Re: Trying to get GUI'ed

2002-10-24 Thread Ray Olszewski
You forgot to cc the list with your message; I added it back in this reply, which includes your complete message at the end. First, to avoid conflicts, you do not need to remove the various packages from your filesystem. All you need to do is not run them (or in the case of libraries, not run p

Re: problems with dual boot

2002-10-24 Thread Bryan Simmons
Hozed. It's my experience that it's better to install Linux last. Never trust a Windoze app to launch Linux... One thing you might try. Begin reinstallation of RedHat except look for an option that will allow you reinstal LILO or GRUB. On Thu, 2002-10-24 at 17:15, Abhijit Vijay wrote: > Hi All,

problems with dual boot

2002-10-24 Thread Abhijit Vijay
Hi All, My computer (which has Windows 2000/Red Hat Linux 7.0) Dual Boot with a WinNT loader, has developed problems. Someone else was using it and now when I select the Linux option at boot time, it says that some kernel.exe file is missing and does not boot. Windows boots fine. I tried using a l

Re: Gui - Gnome - Kde

2002-10-24 Thread Gavin Laking
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 24 Oct 2002 11:10:31 -0400 "Paul Kraus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What is kde like. I always just install gnome with Xwindows. I even > select Xwindows classic what is it and why are there two. KDE is another window manager for Linux. Wha

Gui - Gnome - Kde

2002-10-24 Thread Paul Kraus
What is kde like. I always just install gnome with Xwindows. I even select Xwindows classic what is it and why are there two. Paul Kraus Network Administrator PEL Supply Company 216.267.5775 Voice 216-267-6176 Fax www.pelsupply.com BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:Kraus;Paul FN:Paul Kraus ([EMAIL PROTE

Re: CD-ROM settings and hardware resources...

2002-10-24 Thread Ray Olszewski
At 05:04 PM 10/24/02 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] By the way, I'm not sure what enabling/disabling DMA has to do with reading a faulty CD-ROM. It's not like you're enabling/disabling UDMA, which has error correction to detect errors on the _bus_. Enabling DMA has nothing (that I know o

Re: CD-ROM settings and hardware resources...

2002-10-24 Thread jbradford
> > According to a conversation I had with another helper on this list, > > there is an experimental IDE CR driver that does away with the scsi > > emulation. I was under the impression that this was the only way to > > turn on the dma setting. > > Then i stand corrected, as i know nothing of suc

Re: RedHat 8

2002-10-24 Thread Paulo Jorge
On Thu, Oct 24, 2002 at 07:39:41AM -0400, Frank Roberts - SOTL wrote: > I am stating IN NO UNCERTANT TERNS THAT THERE IS NO GONOME GUI IN RH 8.0 just > like ther is no KDE GUI. In RedHat 8.0 there is a KDE GUI and there is a Gnome GUI. The only fact is that RedHat replace both the kde and the gno

Re: Gui - Gnome - Kde

2002-10-24 Thread James Miller
On Thu, 24 Oct 2002, Gavin Laking wrote: > On Thu, 24 Oct 2002 11:10:31 -0400 > "Paul Kraus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > What is kde like. I always just install gnome with Xwindows. I even > > select Xwindows classic what is it and why are there two. > > KDE is another window manager for Li

Re: Trying to get GUI'ed

2002-10-24 Thread LL Phillips
How much do you have now ? (memory) Lorraine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I have more memory now, and icewm doesn't take too much. > > Lawson - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-newbie" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vge

Re: Gui - Gnome - Kde

2002-10-24 Thread Petre Bandac
kde is "creme de la creme" (IMHO) though I'm beginning to like enlightenment (which I use on my freebsd machine), kde is amazing with its utilities (I cannot live without kdict, kcalc is as easy to use as the calc from windows and kmail is the state of the art in mail-client business [again, IM

Re: RedHat 8

2002-10-24 Thread Frank Roberts - SOTL
Not always. Since I travel a lot and I am seldom at one location I normally use a dial up connection. Down load time for many of the components is normally in the 6 to 24 hour range. At the last linux meeting I attempted to down load RH using a T3 line. Unfortunately there were so many others t

Re: Journaling File Systems...

2002-10-24 Thread Petre Bandac
use reiserfs - I use it since slackware 8.0 appeared and have no complaints petre On Thursday 24 October 2002 17:00 Anno Domini, Paul Furness wrote using one of his keyboards: > Ext 3 has some slowness, I guess, but I use it without any real > headaches for my workstation and a couple of servers

Re: CD-ROM settings and hardware resources...

2002-10-24 Thread pa3gcu
On Thursday 24 October 2002 10:35, Bryan Simmons wrote: > OK, but doesn't a CD-ROM have a read-ahead setting? Yes, but unfortunatly not when SCSI emu is used. So if you use you cdr for both writing and reading then you could always use ide for reading and then scsi for writing, not very efficent

Re: Journaling File Systems...

