Re: [lfs-dev] Final call for changes before LFS/BLFS 10.1 release

2021-03-02 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
On 3/2/21 4:54 AM, Kevin Buckley wrote: On Sat, 27 Feb 2021 at 11:27, Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev wrote: We are about ready to release LFS/BLFS 10.1. All tickets have been closed and all packages have been tested using the current instructions in the books. That said, there are probably issues

[lfs-dev] LFS and BLFS Version 10.1 are released

2021-03-01 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
locally. Please direct any comments about this release to the LFS development team at lfs-...@linuxfromscratch.org or blfs-...@linuxfromscratch.org. Registration for the mailing lists is required to avoid junk email. -- Bruce Dubbs LFS [0] http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/10.1/ [1

Re: [lfs-dev] Final call for changes before LFS/BLFS 10.1 release

2021-02-28 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
On 2/28/21 10:27 PM, Kevin Buckley wrote: On Sat, 27 Feb 2021 at 11:27, Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev wrote: We are about ready to release LFS/BLFS 10.1. All tickets have been closed and all packages have been tested using the current instructions in the books. That said, there are probably

Re: [lfs-dev] Final call for changes before LFS/BLFS 10.1 release

2021-02-26 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
On 2/26/21 10:13 PM, Xi Ruoyao via lfs-dev wrote: On 2021-02-26 21:26 -0600, Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev wrote: We are about ready to release LFS/BLFS 10.1.  All tickets have been closed and all packages have been tested using the current instructions in the books. That said, there are probably

[lfs-dev] Final call for changes before LFS/BLFS 10.1 release

2021-02-26 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
We are about ready to release LFS/BLFS 10.1. All tickets have been closed and all packages have been tested using the current instructions in the books. That said, there are probably issues that still need to be addressed. If LFS is printed out on paper, it is about 300 pages. If BLFS is pr

Re: [lfs-dev] Promote JS78.8.0 for 10.1 ?

2021-02-24 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
On 2/24/21 12:13 PM, Ken Moffat via lfs-dev wrote: On Wed, Feb 24, 2021 at 03:48:05AM +, Ken Moffat via lfs-dev wrote: On Wed, Feb 24, 2021 at 04:31:12AM +0100, Pierre Labastie via lfs-dev wrote: On Wed, 2021-02-24 at 02:02 +, Ken Moffat via lfs-dev wrote: I see that people have been b

Re: [lfs-dev] Regression in top ?

2021-02-22 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
On 2/22/21 8:43 PM, Ken Moffat via lfs-dev wrote: On Tue, Feb 23, 2021 at 02:30:38AM +, Ken Moffat wrote: Finally got a 10.1-rc1+ system booted. But lookign at 'top' on this 8-thread machine it only shows the even-numbered cores (Cpu0 .. 2 .. 4 .. 6). This is plain wierd, is it a regressio

[lfs-dev] LFS-10.1-rc1 is released

2021-02-19 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
The Linux From Scratch community announces the release of LFS Version 10.1-rc1. It is a preliminary release of LFS-10.1. The Linux From Scratch community announces the release of LFS Version 10.1-rc1. It is a preliminary release of LFS-10.1. Major changes include toolchain updates to binutils-2

Re: [lfs-dev] More glibc-2.33/binutils-2.36.1 fun

2021-02-12 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
On 2/12/21 2:39 PM, Joe Locash via lfs-dev wrote: I haven't seen it mentioned and no reference to it in the dev book but I ran into this.  A make check may fail for binutils-2.36.1 with glibc-2.33 with:   FAIL: Run property 4   FAIL: Run property 4 (PIE)   FAIL: Run property 5   FAIL: Run p

Re: [lfs-dev] coreutils Ch.8 ("echo" command no longer needed)

2021-02-11 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
On 2/11/21 12:29 PM, Ryan Marsaw via lfs-dev wrote: Hello. In chapter 8's Coreutils there's this line: echo '# deleted' > m4/std-gnu11.m4 The original "std-gnu11.m4" is now usable ever since the autoconf upgrade to 2.71.  The echo line can be removed. Thanks. I'll test and make that change.

Re: [lfs-dev] Possible binutils-2.36 problems

2021-02-05 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
On 2/5/21 6:48 AM, Ken Moffat via lfs-dev wrote: While replying to Frans on -support re his inability to build glibc-2.33, I glanced at the binutils bugs https://www.mail-archive.com/bug-binutils@gnu.org/ and said that 2.36 might be buggy. At that time I hadn't read all the links gurgle found fo

Re: [lfs-dev] Util-linux uuidd.service file specifies a user and group

2021-01-28 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
On 1/28/21 2:18 PM, Brendan L via lfs-dev wrote: On Thu, Jan 28, 2021 at 11:22 AM Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev wrote: On 1/28/21 10:04 AM, Brendan L via lfs-dev wrote: I thought I'd also mention that for the instructions, it currently explicitly sets runstatedir=/run. You can have the

