On Tuesday 15 August 2006 5:41 pm, Rik Tindall wrote:
> Synaptic doesn't know it, with or without the hyphen.
>
Try build-essential (no s)
On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 17:44, you wrote:
> ...well, it is for my linux server! It's go t a completely non-standard
> 14 pin header for the com1 interface, and I can't work out which 3 I
> need!
>
> This is the header description in the manual:
>
> Pin
>
> 1: +12V
> 2: +5V
> 3: -12V
> 4: keyway
> 5: DC
> ...well, it is for my linux server! It's go t a completely
> non-standard 14 pin header for the com1 interface,
Might be a cut-short version of a standard header, when they decided
they didn't need the remaining pins on one side??
> This is the header description in the manual:
>
> 1: +12V
> 2
On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 17:41:08 +1200
Rik Tindall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Jim Cheetham wrote:
> > On Tue, Aug 15, 2006 at 03:53:03PM +1200, Bryce Stenberg wrote:
> >> Back again ? I?ve ditched Ubuntu as gave me catch 22 ? I needed to
> >> download ?
> >> build-essentials? to be able to compile
...well, it is for my linux server! It's go t a completely non-standard 14 pin
header for the com1 interface, and I can't work out which 3 I need!
This is the header description in the manual:
Pin
1: +12V
2: +5V
3: -12V
4: keyway
5: DCD0-
6: SIN0
7: SOUT0
8: DTR0-
9: Ground
10: DSR0-
11: RTS0-
Jim Cheetham wrote:
On Tue, Aug 15, 2006 at 03:53:03PM +1200, Bryce Stenberg wrote:
Back again ? I?ve ditched Ubuntu as gave me catch 22 ? I needed to download ?
build-essentials? to be able to compile my modem driver, and I needed a working
modem to do the download? so gave up on that.
Not th
Steve Holdoway wrote:
k9copy's pretty good ( having problems with either 16:9 or 4:3 atm, can't
remember which ), but tbh I still use DVshrink, copy to linux and then k3b to
rebuild and burn the iso (:
I use dvdbackup. DVDshrink works under wine (apparently, i've not managed to
get it to o
On Tue, Aug 15, 2006 at 03:53:03PM +1200, Bryce Stenberg wrote:
> Back again ? I?ve ditched Ubuntu as gave me catch 22 ? I needed to download ?
> build-essentials? to be able to compile my modem driver, and I needed a
> working
> modem to do the download? so gave up on that.
Not that it helps you
On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 15:35:42 +1200 (NZST)
Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, August 15, 2006 2:34 pm, Roy Britten wrote:
> > My sister-in-law has a legitimate, purchased DVD
> > (http://imdb.com/title/tt0086525/) that unfortunately is encoded for
> > Region 1 (it was bought as a gift o
On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 15:33:03 +1200
"Peter Glassenbury (CSSE)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The other "high on MY list" was a DEC Vax 11/750 (Which was our second
Blimey, hate to think how many thousand hours I've got on those... sys$qiow's
and Gold-7 exit! I threw away a Decstation 300 before I
> Can someone please instruct me on how to dial-up. Thanks.
Oh, crap.
Sorry Bryce, there has been some to-ing and fro-ing on dialup with another
CLUGger. It ought to be simple, and often it is...
If you are using KDE then the thing you want is 'kppp'. You will need to
configure the ISP numbe
I realised reading the meeting schedule that the next CLUG meeting is
too far away.
Volker, I read your presentation. It has merit and I found it very
useful. It is intended for the home user but I can already see how its
subject can be proposed to NZCS.
Next question is would you like to make it
Hi,
Back again – I’ve ditched Ubuntu as gave me
catch 22 – I needed to download ‘build-essentials’ to be able
to compile my modem driver, and I needed a working modem to do the download…
so gave up on that.
