don't know of a single global change to make surnames mixed case, but I
changed all of mine some time ago using the Master Surname Name List. It
was a little tedious, but it went fairly quickly.
Kirsten
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Thanks.
As for switching the standardization warning, I had turned it on as a
learning tool and to see if it would be useful. There seems to be no way to
turn it off only for Surnames in caps and keep the other warnings.
Jeff
Robert57P via Gmail wrote:
On the customize tab, you can select
Thank you. I just am not sure it is necessary in the first place ;-)
Jeff
Kirsten Bowman wrote:
Jeff:
I don't know of a single global change to make surnames mixed case,
but I changed all of mine some time ago using the Master Surname Name
List. It was a little tedious, but it went
Kathy,
EXCELLENT! In the MasterLists (I usually only looked at Location) -
the Surname showed all caps for the Mc* names (I do not know how)
- but a simple EDIT there fixed them all throughout my files. Nice -
simple fix that worked - just what was needed.
Thanks,
Keith
On Sun, Jun 15,
Years ago I ran into this, and at the time changed to 'Don't change what I
enter' under DATA FORMAT, below Initial caps.
Rich in LA CA
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To: Legacy User Group LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 7:09:01 PM
Keith:
Try VIEW-MasterLists-Surname and then check your spellings for the
problematic spellings. I am willing to bet that that's where the problem is...
I have found that, especially if I have done major data entry,
sometimes mis spellings of Surnames creep in and this is the best way
to
Geoff Rasmussen wrote
The primary reason for this is because you would lose the flexibility
if you want to switch between ALL CAPS or mixed case. If you type in
mixed case, you have the option to display in ALL CAPS. If you type in
ALL CAPS, you don't have the option to display in mixed case.
Michelle,
The way I would fix this is by selecting View, then Master Lists, then
Surname. From the surname list you can edit each surname and make the change
global by surname.
Also please send e-mails to the list in plain text.
Mike
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Michele,
I clicked on Legacy Help and looked up Surnames Case. The first two
entries seem to be what you need:
Customize - Data Format
Letter Case of Given Names and Locations Upon Field Exit
Capitalizes each name in the Given name field and each word in the
Place fields when you leave these
out.
michele
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From: Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 6:27 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Surnames in all caps?
Michelle,
The way I would fix this is by selecting View, then Master Lists, then
Surname. From
Michele Lewis wrote
t says that you should NOT type in the surnames in all caps
I haven't got the training videos. Why should you not type surnames in
all caps? I do.
--
Jenny M Benson
Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et
Legacy User Group guidelines:
Why should you not type surnames in all caps? I do.
I started on a different program which stored each name the way you typed it
in. It also displayed surnames in caps, no matter which way they were typed,
but I did not realized that at first. I merrily typed the surname in all
caps, then
Message -
From: Jenny M Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 6:44 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Surnames in all caps?
Michele Lewis wrote
t says that you should NOT type in the surnames in all caps
I haven't got the training videos
Hello everyone
Please forgive my intrusion on this BUT en I was a little whipper snipper we
were taught to enter a persons Christian (First Middle) names as a Cap for
first (1st) letter as a Capital balance of those names in LOWER case, the
Surname (last) name/names was then to be entered
Rasmussen
Millennia Corporation
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jenny M
Benson
Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 4:45 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Surnames
I have put ALL the variations into AKAs. I don't
really like it, but with the Spanish name system, I
also have the patronymic systerm of Scadinavia, the
Medieval Royalty system and others. This is at present
too complicated to come up with one universal system.
Rich in LA CA
--- familyjesse [EMAIL
I think I may not be understanding your problem. I put the actual surname
of the person in the surname field, so if the child's surname is 'Ramirez
Gomez' that's what goes in the surname field. It indexes under the R's,
as it should. I would think using Gomez as a suffix instead of as part of
a
Hi Carol,
As Cary says, you don't need a quoted name if the name used is the first name.
However, when you do use a quoted name, you don't put the quotes
around the name in the normal sequence but add it at the end, even if
it is a repeat. Otherwise it looks as if the name is just a nickname
Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cary
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 12:43 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Surnames
Not in Legacy, if you put it in the surname field. Also not in any state
that records the surname
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom
Montgomery
Sent: Tuesday, 27 March 2007 7:44:AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Surnames
You can certainly enter both names in the surname field but a Legacy printed
report will give someone the indication the first
Just write the surnames without a hyphen. For example Paul Stumme Diers.
Stumme is the husband's name and Diers is the wife's name.
Jim
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom
Montgomery
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 11:52 AM
To:
as far as the birth certificate, that is done by the issuing state, thus legacy
can handle the entry of the named child.
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From: James E Bruckman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 1:28:54 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG
.
Thanks for your input.
Tom
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Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 10:34 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Surnames
as far as the birth certificate, that is done by the issuing state
to put one name before the other, of course.
Cary
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom
Montgomery
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 2:27 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Surnames
Many thanks
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Montgomery
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 12:27 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Surnames
Many thanks for responding. Doing it this way makes Stumme a given name, not
a surname.
Tom
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED
@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Surnames
Not in Legacy, if you put it in the surname field. Also not in any state
that records the surname separately from the first name(s) as many do now
that records are computerized. If you make it clear to the
hospital/registration office what you want
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Surnames
You can certainly enter both names in the surname field but a Legacy printed
report will give someone the indication the first surname entered name is a
middle name - - only the second entered name will appear as the surname
One more thing on this thread about having two, unhyphenated surnames - you
can also enter a 'hard space' between the two last name words - hold down
the Alt key and enter 0160 from the numeric keypad. This will keep the two
words together without the appearance of a hyphen. If you enter the
Tom Montgomery wrote
Need some assistance. My niece married but did not take her husbands
name - and he did not take hers. This would be like individuals living
together and using their own surnames but in my case they are married.
Hyphenation is not an option. She wants to know how they (she
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