Re: [lfs-dev] Util-linux uuidd.service file specifies a user and group

2021-01-28 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
On 1/28/21 10:04 AM, Brendan L via lfs-dev wrote: I thought I'd also mention that for the instructions, it currently explicitly sets runstatedir=/run. You can have the same effect of runstatedir=/run by just setting --localstatedir=/var. I found arch does this in their builds. That puts files

Re: [lfs-dev] LFS 10.0 read-only file system failure

2021-01-16 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
On 1/16/21 9:43 AM, Jamenson Espindula via lfs-dev wrote: To re-emphasize: I _solved_ the problem. How: creating a configuration file from scratch (make config); answering all the questions accepting the suggested default answers. After that, I have invoked (make menuconfig) and adjusted some

Re: [lfs-dev] LFS 10.0 read-only file system failure

2021-01-13 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
On 1/13/21 11:45 PM, Jamenson Espindula via lfs-dev wrote: Em qua., 13 de jan. de 2021 às 12:47, Pierre Labastie via lfs-dev escreveu: On Wed, 2021-01-13 at 10:05 -0300, Jamenson Espindula via lfs-dev wrote: Looks like you haven't send the whole story. You should have seen something like: M

Re: [lfs-dev] cbindgen-0.16.0 and mozilla

2020-12-27 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
On 12/27/20 3:14 PM, Ken Moffat via lfs-dev wrote: On Sun, Dec 27, 2020 at 07:18:33PM +, Ken Moffat via lfs-dev wrote: On Sun, Dec 27, 2020 at 07:28:33PM +0100, gabriele balducci via lfs-dev wrote: hi I'm running into a problem with cbindgen-0.16.0 first identified by renodr. Both Thunder

[lfs-dev] cbindgen-0.16.0 and mozilla

2020-12-27 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
I'm running into a problem with cbindgen-0.16.0 first identified by renodr. Both Thunderbird and Firefox fail in the same way. In file included from Unified_cpp_dom_webgpu1.cpp:110: /build/firefox/firefox-78.6.0/dom/webgpu/ipc/WebGPUParent.cpp: In member function ‘mozilla::ipc::IPCResult mozil

Re: [lfs-dev] systemd-247

2020-12-25 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
On 12/25/20 12:14 PM, Roger Koehler wrote: On Fri, Dec 25, 2020 at 11:00 AM Bruce Dubbs wrote: On 12/25/20 10:36 AM, Roger Koehler wrote: Bruce, I moved my /usr/lib to its own partition and got a kernel panic because the following shared libraries were not in /lib: libcrypto.so.1.1 libp11

Re: [lfs-dev] blfs-book-10.0-html.tar.xz and lxqt

2020-12-11 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
On 12/11/20 10:55 PM, scsijon via lfs-dev wrote: Sorry folks, but downloading this file from your site gives me a corrupted file with a not-supported attributes. I've tried it a number of times with the same result. The NOCHUNKS version however seems to be ok. There was a typo in the script th

Re: [lfs-dev] Texinfo no longer recognizes "--disable-static"

2020-12-04 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
On 12/4/20 10:35 AM, Ryan Marsaw via lfs-dev wrote: Hello all. Since Texinfo 6.6, the configure switch "--disable-static" is no longer recognized.  It's safe to remove it from the instructions.  No static libs are installed now, and the ChangeLog mentions this as well. Thanks. I'll do that in

Re: [lfs-dev] Issue with GCC after leaving Chroot at end of Chap7 and re-entering it for Chap8

2020-11-18 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
On 11/18/20 11:05 PM, Kevin Buckley via lfs-dev wrote: On Wed, 18 Nov 2020 at 00:18, Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev wrote: I am in favor of just removing the strip section in Chapter 7. Saving 90 MB is not really significant for today's HW. We say that the user should have at least 5 GB fre

Re: [lfs-dev] Issue with GCC after leaving Chroot at end of Chap7 and re-entering it for Chap8

2020-11-17 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
On 11/17/20 3:41 AM, Pierre Labastie via lfs-dev wrote: On Tue, 2020-11-17 at 15:45 +0800, Kevin Buckley via lfs-dev wrote: On Mon, 16 Nov 2020 at 14:49, Kevin Buckley < kevin.m.buck...@gmail.com> wrote: Pretty sure this will be an "end-user" issue but, just in case anyone has seen something s

Re: [lfs-dev] eudev pkgconfig file

2020-11-16 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
On 11/16/20 10:43 AM, Roger via lfs-dev wrote: eudev puts udev.pc in /usr/share/pkgconfig; all other packages use /usr/lib/pkgconfig. To put udev.pc in /usr/lib/pkgconfig change eudev's "make install" command to make sharepkgconfigdir=/usr/lib/pkgconfig install You can do that, but see

Re: [lfs-dev] A small patch to make sysklogd work on startup

2020-11-16 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
On 11/16/20 8:42 AM, Joel Bion via lfs-dev wrote: It's always bothered me that for some time (perhaps as long as I have been using LFS?) that I could not get the kernel symbols properly loaded by sysklogd, producing a message sequence like this: Nov 15 15:45:38 www kernel: klogd 1.5.1, log sou