2002-10-24 Thread Paul Furness
Ext 3 has some slowness, I guess, but I use it without any real headaches for my workstation and a couple of servers (not particularly I/O intensive servers, mind you). Want to have a play with ReiserFS because of the speed. Don't know about the others. >From what I've read, ReiserFS might be wo

Re: RedHat 8

2002-10-24 Thread Paul Furness
You can indeed install pretty much anything. But that starts to get too technical if aren't technical, and too much hassle if you are technical. It depends on where you are and what you want. At work, I want to build workstations for people quickly and efficiently and I need them to work with basic

Re: RedHat 8

2002-10-24 Thread Bryan Simmons
But you can download the other GUIs right? And install them? Speaking of this, what do you guys think of the Ximian desktop? On Thu, 2002-10-24 at 07:39, Frank Roberts - SOTL wrote: > > I am stating IN NO UNCERTANT TERNS THAT THERE IS NO GONOME GUI IN RH 8.0 just > like ther is no KDE GUI. >

Re: CD-ROM settings and hardware resources...

2002-10-24 Thread Bryan Simmons
Shows how much I know about basic system design... In fact, I was shocked to learn last night that ext2 uses linked lists to keep track of files in a directory. Why is this? Did the guys who wrote the file system specs go to school for computer science? I can't tell you how many times my cmsc p

Re: RedHat 8

2002-10-24 Thread Paul Furness
Hmm, not sure about what Red Hat are trying to do. The reason I ditched 8.0 was that it felt like I was using something from MS. By that I mean that although it looks pretty at the front, there seems to be a distinct lack of stuff behind. It also felt a lot more like "This is our product, this is w

Re: RedHat 8

2002-10-24 Thread Frank Roberts - SOTL
I am stating IN NO UNCERTANT TERNS THAT THERE IS NO GONOME GUI IN RH 8.0 just like ther is no KDE GUI. RH 8.0 uses a new RH GUI which has appears to be 90% Gnome but is not Gnome. (Sorry I forgot the name of the GUI just like I am trying to forget RH 8.0) Frank On Wednesday 23 October 2002

Re: RedHat 8

2002-10-24 Thread Frank Roberts - SOTL
On Wednesday 23 October 2002 16:31, Paul Krause wrote: > 4 for and 1 against. You really slammed it. Can I inquire as to why you > like suse? Sorry but being pro Suse was not the intended meaning. In fact that is the very inverse of intent. For Suse The best set of programs Against Suse The m

Re: CD-ROM settings and hardware resources...

2002-10-24 Thread jbradford
> > Does anyone know a way around this? I can't hardly believe that all the > > millions of Linux users have been, and still are, stuck with CD-RWs that > > have to masquerade as SCSI devices. > > There is no way around it, simply read the proper documentation, in this case > the CD-Writing HOWT

Journaling File Systems...

2002-10-24 Thread Bryan Simmons
When I first installed Linux in 1998, I don't remember there being any other file system to use other than Ext2. After 2000, I went a few years without Linux. This time around, when installing Linux, I noticed I could use anything from Ext3 to ReiserFS to JFS etc... I steered clear of these and c

Re: CD-ROM settings and hardware resources...

2002-10-24 Thread Bryan Simmons
On Thu, 2002-10-24 at 03:01, Ray Olszewski wrote: > At 05:51 PM 10/23/02 -0400, Bryan Simmons wrote: > >Perhaps dma wasn't the problem. Here's the output when I execute hdparm > >on /dev/hdc (my CD-RW): > > > >/dev/hdc: > > HDIO_GET_MULTCOUNT failed: Input/output error > > IO_support = 1 (32-

Re: CD-ROM settings and hardware resources...

2002-10-24 Thread Bryan Simmons
OK, but doesn't a CD-ROM have a read-ahead setting? On Thu, 2002-10-24 at 02:40, pa3gcu wrote: > On Wednesday 23 October 2002 21:51, Bryan Simmons wrote: > > Perhaps dma wasn't the problem. Here's the output when I execute hdparm > > on /dev/hdc (my CD-RW): > > > > /dev/hdc: > > HDIO_GET_MULTCO

Re: CD-ROM settings and hardware resources...

2002-10-24 Thread Ray Olszewski
At 05:51 PM 10/23/02 -0400, Bryan Simmons wrote: Perhaps dma wasn't the problem. Here's the output when I execute hdparm on /dev/hdc (my CD-RW): /dev/hdc: HDIO_GET_MULTCOUNT failed: Input/output error IO_support = 1 (32-bit) unmaskirq= 1 (on) using_dma= 1 (on) keepsettings = 0