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ory-bandwidth
machines).
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in "Danke schön"!
>
I hope things clear up after you read the HOWTO. If not, please write again
to the list or to me in person. But please, in english:) Your english
is better than my german, I promise you:)
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that will not fit into
the desktops of _any_ GNU/Linux user.
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diff -ru linux-test1/drivers/block/ll_rw_blk.c linux/dr
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and with Mika's raid-1 read-balancing, it will even be a
performance gain if you array is mostly read from.
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x27;t work.
Get the patch from http://people.redhat.com/mingo
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k:)
Resizing raids is very simple, conceptually. But resizing them in
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On Thu, 27 Apr 2000, Mika Kuoppala wrote:
[snip]
>
> I think Jakob Østergaard has made raid-reconf utility
> which you can use to grow raid0 arrays. But i think
> i didn't support converting from raid0 to raid5. Or
> perhaps it alraeady does =? :)
It doesn't (yet).
ly have to fix one small reject
in raid1.c, but it shouldn't be much of a problem I guess.
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On Wed, 12 Apr 2000, Morten Bøgeskov wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Apr 2000, Jakob Østergaard wrote:
>
> >
> >2.2.14 + 2.2.14 RAID + 2.2.15pre17 ( + i2c + lmsensors + homebrew wdt patch)
> >
> >in that exact order gives you a reject for raid1.c. Simply change the
>
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the 2.2.15pre patch, it solves instability problems in 2.2.14 and
was definitely worth the extra trouble for me.
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ad to
> more misinterpretation of the disk status...?
It will slow the wakeup process if the disks also delay wakeups
after the initial power-on. I don't know what the disks would do,
it probably even depends on vendors too, just to make this whole
thing even more interesting:)
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ated.
Well, we can't have everyone using neandertal technology just because
of RAID-1:)
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en't heard of any such
tool (anyone?)
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:O
ided in the future.
I have added this to my FIX file for the next revision of the HOWTO.
Thanks,
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(don't remember - someone mentioned it at least...)
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mkraid'ing an existing array is inherently dangerous if you're not careful and
know what you're doing. It's perfectly safe otherwise. Having the tool tell
the user that ``here be dragons'' is perfectly sensible IMHO.
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ystems on
the fly. But now I'm dreaming again ;) I should get the basic utility done,
and let someone in the know do the dangerous work :)
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are only patches for 2.2.11 and below.
>
> I hope you can understand what I mean :-) and you can help me.
>
Ask again if you need to:)
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On Tue, 28 Mar 2000, Mike Bilow wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Mar 2000, Jakob Østergaard wrote:
>
...
> > >From the CPU load on the raid-1 soft IDE test, I think seems likely that you
> > didn't have DMA enabled. Could that be possible ?
> >
> > It doesn't m
ould that be possible ?
It doesn't make sense to have 97% CPU load when reading with 4 MB/s unless
it's done with port I/O.
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rently being merged into 2.3.X and will be in 2.4 when it comes out.
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You're running
RAID-1, so you should be able to just don't start the RAID devices, and
then mount one of the mirrors disregarding the /dev/mdX devices.
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helps you more than it confuses you.
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experiment a little and find the right option, please post here :)
Or search the LKML archives, the mail was posted last week (I think).
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y according to the documentation.
How about manually adding (with the hotadd command) the drive ?
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ou won't be swapping on RAID.
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On Wed, 08 Mar 2000, Brian Pomerantz wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 09, 2000 at 12:44:32AM +0100, Jakob Østergaard wrote:
> >
> > You don't _think_ you would see better performance ?
> >
> > I'm pretty sure you will see better performance. But on the other
&
busses. (And for
good reasons, hotswap on RAID-0 is not often an issue ;)
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s a hard one to beat ;)
>
> you get what you pay for.
Agreed.
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ersitility in redundancy vs efficiency. It could
> doing the normal hamming codes.
2 dimensional ?If it's RAID-5 of RAID-5 arrays, you can do it already.
