ics.
On 10/28/2020 11:29 AM, Mittelstädt, David wrote:
Hi Bill,
Thanks for the fast replay. I will read the infos in the given URL tomorrow. We
are using SMT-2. I ran a q multithreading in z/VM and get back Activated
Threads 2 for IFL Core. I'm really interested in the additional infor
607-429-3286
bitn...@us.ibm.com
"Making systems practical and profitable for customers through
virtualization and its exploitation." - z/VM
From: "Mittelstädt, David"
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Date: 10/28/2020 02:29 PM
Subject:[EXTERNAL] AW: [EXTERN]-Re: IFL usa
Hi Bill,
Thanks for the fast replay. I will read the infos in the given URL tomorrow. We
are using SMT-2. I ran a q multithreading in z/VM and get back Activated
Threads 2 for IFL Core. I'm really interested in the additional information.
Thanks.
Regards,
David
-Ursprüngliche Nach
Hello David,
An important aspect of this is whether you are running SMT-2 or not. If you
are, then I recommend you read
https://www.vm.ibm.com/perf/tips/smtutil.html for some background as when
SMT-2 is on we have to take extra care because in that scenario the word
"IFL" is ambiguo
Hi everyone,
I need a little help understanding the values from the z/VM Performance Toolkit
and command line tool hyptop. I want to measure the IFL utilization of a z/VM
guest running linux from a z/VM or hardware perspective, e.g. linux server A
consumes 2 IFL or linux server B consumes 0.5
"zSeries" is twelve years (and at least three rebrandings*) gone, gang. Same
with "pSeries".
That's "IBM Z" and "IBM Power Systems" nowadays.
If you're talking about specific capabilities, it's sort of important to be
precise, eh?
...phsiii
* zSeries=>System z=>z Systems=>IBM Z
(with "zEnterpri
y/index.html
Linkedin Profile
http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/richard-j-moore-fiet-fbcs-ceng-citp/4/4b1/748
Linux on 390 Port wrote on 08/11/2017 02:11:23:
> From: John Campbell
> To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
> Date: 08/11/2017 02:16
> Subject: Re: How many Intel cores does an IFL emulat
oup...@gmail.com
> To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
> Cc:
> Date: Nov 8, 2017, 8:36:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] How many Intel cores does an IFL emulate
>
>
>Come to think of it, I think an IFL is a single zSeries core. z/VM can
> fake it, though that's "
*All* resources have cost attributes. I'm quite sure Netflix, for example,
spends a huge sum on computing resources, although to my knowledge they
don't have a mainframe -- at least not one of their own. (Maybe they
should!) I would also point out that the world's top wealthiest people
often acquir
Thank you for clarifying the threadability of an IFL CP.
I worked w/ a fellow who went to work in one of the labs in Vermont working
on "hyperthreading" for the pSeries CPUs... I seem to recall him talking
about efforts for the zSeries CPs but that seemed a long ask.
-soup
On Wed, N
z/OS supports ZIIPs with SMT-2 as well.
-Original Message-
From: Alan Altmark [mailto:alan_altm...@us.ibm.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2017 5:52 PM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: How many Intel cores does an IFL emulate
Thanks for advertising, Soup! :-)
In fact, IFLs
:
From: soup...@gmail.com
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Cc:
Date: Nov 8, 2017, 8:36:39 PM
Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] How many Intel cores does an IFL emulate
Come to think of it, I think an IFL is a single zSeries core. z/VM can
fake it, though that's "overcommitting" t
Come to think of it, I think an IFL is a single zSeries core. z/VM can
fake it, though that's "overcommitting" the CPU resource.
Despite my NOT looking at the zSeries Principles of Operation I somehow
doubt the zSeries has hyperthreading... as the z/VM OS would be dispatch
t
upgrades? ;-)
Eh? Processors are processors: CP, IFL, zIIP, CF, whatever.