Re: [lfs-dev] Formatting of Package download URIs

2020-11-12 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
On 11/12/20 12:37 AM, Kevin Buckley via lfs-dev wrote: On Wed, 11 Nov 2020 at 23:57, Xi Ruoyao via lfs-dev wrote: Adding a link in package page will make it easier when some LFS package need to be upgraded in a completed system. -- Not sure that that's enough of a justification for having a

Re: [lfs-dev] Formatting of Package download URIs

2020-11-11 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
On 11/11/20 3:21 AM, Kevin Buckley via lfs-dev wrote: I was recently trying to generate a downlaod listing of the packages I had used when building my Pkguser based 9.1 system, inclduing the BLFS components that I'd merged into a single book. FWIW, so as to see what I needed to download from BLF

Re: [lfs-dev] sysklogd replacement

2020-10-30 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
On 10/30/20 11:00 AM, Tim Tassonis via lfs-dev wrote: On 10/29/20 1:31 PM, Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev wrote: On 10/29/20 12:49 AM, Geoff Swan via lfs-dev wrote: Hi, I've build many LFS systems using sysklogd as per the book. However new remote logging systems are asking for logging fea

Re: [lfs-dev] sysklogd replacement

2020-10-29 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
On 10/29/20 12:49 AM, Geoff Swan via lfs-dev wrote: Hi, I've build many LFS systems using sysklogd as per the book. However new remote logging systems are asking for logging features that sysklogd does not possess. These include port changes (other than what is in /etc/services, which is where s

Re: [lfs-dev] Adding attributes in the source XML

2020-10-06 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
On 10/6/20 7:59 PM, Kevin Buckley via lfs-dev wrote: On Tue, 6 Oct 2020 at 20:03, Pierre Labastie via lfs-dev wrote: Where should such a declaration go? The attribute has to be declared in the dtd (document type definition), where anything pertaining to the xml document is declared (not on

Re: [lfs-dev] connecting to the web in Ch 7 and 8

2020-10-02 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
On 10/2/20 8:46 AM, John Burrell via lfs-dev wrote: If you use a script(s) to install LFS (majority here?) you might consider it best to download the sources through the scripts rather than storing them all up front before running the scripts. I've been playing with this and found that it is stra

Re: [lfs-dev] LFS source md5sums

2020-09-28 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
On 9/28/20 11:46 AM, John Burrell via lfs-dev wrote: On Mon, 28 Sep 2020 at 16:42, Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev wrote: On 9/28/20 10:13 AM, John Burrell via lfs-dev wrote: I downloaded the SYSTEMD book and got the wget-list and md5sums files with: make -j1 -f ${REPODIR}/Makefile -C $REPODIR

Re: [lfs-dev] LFS source md5sums

2020-09-28 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
On 9/28/20 10:13 AM, John Burrell via lfs-dev wrote: I downloaded the SYSTEMD book and got the wget-list and md5sums files with: make -j1 -f ${REPODIR}/Makefile -C $REPODIR BASEDIR=$SourceDir ${SourceDir}/wget-list ${SourceDir}/md5sums which produces the correct wget-list file but the md5sums f

Re: [lfs-dev] Minor suggestion for 7.14. Cleaning up and Saving the Temporary System

2020-09-25 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
On 9/25/20 10:39 AM, Tim Tassonis via lfs-dev wrote: Hi all In 7.14, the book recommends to remove the temporary domumentation, by rm -rf /usr/share/{info,man,doc}/* I think the same could be done with the locale files, by find /usr/share/locale -name "*.mo" -delete This would save another

Re: [lfs-dev] TCL and Perl manpage clash

2020-09-22 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
On 9/22/20 2:25 AM, Kevin Buckley via lfs-dev wrote: On Sun, 13 Sep 2020 at 14:59, Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev wrote: On 9/12/20 9:35 PM, Kevin Buckley via lfs-dev wrote: One of those things you probably only notice if you are doing a PkgUser type build, as a root build will simply see the file

Re: [lfs-dev] TCL and Perl manpage clash

2020-09-12 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
On 9/12/20 9:35 PM, Kevin Buckley via lfs-dev wrote: One of those things you probably only notice if you are doing a PkgUser type build, as a root build will simply see the file overwritten without any warning, but wanted to point out that Chapter 8's TCL installs this manpage /usr/share/man/ma

Re: [lfs-dev] host /usr/share/config.site may break build

2020-09-04 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
On 9/4/20 2:30 AM, Pierre Labastie via lfs-dev wrote: On Fri, 2020-09-04 at 00:47 -0500, Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev wrote: On 9/3/20 10:53 PM, Xi Ruoyao via lfs-dev wrote: Now we are using --prefix=/usr in "Ch. 6 Cross Compiling Temporary Tools". The problem is that configure scripts

Re: [lfs-dev] host /usr/share/config.site may break build

2020-09-03 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
On 9/3/20 10:53 PM, Xi Ruoyao via lfs-dev wrote: Now we are using --prefix=/usr in "Ch. 6 Cross Compiling Temporary Tools". The problem is that configure scripts (generated by autoconf) will try to load ${prefix}/share/config.site and ${prefix}/etc/config.site. These things are really "powerful

