Re: Submitting Debs

2003-03-10 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Eli Segal wrote: I don't know how well Abiword works out of the box in sid but now you have to compile it with bidi, and take a long root to install the fonts for it i'm using debian sarge Then your quest can almost end now. Since Sid packages are probably compiled with Hebrew support

Re: Insta Party!

2003-03-10 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 12:45:07PM +0200, Orr Dunkelman wrote: Yes. We are going to hold an insta-party. this Wed. (12/3, sorry for the short notice), starting 16:00, Technion. And taking place on Thursday, 16:00-21:00 as well. Same place. As a side note, Hamakor will finally be

Re: Submitting Debs

2003-03-10 Thread Eli Segal
On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 08:54:46AM +0200, Eli Segal wrote: On Sun, Mar 09, 2003 at 09:25:28AM +0200, Eli Segal wrote: I am also interested to know how exactly are you compiling the packages. Please give as detailed instructions as possible. well to get hebrew on licq, i need

Re: Insta Party!

2003-03-10 Thread Beni Cherniavsky
On 2003-03-10, Orr Dunkelman wrote: Yes. We are going to hold an insta-party. this Wed. (12/3, sorry for the short notice), starting 16:00, Technion. Aha! That's why I missed all previous ones - I wasn't subscribed to linux-il :-). Seriously, there is some visibility problem - by the time

Re: Announce: Hspell 0.4

2003-03-10 Thread Matan Ninio
I'm very happy to here this. I would be even happier if I would understand what I need to do to get this to work with my bidi-emacs. Have you looked into the possibility of interfacing with emacs ispell like? being the center of the computational creation, the One True Editor is an excellent

Re: Insta Party!

2003-03-10 Thread Adir Abraham
On Mon, 10 Mar 2003, Beni Cherniavsky wrote: I want to help installing rather than get installed :-) - do I register in the same form? Should I bring anything? Just give us your details, send an email to me ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and orr ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and tell us when you can arrive

Re: Insta Party!

2003-03-10 Thread Ira Abramov
Quoting Beni Cherniavsky, from the post of Mon, 10 Mar: this Wed. (12/3, sorry for the short notice), starting 16:00, Technion. Aha! That's why I missed all previous ones - I wasn't subscribed to linux-il :-). Seriously, there is some visibility problem - by the in theory there is a

Re: 012 adsl limitation ?

2003-03-10 Thread Tomer Dagan
Sorry for the laziness, but I'll appricate if you can drop the iptable's line which set the ppp's mtu to the clients. Thanks, Tomer. Dani Arbel wrote: Hi Everyone, Lately I have fixed a problem with ADSL and internal network that had the nature of being non consistant (e.g. coming and

Re: 012 adsl limitation ?

2003-03-10 Thread Dani Arbel
Hi! The FORWARD table: (full example script is in http://damyen.technion.ac.il/~dani # We forward for established sessions $IPTABLES -A FORWARD -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT # The following line will ensure that tcp connections from the masqueraded net # are set with the correct

Re: Insta Party!

2003-03-10 Thread Alon Altman
On Mon, 10 Mar 2003, Beni Cherniavsky wrote: On 2003-03-10, Orr Dunkelman wrote: We are going to install: RH 8.0. Is it a bare RH8 or are some extra/newer packages installed? It would at least make sense to ensure good Hebrew. I'll bring a CD of updates that will be installed to anyone

Re: egged.co.il works

2003-03-10 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Hi all, I am meeting the person in charge of the internet infrastructures for Leumi Bank in about two weeks. This is someone who seem ready to listen (though it doesn't sound as if it is going to be easy to convince), and has the authority to order a change if he is convinced. Now I need

RE: egged.co.il works

2003-03-10 Thread Assaf Flatto
here are some 1 ) the market is slowly moving toward Linux and so are the people using the online banking , by blocking the site to the primary browser I that environment - you may be damaging your clients and alienating them . 2 )The first direct bank ( hayashir harishon ) is a subsidiary of

Re: egged.co.il works

2003-03-10 Thread Ira Abramov
Quoting Shachar Shemesh, from the post of Mon, 10 Mar: I am meeting the person in charge of the internet infrastructures for Leumi Bank in about two weeks. This is someone who seem ready to listen (though it doesn't sound as if it is going to be easy to convince), and has the authority to

Re: egged.co.il works

2003-03-10 Thread Gleb Natapov
Hi all, I am meeting the person in charge of the internet infrastructures for Leumi Bank in about two weeks. This is someone who seem ready to listen (though it doesn't sound as if it is going to be easy to convince), and has the authority to order a change if he is convinced. Now I

Re: egged.co.il works

2003-03-10 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Mon, 10 Mar 2003, Gleb Natapov wrote: If the fact that I am the client of Leumi Bank and an important service of the bank is not accessible for me because of some stupid management decisions doesn't sound convincing enough for him I seriously doubt you can convince him by any other

Re: egged.co.il works

2003-03-10 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Ok, let me play devil's advocate here, then. Assaf Flatto wrote: here are some 1 ) the market is slowly moving toward Linux and so are the people using the online banking , by blocking the site to the primary browser I that environment - you may be damaging your clients and alienating them .

