Bank Hapoalim *Business* website in Linux (or alternatives)

Hi I'm about to open a corporate bank account with Poalim, but from looking at their website, https://www.bankhapoalim.biz/, it looks like the online banking requires the use of their "Mini Key", a proprietary USB device which I guess contains an identificati

Re: Bank Hapoalim

On Wed, Jul 08, 2009 at 01:26:25PM +0300, Noam Rathaus wrote: > Hi guys, > > I have used Poalim from Ubuntu and Debian before, in Firefox 1.5, 2.0, > 3.0 and now with 3.5 without any issues. > > I can't use their Business web site as it requires an ActiveX, but > with my personal account I have n

Re: Bank Hapoalim

I am actually using Bank Hapoalim with Linux without any real problems. The biggest problem is that some text is reversed sometimes (very old issue), which can be solved easily by changing page encoding. When I asked them about Linux support they said they are supporting both Windows and Mac, and

Re: Bank Hapoalim

t; Weird.. > > I'm using Firefox 3.0.10, CentOS 5.3 and I'm surfing in my account in > Bank Hapoalim for more then 10 minutes. No problem at all.. > > Could it be a firewall issue that ends prematurely the SSL session? > > Hetz > > 2009/7/8 Dan Bar Dov : >> I

Re: Bank Hapoalim

Weird.. I'm using Firefox 3.0.10, CentOS 5.3 and I'm surfing in my account in Bank Hapoalim for more then 10 minutes. No problem at all.. Could it be a firewall issue that ends prematurely the SSL session? Hetz 2009/7/8 Dan Bar Dov : > I just got off the phone, talking with

Re: Bank Hapoalim

I am using Bank Hapoalim and get logged out only after 3 minutes of inactivity. -- Ori Idan 2009/7/8 Dan Bar Dov > I just got off the phone, talking with Bank Hapoalim support. > > I got a very clear message - "We do not support Linux. We support only > Windows XP and Vis

Re: Bank Hapoalim

Look at the email I sent to the person who tried the same with clalit, I think the same apply to hapoalim or any other big organization. Ely 2009/7/8 Dan Bar Dov : > I just got off the phone, talking with Bank Hapoalim support. > > I got a very clear message - "We do not sup

Bank Hapoalim

I just got off the phone, talking with Bank Hapoalim support. I got a very clear message - "We do not support Linux. We support only Windows XP and Vista.." Just to make sure I asked, so you support Firefox & explorer, but only on Microsoft operating systems? The answer was a

Sweet revenge [was: FireFox and Bank haPoalim]

Haifa University's HighLearn system (used to disseminate course material) did not even let Firefox log in. If one do log in (using IE), one finds a host of complex ASP-generated pages with frames and security checks and whatnot. Guess what? http://online.haifa.ac.il/ now features the note

Re: FireFox and Bank haPoalim

won't openly cooperate with > the development team). > > On 12/10/06, Michael Sternberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I still did not heard the asnwer to question why its so hard for Bank >> haPoalim to fix their site for so long time. Or why Linux fans/Israel >> O

Re: FireFox and Bank haPoalim

ious to Firefox (though they still won't openly cooperate with the development team). On 12/10/06, Michael Sternberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I still did not heard the asnwer to question why its so hard for Bank haPoalim to fix their site for so long time. Or why Linux fans/Israel Open So

Re: FireFox and Bank haPoalim

Argh! There's no security model for Firefox extensions like there is for, say, Java, where the external host (i.e. Firefox) limits what an extension can do. The fact the extension claims to handle a banking site doesn't make it a more or less likely vector of attack; its ability to access your ban

Re: FireFox and Bank haPoalim

I install extensions, but check what they do... Of course, with popular extensions you can rely on the fact that somebody else checked them, but when it goes to your bank account, you cannot be too careful. Amos Shapira wrote, On 08/12/06 11:12: > On 08/12/06, *Zvi Har'El* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >

Re: FireFox and Bank haPoalim

Just being a bit argumentative, you have 2 issues with this claim: 1) You can't tell by that logic if the zip has already been cracked. The many eyes principle says that only you is probably not enough. Now, if it was tab mix plus... :) 2) 6 months from now, when it will ask for an update, someone

Re: FireFox and Bank haPoalim

On 08/12/06, Zvi Har'El <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: fancy extension to a ZIP archive) before installing it (from the local file, of course). I would do it even if the file were signed, and even if it came by a stork directly from mozdev :-) . So is this what you do for every extension you in