Re: [lfs-dev] gcc-9.2.0 test suite

2020-09-02 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
On 9/2/20 3:04 PM, Tree Davies via lfs-dev wrote: On Wed, Sep 02, 2020 at 06:56:31PM +0200, Pierre Labastie via lfs-dev wrote: On Wed, 2020-09-02 at 07:52 -0700, Tree Davies via lfs-dev wrote: Hi Everyone, I automated my LFS build, and haven't had any issue with it. The other day during a rebu

[lfs-dev] LFS and BLFS Version 10.0 are released

2020-09-01 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
online[0]-[3], or download[4]-[7] to read locally. Please direct any comments about this release to the LFS development team at lfs-...@linuxfromscratch.org or blfs-...@linuxfromscratch.org. Registration for the mailing lists is required to avoid junk email. -- Bruce Dubbs LFS [0] http

Re: [lfs-dev] Typos

2020-08-28 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
On 8/28/20 10:29 AM, Julien Lepiller via lfs-dev wrote: Same file (sorry for sending two messages…) "This then creates the specified directory if is is not" (should be "it is"). Both fixed. Thanks. -- Bruce -- http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscr

Re: [lfs-dev] Very minor issue with bzip2 instructions

2020-08-23 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
On 8/23/20 3:44 PM, DJ Lucas via lfs-dev wrote: /lib/libbz2.so.1.0 is not a symlink but a hard link. In the grand scheme of things, it doesn't matter, any real difference (again, super minor) only shows up when packaging. Suggest changing the following: cp -av libbz2.so* /lib ln -sv ../../lib

Re: [lfs-dev] Comments on the expected test results in the book

2020-08-21 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
On 8/21/20 4:40 PM, Ken Moffat via lfs-dev wrote: I've now run the full set of tests on three different builds of 10.1-rc1, and I'm almost in agreement about the expected results. Two builds were on ryzen. Those used -O3 throughout, even in gcc where I had stopped doing that because of failures

Re: [lfs-dev] M4 in chapter 6 fails to compile

2020-08-20 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
On 8/20/20 11:28 AM, John Burrell via lfs-dev wrote: I get this result make[3]: Entering directory '/mnt/lfs/build/m4/m4-1.4.18/lib' CC gl_avltree_oset.o CC binary-io.o CC c-ctype.o CC c-stack.o CC c-strcasecmp.o CC c-strncasecmp.o CC

Re: [lfs-dev] Typos

2020-08-20 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
On 8/20/20 10:46 AM, Alexey Orishko via lfs-dev wrote: On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 6:05 PM Julien Lepiller via lfs-dev wrote: Thank you! More work for my translation though ^^ Fixed "optain", "envirnment", along with several other typos found by enchant at r12029. Just in case I found one in

Re: [lfs-dev] SVN 2020-08-11 chapter 8.4 tcl

2020-08-19 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
On 8/19/20 9:24 PM, Kevin Buckley via lfs-dev wrote: Either way, actually, given the four PoIs above, make that, whichever way, the LFS 10.0 TCL would seem to need a little more work, as it is missing the manual installation of the HTML docs. I came to realize that earlier today. It will be d

[lfs-dev] LFS-10.0-rc1 is released

2020-08-15 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
The Linux From Scratch community announces the release of LFS Version 10.0-rc1. It is a preliminary release of LFS-10.0. This version of the book has undergone a major reorganization. It uses enhanced cross-compilation techniques and an environment isolated from the host system to build tools f

[lfs-dev] Heads Up - Pending LFS-10.0-rc1 release

2020-08-14 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
I am planning on committing Pending LFS-10.0-rc1 tomorrow. There are a few changes to the current development system (linux-5.8.1, iproute2-5.8.0, libpipeline-1.5.3, and man-pages-5.08) but these really shouldn't affect what is in the current development book much. There is a possibility that

Re: [lfs-dev] Typo: chapter04/settingenviron.xml

2020-08-14 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
On 8/14/20 2:46 AM, Kevin Buckley via lfs-dev wrote: chapter04/settingenviron.xml, Line 35 - shell, which does not read, and execute, the conten of /etc/profile or + shell, which does not read, and execute, the content of /etc/profile or Thatks you. Will fix, but it should be 'contents'.

Re: [lfs-dev] Perl privlib is putting core modules in /usr/share

2020-08-13 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
On 8/13/20 11:32 PM, Kevin Buckley wrote: On Fri, 14 Aug 2020 at 11:48, Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev wrote: I might have missed this in the email thread but why does the change, which I've seen at r12020, hard-code the version number and not use the entity &perl-version-min; ? ...

Re: [lfs-dev] Perl privlib is putting core modules in /usr/share

2020-08-13 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
On 8/13/20 10:29 PM, Kevin Buckley via lfs-dev wrote: I've also install git using a sed to put the modules into /usr/lib/perl5/5.32/site_perl.. All of perl itself is in /usr/lib/perl5/5.32/core_perl, all the extra modules are in /usr/lib/perl5/5.32/site_perl). I think we ought to change the bo

Re: [lfs-dev] grub with uefi for LFS 10?