Re: egged.co.il works

2003-03-10 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Gabor Szabo wrote: Maybe if you say that: I am NOT a client of Leumi because an important service of the bank is not accessible for me would be more convincing ? Gabor I will certanly say that the Amuta has a bank account at Hapoalim because they support Linux. The thing is that it is

Re: egged.co.il works

2003-03-10 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Mon, 10 Mar 2003, Shachar Shemesh wrote: I think I will have a case, unless he pulls some activex from the hat that does authentication. I can still claim that the old site is around, and that one hole is enough, but that will leave me with a poor case. You mean there might be an activex

Re: egged.co.il works

2003-03-10 Thread Daniel Vainsencher
For a person that actually cares about accessing his bank account via the web, being able to do so from the software he uses is very important. I wouldn't change to a bank that forced me to move physically just to get information or give orders. And being exposed to the security concerns related

Re: egged.co.il works

2003-03-10 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
Shachar Shemesh wrote: Hi all, I am meeting the person in charge of the internet infrastructures for Leumi Bank in about two weeks. This is someone who seem ready to listen (though it doesn't sound as if it is going to be easy to convince), and has the authority to order a change if he is

Re: egged.co.il works

2003-03-10 Thread herouth
Quoting Ira Abramov [EMAIL PROTECTED]: users on linux blind users users on palm Is Palm standards-compliant? Last that I heard of it it had terrible Hebrew problems. sticking to standards means it will work on older browsers as well (MSIE 4 and 5 anyone?) Which standards do you mean?

Re: egged.co.il works

2003-03-10 Thread Alon Altman
On Mon, 10 Mar 2003, Shachar Shemesh wrote: Hi all, I am meeting the person in charge of the internet infrastructures for Leumi Bank in about two weeks. This is someone who seem ready to listen (though it doesn't sound as if it is going to be easy to convince), and has the authority to

Re: egged.co.il works

2003-03-10 Thread Eli Billauer
Ah, your advocacy is for a *simpler* site, not a *standard* site. These two things are different. Do we want to put the effort in convincing the man to give up his gadgets and toys? IMHO, this is the best thing we have to come with. I would go for simplicity means business. A bank shouldn't

Re: egged.co.il works

2003-03-10 Thread Ira Abramov
please don't CC: me, I read the first one just fine. [EMAIL PROTECTED], from the post of Mon, 10 Mar: Quoting Ira Abramov [EMAIL PROTECTED]: users on linux blind users users on palm Is Palm standards-compliant? Last that I heard of it it had terrible Hebrew problems. it's not, but

Re: Announce: Hspell 0.4

2003-03-10 Thread Dan Kenigsberg
On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 12:15:04PM +0200, Matan Ninio wrote: I'm very happy to here this. I would be even happier if I would understand what I need to do to get this to work with my bidi-emacs. Have you looked into the possibility of interfacing with emacs ispell like? being the center of

Re: egged.co.il works

2003-03-10 Thread Eran Tromer
On 2003/03/10 16:03, Shachar Shemesh wrote: Only about 1% of the people who browse the internet do so from Linux (http://www.google.com/press/zeitgeist.html). My site (http://www.shemesh.biz), which was published mostly on Linux related forums (here through my sig, Wine, Haifux) gets about

Bank Leumi website (was- Re: egged.co.il works)

2003-03-10 Thread Shoshannah Forbes
Well, Mozilla =! Linux Mozilla (and other gecko browsers) are used also on Mac and on Windows. As more and more people are getting tired of IE security problems, more and more people, on many platforms, are using Gecko browsers. Also, if the sites is focused on standards, he will not have to

Re: Insta Party!

2003-03-10 Thread Oron Peled
On Mon, 10 Mar 2003 17:41:20 +0200 (IST) Alon Altman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 10 Mar 2003, Beni Cherniavsky wrote: Is it a bare RH8 or are some extra/newer packages installed? I'll bring a CD of updates that will be installed to anyone who asks for it. It is extremly important,

Re: Insta Party!

2003-03-10 Thread Alon Altman
On Mon, 10 Mar 2003, Oron Peled wrote: On Mon, 10 Mar 2003 17:41:20 +0200 (IST) Alon Altman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 10 Mar 2003, Beni Cherniavsky wrote: Is it a bare RH8 or are some extra/newer packages installed? I'll bring a CD of updates that will be installed to anyone

Re: Insta Party!

2003-03-10 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Oron Peled wrote: It is extremly important, especially with respect to security updates. We don't want to create extra 100 vulnerable sendmails out in the wild now, do we? No reason to have a listening sendmail on the installed machines. We install machines that have 0 (zero, nada, zilch,

Re: egged.co.il works

2003-03-10 Thread Reuven M. Lerner
Shachar == Shachar Shemesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Shachar Please help me with a set of reasons why making the site Shachar actually work with Mozilla is in their best interests. I can think of two arguments: (1) I don't want to see the Leumi site work with Mozilla. I want it to

Re: egged.co.il works

2003-03-10 Thread Guy Baruch
Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: Here is my take for a structured argument: The argument usually presented in regard for making sub-standart sites that only work for a specific browseris that statistics show that the % of users using this product is so big that the economical incentive to make a

Re: Announce: Hspell 0.4

2003-03-10 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 08:58:19PM +0200, Dan Kenigsberg wrote: On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 12:15:04PM +0200, Matan Ninio wrote: I'm very happy to here this. I would be even happier if I would understand what I need to do to get this to work with my bidi-emacs. Have you looked into the