Re: FireFox and Bank haPoalim

Quoting Zvi Har'El, from the post of Fri, 08 Dec: > Once you installed it, it really doesn't matter if somebody later breaks > to Effie's site (to Effie it would matter :'( ). If you haven't > installed it yet - you can download it, and examine the file contets (an > XPI file is just a fancy extens

Re: FireFox and Bank haPoalim

Once you installed it, it really doesn't matter if somebody later breaks to Effie's site (to Effie it would matter :'( ). If you haven't installed it yet - you can download it, and examine the file contets (an XPI file is just a fancy extension to a ZIP archive) before installing it (from the local

Re: FireFox and Bank haPoalim

On 08/12/06, Oded Arbel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thu, 2006-12-07 at 18:38 +0200, Ilya Konstantinov wrote: > While I agree this is risky, I must correct your assumption that the > fact this extension claims to deal with a banking site makes it more > or less likely to be spyware. I think

Re: FireFox and Bank haPoalim

On Thu, 2006-12-07 at 18:38 +0200, Ilya Konstantinov wrote: > There's nothing in this extension which limits it to work only with > the bank's site, Actually, there is - from reading the extension's source its obvious that it does its magic only when it detects the URL of

Re: FireFox and Bank haPoalim

Let me refine this. Very much like linux kernel is more or less trusted to have no secret evil code because of the many eyes principle, so does, for example, tab mix plus. However, an obscure plugin like this bank hapoalim plugin does not have many eyes on its code and thus, more dangerous than

Re: FireFox and Bank haPoalim

There's nothing in this extension which limits it to work only with the bank's site, nor is there anything to limit any other extension you've installed from stealing your data from any site. While I agree this is risky, I must correct your assumption that the fact this extension claims to deal w

Re: FireFox and Bank haPoalim

rsed hebrew of Bank haPoalim > personal account web interface I have found a wonderful extension for > FireFox that solves this problem: > > http://www.effie.co.il/mozvuvu/home.html > > enjoy :) > > P.S. I do not understand why Bank haPoalim still did not fixed their > problem

RE: FireFox and Bank haPoalim

http://mishka.freeshell.org/bank_poalim.JPG Check out right column and tabs headers = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EM

Re: FireFox and Bank haPoalim

On 12/7/06, Michael Sternberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alex Dover > Sent: Thursday, 07 December, 2006 02:26 PM > To: Linux-IL > Subject: Re: FireFox and Bank haPoalim &g

RE: FireFox and Bank haPoalim

-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alex Dover Sent: Thursday, 07 December, 2006 02:26 PM To: Linux-IL Subject: Re: FireFox and Bank haPoalim Actually I'm currently looking at their site in firefox and it looks fine to me. They used to h

Re: FireFox and Bank haPoalim

e: On 12/7/06, Gilad Ben-Yossef <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Michael Sternberg wrote: > > > > Hello. > > > > For everybody who's tired of looking on reversed hebrew of Bank haPoalim > > personal account web interface I have found a wonderful extension

Re: FireFox and Bank haPoalim

On 12/7/06, Gilad Ben-Yossef <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Michael Sternberg wrote: > > Hello. > > For everybody who's tired of looking on reversed hebrew of Bank haPoalim > personal account web interface I have found a wonderful extension for > FireFox that

Re: FireFox and Bank haPoalim

Michael Sternberg wrote: Hello. For everybody who's tired of looking on reversed hebrew of Bank haPoalim personal account web interface I have found a wonderful extension for FireFox that solves this problem: http://www.effie.co.il/mozvuvu/home.html enjoy :) P.S. I do not understan

FireFox and Bank haPoalim

Hello. For everybody who's tired of looking on reversed hebrew of Bank haPoalim personal account web interface I have found a wonderful extension for FireFox that solves this problem: http://www.effie.co.il/mozvuvu/home.html enjoy :) P.S. I do not understand why Bank haPoalim stil

Re: Bank HaPoalim vs. Mozilla update

Dan Kenigsberg wrote: On Fri, Jan 21, 2005 at 01:28:59PM +0200, Ilya Konstantinov wrote: I especially mentioned Mozilla 1.8 (not yet released). Firefox 1.0 did not include the fix for bug 246700 yet. Firefox 1.1 will include the fix. With this fix, the menus will always be reversed. I know th

Re: Bank HaPoalim vs. Mozilla update

On Fri, Jan 21, 2005 at 01:28:59PM +0200, Ilya Konstantinov wrote: > I especially mentioned Mozilla 1.8 (not yet released). Firefox 1.0 did > not include the fix for bug 246700 yet. Firefox 1.1 will include the > fix. With this fix, the menus will always be reversed. > > I know the reason why th