2020-08-05 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
On 8/5/20 2:25 AM, Xi Ruoyao via lfs-dev wrote: On 2020-08-05 14:37 +0800, Kevin Buckley via lfs-dev wrote: On Mon, 3 Aug 2020 at 00:46, Xi Ruoyao via lfs-dev wrote: It's nearly impossible. If we do that we'll have to introduce at least five new packages: dosfstools, popt, pciutils, efivar, a

Re: [lfs-dev] Tcl failed soem tests

2020-08-02 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
On 8/2/20 12:33 PM, Ken Moffat via lfs-dev wrote: On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 08:15:10PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev wrote: On 7/30/20 6:22 PM, Ken Moffat via lfs-dev wrote: On my experimental build which is currently in progress, I managed to log the results of tcl's tests. At first I th

Re: [lfs-dev] grub with uefi for LFS 10?

2020-08-01 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
On 8/1/20 3:10 PM, Timothy Russo via lfs-dev wrote: With efi being more the standard now, I'd like to ask if we could default grub to supporting uefi instead of having to use the uefi hint. Or at last maybe formalize it and make it an option, where you can pick bios/mbr or uefi option. The o

Re: [lfs-dev] More observations on directory creations

2020-08-01 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
On 8/1/20 9:20 AM, Pierre Labastie via lfs-dev wrote: Hi, Exceptionally top-posting, because, I'll answer in the message body, and I want to tell general things first. First, thanks to Kevin to be our "quality assurance". Those messages are bugging me, but make me think... Second, presently, the

Re: [lfs-dev] Some files on the final system are now created during the temporary tools phase

2020-07-31 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
On 7/31/20 2:14 PM, Marcel van den Boer via lfs-dev wrote: Thanks for this, I compared a completed system of SVN-20200721 with a backup of the temporary system and found that a few files from the temporary system are not reinstalled on the final system as a side effect of the new way of build

Re: [lfs-dev] Bootscript checkfs anomoly

2020-07-31 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
On 7/31/20 2:11 PM, William Harrington wrote: On Jul 31, 2020, at 12:25, Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev wrote: On 7/31/20 11:47 AM, William Harrington via lfs-dev wrote: Greetings, While checking file systems, the line at 131 will omit ‘Y’. The message ends up being “ou may want to double-check

Re: [lfs-dev] Bootscript checkfs anomoly

2020-07-31 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
On 7/31/20 11:47 AM, William Harrington via lfs-dev wrote: Greetings, While checking file systems, the line at 131 will omit ‘Y’. The message ends up being “ou may want to double-check that”. I had to remove the character before ‘Y’ to correct the output. Please verify. The only place in th

Re: [lfs-dev] Tcl failed soem tests

2020-07-30 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
On 7/30/20 9:23 PM, Ken Moffat via lfs-dev wrote: On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 08:15:10PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev wrote: On 7/30/20 6:22 PM, Ken Moffat via lfs-dev wrote: What I really think you need to do is do a full build without CFLAGS or CXXFLAGS set. Then compare with a build with

Re: [lfs-dev] Tcl failed soem tests

2020-07-30 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
On 7/30/20 6:22 PM, Ken Moffat via lfs-dev wrote: On my experimental build which is currently in progress, I managed to log the results of tcl's tests. At first I thought the tests had died, but in the end they completed (2.9 SBU with make -j8, most of the time obviously spent on tests which fai

Re: [lfs-dev] Expected package changes for LFS-10.0 ?

2020-07-28 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
On 7/28/20 5:30 PM, Ken Moffat via lfs-dev wrote: On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 04:32:50PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev wrote: The release will not be in time for LFS-10. Do you mean "old, with a broken test suite, but released" should always be preferred to "beta, but looks go

Re: [lfs-dev] Expected package changes for LFS-10.0 ?

2020-07-28 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
On 7/28/20 3:53 PM, Ken Moffat via lfs-dev wrote: I'll now mention that a new release of autoconf is being prepared. 2.69b (i.e. beta) came out a few days ago. Looking at gnu git, there have been a few more fixes since then. I'm on the autoconf mailing list and built the beta. Parallel build

Re: [lfs-dev] procps-ng: seds and rm for testsuite unnecessary

2020-07-28 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
On 7/28/20 10:06 AM, Ken Moffat via lfs-dev wrote: I think the following modifications to the procps-ng testsuite are unnecessary: sed -i -r 's|(pmap_initname)\\\$|\1|' testsuite/pmap.test/pmap.exp sed -i '/set tty/d' testsuite/pkill.test/pkill.exp rm testsuite/pgrep.test/pgrep.exp I dropped th

Re: [lfs-dev] Expected package changes for LFS-10.0 ?

2020-07-27 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
On 7/27/20 10:35 PM, Xi Ruoyao via lfs-dev wrote: On 2020-07-28 03:30 +0100, Ken Moffat via lfs-dev wrote: On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 09:05:32PM -0500, Douglas R. Reno via lfs-dev wrote: As far as I know, we have another binutils as well (2.35). I think there's a new version of Check as well, the

Re: [lfs-dev] Expected package changes for LFS-10.0 ?