- Processor purchase: CapEx
- Processor rental: OpEx
- Processor recurring maintenance: OpEx
- Software one-time-charge (z/VM): CapEx
- OTC software recurring maintenance: OpEx
- Monthly software charges (z/OS): OpEx
This is why
Hi,
On 08.11.2017 16:42, Alan Altmark wrote:
> On Wednesday, 11/08/2017 at 03:17 GMT, Philipp Kern
> wrote:
>> I idly wonder how actual utilization of IFLs looks like in the field.
>> It's clear to me that CPs run hot because otherwise you're wasting
>> moneys. I.e. if overcommitment is just a fa
On Wednesday, 11/08/2017 at 03:17 GMT, Philipp Kern
wrote:
> I idly wonder how actual utilization of IFLs looks like in the field.
> It's clear to me that CPs run hot because otherwise you're wasting
> moneys. I.e. if overcommitment is just a fact of life like it is in the
> cloud.
I don't follo
Victor,
As others have mentioned, it depends. I often get asked the same question
and usually they want to compare one intel server/application against an IFL
based solution. But without understanding the load characteristics of the
application it's next to impossible to give a clear answer.
y/index.html
Linkedin Profile
http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/richard-j-moore-fiet-fbcs-ceng-citp/4/4b1/748
From: John Campbell
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Date: 08/11/2017 02:16
Subject: Re: How many Intel cores does an IFL emulate
Sent by:Linux on 390 Port
GHz is GHz pri
John Campbell wrote:
>The zSeries is AT LEAST 5 9's hardware.
Philipp Kern wrote:
>Does that matter in today's world? Would you avoid building for failure
>when a lot of the failure comes from software anyway? Do you then host
>multiple Linux VMs on the same iron to account for that? If so, why
>c
blockchain technologies use in the
backgrounds. (The ones that aren't currencies but "just" ledgers.)
> So, like I said above, "it depends".
>
> What's the workload?
>
> What do you need the most "heavy lifting" for?
>
> Mind you, if y
ecification that the vendor supplied is for an intel platform. Does
> anyone know is there a formula to convert intel cpu cores to IFL?
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Victor Echavarry
> >
> > System Programmer
> >
> > Operating Systems
> >
> >
:How many Intel cores does an IFL emulate
Sent by:Linux on 390 Port
We receive a request from a new customer for a z/Linux guest on a BC12. The
specification that the vendor supplied is for an intel platform. Does
anyone know is there a formula to convert intel cpu cores to IFL
a formula to convert intel cpu cores to IFL?
Regards,
Victor Echavarry
System Programmer
Operating Systems
EVERTEC, LLC
WARNING: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and
intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are
addressed. I
new customer for a z/Linux guest on a BC12. The
> specification that the vendor supplied is for an intel platform. Does anyone
> know is there a formula to convert intel cpu cores to IFL?
>
> Regards,
>
> Victor Echavarry
>
> System Programmer
>
les)
IIRC most of the folks doing heavy computing-- like Bitcoin mining-- use
the display adapter's GPU for the heavy lifting, which leaves the zSeries
at a disadvantage.
So, like I said above, "it depends".
What's the workload?
What do you need the most "heavy lifting&quo
We receive a request from a new customer for a z/Linux guest on a BC12. The
specification that the vendor supplied is for an intel platform. Does anyone
know is there a formula to convert intel cpu cores to IFL?
Regards,
Victor Echavarry
System Programmer
Operating Systems
EVERTEC, LLC
[mailto:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Porowski,
Ken
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2016 10:43 AM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: IFL performance reference
LSPR, look at the uni-processor PCI/MIPs
CIT | Ken Porowski | VP Mainframe Engineering | Information Technology | +1 973
740
eceived at this email address.
-Original Message-
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Mrohs,
Ray (JMD)
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2016 10:24 AM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: [LINUX-390] IFL performance reference
Does anyone have a chart that show
Does anyone have a chart that shows relative performance improvements of IFL
processors on a z13 compared to previous mainframes, back to z10?
