fically. But in general, a work that combines
public-domain material and copyrighted material is itself subject to
copyright, provided the copyrighted material is used under license.
Obviously, if the creator of the combined work and of the copyrighted
material are the same, such a license isn't hard to obta
ompiled from a BSD source are (at least
arguably) under the GPL if other bits in the same executable come from
GPLed source.
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--Julius Caesar
ll to Congress for any reason: whether it
gets
paid is another story. Francis Hopkinson sent a such a bill for designing
the
American flag, asking to be paid a "Quarter Cask of the Public Wine", but
Congress denied it on the grounds that Hopkinson was already a paid membe
> Just to double check, droit d’auteur is the equivalent of moral rights,
> correct?
>
Yes, but it generally extends to all types of works.
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Verbogeny is one of the pleasurettes of a creatific thi
option, and the
EU countries are effectively forbidden to do so by EU case law.
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But the next day there came no dawn, and the Grey Company passed on
into the darkness of the Storm of Mordor and were lost to mortal s
ht of exploitation of all uses known and unknown can be
transferred exclusively, which amounts to the same thing.
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Awk!" sed Grep. "A fscking python is perloining my Ruby; let me bash
him with a Cshell! Vi
tructor discipline a la Haskell).
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with the giants on whose shoulders we stand. --Gerald Holton
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Objective consideration of contemporary phenomena compel the conclusion
that optimum or inadequate performance in the trend of competitive
activities exhibits no tendency to be c
ve terms? WHAT DO THEY
WANT?
Gummint lawyers can be just as fearful of what they don't understand as any
other lawyers. Indeed, their clients probably have more to lose.
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In my last lifetime, I believed in reincarnation;
i
e library. The author can do this because he is
free to violate his own license to create the readline-free version of the
code, but users would not be.
(Nowadays this wouldn't be necessary, as there are drop-in replacements for
readline, but the principle is still the same.)
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fy (some) such ideologues without
alienating others.
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Sound change operates regularly to produce irregularities;
analogy operates irregularly to produce regularities.
--E.H. Sturtevant, c
ot; category, for
what that's worth. The differences as shown by wdiff are chiefly
editorial, with the exception of sections 7 and 8 of the GPLv2, which don't
exist in GPLv1.
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Even a refrigerator can conform to the XML Infoset, as l
ses/tags/OSI-Approved
>
For people who like opinionated wizards, there's also mine, currently
hosted at
<http://vrici.lojban.org/~cowan/floss/>. It asks you questions about what
you want your license to do, and then steers you to the 3-clause BSD, the
Apache 2.0, the GPL 2.0, or the LGPL 2.
separate and unrelated in the two
definitions.) Note also that debian-legal does not control what actually
gets into Debian; that decision is in the hands of the trusted committers.
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There is a Darwinian explanation for the refusal
robably not certify it, but it would still be an
open source license.
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Dievas dave dantis; Dievas duos duonos--Lithuanian proverb
Deus dedit dentes; deus dabit panem --Latin version thereof
Deity dona
leases to those same OEMs.
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off if there's just One Big Network), then you should make the case in your
documentation. Most people use a public blockchain, for good and
sufficient reasons, but there is nothing stopping anyone from setting up
their own blockchains, and people do if they have use for it.
he judges'.
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--Lord Macnaghten (1901)
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from your actual intentions. Eh, ha! You see?'
["Daffy-down-dilly" was 16C legal slang for a lawyer who took money from
both sides of a litigation, and as such a very serious charge indeed,
tending to produce a breach of the peac
yright
interest, because he selected which of Charlie's words to use. Since Bob
typically has more money than Charlie, this works out to the advantage of
both Bob and Charlie.
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Your worships will perhaps be thinking tha
On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 1:05 PM, Massimo Zaniboni <
massimo.zanib...@asterisell.com> wrote:
Probably I'm wrong, but I'm curious to understand where. So if someone has
> the patience to read the post, can report here a fault part of my
> reasoning, so I can understand better and maybe discuss?
ta-driven list will merely reflect the
prejudices and fashions, not even of today, but of the past,
since open-source software once published rarely disappears.
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Using RELAX NG compact syntax to develop schemas is o
it being economically inefficient to sue a huge list of
known and unknown customers, not a derogation of their right to do so.