I have now installed SUSE 10.1 (from the dvd version I
downloaded to my wind
On Tue, August 15, 2006 2:34 pm, Roy Britten wrote:
> My sister-in-law has a legitimate, purchased DVD
> (http://imdb.com/title/tt0086525/) that unfortunately is encoded for
> Region 1 (it was bought as a gift overseas). The only dvd player
> available when my laptop's not around won't play Region
Nick Rout wrote:
On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 08:39:39 +1200
Peter Glassenbury (CSSE) wrote:
If anyone knows where to get an IBM PC, I would be very interested
for our museum (at the University) Seems we missed out when getting
started as most people have thrown them away
I think I have an XT or AT in
One day I'll learn to proof-read my emails *and* my subject lines...
My sister-in-law has a legitimate, purchased DVD
(http://imdb.com/title/tt0086525/) that unfortunately is encoded for
Region 1 (it was bought as a gift overseas). The only dvd player
available when my laptop's not around won't play Region 1 discs.
It's easy enough to copy the DVD using, say, Gnome
On Tue, 2006-08-15 at 08:44 +1200, Nick Rout wrote:
> Would you like a sinclair spectrum for your museum?
I am almost sure they already have one :)
On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 09:08:31 +1200
Steve Holdoway wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 08:58:05 +1200
> Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >
> > On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 08:38:18 +1200
> > Steve Holdoway wrote:
> >
> > > On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 08:12:59 +1200
> > > Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 08:58:05 +1200
Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 08:38:18 +1200
> Steve Holdoway wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 08:12:59 +1200
> > Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > [snip]
> >
> > This is getting to be almost a religious war, worse than
>
On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 08:38:18 +1200
Steve Holdoway wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 08:12:59 +1200
> Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [snip]
>
> This is getting to be almost a religious war, worse than
> cups/printers/Krishna (:
>
> Can we get a few basic facts straight, and work forwards fro
On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 08:39:39 +1200
Peter Glassenbury (CSSE) wrote:
>
>
> Christopher Sawtell wrote:
> > On Monday 14 August 2006 18:29, Robert Fisher wrote:
> >> On Monday 14 August 2006 6:16 pm, Christopher Sawtell wrote:
> >> Apparently IBM celebrated 25 years since the first personal compute
Christopher Sawtell wrote:
On Monday 14 August 2006 18:29, Robert Fisher wrote:
On Monday 14 August 2006 6:16 pm, Christopher Sawtell wrote:
Apparently IBM celebrated 25 years since the first personal computer this
week. (1981)
If anyone knows where to get an IBM PC, I would be very interest
On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 08:12:59 +1200
Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[snip]
This is getting to be almost a religious war, worse than cups/printers/Krishna
(:
Can we get a few basic facts straight, and work forwards from this?
1. ppp ( and whatever front end you stick on it ) works perfectly.
On Mon, 14 Aug 2006 23:12:17 +1200
Andrew Errington wrote:
> >
> > Actually the most likely reason has been touched on three or four times,
> > but not been followed up on. Sometimes I wonder why I bother.
> >
>
> If it has been 'touched on' maybe you should make it explicit. I must
> confess
>
> Actually the most likely reason has been touched on three or four times,
> but not been followed up on. Sometimes I wonder why I bother.
>
If it has been 'touched on' maybe you should make it explicit. I must
confess to have lost the thread a bit.
Anyway, I just plugged a PCMCIA modem into
Robert Fisher wrote:
Apparently IBM celebrated 25 years since the first personal computer this
week. (1981)
Xerox beat them by almost 10 years.
Which made Xerox's second to the 1971 Kenbak-1
http://www.vintage-computer.com/kenbak-1.shtml
for what it is worth the modem is an "Agere Win modem"
regards Alan
On Monday 14 August 2006 10:08 pm, Christopher Sawtell wrote:
> otoh, the problem could well be as simple as an incorrectly typed username
> or password.
Checked that in Windows already.
Found this with Google.