Thanks for any help.
Ray Mrohs
Lockheed Martin Corporation
Service Delivery Staff
Infrastructure Operations
ray.mr...@usdoj.gov
202 307-6896
Are you asking if you have and IFL and IPL z/VM from it, will it use it? Yes.
Are you running an existing z/VM in a non-IFL LPAR, will z/VM use it? I don't
think so but IBM can be pretty tricky sometimes.
-Original Message-
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.ED
On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 8:21 AM, Alan Altmark
wrote:
> On Tuesday, 07/14/2015 at 09:11 EDT, John McKown
> wrote:
> > > Yes, VM will automatically start using it. If you add the CPU while
> VM is
> > > up, then you may need to issue CP VARY ON PROC.
> > >
> >
> > Interesting. It doesn't need to
Thanks Alan.
-Original Message-
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Alan
Altmark
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2015 9:22 AM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: IFL Question
On Tuesday, 07/14/2015 at 09:11 EDT, John McKown
wrote:
> > Yes, V
On Tuesday, 07/14/2015 at 09:11 EDT, John McKown
wrote:
> > Yes, VM will automatically start using it. If you add the CPU while
VM is
> > up, then you may need to issue CP VARY ON PROC.
> >
>
> Interesting. It doesn't need to be pre-defined in the LPAR definition
on
> the HMC?
The question
On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 8:02 AM, Alan Altmark
wrote:
> On Tuesday, 07/14/2015 at 08:45 EDT, "Walters, Gene P"
> wrote:
> > I know this is a broad question, but When you add an additional
> IFL, does
> > VM automatically start using it? Will all the Linux ins
On Tuesday, 07/14/2015 at 08:45 EDT, "Walters, Gene P"
wrote:
> I know this is a broad question, but When you add an additional
IFL, does
> VM automatically start using it? Will all the Linux instances start
using it?
> Or does some configuration need to be done within VM
I know this is a broad question, but When you add an additional IFL, does
VM automatically start using it? Will all the Linux instances start using it?
Or does some configuration need to be done within VM/Linux to make that happen?
Thanks
On Friday, 02/20/2015 at 04:32 EST, Carlos Bodra - Pessoal
wrote:
> If I IPL Linux in a z/VM mode partition (as a z/VM guest) with CP and
IFL
> allocated to lpar, where Linux will run???
If the guest has virtual IFLs defined as the primary CPU type then
If CPU affinity is ON then
Alan,
If I IPL Linux in a z/VM mode partition (as a z/VM guest) with CP and IFL
allocated to lpar, where Linux will run???
*Carlos Bodra
IBM Certified zEnterprise
Sao Paulo - SP - BRAZIL*
On 20/02/2015 19:09, Alan Altmark
On Friday, 02/20/2015 at 01:05 EST, Steve P
wrote:
> I have a Suse zLinux on an system z Lpar (not under zVM).
> Are there message(s) or indicators at Linux startup that tells me that
I'm
> running on an IFL processor?
You sound like you don't trust the machine, Steve. :-)
Good to know. Thanks!
-Original Message-
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Post
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2015 2:40 PM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: IFL vs Non-IFL processor
>>> On 2/20/2015 at 03:00 PM, Linker Harley
>>> On 2/20/2015 at 03:00 PM, Linker Harley - hlinke
wrote:
> I doubt that they expose the difference between an IFL and a GP (General
> Purpose) engine as an IFL, basically, is a GP engine loaded with different
> microcode (to prevent the engine from being able to run z/
>>> On 2/20/2015 at 03:12 PM, Michael MacIsaac wrote:
> How about QUERY CPUS:
>
> # *vmcp q cpus*
> CPU 00 ID FF07777777188000 (BASE)* IFL* CPUAFF ON
Would be a nice trick in an LPAR. ;)
Mark
--
Fo
I doubt that they expose the difference between an IFL and a GP (General
Purpose) engine as an IFL, basically, is a GP engine loaded with different
microcode (to prevent the engine from being able to run z/OS). It is a full
speed engine where a GP engine can be slowed down, via microcode, to
How about QUERY CPUS:
# *vmcp q cpus*
CPU 00 ID FF0777188000 (BASE)* IFL* CPUAFF ON
On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 2:01 PM, Michael O'Reilly wrote:
>
> Steve,
>
>You might be able to tell with "hyptop" under Linux, from the "man"
> pa
quot; command line option. The calculation of the CPU data only
uses CPUs of the specified types.