2020-07-27 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
On 7/27/20 8:45 PM, Ken Moffat via lfs-dev wrote: I see that a newer gettext is now out, which probably allows bison-3.7.0 to build. Meanwhile, I'm hopeful that bison-3.7.1 will be out soon, with tests to detect whether it can use the functions added in 3.7 or must fall back to functions availab

Re: [lfs-dev] Creating the Minimal directory layout in LFS filesystem

2020-07-26 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
On 7/26/20 6:35 AM, Kevin Buckley via lfs-dev wrote: At present, the LFS Book, at Revision r12002, says 4.2. Creating the Minimal directory layout in LFS filesystem The first task performed in the LFS partition is to create a minimal directory hierarchy so that programs compiled in Chapter 6 ma

Re: [lfs-dev] Hints Project link broken

2020-07-24 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
On 7/24/20 5:14 AM, John Burrell via lfs-dev wrote: In section 8.2 Package Management, the 'Hints Project' link is broken. There are two of them on that page. Works for me, although the page simply has another link to the directory listing. I'll go ahead and link to the directory listing in m

Re: [lfs-dev] chapter 7 libstdc++ pass2 needs libfl.so.2

2020-07-23 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
On 7/23/20 6:39 AM, John Burrell via lfs-dev wrote: When running as a package user I couldn't compile libstdc++ in chapter 7 because it couldn't find libfl.so.2 I had to go back and add flex to chapter 6 to provide this library. Then it worked. I assume that if you follow the book then this libr

Re: [lfs-dev] The locales in Chapter 6 of the development book

2020-07-22 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
On 7/22/20 4:06 AM, John Burrell via lfs-dev wrote: I'm experimenting with installing chapters 5 and 6 as a package user. Can I safely delete the directory $LFS/usr/share/locale for each package that is reinstalled in Chapter 8? I assume I can, but thought I should ask in case the locales from ch

Re: [lfs-dev] 7.5. Creating Directories: Order of mode change descriptions wrong

2020-07-21 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
On 7/21/20 6:10 AM, Kevin Buckley via lfs-dev wrote: Noticed this in r11999 chapter07/creatingdirs.xml ... mkdir -pv /usr/{,local/}share/man/man{1..8} install -dv -m 1777 /tmp /var/tmp install -dv -m 0750 /root mkdir -v /var/{log,mail,spool} ln -sv /run /var/run ln -sv /run/lock /var/lock mkdi

Re: [lfs-dev] The testers user: could it be a proto-lfs user?

2020-07-20 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
On 7/20/20 3:21 AM, Kevin Buckley via lfs-dev wrote: Haven't got there in a build yet, as I'm looking at where to build Shadow, so as to get an su. but have noticed that there's an explicit "testers" user being created now, so as to run some Chapter 8 tests that should not be run as root. Given

Re: [lfs-dev] Bison: The tests are known to fail using multiple processors.

2020-07-19 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
On 7/19/20 11:15 AM, Ken Moffat via lfs-dev wrote: Where tests for a past version have been known to fail using -jN, we tend to carry forward a warning. Perhaps it would be more useful to say 'have been known to fail'. For example, today I tested the bison dev version on a completed system, and

Re: [lfs-dev] Chapter 4: Could the lfs user perfrom the minimal directory hierachy creation?

2020-07-13 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
On 7/13/20 6:18 AM, Kevin Buckley via lfs-dev wrote: At present, in Chapter 4, the host system's root user creates a minimal directory hierarchy, then creates the lfs user and then chown's the minimal directory hierarchy so as to be owned by th e lfs user, and finally does an su to the lfs user.

Re: [lfs-dev] Errors with Linux From Scratch Version SVN-20200707

2020-07-11 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
On 7/11/20 7:38 AM, Xi Ruoyao via lfs-dev wrote: On 2020-07-11 11:28 +, John Frankish via lfs-dev wrote: A couple of errors found: Chapter 6. Cross Compiling Temporary Tools 6.7. File-5.39 Building gives the error: Cannot use the installed version of file (5.37) to cross-compile file 5.39

Re: [lfs-dev] libelf

2020-07-07 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
On 7/7/20 8:13 AM, Pierre Labastie via lfs-dev wrote: On Tue, 2020-07-07 at 11:56 +0100, Roger via lfs-dev wrote: Yesterday I built LFS-9.1 (sysvinit not systemd) with /usr on a separate partition. Localnet failed when I booted. This is because ip (from iproute2) links to libelf which is in /usr

Re: [lfs-dev] proposal: prevent the influence of host /etc/bash.bashrc

2020-06-21 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
On 6/21/20 5:33 AM, Xi Ruoyao via lfs-dev wrote: On 2020-06-21 18:22 +0800, Xi Ruoyao via lfs-dev wrote: On 2020-06-21 05:16 -0500, Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev wrote: On 6/21/20 12:57 AM, Xi Ruoyao via lfs-dev wrote: On 2020-06-21 13:24 +0800, Xi Ruoyao via lfs-dev wrote: On 2020-06-20 21:24