So it dials in, but is timing out before a connection can be established? That
sounds like my old problem of authentication issues. Switch to root and edit
(i use vi) /etc/ppp/peers/kppp-options and remove the "#" from noauth. That's
what I have to do every time on a
On Mon, August 14, 2006 10:08 pm, Christopher Sawtell wrote:
> On Monday 14 August 2006 21:51, Robert Fisher wrote:
>> On Monday 14 August 2006 9:45 pm, Christopher Sawtell wrote:
>> > Then we can make sure we have the correct driver for it.
>>
>> I know assumptions can be dangerous but I assumed t
On Monday 14 August 2006 21:51, Robert Fisher wrote:
> On Monday 14 August 2006 9:45 pm, Christopher Sawtell wrote:
> > Then we can make sure we have the correct driver for it.
>
> I know assumptions can be dangerous but I assumed that Mepis finding the
> modem itself during the install process and
On Monday 14 August 2006 9:45 pm, Christopher Sawtell wrote:
> Then we can make sure we have the correct driver for it.
I know assumptions can be dangerous but I assumed that Mepis finding the modem
itself during the install process and the fact that it dials were signs that
the correct driver
For better or worse dialup setup is becoming a lost art. real geeks who
have the nous to keep up with dialup client foibles tend to use broadband,
and don't have to worry about dialup.
I still say stick to wvdial myself...
On Mon, August 14, 2006 9:42 pm, Robert Fisher wrote:
> On Monday 14 Augus
On Monday 14 August 2006 21:30, Andrew Errington wrote:
> If anyone else wants to go round ahead of me or instead, then by all means.
I would if I could but I can't, and I'm sure Alan does not want this horrible
cold.
Andrew: It looks as if it's something deeper than just the pppd settings.
Could
On Monday 14 August 2006 9:36 pm, Alan wrote:
(I have my fingers crossed). One thing is
> for sure I am learning things bit by bit, tonmorrow I will go buy myself
> a book to write down as much as I can so I dont try to rely on an OLD
> memory LOL.
Good on you Alan.
Lots of us started out like yo
On Monday 14 August 2006 9:30 pm, Andrew Errington wrote:
> If anyone else wants to go round ahead of me or instead, then by all means.
>
I told Alan that I was sure there would be someone like you on the list who
would be able to get him going in the twinkle of an eye.
Good luck and keep us pos
Thanks a lot for all the suggestions, as Andrew said the noauth didnt
work, unfortunately.
Andrew is going to fire up on a dial up and test if it works and see if
any problems occur
(hopefully yes) so then he can sort it out and then hopefully apply the
fix to mine to sort it out as well,
well
Ok, so Alan's machine still does not connect.
On the phone I talked him through editing /etc/ppp/options using Konqueror
in Super-User mode and Kwrite, because he recalled Robert demonstrating
this.
It is possible that there was a slip-up in this procedure, as I could not
see what Alan was doi
On Monday 14 August 2006 9:16 pm, Christopher Sawtell wrote:
> On Monday 14 August 2006 21:02, Robert Fisher wrote:
> > Alan, just for your info..
> > echo noauth >> /etc/ppp/options
> >
> > means put a line with noauth
> > into the file /etc/ppp/options
>
> Not quite. The two '>' characters change
On Monday 14 August 2006 21:05, Andrew Errington wrote:
> Bummer.
>
> Back to sq. 1
Drat!
Add 'debug' to /etc/ppp/options
and watch /var/log/messages using the command
tail -f /var/log/messages
while dialling in. There will, without doubt, be a very good pointer to the
solution in there. Also t
Sorry to reply to myself, but another thing to try is wdial, its very good
at getting thru authentication.
On Mon, August 14, 2006 9:12 pm, Nick Rout wrote:
> Alan, have you tried the suggestion of using the three different
> authentication methods - pap, chap and script?
>
>
> On Mon, August 14,
On Monday 14 August 2006 21:02, Robert Fisher wrote:
> Alan, just for your info..
> echo noauth >> /etc/ppp/options
>
> means put a line with noauth
> into the file /etc/ppp/options
Not quite. The two '>' characters change the meaning from merely 'into',
to 'append on to the end of the current fil
Alan, have you tried the suggestion of using the three different
authentication methods - pap, chap and script?