On LPAR the following CPU types are supported:
'IFL' - Integrated Facility for Linux
'CP' - CP processor type
'UN' - Unspecifi
>>> On 2/20/2015 at 01:26 PM, Steve P wrote:
> I have installed zVm with zLinux under it on a System z Lpar with IFL
> processors before. I could verify that the IFLs were being used with zvm
> commands.
>
> With this one, I know we have an IFL that has been dedicat
On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 12:26 PM, Steve P wrote:
> I have installed zVm with zLinux under it on a System z Lpar with IFL
> processors before. I could verify that the IFLs were being used with zvm
> commands.
>
> With this one, I know we have an IFL that has been dedicated to thi
I have installed zVm with zLinux under it on a System z Lpar with IFL
processors before. I could verify that the IFLs were being used with zvm
commands.
With this one, I know we have an IFL that has been dedicated to this Lpar.
I was just curious if there are messages or commands within the
>>> On 2/20/2015 at 01:02 PM, Steve P wrote:
> I have a Suse zLinux on an system z Lpar (not under zVM).
> Are there message(s) or indicators at Linux startup that tells me that I'm
> running on an IFL processor?
Not that I'm aware of. I believe the only way to
I have a Suse zLinux on an system z Lpar (not under zVM).
Are there message(s) or indicators at Linux startup that tells me that I'm
running on an IFL processor?
Thanks,
Steve
--
For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / ar
> There are no conditions in which a CPU's type is unknown. Rather, it's a bug
> in hyptop.
If anyone actually tries to use this, note that the version of hyptop I was
running is quite old. I did not test whether newer versions fix this behavior.
---
IFL ?
Sent by:Linux on 390 Port
Hi Chuck - can you elaborate? When do you need such precise
measurements?
What are the measurements used for? Just interested if this is more of
a
'test' (as in load tests) or a production implementation.
Scott Rohling
On Mon, Jul 14,
may be able to
find out.
IBM does not publish the specifications for DIAGNOSE 0x204, as its
behavior is machine-specific, but, yes, it works in an LPAR.
> There is one catch that I know of, besides CP and IFL, there is also an
unknown
> processor type. When I run hyptop under z/VM 6.3 and
gt; http://www.almaden.ibm.com/cs/people/triblet
>
>
>
> From: Mike Shorkend
> To: LINUX-390@vm.marist.edu,
> Date: 07/12/2014 03:46 PM
> Subject:Re: Running on CP or IFL ?
> Sent by:Linux on 390 Port
>
>
>
> Is anybody doing that? Running Li
From: Mike Shorkend
To: LINUX-390@vm.marist.edu,
Date: 07/12/2014 03:46 PM
Subject:Re: Running on CP or IFL ?
Sent by:Linux on 390 Port
Is anybody doing that? Running Linux natively in an LPAR?
If yes, why?
On 12 July 2014 01:45, Marcy Cortes wrote:
> "
> There must be some way to determine. At least when using hyptop in LPAR, it
> tells the number of available IFL and CP in the top line.
I have looked at the source of hyptop and it reads the information from
debugfs, namely from these two files:
/sys/kernel/debug/s390_hypfs/diag_204
Is anybody doing that? Running Linux natively in an LPAR?
If yes, why?