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Knowledge studies others / Wisdom is self-known;
Muscle masters brothers / Self-mastery
ally the right to prevent use by anyone else,
how can they say "Use it" when they mean "If you use it and Yoyodyne sues
you for infringement of our (original) patent, it's your problem"?
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Kill Gorgun! K
have issued? Apprarently so. At that point several of us pointed out
that the much older MIT license already contained a universal patent grant;
the MIT folks said "We never meant it to."
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We call nothing profound that is
the 2-clause BSD license, does *not* grant a patent license.
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Higglédy-pigglèdy / XML programmers
Try to escape those / I-eighteen-N woes;
Incontrovertibly / What we need more of is
Unicode weenies and / Franç
(if you read it literally) or grants all rights (if you interpret the magic
word "use" as referring to patents).
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One of the oil men in heaven started a rumor of a gusher down in hell. All
the other oil men left in a
the quotes are chosen at random by a script
from <http://vrici.lojban.org/~cowan/signatures>, but sometimes I choose one
on purpose. I've been collecting and using them for 30+ years.
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erm of
zero years in its home country, so it has a copyright term of zero years
here." Or it might apply its local law as if the work were a local work.
Or it might do something else. Conflicts law is still rather primitive
and unpredictable.
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o had quitted
a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at
last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man
behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an _attorney_'."
--Boswell's Life of Johnson
:-)
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Lawrence Rosen scripsit:
> Is this a resurrection of the old "license vs. contract" dispute that
> we buried long ago?
That is not dead which can eternal lie (see .sig).
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La mayyitan ma qadirun yatabaqqa
behind a paywall, I'd like to read more
> of it.
Me too. Ask a lawyer friend to send you a copy (and me, while you're at it).
My father's preprint copy moldered away a long time ago.
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Business before pleasure, if not t
A's country,
or any other country, of course. But they don't have to, which is what
makes conflicts cases so interesting to a sufficiently geeky mind. And a
country can certainly grant more rights to A than a treaty requires it to.
See T. A. Cowan, "Marks of Primitivity in the Conflict of La
rce.org/wiki/Copyright_Law_Revision_(Senate_Report_No._94-473)
uses exactly the same words.
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Ambassador Trentino: I've said enough. I'm a man of few words.
Rufus T. Firefly: I'm a man of one word: scram!
copyright holder" so that the license can be
applied to works made as a whole or in part by contractors.
The Appendix still says "Apache License".
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If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants were stand
case, and perhaps it wouldn't
be approved today.
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on my shoulders. --Hal Abelson
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> break the magical spell of OSI compliance which zlib normally has?
I don't see how.
I am not a lawyer; this is not legal advice. On the other hand, it is not
the unauthorized practice of law, either.
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Is
national law.
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facto standard is pretty slack, you could find your own out of
print books from a few years back being treated as "orphaned" because
you didn't see the ad in the _East Grong Grong Sheep Ranchers' Weekly_
asking the author to write to P.O. Box 42 at once.
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an owner to revoke a bare license is inherent, it must be a promise
not to exercise that right, and on what meeting of the minds, what
consideration is that promise founded? Looks like a nudum pactum to me.
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Is it not w
erely a promise (which may or may not rise to a contract)
not to try to punish the doers of those things.
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A male Jang appeared at my side. "Get a grip on yourself," he said.
"Get a grip on your graks," I
nyone?
Who knows what secret source, or sauce, might underlie the current binary
releases of Java? (The Shadow knows.)
IANA, TINLA, but this is not UPL either.
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Yes, chili in the eye is bad, but so is your ear. However, I would
uld cry too if it happened to
you. (Well, *you* wouldn't, Larry, because you know better than to die
intestate, but in general, it's a problem.)
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The Imperials are decadent, 300 pound free-range chickens (except they have
teeth
cts for GPL software. Don't contract
> away your free software. I've never seen anyone actually try to do that,
> which is why I'm confused by John Cowan's comment.
I haven't heard of it either, but that may only be only because people
don't usually announce that they've been snooker
show that the work was available under a proprietary
license to allow you to download it and do those things.
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How they ever reached any conclusion at all is starkly unknowable
to the human mind.--"Backstage Le
are in the U.S. (you didn't say).
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WELCOME TO censored
DATE: MONDAK, JANUARK 1, 1900
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Almost certainly not. Before open-source Java systems existed, the
FSF discouraged people from writing free Java apps, but didn't deny
that an app released under a free license was free. See
http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/java-trap.en.html; there is no longer
a Java trap, of course.
