auction time

2003-06-26 Thread Greg McCarroll
Well its nearly YAPC::Europe again and that means we have to find some extra items to sell all in order to make sure that the conference pays its bills and future conferences can continue to keep the price down. So does anyone have anything that they think would sell? You can give something

Re: auction time

2003-06-26 Thread Rafael Garcia-Suarez
Greg McCarroll wrote: So does anyone have anything that they think would sell? I could sell a running joke, or another recurrent mention of something, for the P5P summaries. - That's not like I was copying on Piers. Is it ?

Re: auction time

2003-06-26 Thread Peter Sergeant
ps I am Jos' and Elaine's bitch I believe Elaine prefers 'pussy-whipped towel boy', but my memory may be faulty... +Pete -- A cucumber should be well-sliced, dressed with pepper and vinegar, and then thrown out. -- Samuel Johnson

Re: auction time

2003-06-26 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Leon Brocard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Greg McCarroll sent the following bits through the ether: So does anyone have anything that they think would sell? I would just like to point out that I have already been auctioned off this month and that auctioning me off again would create a

Re: auction time

2003-06-26 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Rafael Garcia-Suarez ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Greg McCarroll wrote: So does anyone have anything that they think would sell? I could sell a running joke, or another recurrent mention of something, for the P5P summaries. - That's not like I was copying on Piers. Is it ? straw poll -

Re: auction time

2003-06-26 Thread Rafael Garcia-Suarez
Greg McCarroll wrote: * Rafael Garcia-Suarez ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I could sell a running joke, or another recurrent mention of something, for the P5P summaries. - That's not like I was copying on Piers. Is it ? straw poll - would anyone be interested in bidding on this? More

failed tests

2003-06-26 Thread Cal Henderson
hi, could someone/anyone test a module for me? it builds fine on all my machines but keeps failing for cpan testers. it's non-xs and very small: Inline::Interp 0.03 http://search.cpan.org/CPAN/authors/id/I/IA/IAMCAL/Inline-Interp-0.03.tar.gz the error i'm getting from cpan testers is during

Re: failed tests

2003-06-26 Thread Ian Brayshaw
On Thursday 26 June 2003 9:13 am, Cal Henderson wrote: hi, could someone/anyone test a module for me? it builds fine on all my machines but keeps failing for cpan testers. it's non-xs and very small: Inline::Interp 0.03 I haven't tried it, but in t/01basic.t don't you mean $@ not $! ?

Re: auction time

2003-06-26 Thread Jos I. Boumans
On Thursday, Jun 26, 2003, at 09:22 Europe/Amsterdam, Greg McCarroll wrote: * Leon Brocard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Greg McCarroll sent the following bits through the ether: So does anyone have anything that they think would sell? I would just like to point out that I have already been

Nested maps

2003-06-26 Thread David Cantrell
I finally got round to packaging my NestedMap module, and have uploaded it to CPAN. Bug reports, code review, pedantic documentation-testers from heck, and steak and kidney pies are welcome. -- David Cantrell

Re: auction time

2003-06-26 Thread Elaine -HFB- Ashton
Peter Sergeant [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoth: * *I believe Elaine prefers 'pussy-whipped towel boy', but my memory may be *faulty... No, he was unsuitable for that since he kept bringing me orange towels. I won't be auctioning myself off either as I have enough to do with helping to keep Jarkko from

Re: failed tests

2003-06-26 Thread Jonathan Stowe
On Thu, 26 Jun 2003, Cal Henderson wrote: hi, could someone/anyone test a module for me? it builds fine on all my machines but keeps failing for cpan testers. it's non-xs and very small: Inline::Interp 0.03 http://search.cpan.org/CPAN/authors/id/I/IA/IAMCAL/Inline-Interp-0.03.tar.gz

Re: failed tests

2003-06-26 Thread Cal Henderson
At 09:33 GMT 26.06.03, Ian Brayshaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: : I haven't tried it, but in t/01basic.t don't you mean $@ not $! ? argh. thankyou --cal

Re: failed tests

2003-06-26 Thread Ian Brayshaw
On Thursday 26 June 2003 10:12 am, Cal Henderson wrote: At 09:33 GMT 26.06.03, Ian Brayshaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: : I haven't tried it, but in t/01basic.t don't you mean $@ not $! ? argh. thankyou Not a problem. You might also want to have a look at Test::More and Test::Exception. They