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7;s a lot of interesting testing fixing to be done. I
underestimated that when I asked people to just give the RAID patch a lot of
testing. My bummer, I should have tested it myself before asking others.
Cheers all,
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losing the data).
Sorry for the confusion
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y're too big, just don't make them too small...
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e RAID works perfectly. Something
else is biting you.
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/dev/sdb to new HDD, the result, system hung-up on boot
> time.
Are you *SURE* that you assigned the same SCSI ID to the new disk ?
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ols (manually if required).
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witch, but I doubt that it is a very clever thing to do with the
current state of your array...
The failed-disk patch is fairly small. I guess you can apply it pretty quickly
even if it doesn't apply cleanly to the older raidtools.
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the SCSI layer in the kernel) may require
a reboot/powercycle to get the machine up and running again.
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k value. But besides from
that I seriously doubt that RAID'ed CDs would be worth the effort.
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it really is cheaper, faster and
easier to just copy the CD contents to the harddrive.
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bonnie works
with one file only. But in a production environment, many files are usually
accessed simultaneously, and it should be possible for RAID-1 to scale there.
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xt2. The chunksize doesn't matter much on bonnie tests,
but you might see a difference in real-world usage. I'm afraid I can't contribute
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ance there ;)
I use both SCSI and IDE RAID systems, and I get a very nice performance
from all of them. The performance matches what I could expect.
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On Sun, Nov 28, 1999 at 01:27:21AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Sat, 27 Nov 1999, [iso-8859-1] Jakob Østergaard wrote:
>
> > Actually, nothing should stop you from putting the OS on software RAID either.
>
> Doesn't at least /boot need to be on at most a RAID1 whe
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ftware-RAID.HOWTO/) for a
step-by-step guide.
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are time.
You can get the raidreconf utility as a patch to the raidtools package from
http://ostenfeld.dk/~jakob/Software-RAID.HOWTO/
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?
We need to see the raidtab to help you.
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> Maybe this info is usefull for someone
Once I get some more work done on raidreconf, maybe a section should be
added to the HOWTO about resizing arrays.
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re trying
the stunt on an array with real data on it. And keep backups of course ;)
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0.9
Try 2.2.13acX and see if you can reproduce the problem.
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ow as it doesn't
provide the equivalent of a resizable RAID-5. It's my belief that people need that.
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On Sun, Oct 31, 1999 at 11:50:26PM -0200, Christian Robottom Reis wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Oct 1999, Jakob Østergaard wrote:
>
> > Because LILO doesn't understand RAID, and thus cannot (yet) load the kernel
> > of it.
>
> Doesn't the lilo.raid1 patch included i
inux/kernel/alan/...)
The AC kernels (the ones released by Alan Cox) has some extra features over
the standard kernels, like 0.90 RAID.
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update to the raidreconf utility. I'll post it here when
it happens.
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ie on the two disks, will be the same as
you get from the RAID.
Could you try that out ?
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double disk failures [and maybe has too much
> performance for you SCSI channels ;-] ).
It's a compromise I guess.
The paranoid run RAID-1 with ten disks to allow for nine simultaneous disk failures :)
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n?
bonnie & bonnie
Two threads :)
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given nor endorsed by it.
Ok, I'll remember that;)
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w how to handle device 0x0900"
>
> What does the above mean and how to i fix it?
>
It's because /mnt/newroot/boot is not mounted on your boot partition, but
is a regular subdirectory on your /mnt/newroot RAID.
umount /boot, mount /mnt/newroot/boot. Then run LILO.
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IDing on the default installation.
Say it brother! :)
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why you take frequent backups and run raid1/5
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FAIR the linux-smp list
does that (with the SMP FAQ).
Could the list maintainer give an oppinion on this ?
Thanks,
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lls me to bugger off ;) when I have new
releases out that add functionality.
Cheers,
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7;ve re-done the basic algorithm. The
code available for download now is _really_ basic, and wrong. I've already
changed quite a lot of it. Wait a day or so for an update :)
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