On 12 July 2014 01:45, Marcy Cortes wrote:
> " It can't be used natively in an LPAR."
>
> Who'd want to do that anyway! :)
>
> Marcy
>
> --
> For LINUX-39
" It can't be used natively in an LPAR."
Who'd want to do that anyway! :)
Marcy
--
For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,
send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit
On Friday, 07/11/2014 at 12:33 EDT, Marcy Cortes
wrote:
> I haven't read the doc, but VM65419 offers a new STHYI instruction to
help with
> this problem.
Like the IUCV (B2F0) instruction, STHYI (B256) is z/VM-only. It can't be
used natively in an LPAR.
Alan Altmark
Senior Managing z/VM and Lin
work in a VM environment, but we still have a
> problem in the LPAR environmentt.
There must be some way to determine. At least when using hyptop in
LPAR, it tells the number of available IFL and CP in the top line.
Berthold
--
-
instances), or
very indirect (different pricing for zIIPs and zAAPS), but the effect is
similar. In this case the customer just said: " The license model is
'per-IFL', so we need to identify the IFL in question (and obviously
determine that it *is* an IFL. If not an IFL, then our
urbs me. What would software (as
> opposed to a licence agreement) do with explicit information about CPU
> type? The capacity of an IFL is the full capacity of the process type,
> without regard to model. That is, it is unaffected by the subcapacity
> constraints placed on the CPs.
I wo
This is from a RHEL 6.3 guest of z/VM running in a z114 LPAR with one IFL and
no other types of engines:
#cat /proc/cpuinfo
vendor_id : IBM/S390
# processors: 1
bogomips per cpu: 2049.00
features: esan3 zarch stfle msa ldisp eimm dfp etf3eh highgprs
processor 0: version = FF
On Friday, 07/11/2014 at 11:19 EDT, John McKown
wrote:
> I _believe_ that "primary-CPU type" means "general CP" and
> "secondary-CPU types" refer to "specialty engines" such as IFL, zIIP,
> and zAAP. But I cannot find any confirmation of this.
--Original Message-
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of John
McKown
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 9:17 AM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] Running on CP or IFL ?
On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 10:54 AM, Mike Hammock wrote:
> Thanks John, I was tryin
n a
> zVM - Linux environment you might be able to assume that any non-CP
> processor is an IFL, but sure as anything, someone would have a reasonable
> exception to that.
>
> Thanks,
> Mike
If STSI doesn't return information on non-CP engines, I have _NO_ idea
where z/OS (and z/VM)
1:59 AM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: Running on CP or IFL ?
Thanks Bruce... I read descriptions of both Q V CPUs and Q PROC but obviously
did a "compare and swap" or something such in writing my post.
Thanks for the correction.
So VMCP Q V CPUs would work in a VM environmen
anks,
Mike
--
From: "Bruce Hayden"
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 9:18 AM
To:
Subject: Re: Running on CP or IFL ?
vmcp q proc is a privileged command, so hopefully that command isn't
allowed in Linux! But 'vmcp q v cpus' is, and it s
processor is an IFL, but sure as anything, someone would have a reasonable
exception to that.
Thanks,
Mike
--
From: "John McKown"
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 11:17 AM
To:
Subject: Re: Running on CP or IFL ?
I'm on a z/OS only system wi
e of the one or more CPUs rep-
resented by the TLE. The CPU-type value specifies
either a primary-CPU type or any one of the possible
secondary-CPU types.
I _believe_ that "primary-CPU type" means "general CP" and
"secondary-CPU types" refer to "specialty engines&qu
not have a
> good answer, so I figured I'd go to the experts on this list
>
> If I'm running in a zLinux system, how can I "best" determine whether I'm
> running on a CP or an IFL? The purpose of this is to determine/set
> licensing information so the
I have been asked a question by one of our zPDT users and did not have a good
answer, so I figured I'd go to the experts on this list
If I'm running in a zLinux system, how can I "best" determine whether I'm
running on a CP or an IFL? The purpose of this is t
Barton,
Thank you.
