Oh fun! Thanks for that, Paul!
rgds
-J
Paul Swafford wrote:
http://www.nwc.com/showitem.jhtml?docid=1502lastmile_penguin
enjoy!
Paul Swafford
(Manager, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Arts Centre)
(Level 2/28 Worcester Boulevard, Christchurch, NZ)
(ph/fax +64 3 3656480 www.e-caf.com)
Ok ok ok let's just get me on the right path with all equipment and not
insult my poor exchange server...
Not that I'm actually using it at present...
all my mail server requirments are handled on linux boxes around the place
web server is all linux based now as well...
it's just the clien
On Thu, 01 Apr 2004 20:06, Don Gould wrote:
> could also be the mail rules in this client causing duplications. Outlook
> 2000 g
errr knew it was one end of the MS pair LOL
seriously though look at the headers
On Thu, 01 Apr 2004 19:22, Nick Rout wrote:
> I am waiting 24 hours for comments before choosing the 24th April or1 May.
Both dates are fine with me.
--
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www.fisher.net.nz
I'm tired of being a wanna-be league bowler, I wanna be a league bowler!
-- Homer Simpson
On Thu, 01 Apr 2004 20:44, Robert Fisher wrote:
> On Thu, 01 Apr 2004 19:22, Nick Rout wrote:
> > I am waiting 24 hours for comments before choosing the 24th April or1
> > May.
>
> Both dates are fine with me.
Executive decision made, the fest will be Saturday 1 May 2004. Any arguments,
go organ
hi,
Suse is great! I believe that it was a good move to set it up for my friend
instead of MDK. There are a couple of things that I didn't much like, but
they are probably personal:
It is way too fussy on the ftp address when setting up an ftp server as the
rpm repository. One wrong forwardslash
Hi,
I originally planned for there to be lots but I have been convinced to take
all the innards over to France so I can only offer:
Box (quite ugly PC Company one) with 200watt powersupply
50x speed cdrom.
2 x IDE cables
1 x floppy cable
Sorry but I am taking the screws to France so you'll need yo
On Thu, 01 Apr 2004 11:48, Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC) wrote:
> Would there be any problems running some of the distcc machines via a
> secondary switch (in the house) off the main switch (in the garage)? That
> way I could set up the laptops inside and out of the way.
I can well understand you desi
Hi,
recently, there was some discussion on the list about QT and GTK.
GnomeMeeting is an up and coming desktop app that does voip. The author
wrote to the gnomemeeting list describing a forthcoming change::
After GnomeMeeting 1.0.2 has been released, we will start working on
GnomeMeeting 2.00 wh
On Thu, 01 Apr 2004 22:02, Christopher Sawtell wrote:
> On Thu, 01 Apr 2004 11:48, Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC) wrote:
> > Would there be any problems running some of the distcc machines via a
> > secondary switch (in the house) off the main switch (in the garage)? That
> > way I could set up the lapt
On Thu, 01 Apr 2004 22:25, Derek Smithies wrote:
> Hi,
> recently, there was some discussion on the list about QT and GTK.
>
> GnomeMeeting is an up and coming desktop app that does voip. The author
> wrote to the gnomemeeting list describing a forthcoming change::
>
> After GnomeMeeting 1.0.2 has
Following on from Nicks statement... I had a similar experience a few
months ago after uninstalling OO in preparation for installing a new
version... in my case all the files (including 'hidden' ones) in my home
directory disappeared... but the directories were left untouched. After
swearing a bit
On Thu, 01 Apr 2004 22:57, Carl Klitscher wrote:
> Following on from Nicks statement... I had a similar experience a few
> months ago after uninstalling OO in preparation for installing a new
> version... in my case all the files (including 'hidden' ones) in my home
> directory disappeared... but t
Hi-ho folks..
My Deskjet died last week, and although I've borrowed one, it's a load
of junk quality wise, so I've decided the time might be right for a
multi-function type printer/scanner doofer.
I'm looking at the HP PSC2310.. The PSC2300 is listed on
www.linuxprinting.org but not the 2310, so
Derek Smithies, 2004-04-01 22:25:22:
> GnomeMeeting is an up and coming desktop app that does voip. The author
> wrote to the gnomemeeting list describing a forthcoming change::
> After GnomeMeeting 1.0.2 has been released, we will start working on
> GnomeMeeting 2.00 which will be based on QT. [
On Friday 02 April 2004 09:58, you wrote:
> Also, no supermount by default... which brings me to the question... is
> there somewhere where I had to specify that I wanted the kernel with
> supermount? Can that be done by module, or is it compiled-in only? MDK has
> it by default but deadrat (and it
hi,
spam is overwhelming,
my spamfilter is not keeping up (only catches 50% or less)
the rest of my inbox still gets more spam than interresting mails.
besides, written communication is so unpersonal anyways.
therefore i have decided to stop using email, irc and any other form of written
commun
On Thu, 01 Apr 2004 22:26, Nick Rout wrote:
>
> which reminds me: robert - do you have a dhcp server? can u set it up to
> dish out "static" IP addresses, ie associate a MAC address to an IP
> address.
