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Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/
-Original Message-
From: Jerry
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 2:37 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to record this location.
Thanks Mary. If you or anyone has a website or a link that you can
share with me some
Thanks Mary. If you or anyone has a website or a link that you can
share with me some time, I can always be persuaded to look at the issue
again. What I would be looking for is a systematic way in which the
location list could maintain complete alphabetical integrity while using
things like App
I am not saying that there is anything wrong with expressing your opinion of
how you use the location and address fields. As has been stated many, many
times, the Legacy developers have provided a tool that is very flexible and
gives us different ways to use it. How we use it is up to each ind
I am not saying that there is anything wrong with expressing your opinion of
how you use the location and address fields. As has been stated many, many
times, the Legacy developers have provided a tool that is very flexible and
gives us different ways to use it. How we use it is up to each ind
> > address scholz-c...@gmx.de
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> > Bernhard
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> > -Original Message-
> > From: Tony Rolfe [mailto:geneal...@gillandtony.com]
> > Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 2:58 AM
> > To: LegacyUserGroup@Lega
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From: Dennis M. Kowallek [mailto:kowal...@iglou.com]
(Can't assume that a mechanized conversion is possible.)
--
I totally agree. If one did not use the four place convention as intended, it
would NOT be possible to mechanize the conversion.
bgj
Legacy User Gro
On Mon, 24 Oct 2011 18:17:29 -0400, "BG Johnson" wrote:
>I believe that this is a case where separate fields would have been better.
I cannot say without more study. But given that the location fields
probably came long before some of the other features that use them now
(geolocs, mapping, isear
.com]
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 4:26 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to record this location.
On Sun, 23 Oct 2011 19:52:48 -0400, "BG Johnson" wrote:
>1. It is my opinion that a single field in a database that uses a csv
>format withi
: Monday, October 24, 2011 4:26 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to record this location.
On Sun, 23 Oct 2011 19:52:48 -0400, "BG Johnson" wrote:
>1. It is my opinion that a single field in a database that uses a csv
>format within the field is poo
There is a title for every window in Legacy in the top border of that window.
Also, when you have a problem, it helps to document *how* you arrived
at the screen you're seeing a problem with.
Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 12:14 PM, Ch wrote:
>
On Sun, 23 Oct 2011 19:52:48 -0400, "BG Johnson" wrote:
>1. It is my opinion that a single field in a database that uses a csv
>format within the field is poor design.
Being a retired IT professional, I would not make a blanket statement
like that. It all depends on HOW the data is used.
I
, October 24, 2011 8:14 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Cc: Mike Fry
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to record this location.
On 10/24/2011 7:06 AM, Mike Fry wrote:
On 2011/10/24 14:03, Bernhard Scholz wrote:
If not, please don't use terms you can't describe but only heard about.
It als
On 10/24/2011 7:06 AM, Mike Fry wrote:
> On 2011/10/24 14:03, Bernhard Scholz wrote:
>
>> If not, please don't use terms you can't describe but only heard about.
> It also helps us when you
>
> a) Use the titles that Legacy uses for each Window
> b) real field labels
>
On the point of describing Le
unday, October 23, 2011 11:26 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to record this location.
On this list I have recommended this site
http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~jimella/counties.htm many times for English
locations. As well as describing, as best as one can, a f
nt: Monday, October 24, 2011 1:53 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] How to record this location.
This location thing has been beat to death, not only in the last couple of days,
but in previous spurts of similar threads. So, let me add my thoughts.
1. It is my op
nhard
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> -Original Message-
> From: Tony Rolfe [mailto:geneal...@gillandtony.com]
> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 2:58 AM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] How to record this location.
>
> The more I think back about this issu
, and stop brow beating those who choose not to use your method.
Ron Bernier
Woonsocket, RI
From: Bernhard Scholz [scholz-c...@gmx.de]
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 10:29 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] How to record this loca
e list but per email with the email
address scholz-c...@gmx.de
Bernhard
-Original Message-
From: Tony Rolfe [mailto:geneal...@gillandtony.com]
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 2:58 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] How to record this location.
The more I think b
2011 11:26 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to record this location.
On this list I have recommended this site
http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~jimella/counties.htm many times for English
locations. As well as describing, as best as one can, a format for them, it
y of Australia
-Original Message-
From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 9:58 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to record this location.
Paul,
For me "Townsville, , Queensland, Australia" Ugh!! I cannot
day, October 23, 2011 10:38 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to record this location.
My Scottish address has 6 fields and this what I allow for Legacy addresses. The
base problem is that US addressesi are standardised in a way not used in other
countries.
