Re: lingo-l Getting rid of Internal?

2002-10-24 Thread Brennan
On Wed, 23 Oct 2002 16:00:24 -0500, Howdy-Tzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday, October 23, 2002, at 03:10 PM, Kurt Griffin wrote: Brennan has been after this kind of thing at a more meta level for a while - the ability to script Director. If we could script Director, you could

Re: lingo-l Getting rid of Internal?

2002-10-24 Thread Andreas Gaunitz P11
So, in case it is not obvious, the thing is for as many of us as possible to 'wish' for this using the ritual which has become sacred to our brotherhood. (And sisterhood). The incantation for this particular magickal rite is;

Re: lingo-l Getting rid of Internal?

2002-10-24 Thread Brennan
On Thu, 24 Oct 2002 13:58:08 +0200, Andreas Gaunitz P11 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, in case it is not obvious, the thing is for as many of us as possible to 'wish' for this using the ritual which has become sacred to our brotherhood. (And sisterhood). The incantation for this particular

Re: lingo-l Getting rid of Internal?

2002-10-23 Thread Robert Tweed
- Original Message - From: Rob Romanek [EMAIL PROTECTED] a) is no problem, just click on the internal cast to make it the active window, then use the Property Inspector to change the name. D'oh! Why did I think that couldn't be done? I'm certain I must have tried it before sometime...

Re: lingo-l Getting rid of Internal?

2002-10-23 Thread Buzz Kettles
At 12:46 PM +0100 10/23/02, you wrote: - Original Message - From: Rob Romanek [EMAIL PROTECTED] a) is no problem, just click on the internal cast to make it the active window, then use the Property Inspector to change the name. D'oh! Why did I think that couldn't be done? I'm

Re: Wishlist gloom (Was lingo-l Getting rid of Internal?)

2002-10-23 Thread Brennan
On Tue, 22 Oct 2002 09:52:18 -0700, Buzz Kettles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: don't hold your breath on it getting removed I wouldn't bother with wishlist - there's no way your request would get addressed. Buzz, this strikes me as rather gloomy, especially coming from an ex-Macromedia guy. I

Re: Wishlist gloom (Was lingo-l Getting rid of Internal?)

2002-10-23 Thread Howdy-Tzi
On Wednesday, October 23, 2002, at 01:12 PM, Brennan wrote: On Tue, 22 Oct 2002 09:52:18 -0700, Buzz Kettles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: don't hold your breath on it getting removed I wouldn't bother with wishlist - there's no way your request would get addressed. Buzz, this strikes me as

Re: Wishlist gloom (Was lingo-l Getting rid of Internal?)

2002-10-23 Thread Rob Romanek
- Original Message - From: Brennan [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, 22 Oct 2002 09:52:18 -0700, Buzz Kettles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: don't hold your breath on it getting removed I wouldn't bother with wishlist - there's no way your request would get addressed. Buzz, this strikes me

Re: lingo-l Getting rid of Internal?

2002-10-23 Thread Robert Tweed
- Original Message - From: Buzz Kettles [EMAIL PROTECTED] why didn't you notice it when I mentioned it early yesterday ;) 'Cos someone (i.e., you) decided to top and bottom post in the same message ;-) Actually, I just noticed because you mentioned it. At the time I assumed your top

Re: Wishlist gloom (Was lingo-l Getting rid of Internal?)

2002-10-23 Thread Robert Tweed
- Original Message - From: Howdy-Tzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] There are fundamental realities about the Director architecture, and the internal cast is one of them. I think what Buzz is indicating is that it would essentially require a top-down rewrite of the entire Director engine -- while

Re: Wishlist gloom (Was lingo-l Getting rid of Internal?)

2002-10-23 Thread Howdy-Tzi
On Wednesday, October 23, 2002, at 01:59 PM, Robert Tweed wrote: - Original Message - From: Howdy-Tzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] There are fundamental realities about the Director architecture, and the internal cast is one of them. I think what Buzz is indicating is that it would essentially

Re: lingo-l Getting rid of Internal?

2002-10-23 Thread Kurt Griffin
a) is no problem, just click on the internal cast to make it the active window, then use the Property Inspector to change the name. D'oh! Why did I think that couldn't be done? I'm certain I must have tried it before sometime... Something else that might be useful is if you could reorder

Re: lingo-l Getting rid of Internal?

2002-10-23 Thread Howdy-Tzi
On Wednesday, October 23, 2002, at 03:10 PM, Kurt Griffin wrote: Brennan has been after this kind of thing at a more meta level for a while - the ability to script Director. If we could script Director, you could run a script on startmovie that would check to see if the activeCastLib (already

Re: Wishlist gloom (Was lingo-l Getting rid of Internal?)