>
Yes my adsl router acts as my dhcp server (and so does my LTSP server)
I can reserve address
Hi, Nick Rpout wrote:
> You said it happened when you uninstalled OpenOffice.org. Take a look at
> whatever script executed when you uninstalled OOo.
and
>if there is one floating about for OOo that deletes everything in your home
directory I want to damn well know about it!!!>
Sorry, it's 'lon
On Thu, 01 Apr 2004 23:27, Chris Hellyar wrote:
> Hi-ho folks..
>
> My Deskjet died last week, and although I've borrowed one, it's a load
> of junk quality wise, so I've decided the time might be right for a
> multi-function type printer/scanner doofer.
>
> I'm looking at the HP PSC2310.. The PSC
On Thu, 2004-04-01 at 23:27, Chris Hellyar wrote:
> My Deskjet died last week, and although I've borrowed one, it's a load
> of junk quality wise, so I've decided the time might be right for a
> multi-function type printer/scanner doofer.
I have an OfficeJet v40. Works OK. No fax function (yet)
One more laptop - 2GhZ P4 - 256Mb RAM is available for the distcc thing - if
the date fits in with my work roster
Yuri
Quoting Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> Also, what is our approach to stages and binaries? Although it does not
>
> produce the most fully optimised system, I think we should go for:
>
> 1. start with stage 3.
> 2. use the binaries from 2004.0.
>
> Thoughts and opinions welcomed.
>
>From t
Martin Bähr wrote:
hi,
spam is overwhelming,
my spamfilter is not keeping up (only catches 50% or less)
the rest of my inbox still gets more spam than interresting mails.
I still remember being thoroughly fooled by your joke post last year,
about switching to python.
Didn't catch me out this ye
Damn. Got me. (The date was wrong for NZ so that will be my excuse.)
Rob
-Original Message-
From: Carl Cerecke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 2 April 2004 8:50 a.m.
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Re: giving up on email
Martin Bähr wrote:
> hi,
>
> spam is overw
Are there many programmers on this list?
I've spent years programming in VB, FoxPro, SQL(variants a many), VBA, ASP,
... you get the GUI idea...
So far I've been very diselusioned by everything I've seen in the Linux
programming world.
I've yet to actually see a fully interactive GUI based devel
y fooled by your joke post last year,
> about switching to python.
>
> Didn't catch me out this year though :-) Ditching email? Just too
> unbelievable.
>
> Cheers,
> Carl.
>
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of course the joke is on martin, as all such leg-pulls are to be carried
out before midday. He must have forgotten the timezone differences. LOL
On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 08:49:49 +1200
Carl Cerecke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Martin Bähr wrote:
> > hi,
> >
> > spam is overwhelming,
> > my spamfilte
Bwahhahhahh! LOL and all the rest..nice try Martin - Happy April Fool's!
Martin Bähr wrote:
hi,
spam is overwhelming,
my spamfilter is not keeping up (only catches 50% or less)
the rest of my inbox still gets more spam than interresting mails.
besides, written communication is so unpersonal any
I'd agree, MSVC is about the best IDE that I've used if you're looking
for a single solution.
For C/C++ development in Linux, Anjuta and Kdevelop are very nice. I
don't know how well their GUI editors work, but they are based on GTK &
QT respectively. Qtdesigner is the best C++ GUI designer I've
Hi Brad,
Thanks for your response...
I'm not a c programmer. I gave up on c about 15 years ago in favour of
something that would just get the screen to do what I wanted it to with less
programming time... hence why script based VB was such a winner IMHO.
> From: Brad Beveridge [mailto:[EMAIL PR
Python is about the only scripting language that I've used. The Eric3
(http://www.die-offenbachs.de/detlev/eric3.html) IDE is the only one I
have used, it looks OK.
Sorry about the other link, when I looked closer I see that it doesn't
really have that much info.
