Re: Shutdown during boot [SOLVED - really this time]

2007-01-31 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
> The PC has always been noisy. In fact, it had two case fans when I > bought it! I ripped one out straight away. Just cheap fans I guess. I have excellent results with a Vantec 80mm Stealth Fan, SF8025L http://www.vantecusa.com/p_sf_6025l.html Can be had for about $20 in town. 21dbA is relative

Re: Distro Updates

2007-01-31 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Thursday 01 February 2007, Kale Worsley wrote: > Hey, > I have another newbie question, Do 'major' distros have an update mechanism > like Windows Update? For example, I have some Ubuntu 6.06 LTS LiveCD's, If > I install Ubuntu on my computer, will I be able to automatically update to > version

Re: Distro Updates

2007-01-31 Thread Hadley Rich
On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 20:17:02 Kale Worsley wrote: > Do 'major' distros have an update mechanism > like Windows Update? For example, I have some Ubuntu 6.06 LTS LiveCD's, If > I install Ubuntu on my computer, will I be able to automatically update to > version 6.10 without having to reinstall and/or

Re: Distro Updates

2007-01-31 Thread Kale Worsley
Thanks for the help. On 2/1/07, Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 20:17:02 +1300 Kale Worsley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey, > I have another newbie question, Do 'major' distros have an update mechanism > like Windows Update? For example, I have some Ubuntu 6.06 LTS L

Re: Distro Updates

2007-01-31 Thread Nick Rout
On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 20:17:02 +1300 Kale Worsley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey, > I have another newbie question, Do 'major' distros have an update mechanism > like Windows Update? For example, I have some Ubuntu 6.06 LTS LiveCD's, If I > install Ubuntu on my computer, will I be able to automati

Distro Updates

2007-01-31 Thread Kale Worsley
Hey, I have another newbie question, Do 'major' distros have an update mechanism like Windows Update? For example, I have some Ubuntu 6.06 LTS LiveCD's, If I install Ubuntu on my computer, will I be able to automatically update to version 6.10 without having to reinstall and/or download the new is

Re: Wiki is playing up again...

2007-01-31 Thread Jim Cheetham
At the top of the home page, in the section entitled "Important Service Announcement" we see the text "Trailing error messages are currently expected, due to a change of server PHP version." What you're reporting is just that - it's visible on every page at the moment (with the exception of the Pa

Re: Stand-alone Executables

2007-01-31 Thread Kerry Mayes
Nup, I was scared! On 01/02/07, Andrew Errington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Besides, I didn't want to freak out the Kale-dude. I think, however, that John has described The Other Bit quite admirably without scaring anybody. A

Re: Hardware Compatibility...

2007-01-31 Thread Kerry Mayes
You're right Chris, I should be specific - you can scan but not print! - I've updated the wiki. On 01/02/07, Christopher Sawtell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ditto for the scanner thingie-whatsit please. See:- http://solutions.brother.com/linux/sol/printer/linux/sane_drivers.html ok so it's not O

Xinerama

2007-01-31 Thread Kerry Mayes
Has anyone used Xinerama to get an extended desktop out of two screens? Extended desktop support when attached to the docking station is the only bit of the switch to Ubuntu on my Dell 520 that seems likely to be a limiting factor. Any tips and traps would be most helpful. Kerry.

Wiki is playing up again...

2007-01-31 Thread Don Gould
lib/DbSession.php:149: Notice[8]: Only variables should be assigned by reference lib/main.php:194: Notice[8]: Only variable references should be returned by reference lib/WikiDB.php:1003: Notice[1024]: PageChange Notification of Hardware sent to cabaluser lib/Template.php:124: Notice[8]: O

Re: Stand-alone Executables

2007-01-31 Thread Andrew Errington
On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 16:06, you wrote: > > On Thu, 1 Feb 2007, Andrew Errington wrote: > >> On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 11:39, you wrote: > >>> Dear Linuxer, > >>> I was wondering, in Linux can you have stand alone apps? For example, > >>> "sol.exe" is Solitaire on Windows, It can be run without being > >>>

Re: Stand-alone Executables

2007-01-31 Thread nick
> On Thu, 1 Feb 2007, Andrew Errington wrote: > >> On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 11:39, you wrote: >>> Dear Linuxer, >>> I was wondering, in Linux can you have stand alone apps? For example, >>> "sol.exe" is Solitaire on Windows, It can be run without being >>> 'Installed'. So I guess I am asking can you hav

Re: Compatibility between distros

2007-01-31 Thread John Carter
On Wed, 31 Jan 2007, Kerry Mayes wrote: So "alien" isn't worth trying? (For someone who _really doesn't_ know what they are doing?) I have had quite a few successes with Alien. My guess is where is does well is when there is not a lot of pre and post install script fiddling. Where the packa

Re: Hardware Compatibility...