-Original Message-
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Barton
Robinson
Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 12:45 PM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: Dedicated IFL shows 100% busy running essentially nothing
dedicated IFL's o
and s RMFIII Overview/CPC Summary
screen) of a sandbox VM system not running any guest machines, Linux, etc. but
is running with one *dedicated* IFL.
Here is the question: Why does the HMC show 1% busy and the other two show 100
logical busy and 50% physical busy?
The other IFL is running two VMs
My VM/Linux guy came to me with a several disparate displays (a HMC Activity
Display, a TMONMVS LPAR Summary screen and s RMFIII Overview/CPC Summary
screen) of a sandbox VM system not running any guest machines, Linux, etc. but
is running with one *dedicated* IFL.
Here is the question: Why
Hi,
We are implementing a DataGuard solution to sync data with our DR system.
Does anyone have any idea how much capacity a single z10 EC IFL at the DR end
(ie: the DataGuard receiving system) would be able to handle, eg: redo log
rates in GB/hour?
The IFL would be running Oracle 11.2.0.3.2
rvers. At times, we definitely maxed out our z/890, but this was
usually due to an errant process running out of control or a large email
delivery on Listserv. For the most part we hovered between 45-65% CPU with a
2.1:1 virtual:real memory ratio with 18G central and 2G expanded storage on 1
IFL. We
up or down over time as I add virtual
servers, use up spare capacity, buy more capacity, shut down virtual
servers (ok, so that really never happens) etc. So, I'm not just
looking for a point in time ratio - but more of what the ratio looks
like over 6 to 12 months.
I also totally agree that no
John,
I've built the cost model and justification for zLinux at BB&T and can
share with you what I have. Feel free to contact me directly at
rbur...@bbandt.com. I can send you some spreadsheets and other info.
We have 2 z10 EC machines and 4 zVM LPARs - 1 prod LPAR on each of the
z10s, 1 test
ring.
>
> 2. Our I/O subsystem. Mainframes with ficon/FCP, can drive (per IBM
> documentation) drive hundreds of thousands of I/Os per second. If you only
> need a few hundred I/Os per second, well, that is within PC ranges.
>
> 3. Licensing is a two edge sword. Putting 5 copies o
v.uk]
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 18:07
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: How many virtual servers per IFL?
Here we go again!
Without success, we've been trying to get the IT department here to adopt
z/Linux since 2003!
Our zVM licence has been recently cancelled, and I have just had
. Putting 5 copies of Oracle on an IFL...you
only pay for one copy. However, if you have many, one copy products, you end
up needing more engines on the IFL, which (if you get charged by the engine),
causes those product charges to increase.
4. Disk is disk. It costs the same whether your
7;t need to size for the total peak load. So 10 '1 IFL' servers
can run in perhaps only a 2 IFL LPAR. It also means that you can add
servers without the immediate need for additional hardware. Note that
the utilization is both CPU and storage. You should monitor both CPU and
storag
-390] How many virtual servers per IFL?
If you are comparing VM and VMware, I would estimate that 1 IFL will
support about the same load as 5-10 HP blades running ESX. How many
virtual severs will VMware support? Depending on the workload sometimes
only 1 sometimes 70 per ESX. How many will V
If you are comparing VM and VMware, I would estimate that 1 IFL will
support about the same load as 5-10 HP blades running ESX. How many
virtual severs will VMware support? Depending on the workload sometimes
only 1 sometimes 70 per ESX. How many will VM support? Between a few and
a thousand per
ation costs with VMware!
One problem of trying to get a cost per virtual server was always trying to
estimate how many servers an IFL will support. We had a 13 SuSe servers defined
in a z800 IFL but as they were hardly used we couldn't measure a thing!
So are there any rules of thumb out th
or government initiative expressly permitting the use of e-mail for such
purpose.