BoaConstructor is the most advanc
1. The current version of gentoo is 2004.0. gentoo 2004.1 is tentatively
scheduled for 28 April. Thanks to Luuk for pointing this out. This is of
little significance to users with existing systems, as an 'emerge -u
world' will pull in all new functionality. However it is of significance
to installi
I'm happy with any of the options. Option b probably carries the most risk in
terms of it actually being possible. If we use 2004.0 and emerge --fetchonly,
compiling can be done over time in the background for packages that need
updating. (Thinking of my lack of broadband here). Option c mean
s get them sooner
> rather than later, etc etc,)
> c. delay two weeks (I will be away on the weekend of the 8th) and do
> 2004.1 at a more leisurely pace?
>
> 2. there was a 2, but i have forgotten what it was :-(
> --
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gt; > > learning Python (the learning curve is very shallow) and
> > > check out this
> > > page http://www.metaslash.com/brochure/tutorial/
> >
> > I had a look at that link and couldn't make head or tail out
> > of it from the point of view of find
> my spamfilter is not keeping up (only catches 50% or less)
dump your distro!
> therefore i have decided to stop using email, irc and any other form of written
> communication.
Yeaaah ight, and last year you gave up on pike.
Volker
--
Volker Kuhlmann is possibly list0570
Anyone know if there's much in the way of training in Christchurch for some
of these languages we've been talking about this morning?
Cheers Don
On Fri, 2004-04-02 at 08:57, Don Gould wrote:
> I've yet to actually see a fully interactive GUI based development and
> debugging enviornment such as you get with VB, ASP (Visual Interdev) and the
> rest of the Microsoft tools.
You're probably right. In the OSS world, if it hasn't been written,
e
probably not, but there is plenty of tutorials on python on the web. go
to python.org.
same applies to most languages, its finding the good tutorials thats the
problem.
On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 10:25:48 +1200
Don Gould <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Anyone know if there's much in the way of training i
Gidday all, but 'specially Don...
Far be it from me to moan, but Don, with all due respect, and blah, blah,
would you consider turning off your autoresponder (or whatever that PITA
thing's called) for list posts?
My highly configurable, late model email package (yeah, there you all go to
check th
> It is way too fussy on the ftp address when setting up an ftp server as the
> rpm repository. One wrong forwardslash and you are faced with a bizarre and
> completely unhelpful message.
Use their feedback form :)
> Also, no supermount by default... which brings me to the question... is there
I think there's still a spirit of what "real programmers" may or may not do,
and one thing is for sure "real programmers" don't use GUI IDEs
But then who am I to speak -- creating webpages in PICK BASIC as I write,
(or should be).
The 1982 version here is different to the one I saw in the 70's
h
Nick,
the name of GnomeMeeting has already been discussed.
There have been several kde projects based on openh323 already,
kmeeting, Konference, kdemeeting.
One person has suggested dameeting.
da has two interpretations
the
or
a reference to the authors name, Damien Sandras.
Dere
On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 09:45, Nick Rout wrote:
> 1. The current version of gentoo is 2004.0. gentoo 2004.1 is tentatively
> scheduled for 28 April. Thanks to Luuk for pointing this out. This is of
> little significance to users with existing systems, as an 'emerge -u
> world' will pull in all new func
I am sure Murphy would be involved so I think option C might be safest and
less stressful.
Regards, Robert
Some days you are the pigeon, some days you are the statue.
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From: Nick Rout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 2 April 2004 9:46 a.m.
To: CLUG
Subje
Don Gould wrote:
Are there many programmers on this list?
I've spent years programming in VB, FoxPro, SQL(variants a many), VBA, ASP,
... you get the GUI idea...
So far I've been very diselusioned by everything I've seen in the Linux
programming world.
I've yet to actually see a fully interactive
Don Gould wrote:
Are there many programmers on this list?
Yep.
I've spent years programming in VB, FoxPro, SQL(variants a many), VBA, ASP,
You have my sympathies.
I've yet to actually see a fully interactive GUI based development and
debugging enviornment such as you get with VB, ASP (Visual Int
try www.eclipse.org Eclipse provides a nice IDE for Java development that is
essentially the same on Windows and Linux. I have used it for a small amount
of Web service development on both platforms and was very impressed with the
portability. It takes a bit of setting up on Linux compared with Win
On Fri, 2004-04-02 at 11:40, Rex Johnston wrote:
> > I've spent years programming in VB, FoxPro, SQL(variants a many),
> VBA, ASP,
> You have my sympathies.
Heh.
> > I've yet to actually see a fully interactive GUI based development
> > and debugging enviornment such as you get with VB, ASP (Visu
Michael JasonSmith wrote:
Personally, i use vim.