2007-01-31 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Thursday 01 February 2007, Don Gould wrote: > Nick Rout has advised that this cam should be supported. Neil is going > to retest it and I will update the wiki accordingly. Ditto for the scanner thingie-whatsit please. See:- http://solutions.brother.com/linux/sol/printer/linux/sane_drivers.html

Re: Stand-alone Executables

2007-01-31 Thread John Carter
On Thu, 1 Feb 2007, Andrew Errington wrote: On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 11:39, you wrote: Dear Linuxer, I was wondering, in Linux can you have stand alone apps? For example, "sol.exe" is Solitaire on Windows, It can be run without being 'Installed'. So I guess I am asking can you have programs that you

Re: OT: Re: electric bike

2007-01-31 Thread Andrew Errington
On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 14:42, you wrote: > Does it not work in the rain? Or are you concerned about traction? Lol! No, silly, I would get wet! A

Re: Hardware Compatibility...

2007-01-31 Thread Don Gould
Nick Rout has advised that this cam should be supported. Neil is going to retest it and I will update the wiki accordingly. Thanks your help Nick. Don Gould wrote: http://clug.net.nz/index.php/Hardware I've edited the above page to include a list of hardware that Neil and I have found isn't

RE: OT: Re: electric bike

2007-01-31 Thread Craig FALCONER
Does it not work in the rain? Or are you concerned about traction? -Original Message- From: Andrew Errington [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 1 February 2007 1:59 p.m. To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz Subject: Re: OT: Re: electric bike [1] It started raining

Re: OT: Re: electric bike

2007-01-31 Thread Andrew Errington
On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 13:48, you wrote: > > On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 13:20, you wrote: > > Today I fitted the electric > > wheel kit I bought on TradeMe to my wife's bike. I won't give you the > > minutiae, just the executive summary: > > [snip] > > > [1] It started raining > > Que? Its a beautiful day

Re: OT: Re: electric bike

2007-01-31 Thread nick
> On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 13:20, you wrote: > Today I fitted the electric > wheel kit I bought on TradeMe to my wife's bike. I won't give you the > minutiae, just the executive summary: > [snip] > [1] It started raining > Que? Its a beautiful day central city!

Re: OT: Re: electric bike

2007-01-31 Thread Andrew Errington
On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 13:20, you wrote: > Still off-topic, but any update on the electric bike, how it is running > and whether you are happy with the kit, Andrew? Hi, thanks for your interest. My bike is still going well. Unfortunately the epoxy I used to secure the freewheel sprocket to the hub

Re: Network Cables wanted for a good home...

2007-01-31 Thread Rik Tindall
Don Gould wrote: Firefox and Open Office (if it will run). Abiword & GnuCash if not. Why are you talking about GnuCash? You are right. I meant Gnumeric. (5.45-10am sleep). Isn't that a cash book? How do you see having that on the platform as being a benefit to our community users? -

Re: Network Cables wanted for a good home...

2007-01-31 Thread Don Gould
Rik Tindall wrote: Neil was buggering about with a light weight window manager the other day that seemed to work quite well on my Toshiba laptop. Firefox and Open Office (if it will run). Abiword & GnuCash if not. Why are you talking about GnuCash? Isn't that a cash book? How do you see

Re: OT: Re: electric bike

2007-01-31 Thread Robert Fraser
Still off-topic, but any update on the electric bike, how it is running and whether you are happy with the kit, Andrew?

Re: Network Cables wanted for a good home...

2007-01-31 Thread Rik Tindall
Don Gould wrote: ROFL! :) I'd say two chae, but I can't spell it and I know that Chris would rightly chime in on that... Touche, on our gnuru's behalf :) Debian Sarge in a light weight configuration. Neil was buggering about with a light weight window manager the other day that seemed t

Re: Stand-alone Executables

2007-01-31 Thread Kale Worsley
Cool. Thanks. On 2/1/07, Andrew Errington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 11:39, you wrote: > Dear Linuxer, > I was wondering, in Linux can you have stand alone apps? For example, > "sol.exe" is Solitaire on Windows, It can be run without being > 'Installed'. So I guess I am ask

Re: Stand-alone Executables

2007-01-31 Thread Andrew Errington
On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 11:39, you wrote: > Dear Linuxer, > I was wondering, in Linux can you have stand alone apps? For example, > "sol.exe" is Solitaire on Windows, It can be run without being > 'Installed'. So I guess I am asking can you have programs that you don't > install and can just run off yo

Stand-alone Executables

2007-01-31 Thread Kale Worsley
Dear Linuxer, I was wondering, in Linux can you have stand alone apps? For example, "sol.exe" is Solitaire on Windows, It can be run without being 'Installed'. So I guess I am asking can you have programs that you don't install and can just run off your desktop or something to that nature. Thank

Hardware Compatibility...