Re: Bank HaPoalim vs. Mozilla update

include the fix. With this fix, the menus will always be reversed. I know the reason why they are reversed in the first place (no, it's not an issue of their site being Visual). The site owners won't take care of it, though. I find Bank Hapoalim support for Non IE browsers enough for

Re: Bank HaPoalim vs. Mozilla update

I tried to do trasfer severl times, The field did not dissapear but the message was not endless loop, I could do the transfer without many problems. As for the menus being reversed, I use firefox and usually a simple refresh displayes them the right direction. I find Bank Hapoalim support for

Re: Bank HaPoalim vs. Mozilla update

Alon Altman wrote: Bank HaPoalim works fine for me in Mozilla. What problems did you notice? There are problems with certain functionalities. For example, when doing a fund transfer, if you select "Bank Hapoalim" as the target bank, the "Shem Mutav" field should disappear. On

Re: Bank HaPoalim vs. Mozilla update

Bank HaPoalim works fine for me in Mozilla. What problems did you notice? Alon Hello, Today I've talked to their technical support again -- first to a girl named Karin, then to a guy named Asaf, reporting yet another problem with their site when using Mozilla. On the downside, they

Bank HaPoalim vs. Mozilla update

Hello, Today I've talked to their technical support again -- first to a girl named Karin, then to a guy named Asaf, reporting yet another problem with their site when using Mozilla. On the downside, they don't support Mozilla, not even on Macintosh, except for "trivial issues" (surely nothing t

Re: Bank Hapoalim - was: Re: Mozilla, Internet Banking and Bank Otsar Ha-Hayal: summary

On Mon, Nov 03, 2003 at 09:04:29AM +0200, Dan Kenigsberg wrote: > It won't heart me to learn a trick or two. And neither to spell. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g

Re: Bank Hapoalim - was: Re: Mozilla, Internet Banking and Bank Otsar Ha-Hayal: summary

I hereby request. It won't heart me to learn a trick or two. On Thu, Oct 30, 2003 at 09:18:16PM +0200, Baruch Even wrote: > For anyone interested I've modified Dan's script to extract the data to > CSV files, I've also made use of HTML Table extraction to hopefully > make the script a bit more rob

Re: Bank Hapoalim - was: Re: Mozilla, Internet Banking and Bank Otsar Ha-Hayal: summary

* Dan Kenigsberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [031030 16:42]: [Accessing bank-hapoalim website] > Oh, and you may find my own *DANGEROUS* perl script interesting. It tries to > summarize a few pages off the poalim site. As written inside, it is GPLed (see > exception!) and comes with absolut

Re: Bank Hapoalim - was: Re: Mozilla, Internet Banking and Bank Otsar Ha-Hayal: summary

On Thu, Oct 30, 2003 at 12:36:59PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Thu, Oct 30, 2003 at 12:21:46PM -0500, Guy Baruch wrote: > > Several people mentioned that Otsar Ha-Hayal is subsidiary of Hapoalim, > > and the URL > > is the same. > > Speaking of Bank Hapoalim,

Re: Bank Hapoalim - was: Re: Mozilla, Internet Banking and Bank Otsar Ha-Hayal: summary

On Thu, Oct 30, 2003 at 12:36:59PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Thu, Oct 30, 2003 at 12:21:46PM -0500, Guy Baruch wrote: > > Several people mentioned that Otsar Ha-Hayal is subsidiary of Hapoalim, > > and the URL > > is the same. > > Speaking of Bank Hapoalim,

Bank Hapoalim - was: Re: Mozilla, Internet Banking and Bank Otsar Ha-Hayal: summary

On Thu, Oct 30, 2003 at 12:21:46PM -0500, Guy Baruch wrote: > Several people mentioned that Otsar Ha-Hayal is subsidiary of Hapoalim, > and the URL > is the same. Speaking of Bank Hapoalim, last night I tried to enter it with Mozilla Firebird 0.6.1 and managed to login but the menu ba

Re: Bank HaPoalim and Mozilla

On Fri, 27 Dec 2002 01:56:39 +0200, Ilya Konstantinov wrote about "Bank HaPoalim and Mozilla": > Speaking of banks and Mozilla bugs: Bank HaPoalim's online account > site displays its menus reversed due to a Mozilla bug: > > http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=

Bank HaPoalim and Mozilla

On Fri, Dec 27, 2002 at 01:32:44AM +0200, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: > Because it's not NS support and IE support - it's Standarts Complaince. > No one need to support NS - they need to support IETF standarts. If NS > or Mozilla fail to correctly display a correct document it's a bug and > it will get