2002-10-23 Thread Robert Tweed
- Original Message - From: Howdy-Tzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] On what do you base that assessment? Well, there are no dependencies on casts, as such, as far as I am aware. There may be dependencies on members, and there needs to be a default cast (which is the current active cast, not

Re: Wishlist gloom (Was lingo-l Getting rid of Internal?)

2002-10-23 Thread Buzz Kettles
At 8:12 PM +0200 10/23/02, you wrote: On Tue, 22 Oct 2002 09:52:18 -0700, Buzz Kettles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: don't hold your breath on it getting removed I wouldn't bother with wishlist - there's no way your request would get addressed. Buzz, this strikes me as rather gloomy,

Re: Wishlist gloom (Was lingo-l Getting rid of Internal?)

2002-10-23 Thread John Dowdell
At 11:12 AM 10/23/2, Brennan wrote: If macromedia really are ignoring requests and the wishlist, we ought to organize to let the management know our dissatisfaction. We've already seen some kind of response to complaints about poor developer support. I'm not Buzz either, but I read it as Rob

Re: Wishlist gloom (Was lingo-l Getting rid of Internal?)

2002-10-23 Thread Howdy-Tzi
On Wednesday, October 23, 2002, at 04:56 PM, Robert Tweed wrote: - Original Message - From: Howdy-Tzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] On what do you base that assessment? Well, there are no dependencies on casts, as such, as far as I am aware. I think I see what you're saying here; however I

Re: Wishlist gloom (Was lingo-l Getting rid of Internal?)

2002-10-23 Thread Buzz Kettles
At 7:59 PM +0100 10/23/02, you wrote: - Original Message - From: Howdy-Tzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] There are fundamental realities about the Director architecture, and the internal cast is one of them. I think what Buzz is indicating is that it would essentially require a top-down rewrite

Re: Wishlist gloom (Was lingo-l Getting rid of Internal?)

2002-10-23 Thread Robert Tweed
- Original Message - From: Howdy-Tzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, there are no dependencies on casts, as such, as far as I am aware. I think I see what you're saying here; however I believe it's fair to see Director as needing at least one cast in much the same way as it needs a stage

Re: Wishlist gloom (Was lingo-l Getting rid of Internal?)

2002-10-23 Thread Howdy-Tzi
On Wednesday, October 23, 2002, at 06:33 PM, Robert Tweed wrote: That's fine. I never suggested that a movie should have no casts, My misunderstanding then. just that there should be the option to delete the Internal cast after at least one other cast has been added. Or, barring that, to

lingo-l Getting rid of Internal?

2002-10-22 Thread Robert Tweed
Just a small thing that has been annoying me. I've recently started breaking all my code up into libraries (esp. the openLingo library) and putting them in linked casts. It also occured to me that to make LDM's work usefully, I should put *everything* in external casts, so the same code and assets

Re: lingo-l Getting rid of Internal?

2002-10-22 Thread Tab Julius
I'm not aware of a way to get rid of it, and it'd probably break the engine if you did. At 07:09 AM 10/22/02, Robert Tweed wrote: Just a small thing that has been annoying me. I've recently started breaking all my code up into libraries (esp. the openLingo library) and putting them in linked

Re: lingo-l Getting rid of Internal?

2002-10-22 Thread Robert Tweed
- Original Message - From: Tab Julius [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm not aware of a way to get rid of it, and it'd probably break the engine if you did. Well, there shouln't be any physical ties to Internal, specifically, so there should not be any reason to remove it other than an oversight in

Re: lingo-l Getting rid of Internal?

2002-10-22 Thread Buzz Kettles
don't hold your breath on it getting removed At 12:09 PM +0100 10/22/02, you wrote: Just a small thing that has been annoying me. I've recently started breaking all my code up into libraries (esp. the openLingo library) and putting them in linked casts. It also occured to me that to make LDM's

Re: lingo-l Getting rid of Internal?

2002-10-22 Thread Rob Romanek
For anyone else working with LDM's I'll just add that the nice thing about having the LDM code in an external library is that during development you can link your parent movie to the same library and edit the LDM code, hit recompile, you don't even have to save, and see the effects of your

Re: lingo-l Getting rid of Internal?

2002-10-22 Thread Robert Tweed
- Original Message - From: Rob Romanek [EMAIL PROTECTED] As far a ditching the internal library, I find it extremely useful especially with LDMs. I keep the internal library exclusively for creating temporary cast members on the fly. That's a good point: I do that too, but