2007-01-31 Thread Don Gould
http://clug.net.nz/index.php/Hardware I've edited the above page to include a list of hardware that Neil and I have found isn't supported under Linux. Cheers Don -- Don Gould www.thinkdesignprint.co.nz - www.tcn.bowenvale.co.nz - www.bowenvale.co.nz - www.hearingbooks.co.nz - www.buxtonsquare

RE: Unix for absolute newbies. Was: Compatibility between distros

2007-01-31 Thread Brett Davidson
On Wednesday 31 January 2007, Nick Rout wrote: > On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 21:12:49 +1300 > > Christopher Sawtell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > However-2. I installed PC-BSD the other month and found the install > > process by far the simplest I have experienced. While it may be > > heresy to say it h

Re: Network Cables wanted for a good home...

2007-01-31 Thread Don Gould
Even less than that at Computer Dynamics As I said, it was a very general shout out to anyone who's got some sitting collecting dust. Cheers Don Volker Kuhlmann wrote: Will offcuts do? Between half a meter and a few meters in length. Solid rather than stranded. If you still have to pay fo

Re: Network Cables wanted for a good home...

2007-01-31 Thread Don Gould
ROFL! I'd say two chae, but I can't spell it and I know that Chris would rightly chime in on that... Debian Sarge in a light weight configuration. Neil was buggering about with a light weight window manager the other day that seemed to work quite well on my Toshiba laptop. Firefox and Open

Re: Compatibility between distros

2007-01-31 Thread Kale Worsley
If you cared to give us an example of what you're trying to do, I'm sure we'd all love to help suggest different ways to achieve it! Well, I don't have anything in mind, in the way of an example, I just wanted to keep my options open for later I guess. Thanks for all the help. - Kale

Re: Shutdown during boot [SOLVED - really this time]

2007-01-31 Thread Carl Cerecke
The PC has always been noisy. In fact, it had two case fans when I bought it! I ripped one out straight away. Just cheap fans I guess. Cheers, Carl. On 31/01/07, Robert Fisher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Plugged in the case fan again, and haven't had the problem since. Much > noisier though.

Re: Network Cables wanted for a good home...

2007-01-31 Thread Rik Tindall
Don, your mother should have told you "give a STUPID answer, get more STUPID questions".. Like, where are the PCs set up for use?.. CRRA computers, all gnu/linux? No, Windows Vista on all machines. I'm going to ask Microsoft if they'd like to sponsor the network cables that Chris suggest

Re:

2007-01-31 Thread Rik Tindall
Josh James wrote: yeah it's just the one ntfs partition on the ide drive how do i edit the fstab if i cant get into linux Your easiest option is probably to boot xp & suck the pix across to the fat32 part'. then remove the second disk & reboot to ubuntu & collect them from there - does ubuntu

Re: Network Cables wanted for a good home...

2007-01-31 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
> Will offcuts do? Between half a meter and a few meters in length. > Solid rather than stranded. If you still have to pay for the plugs, don't bother, 3m cables are $3 at tastech.co.nz. And they're flexible. Or try cablesdirect.co.nz Volker -- Volker Kuhlmann is list0570 with t

Re: Unix for absolute newbies. Was: Compatibility between distros

2007-01-31 Thread Nick Rout
On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 22:10:52 +1300 Christopher Sawtell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wednesday 31 January 2007, Nick Rout wrote: > > On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 21:12:49 +1300 > > > > Christopher Sawtell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > However-2. I installed PC-BSD the other month and found the install

Re:

2007-01-31 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Wednesday 31 January 2007, Josh James wrote: > yeah it's just the one ntfs partition on the ide drive how do i edit the > fstab if i cant get into linux You use a rescue disk. Preferably the one which you used to install Linux in the first place, but if that's no longer available any one will d

Re: Network Cables wanted for a good home...