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to do with
license compatibility within the aggregation, and everything to do with
what guarantees ASF (or any similar publisher) wishes to provide to its
customers.
I happen to think that their A, B, and X lists make a lot of sense and
are substantially correct.
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a book by its cover or a clause by its title.
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My confusion is rapidly waxing
For XML Schema's too taxing:
I'd use DTDs / If they had local trees --
I think I best switch to RELAX NG
Grahame Grieve scripsit:
other licenses cannot be known to be or other licenses may not be - but
you can't outright claim that just because OSI has not approved a license,
it's *not* open source
+1
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Not to perambulate
that the error was a libel _per se_. The Supremes decided that
while all men are presumed to know the law (for it is an excuse that every
man will pleaed, and no man know how to refute), there was no reason
for a New York corporation to know Florida law as well as all that.
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obvious that Citrix should have known about it.
None of this even hints that an engineer reading a patent and commenting
on it in a NOTICE file is a risky behavior.
I think it does hint at it, for the reason I give above.
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to be incorporated in a larger proprietary work, whereas a
strong copyleft license does not (at least in the FSF's opinion).
This seems an appropriate distinction for general use.
Neither of these should be confused with Grave and Perilous Licenses.
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to avoid in a
very short, non-weak copyleft licence. I'd be keen to be proven wrong
on that point, though.
Simply add or under the GNU General Purpose License (any version).
In practice, the GPL is the only major copyleft software commons.
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directly. If someone felt like
proposing something like 2-clause BSD + the above, I for one would
welcome it. Unlike the GPL, this does not create a new and
distinct software commons.
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Police in many lands are now complaining
they do may violate some patent somewhere.
No need to stir up deep, muddy waters.
I am not a lawyer; this is not legal advice. This is not the unauthorized
practice of law, either.
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'Tis the Linux rebellion / Let coders take
. If the license were
printed on the cover, the supposed buyer would be in a pickle
trying to prove that paying the price didn't constitute acceptance
of the license.
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The Penguin shall hunt and devour all that is crufty, gnarly
Pamela Chestek scripsit:
Do you have an example where paying for a tangible article has been
construed by a court as contractual acceptance of a restrictive term
printed on it?
Isn't boxed software a tangible article? If the box doesn't count, the
CD/DVD surely does.
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I hope not, but the Supremes seem to have left the question vague.
In particular, none of these cases have to do with contract restrictions.
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I marvel
).
That happens in the U.S. too. A retailer can get full credit for a
book by returning just the cover, but they are then not entitled to
resell the rest of the book. Exhaustion hasn't kicked in at that
point because the retailer is not an ultimate purchaser.
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exactly once, a boxed set of
Red Hat Linux back in 1999. All the rest has been licensed under
either a proprietary or an open-source license.)
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You're a brave man! Go and break through the lines, and remember while
you're out
. If I sell you the computer, the Windows license
does *not* go with it, nor do I retain it -- it evaporates.
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How they ever reached any conclusion at all is starkly unknowable
to the human mind.--Backstage Lensman
specific, as it
relates to the first sale doctrine.
The first-sale doctrine also applies in the EU under the name of
exhaustion, as well as in Canada and Australia. In the EU, the
product must have been first sold within the EU in order for exhaustion
to kick in.
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law, and now
we're stuck with it.
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But that, he realized, was a foolish thought; as no one knew better than
he that the Wall had no other side.
--Arthur C. Clarke, The Wall of Darkness
corporations who include BSD-licensed
code into their proprietary software, and then offer warranties on
that software. If it's good enough for them, it should probably
be good enough for you.
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A mosquito cried out in his pain
of the license terms?
But it isn't a condition.
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No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the
continent, a part of the main. If a clod be washed away by the sea,
Europe is the less, as well
of warranty. Alice may disclaim all warranties on
something she gives Bob, but Charlie's warranties aren't affected
by this disclaimer.
IANAL; TINLA; this is not UPOL.
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Mark Twain on Cecil Rhodes: I admire him, I freely admit
.
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I cannot imagine any open source license (other than un-templated ones with
hard-coded licensors) that *cannot* work as an inbound license. Does
anyone have counterexamples?
I totally support campaigning for inbound=outbound and DCO,
What does DCO mean in this context?
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unable or
unwilling to licence it under the new licence.