Re: [lfs-dev] proposal: prevent the influence of host /etc/bash.bashrc

2020-06-21 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
On 6/21/20 12:57 AM, Xi Ruoyao via lfs-dev wrote: On 2020-06-21 13:24 +0800, Xi Ruoyao via lfs-dev wrote: On 2020-06-20 21:24 -0500, Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev wrote: On 6/20/20 8:30 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: On 6/20/20 7:07 PM, Xi Ruoyao via lfs-dev wrote: On 2020-06-20 16:58 -0500, Bruce Dubbs

Re: [lfs-dev] proposal: prevent the influence of host /etc/bash.bashrc

2020-06-20 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
On 6/20/20 8:30 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: On 6/20/20 7:07 PM, Xi Ruoyao via lfs-dev wrote: On 2020-06-20 16:58 -0500, Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev wrote: On 6/20/20 2:42 PM, Xi Ruoyao via lfs-dev wrote: The discussion with Frans de Boer in lfs-support shown that the environment variables from host

Re: [lfs-dev] proposal: prevent the influence of host /etc/bash.bashrc

2020-06-20 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
On 6/20/20 7:07 PM, Xi Ruoyao via lfs-dev wrote: On 2020-06-20 16:58 -0500, Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev wrote: On 6/20/20 2:42 PM, Xi Ruoyao via lfs-dev wrote: The discussion with Frans de Boer in lfs-support shown that the environment variables from host can catch us completely off guard. Though

Re: [lfs-dev] proposal: prevent the influence of host /etc/bash.bashrc

2020-06-20 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
On 6/20/20 2:42 PM, Xi Ruoyao via lfs-dev wrote: The discussion with Frans de Boer in lfs-support shown that the environment variables from host can catch us completely off guard. Though in his case the problem is that he forgot to create /home/lfs/.bash_profile, normally /etc/bash.bashrc would

Re: [lfs-dev] Some comments on the test results.

2020-06-19 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
On 6/19/20 11:58 AM, Pierre Labastie via lfs-dev wrote: On Fri, 2020-06-19 at 16:26 +0100, Ken Moffat via lfs-dev wrote: I've now been through my test logs for the new build (on my i7 haswell). Here are a few comments (in order of testing) bison-3.6.3 --- Here, I strongly disagree t

Re: [lfs-dev] ANNOUNCEMENT - Major Proposed Changes to LFS

2020-06-18 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
On 6/18/20 2:15 AM, Pierre Labastie via lfs-dev wrote: Thanks. This is "just" a typo here, but I guess we'll find some more errors: a big rewrite like that implies two very different tasks: - make the instructions work (lot of trial and error) - keep the text in sync with the instructions (not a

Re: [lfs-dev] Stripping Again: loss of suid on some files

2020-06-17 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
On 6/17/20 3:36 PM, Ken Moffat via lfs-dev wrote: On this build, after misreading 'stripping' earlier in the book (and trashing the partial system by running it from within chroot) I had to start over. So, before trying 'stripping again' I exited, unmounted, copied everything, then remounted be

Re: [lfs-dev] Stripping Again: loss of suid on some files

2020-06-17 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
On 6/17/20 1:55 PM, Ken Moffat via lfs-dev wrote: Bringing this here now that Scott Andrews has pointed me towards the source of why users could not su on my new system: loss of suid. In the past I have not usually run what was in 'Stripping Again' because my CFLAGS drop debug information. But

[lfs-dev] Major Changes to LFS have been made

2020-06-16 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
The changes to LFS announced earlier are now incorporated into the main book. For those who checked out svn://svn.linuxfromscratch.org/LFS/trunk/BOOK/, you only need to do an 'svn update' and rebuild the book. For those who checked out the entire repository, you will need to go to the head of

Re: [lfs-dev] ANNOUNCEMENT - Major Proposed Changes to LFS

2020-06-15 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
On 6/15/20 6:28 AM, Kevin Buckley via lfs-dev wrote: Might I playfully suggest that LFS should find a package that could optionally be built with CMake, so as to introduce new readers to that build system here too, rather than making them wait for that joy in BLFS. It has been considered, but

Re: [lfs-dev] ANNOUNCEMENT - Major Proposed Changes to LFS

2020-06-15 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
On 6/15/20 2:09 AM, Kevin Buckley via lfs-dev wrote: On Sat, 13 Jun 2020 at 20:46, Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev wrote: In the last few weeks, the LFS editors have been working on a major overhaul of LFS. This work can be reviewed at http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/~bdubbs/cross2-lfs-book/ Was

Re: [lfs-dev] ANNOUNCEMENT - Major Proposed Changes to LFS

2020-06-14 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
On 6/14/20 11:41 AM, Xi Ruoyao via lfs-dev wrote: On 2020-06-14 10:49 -0500, Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev wrote: On 6/14/20 8:35 AM, Pierre Labastie via lfs-dev wrote: On Sun, 2020-06-14 at 15:15 +0200, Pierre Labastie via lfs-dev wrote: I am currently testing whether moving iana-etc before gcc