On Mon, August 14, 2006 7:49 pm, Alan wrote:
> ok here is what came back from that check cat /etc/ppp/options
>
> # Specifies that pppd should disconnect if the link is idle for
> seco
On Mon, August 14, 2006 7:04 pm, Andrew Errington wrote:
>
>> Contact your ISP and ask what PPP (point to point protocol)
>> authentication they use.
>>
>> They should tell you one of either PAP, CHAP, or script.
>>
>
> Or, since there's only three and you've tried one, it would be quicker to
> try
Bummer.
Back to sq. 1
A
On Mon, 14 Aug 2006 20:41, you wrote:
> Remember also Alan, while you still have to use Windows to get your
> email, that you can copy relevant email text into a notepad file
> (somefilename.txt) and save it to the Fat32 partition
> (Windows E drive in your case)
>
> then in Mepis open the desktop
On Monday 14 August 2006 8:55 pm, Christopher Sawtell wrote:
> Do you honestly think that all that 5+ click schmozzle with the mouse and
> menu entries and firing up an editor ( yet more mousing ) is simpler than a
> simple 32 keystroke unix incantation?
No I don't but.
> ( he doesn't have t
On Monday 14 August 2006 20:31, Robert Fisher wrote:
> On Monday 14 August 2006 8:21 pm, Christopher Sawtell wrote:
> > ok. Please do this then:-
> > Open a console
> > i.e. Press CTRL+ALT+F1
> >
> > login as root and type.
> >
> > echo noauth >> /etc/ppp/options
>
> Probably easier for Alan to do.
Remember also Alan, while you still have to use Windows to get your email,
that you can copy relevant email text into a notepad file (somefilename.txt)
and save it to the Fat32 partition
(Windows E drive in your case)
then in Mepis open the desktop icon we created "hdb1" to then open the file
On Monday 14 August 2006 8:21 pm, Christopher Sawtell wrote:
> ok. Please do this then:-
> Open a console
> i.e. Press CTRL+ALT+F1
>
> login as root and type.
>
> echo noauth >> /etc/ppp/options
>
Probably easier for Alan to do
A simple method to access files for editing as root is to go.
On Monday 14 August 2006 19:49, Alan wrote:
> ok here is what came back from that check cat /etc/ppp/options
>
> # Specifies that pppd should disconnect if the link is idle for
> seconds. # The link is idle when no data packets (i.e. IP packets) are
> being sent or # received. Note: it is not adv
ok here is what came back from that check cat /etc/ppp/options
# Specifies that pppd should disconnect if the link is idle for seconds.
# The link is idle when no data packets (i.e. IP packets) are being sent or
# received. Note: it is not advisable to use this option with the persist
# option
On Monday 14 August 2006 7:24 pm, Rik Tindall wrote:
Is the LTmodem driver on the
> Mepis disk then?
Not sure what driver was used. Sorry.
Robert Fisher wrote:
As per my post at 2am yesterday morning.
"Alan and I installed a 10Gb
drive into his computer, partitioned it with a Fat32 partition and then
installed Mepis."
It was my assumption that Sunday the little drive came out, for a more
compact / standard partitioning. -
Nick Rout wrote:
Did anyone here besides me actually use KDE 1.x?
I tried, but next to GNUstep it was pretty ugly, and compared
with enlightenment, it was just a joke.
In fact, even next to CDE it was average looking.
Pretty snappy now tho`.
Cheers, Rex
On Monday 14 August 2006 6:39 pm, Rik Tindall wrote:
...Which partitioning agent was used to get Mepis onto your system please?
As per my post at 2am yesterday morning.
"Alan and I installed a 10Gb
drive into his computer, partitioned it with a Fat32 partition and then
installed Mepis.
> Contact your ISP and ask what PPP (point to point protocol)
> authentication they use.
>
> They should tell you one of either PAP, CHAP, or script.
>
Or, since there's only three and you've tried one, it would be quicker to
try the others yourself.
A
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