Or so people believe, anyway, and tend to act as if true. At least some
people think that a co-author can relicense ad libitum at least under
U.S. copyright law.
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your point.
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have been vaccinated with a phonograph needle.
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of the OSD is that the object
of discussion is a public software license.
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you're out there risking life and limb through shot and shell,
we'll be in here
grant you the rights to do
X provided A and B are the case and C is not the case. That doesn't
sound in contract as far as I can see: it's got the flavor of a bare
license to trespass on land.
[.sig below chosen at random!]
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an Adaptation of
the CC-BY work. No, it doesn't require anything more onerous than
the Apache License for the mere incorporation of that work into
a Collection.
Are you talking about CC-BY or CC-(BY-)-SA?
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is to be disproved, it must be shown that
it violates some clause of the OSD. This is distinct from the prudence
or otherwise of certifying the license.
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It was dreary and wearisome. Cold clammy winter still held sway
is not.
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he that the Wall had no other side.
--Arthur C. Clarke, The Wall of Darkness
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treat patents.
I stand corrected.
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Any legal document draws most of its meaning from context. A telegram
that says 'SELL HUNDRED THOUSAND SHARES IBM SHORT' (only 190 bits in
5-bit Baudot code plus appropriate headers
claim to indemnify
a recipient against all possible patents. At most we can ask that
the licensor himself license those which he has.
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A rabbi whose congregation doesn't want to drive him out of town isn't
a rabbi, and a rabbi who
. It's already fully templated
(except for the name, which is inessential), and U.S. government employees
should be urged to use it.
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Most people are much more ignorant about language than they are about
[other subjects
Henrik Ingo scripsit:
Does the US government grant itself patents, and if so, what does it do
with those patents?
In the case of 6630507, they apply criminal sanctions to people who
seek to make use of the patented technology. Google for [patent 6630507].
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-source licenses.
I continue to think that our CC0 decision was wrong insofar as it can
be read as saying that the CC0 license is not an open-source (as opposed
to OSI Certified) license. There may be reasons not to certify it,
but not to deny that it is open source.
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of anything resembling
a standards-setting organization for it.) By the same token, the GPL is
a standard open-source license and the Motosoto Open Source License is
not, though both are equally OSI certified.
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In politics
Richard Fontana scripsit:
You'd exclude the most commonly-used FLOSS license from common?
Well, the most common license is probably GPLV2+, not GPLV2-only.
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warrants the
software under terms specified elsewhere.
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a way of life. --Joseph Zitt
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I thought that was precisely why we rejected it.
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are very similar to the Mozilla Public License.
The other two are not Open Source licenses, but specifically defer to the
ZPL and other Open Source licenses in respect of any software released
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Consider
are available under the proprietary license.
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If they had local trees --
I think I best switch to RELAX NG
don't think official positions have much
utility.
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One sentence (two stanzas) / Hexasyllabically
Challenges poets who / Don't have the time
License, the various Microsoft shared-source licenses,
the University of Utah Public License, etc.
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--Connie Francis http://www.ccil.org/~cowan
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Scotland-specific CC-BY license (in English):
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Freedoms (and also for GPL compatibility). They do this without waiting
for submissions. Consequently, it makes sense for them to list both
conforming and non-conforming licenses.
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Thor Heyerdahl recounts his attempt to prove Rudyard
of the software, which makes it a proprietary software
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the rest imaginary
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such a contract for you.
So what are my best options? - Currently looking at BSD/MIT and Apache;
though have seen LGPL+commercial in many places…
Any of those will work.
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the opening of a Colonel Sanders in Beijing means co
Pirmin Braun scripsit:
So I'd like to share our thoughts: Maybe it is possible to add such
an extension to the OSI Open Source Definition? Or create a new class
of approved liceneses?
Not gonna happen. We believe very strongly in non-discrimination among
licensees, and to disadvantage the
: see RFC 3986 Section 4.5.
In any case, a license of adhesion (take it or leave it) is interpreted
against its author, so if they meant shown somewhere in the UI they would
have to say so.
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specific prior written permission.
4. Redistributions in any form must include a pointer to Charles River
Analytics' website (www.cra.com) and probabilistic modeling services.
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are effectively
prevented from making commercial use of the software without paying for
the trademark license, which obviously contravenes clauses 6 and 7 of
the OSD. So this license is on its face not Open Source.
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One Access
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