Re: [lfs-dev] ANNOUNCEMENT - Major Proposed Changes to LFS

2020-06-14 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
On 6/14/20 8:35 AM, Pierre Labastie via lfs-dev wrote: On Sun, 2020-06-14 at 15:15 +0200, Pierre Labastie via lfs-dev wrote: I am currently testing whether moving iana-etc before gcc may allow tests to pass, as reported by Joe Locash. If so, I'll commit it. Hmm, having iana-etc does not chan

[lfs-dev] ANNOUNCEMENT - Major Proposed Changes to LFS

2020-06-13 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
In the last few weeks, the LFS editors have been working on a major overhaul of LFS. This work can be reviewed at http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/~bdubbs/cross2-lfs-book/ The elements of building LFS using cross compiling techniques have changed a lot. The old Chapter 5 has been split into t

Re: [lfs-dev] Future for LFS

2020-06-13 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
On 6/13/20 7:03 AM, William Harrington via lfs-dev wrote: On Jun 12, 2020, at 23:40, Andrew Nevai via lfs-dev wrote: I will also keep it short. Do not ever use the word "nazis" again on this list. Nobody here deserves to be called that. Andrew # I’ll keep it short and make all of you top

Re: [lfs-dev] Future for LFS

2020-06-12 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
On 6/12/20 10:00 PM, William Harrington via lfs-dev wrote: Greetings, I’ve noticed that LFS is only targeting i386 and AMD64. The is a great hunger for LFS to support ARM. Many have wished for the support. What is keeping LFS from supporting ARM? What I have seen while reading forums and IRC

Re: [lfs-dev] Odd failure to make the book

2020-06-12 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
On 6/12/20 7:14 PM, Ken Moffat via lfs-dev wrote: I've been updating my local copy of cross2, and creating that book, without noticing any obvious problems. But before I attempt to check my scripts agaisnt it I thought I'd better ensure that my copy of trunk (from which I update package versions

Re: [lfs-dev] User 'tester' : why is the uid 1000 ?

2020-06-06 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
On 6/6/20 4:39 PM, Ken Moffat via lfs-dev wrote: Well, again thanks, but I'm not at all certain. For example, the host system is the one where after its first boot I managed to run the 'check' tests without failures. Now (normal desktop installed, but same kernel) the tests which raise sigfpe

Re: [lfs-dev] User 'tester' : why is the uid 1000 ?

2020-06-06 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
On 6/6/20 2:05 PM, Ken Moffat via lfs-dev wrote: I can see that the tester user gets added by a command which uses ls -n $(tty) and I now see that this results for me in a value of 1000. What I don't understand is where that comes from. On my systems user 1000 happens to be the most important

Re: [lfs-dev] proposal: some improvements to LFS book

2020-05-29 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
On 5/30/20 12:00 AM, Xi Ruoyao via lfs-dev wrote: On 2020-05-15 15:09 +0800, Xi Ruoyao via lfs-dev wrote: On 2020-05-11 23:05 +0800, Xi Ruoyao via lfs-dev wrote: On 2020-05-11 09:19 -0500, Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev wrote: On 5/11/20 8:23 AM, Pierre Labastie via lfs-dev wrote: On Mon, 2020-05

Re: [lfs-dev] test results with locale-archive symlink and vim-8.2.0814 (trunk book)

2020-05-26 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
On 5/26/20 7:49 AM, Pierre Labastie via lfs-dev wrote: [snip] I have changed mounting /dev/pts as --bind. We should allow the possibility to revert if we find out that some distros have gid!=5 for tty. It removes one failure in coreutils tests. I have changed the way to su to nobody for bash.

Re: [lfs-dev] Automake: skip tags-lisp-space.sh

2020-05-21 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
On 5/21/20 5:41 PM, Ken Moffat via lfs-dev wrote: At the moment we have a known failure in automake-1.16.2, tags-lisp-space.sh. This fails because etags is not present. The test tagsub similarly wants to use etags, but for that the test is skipped. The difference is that tagsub has required=

Re: [lfs-dev] Why is the /toolchain symlink on the host system even needed?

2020-05-19 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
On 5/19/20 2:25 PM, Akira Urushibata via lfs-dev wrote: Is there any problem with making a new directory at the filesystem base level? In theory there could be a distribution which already has a /tool directory. But I have never heard of that. What alternatives are there to /tool ? If /tool i

Re: [lfs-dev] CFLAGS in fixing up for gcc-10.

2020-05-13 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
On 5/13/20 11:33 PM, Ken Moffat via lfs-dev wrote: I notice that in some places people have overridden any existing CFLAGS when adding -fcommon. In most places, for those of us who care the fix is obvious (CFLAGS="$CFLAGS -fcommon"). One or two packages will turn out to be more painful. The fi

Re: [lfs-dev] proposal: some improvements to LFS book

2020-05-11 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
On 5/11/20 8:23 AM, Pierre Labastie via lfs-dev wrote: On Mon, 2020-05-11 at 19:51 +0800, Xi Ruoyao via lfs-dev wrote: I just redone LFS build for GCC-10.1.0. I proposed several improvements during the process: At first, some changes suggested by Firas: 1. Remove bzip2 in Chap. 5. No other c

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