2007-01-31 Thread Don Gould
Rik my mother always told me "ask a STUPID question, get a STUPID answer". Rik Tindall wrote: Don Gould wrote: www.crra.org.nz I've already got switches and computers, all gnu/linux? No, Windows Vista on all machines. I'm going to ask Microsoft if they'd like to sponsor the network cabl

Re: Network Cables wanted for a good home...

2007-01-31 Thread Don Gould
All and any donations of gear are welcome. I'm planning on cataloging the stuff so that other members can beg and borrow if they have a requirement. Cheers Don yuri wrote: On 31/01/07, Robert Fisher wrote: > On 31/01/07, Don Gould wrote: >> If anyone has any redundant cat 3 or 5 network ca

Re:

2007-01-31 Thread Josh James
yeah it's just the one ntfs partition on the ide drive how do i edit the fstab if i cant get into linux On 1/31/07, Rik Tindall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Josh James wrote: > my ubuntu windows system has freaked out > > i have two sata drives one 120 gig for windows xp on 250 gig split in > hal

Re: Unix for absolute newbies. Was: Compatibility between distros

2007-01-31 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Wednesday 31 January 2007, Nick Rout wrote: > On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 21:12:49 +1300 > > Christopher Sawtell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > However-2. I installed PC-BSD the other month and found the install > > process by far the simplest I have experienced. While it may be heresy to > > say it her

Re: Unix for absolute newbies. Was: Compatibility between distros

2007-01-31 Thread Nick Rout
On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 21:12:49 +1300 Christopher Sawtell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > However-2. I installed PC-BSD the other month and found the install process > by > far the simplest I have experienced. While it may be heresy to say it here, I > can duck the missiles, it just worked for me. It

Re: Network Cables wanted for a good home...

2007-01-31 Thread yuri
On 31/01/07, Robert Fisher wrote: > On 31/01/07, Don Gould wrote: >> If anyone has any redundant cat 3 or 5 network cables lurnking in dusty >> boxes then I'd like to hear about it. > > Will offcuts do? Between half a meter and a few meters in length. > Solid rather than stranded. > Just remembe

Re: Network Cables wanted for a good home...

2007-01-31 Thread Robert Fisher
> On 31/01/07, Don Gould wrote: >> If anyone has any redundant cat 3 or 5 network cables lurnking in dusty >> boxes then I'd like to hear about it. > > Will offcuts do? Between half a meter and a few meters in length. > Solid rather than stranded. > Just remember that you will have a short life wi

Re: Unix for absolute newbies. Was: Compatibility between distros

2007-01-31 Thread yuri
On 31/01/07, Christopher Sawtell wrote: However-2. I installed PC-BSD the other month and found the install process by far the simplest I have experienced. While it may be heresy to say it here, I can duck the missiles, it just worked for me. It comes with a packaging system all of its own as wel

Re: Compatibility between distros

2007-01-31 Thread Jim Cheetham
On Wed, Jan 31, 2007 at 04:38:15PM +1300, Andrew Errington wrote: > I'd recommend a Debian-based distro as I think the apt packaging system > (using .deb files) is most excellent. Andrew: You know, internally the .deb files are "just a tarball" in the same way that .rpm files are "just a tarball

Re: Network Cables wanted for a good home...

2007-01-31 Thread yuri
On 31/01/07, Don Gould wrote: If anyone has any redundant cat 3 or 5 network cables lurnking in dusty boxes then I'd like to hear about it. Will offcuts do? Between half a meter and a few meters in length. Solid rather than stranded. I've spent a few days fitting off 19" patch panels in a new

Unix for absolute newbies. Was: Compatibility between distros

2007-01-31 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Wednesday 31 January 2007, Dave G wrote: > However I have had some success recommending PCLinuxOS (rpm based) to > new windoze converts as it has a familiar look and feel to it, which can > some find comforting However-2. I installed PC-BSD the other month and found the install process by far

Re: Linux as a firewall server

2007-01-31 Thread Robert Fisher
> Rob, > > I'd like to put my hands up for those if no one else takes them. > You can have one. (The other has gone) I will email you next week when we get home from New Plymouth. Rob PS - I am guessing from your earlier posts today that you have not yet experinced the ease of setting up a firew

Re: Network Cables wanted for a good home...

2007-01-31 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Wednesday 31 January 2007, Don Gould wrote: > If anyone has any redundant cat 3 or 5 network cables lurnking in dusty > boxes then I'd like to hear about it. > > I'm in the process of attempting to set up a public resource center for > our older community, here in Riccarton, to be able to use th