Personally, I think all vi users are sick and twisted :P (I know enough
The latest GNOME Text Editor does do syntax highlighting, but it will
Trolls, GNOMEs, what next?
Rex
On Fri, 2004-04-02 at 12:24, Rex Johnston wrote:
> Trolls, GNOMEs, what next?
>
The Amulet of Yendor.
--
Michael JasonSmith http://www.ldots.org/
Michael JasonSmith wrote:
The Amulet of Yendor.
xyzzy
Rex
Rex Johnston wrote:
Michael JasonSmith wrote:
Personally, i use vim.
Personally, I think all vi users are sick and twisted :P (I know enough
The latest GNOME Text Editor does do syntax highlighting, but it will
Trolls, GNOMEs, what next?
Well, code compiled to native x86 on Linux is an ELF
Greets,
You might find it worthwhile to look at:-
http://www.smalltalk.org/
And from there in particular:-
http://www.exept.de/sites/exept/english/Smalltalk/frame_uebersicht.html
and
http://smalltalk.cincom.com/prodinformation/index.ssp
The former is financially free with revenue earned by sup
Hi Steve,
Sorry that something in my configuration is causing you problems.
Can you send me a emial directly to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with details of
what's causing you problems.
I couldn't follow what was the problem.
I've been working on a bunch of different things recently and seems like
I've ov
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Thanks for all that info Michael, it will take me a while to digest it all...
> But this is not your point. You want a shiny GUI, with buttons, and
> colours ;)
Actually that was not my point at all
What I wanted was a demo of some to
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> following your inbox.
>
> As for your rant about headers I end up with so much
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> I don't even bother to look at them these days.
>
> I'm also sick of virus checkers that put their own footers on
> eve
I don't consider myself to be a real programmer -- I started in COBOL which
is not a real programmer's tool.
The "real" programmers I knew were the ones who would punch object code with
a 15 key hand card punch and load it on the B500 and have it perform a
useful task.
But I do take exception t
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> I'm a 'basic' programmer. I personally have trouble with lanugage
> syntax. I find 'basic' (be it visual, Q, or what ever) very easy to
> get my head around and be very productive with.
Python. You should use Python. Ok, everyone should use Python
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> > >
> > > The auto respond on the mail server isn't very configurable
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gt; I'm also sick of virus checkers that put their own footers on
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> continue to do it.
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On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 14:29:56 +1200
Don Gould <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > 2. 'read requests' are a part of the basic mail format, so
> > why they should
> > > be causing anyone a problem is a bit of a worry.
> > >
errr which rfc don?
read receipts are a pita especially on a mailing list.
t
On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 02:21, anton wrote:
> Hey,
> I might not agree with Don on everything but here I've got to put in a
> word. I am sick of that "real programmer" BS. It is just an excuse for
> people who have nothing else in their lives. Sure, I want to be able to
> programme only using vi and gc
> Maybe because those "geek-fascists" (aka "real programmers") are the people
> who wrote the system, and wrote the tools. Tools that _they_ would want to
> use. Which is sensible (from their point of view), no?
>
> If these others (the "real people" you speak of) who like flashy gui tools
> reall
Derek Smithies, 2004-04-02 10:48:13:
> On Thu, 1 Apr 2004, Nick Rout wrote:
> > so presumably it will then be kmeeting? or qtmeeting?
> One person has suggested dameeting.
As a GTK/GNOME fan and general killjoy, I'd like to remind folks that
yesterday was April 1st.
Tim
--
Timothy Musson - [E
Carl Cerecke wrote:
Well, code compiled to native x86 on Linux is an ELF (try "file /bin/ls")
Some other systems have DWARF objects instead.
Yet other systems COFF instead.
Since GCC 3.1, Linux programs are both ELF and DWARF objects. I get a
very strange mental image trying to picture this, a
John Williams, 2004-04-02 06:58:34:
> Un-installing [OOo], using the option in the 'setup' script "removal
> of all files" still left a lot of OOo 1.0.0 stuff that I deleted
> manually. [...]
> Now I'm trying to get my aliases to work again. They work if I am
> 'root' but not 'user'. OOo was in my
Nick Rout wrote:
Executive decision made, the fest will be Saturday 1 May 2004. Any arguments,
go organise your own :-) We'll probably start at 9.30 am. Unless anyone has
any better ideason time (not date!)
Erm... Yes. I shall probably be in Dunedin for the 1st of May, which I
previously forgot
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