Uk add
Randy,
I wouldn't classify this as a personal vendetta. I was merely clarifying my
position on the use of the Address field and defending my knowledge and
experience in the world of technology.
Consider this now dropped.
Mary
On Oct 24, 2011, at 8:28 AM, Randy Clark wrote:
> How about we m
How about we move on from this personal vendetta?
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 8:24 AM, M. Brenzel wrote:
> Bernard,
>
> As I have said many times, I do not see the value of using the Address
> field on the birth, death, etc. events. I KNOW how to use it but I choose
> NOT to for the reasons I have
Bernard,
As I have said many times, I do not see the value of using the Address field on
the birth, death, etc. events. I KNOW how to use it but I choose NOT to for
the reasons I have given. Legacy is very flexible and I don't like how those
addresses appear in my reports and webpages. Which
: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to record this location.
You've seen all the other replies, but if you still wish to have the town in the
first field, and if you just want to add simple qualifiers like 'High Street',
or a cemetery name, or a hospital name, the
On 2011/10/24 14:03, Bernhard Scholz wrote:
> If not, please don't use terms you can't describe but only heard about.
It also helps us when you
a) Use the titles that Legacy uses for each Window
b) real field labels
--
Regards,
Mike Fry
Johannesburg
Legacy User Group guidelines:
http://www.Le
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Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 3:24 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] How to record this location.
Tony,
See below for my replies for each of your questions.
Mary
--If you record a birth location as "Smallville Hospital, 123, Small Street,
Smallville, rest o
e, country.
Btw closest pronunciation I can think of is ull as in sea gull
Cheers
Erica
-Original Message-
From: Bernhard Scholz [mailto:scholz-c...@gmx.de]
Sent: Monday, 24 October 2011 10:04 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] How to record this location.
G
:17 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] How to record this location.
Bernhard
In Australia we only use town and state, so 3 fields with country. The town of
Ulladulla, NSW, Australia, for example, is in the local government area of
Shoalhaven, the Federal electorate of Gilmore an
-Original Message-
From: BG Johnson
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 12:52 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] How to record this location.
This location thing has been beat to death, not only in the last couple of
days, but in previous spurts of similar threads. So, let
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to record this location.
On this list I have recommended this site
http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~jimella/counties.htm many times for English
locations. As well as describing, as best as one can, a format for them, it
also gives a brief historic background as to how
The more I think back about this issue, the more I think it was with a
much earlier version of Legacy (Legacy 4?) and long before the mapping
feature was invented. I've done a few experiments with using street
addresses in locations and can't find anything which would cause any
angst. Maybe the p
Ron,
Just came from that site and it has been updated and moved to:
http://www.jimella.me.uk/counties.cfm
Thank you for an excellent reference...only have one "outlaw" branch from
England...and most of my information has come from the census pages...which
can be very confusing!!! Maybe with the he
On 23/10/2011 22:42, Margaret Turner wrote:
> Ltools deluxe has a great feature to do this automatically for you
> http://zippersoftware.com/wp/ltools/current-ltools-features/deluxe-ltools-features/
> Address Converter – converts Event Addresses into Locations.
Thanks. I have Ltools now, but no
.
Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/
-Original Message-
From: Joan
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 9:37 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to record this location.
My Scottish address has 6 fields and this what I allow for Legacy addresses.
The base problem
From: Joan
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Sun, October 23, 2011 3:37:43 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to record this location.
My Scottish address has 6 fields and this what I allow for Legacy addresses. The
base problem is that US addressesi are standardised i
quot;Jan Roberts" wrote:
> Not in Australia to my knowledge.
>
> Cheers
> Jan
> -Original Message-
> From: Bernhard Scholz [mailto:scholz-c...@gmx.de]
> Sent: Saturday, 22 October 2011 21:34
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG
@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to record this location.
You've seen all the other replies, but if you still wish to have the town in
the first field, and if you just want to add simple qualifiers like 'High
Street', or a cemetery name, or a hospital name, then consider this
conv
On 23/10/2011 01:17, Tony Rolfe wrote:
> If you record a birth location as "Smallville Hospital, 123, Small
> Street, Smallville, rest of location", what do you use the birth address
> field for?
I don't use the Birth Address field! (Or any of the other Address
fields. I used to, but hated the w
On 23/10/2011 09:09, Ron Ferguson wrote:
> The situation which Tony identifies is quite common in our censuses. The
> location hasn't changed between censuses! The answer is simple (if you're
> from here :-)): Hallam is a district with the city of Sheffield, as a
> complete aside it is the constitu
year.
Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/
-Original Message-
From: M. Brenzel
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 2:24 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] How to record this location.
Tony,
See below for my replies for each of your questions.
Mary
--How do yo
From: Paul Brown
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 3:24 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to record this location.
I have used the 4 fields since the Geo Location Database first came out.
The facility to suppress double commas in printing is sufficient for output,
as
of
personal preference.
Cheers
Paul
Townsville, , Queensland, Australia.
- Original Message -
From: "Jan Roberts"
To:
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 8:47 AM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] How to record this location.
Not in Australia to my knowledge.
Cheers
Jan
-Origin
Tony,
See below for my replies for each of your questions.
Mary
--If you record a birth location as "Smallville Hospital, 123, Small Street,
Smallville, rest of location", what do you use the birth address field for?
I don't use the address fields for birth, death, burial, etc. as I don't lik
Bernhard
In Australia we only use town and state, so 3 fields with country. The
town of Ulladulla, NSW, Australia, for example, is in the local
government area of Shoalhaven, the Federal electorate of Gilmore and the
State electorate of South Coast, but none of those would be used in a
location.
Not in Australia to my knowledge.
Cheers
Jan
-Original Message-
From: Bernhard Scholz [mailto:scholz-c...@gmx.de]
Sent: Saturday, 22 October 2011 21:34
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] How to record this location.
Ron,
I have to disagree as the 4 field
Rolfe"
To:
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 7:04 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] How to record this location.
My problem, all those years ago, was that when I entered a location as
"Morden, Surrey, England" Legacy was able to deduce that Morden was a
town. However, if I entered "Hig
sers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] How to record this location.
Ron,
I have to disagree as the 4 field convention is not only an American idea
but
also used in many other countries around the world. eg. Australia, Austria,
Germany and if I remeber right in Switzerland.
BTW, as you live in England what do yo
think of this ;-).
Bernhard
-Original Message-
From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 1:39 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to record this location.
Tony,
I am tempted to ask what 4 field convention? I do
On 22/10/2011 00:04, Tony Rolfe wrote:
> My problem, all those years ago, was that when I entered a location as
> "Morden, Surrey, England" Legacy was able to deduce that Morden was a
> town. However, if I entered "High Street, Morden, Surrey, England",
> Legacy assumed that the town was High Stre
If you search the archives you will see this 4 field conventions discussed
many times.
I believe that most of the knowledgeable Legacy users (especially outside
the USA) do the following:
- Ignore the 4 field convention and enter as many fields as seems
appropriate for the specific location (3, 4,
Ahh! For some reason I assumed it used Google Maps (despite the little
Bing symbol at the bottom). I guess I do use Bing, after all.
Legacy User Group guidelines:
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp
Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009:
http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@lega
Tony,
For your information, Legacy mapping uses Bing.
Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/
-Original Message-
From: Tony Rolfe
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 1:19 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] How to record this location.
I also don't use the Ame
I also don't use the American way of doing locations, but I do use the
geolocation database to put longitude and latitude data into all my
locations.
I don't use Bing. I'm quite happy with the Legacy mapping, except that
it assumes that the leftmost field of 4 is a town. I would love to use
loca
I do not put any
of those extra commas in.
Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/
-Original Message-
From: Tony Rolfe
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 12:04 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] How to record this location.
My problem, all those years ago, was that
My problem, all those years ago, was that when I entered a location as
"Morden, Surrey, England" Legacy was able to deduce that Morden was a
town. However, if I entered "High Street, Morden, Surrey, England",
Legacy assumed that the town was High Street, and this confused the
issue somewhat.
The
_
From: Tony Rolfe
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Thu, October 20, 2011 7:54:44 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] How to record this location.
Some time ago, I was advised by Legacy support that I should only keep
towns, villages etc. in the location list and that street addresses and
similar shou
On 21/10/2011 01:54, Tony Rolfe wrote:
> Some time ago, I was advised by Legacy support that I should only keep
> towns, villages etc. in the location list and that street addresses and
> similar should be kept separately.
Well, that's not the way I - and others - do it! I know several of us
put
ww.fergys.co.uk/
-Original Message-
From: Tony Rolfe
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 1:54 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] How to record this location.
Some time ago, I was advised by Legacy support that I should only keep
towns, villages etc. in the location list
Some time ago, I was advised by Legacy support that I should only keep
towns, villages etc. in the location list and that street addresses and
similar should be kept separately.
I have just discovered a family member who was killed in action during
WW1. He died as a result of enemy action, aboard
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