From:
Ron Wells
To:
LINUX-390@vm.marist.edu
Date:
02/03/2010 10:33 AM
Subject:
z/VM; zLinux; SuSE SLES10; JAVA/64Bit; WAS 7.0 FP5; Slow Initialization of
WAS with High CPU on IFL
The subject pretty much says it
ilto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of
Ron Wells
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 10:32 AM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: z/VM; zLinux; SuSE SLES10; JAVA/64Bit; WAS 7.0 FP5; Slow
Initialization of WAS with High CPU on IFL
The subject pretty much says it all.
When we startup/initialize WAS Version
The subject pretty much says it all.
When we startup/initialize WAS Version 7 the IFL goes to max CPU, the
elapsed time for WAS initialization is 5 minutes to 8 minutes.
This is just during WAS initialization. The application that are being
built and run there appear to work fine in the
Been there, done that.
John McKown wrote:
On Tue, 21 Oct 2008, Rich Smrcina wrote:
Tom Duerbusch wrote:
Just wondering about the price for a second IFL.
$47,500.
--
Rich Smrcina
Just to satisfy my curiousity. Can anybody relate the cost/performance of
a z890 IFL vs. a z10BC IFL
>> Just wondering about the price for a second IFL.
> $47,500.
Rich: To be clear, the "list" price of an IFL (or zIIP or zAAP)
on a z9 BC was $95,000 USD and now on the z10 BC they are $47,500
USD.
Jim
-
>>> On 10/22/2008 at 9:41 AM, in message
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, John McKown
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
-snip-
> Just to satisfy my curiousity. Can anybody relate the cost/performance of
> a z890 IFL vs. a z10BC IFL? Something along the lines of "A z10BC IFL is 3
&
On Tue, 21 Oct 2008, Rich Smrcina wrote:
> Tom Duerbusch wrote:
> > Just wondering about the price for a second IFL.
> >
>
> $47,500.
> --
>
> Rich Smrcina
Just to satisfy my curiousity. Can anybody relate the cost/performance of
a z890 IFL vs. a z10BC IFL? Somethi
Tom Duerbusch wrote:
Just wondering about the price for a second IFL.
$47,500.
--
Rich Smrcina
VM Assist, Inc.
Phone: 414-491-6001
Ans Service: 360-715-2467
rich.smrcina at vmassist.com
http://www.linkedin.com/in/richsmrcina
Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org
WAVV 2009 - Orlando, FL
The announcement said specialty engines are $47,000, not including ICFs.
--
For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,
send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit
http://www.mari
The new z10 BC is stated at doing about 50% more workload at half the price.
On the z890, the list price for an IFL was $125K.
I seem to recall that the list price for an IFL on the z9 BC was somewhere
around $96K (anyone know?)
So, would that make the list price for an IFL on a z10 BC under
I didn't need a full throughput benchmark, nor did I need to benchmark the I/O
subsystem or the tape drives. The boss asked a specific question about the CPU
power. I found a program that answered his question to his complete
satisfaction. Now if he had asked for a throughput benchmark, an orchestr
upgrade our processor, just after our Performance and Capacity Planning
group was disbanded. So on an idle system, this just gets into memory
and runs with a high Total/Virtual CPU ratio. On my z890 IFL, 20
iterations takes about 8.571 sec virtual, 8.578 sec total and 8.944 sec
elapsed time.
Find a
Yeah, I'm fresh out of whatever. And I'm running a bit low on stuff,
thingummies, and whatsits, too.
Jon
Not everyone has the time, budget, management patience, or whatever to
do what is needed to get around that.
--
For L
Here is good site that lists some performance guesstimates. Remember
that the specialty engines run at full speed. So in the case of a z/9 EC
the
IFL can be compared to the engine on the model 701, on your z/900 the
engine can be compared to the model 101,1C1 or 2C1 depending on your
current model
1 - 100 of 383 matches
Mail list logo