Contracts for contractors

2003-06-26 Thread Jonathan Peterson
Hi folx, Do any of you wild 'living life on the edge' contractor types have a standard contract that you use (and, by extension, that I can use)? I'm looking for normal monthly work contracts rather than fixed-price job type contracts. Jon P.S. If these are things that you all have to pay

Re: XML::LibXML::Common encodeToUTF8() annoyances

2003-06-26 Thread Jonathan Peterson
Andrew Wilson wrote: On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 11:00:54AM -0700, Toby Corkindale wrote: Gah! my head-wall; Your head has a wall method! What does it do? It sends a message to everyone currently logged in to his head, preceded by Broadcast Message from ... -- Jonathan Peterson

[PUB] Meet Jos on Sat

2003-06-26 Thread Leon Brocard
Jos is in town thus we are going to the pub to show him how to drink. When: This Saturday (28th), from 6pm-ish Where: The Window Castle http://grault.net/cgi-bin/grubstreet.pl?Windsor_Castle,_W8_7AR You are all welcome to join us! Leon -- Leon

Re: [PUB] Meet Jos on Sat

2003-06-26 Thread Leon Brocard
Leon Brocard sent the following bits through the ether: Where: The Window Castle Window Castle? I must be going mad. Windsor Castle, as in the URL of course. Leon -- Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/ scribot.http://www.scribot.com/

Re: auction time

2003-06-26 Thread Peter Sergeant
I won't be auctioning myself off either as I have enough to do with helping to keep Jarkko from going nuts over the elusive 5.8.1. Maybe we could auction you off Pete...Just think of the joy you'd give to Uri for 20 quid :) Jokes about Uri's stem[1] aside, I'll go on the record as saying I'm

Re: auction time

2003-06-26 Thread the hatter
On Thu, 26 Jun 2003, Peter Sergeant wrote: [2] Get out clause: as long as my g/f doesn't complain (selling my kidneys would of course violate this...) Would she complain if she won the auction for your kidneys ? the hatter

[sigs] a small collection

2003-06-26 Thread alex
it's been a while, as always, ignore if you don't care, but for those that do: super simple code, with very gentle obfu. eval packH*,join,qw757365205469653a3a48616e646c653b7375622054494548 414e444c457b626c6573735c24697d737562205052494e547b73656c65637424712c2471

Re: [sigs] a small collection

2003-06-26 Thread alex
snip my maze sig, in 6 lines for those that missed it before. I've been hacking for ages trying to get it down, but i'm buggered if i can find any more spare chars (i also tried doing it with bitwise operators): $p=1;[EMAIL PROTECTED]$_47$_751,($p-1)%47$m[$p-1]ne|?$p-2:0,($p+2)

Re: [sigs] a small collection

2003-06-26 Thread Peter Sergeant
$_=just another technical yahoo!;@b=sort{rand cmp [EMAIL PROTECTED]//;$|= print\ec;[EMAIL PROTECTED];sub p{print\e[$_[1];$_[0]H$_[2]}while($e=$a[$g++]){ $f=0;{redo if$b[$f++]ne$e}$b[$f-1]=0;p($f,1,$);$i=$f-$g0?1:-1;while($f !=$g){select$q,$q,$q,p($f,2,$e)/20;p(($f+=$i)-$i,2,$)}p($f,3,$e.$/)}

Re: [sigs] a small collection

2003-06-26 Thread alex
snip Running obfuscated code is A VERY VERY BAD IDEA. yep, although at least you know where i live. (or at least some do...). also i hope most of you know i'm a nice kind of chap who isn't so lame as to do something malicious (lame enough to write obfuscated sigs though..). Alex +Pete

Re: [sigs] a small collection

2003-06-26 Thread Peter Sergeant
yep, although at least you know where i live. (or at least some do...). also i hope most of you know i'm a nice kind of chap who isn't so lame as to do something malicious (lame enough to write obfuscated sigs though..). Windows email viruses also often send themselves from seemingly

Re: Contracts for contractors

2003-06-26 Thread Luis Campos de Carvalho
Jonathan Peterson wrote: P.S. If these are things that you all have to pay solicitors hundreds of quid to draw up for you then just say, I'm not trying to get stuff on the cheap. I'm curious. Elaine just used the term 'quid' a few emails ago, and now Jonathan. Could someone please explain

Re: XML::LibXML::Common encodeToUTF8() annoyances

2003-06-26 Thread Luis Campos de Carvalho
Jonathan Peterson wrote: Andrew Wilson wrote: Toby Corkindale wrote: Gah! my head-wall; Your head has a wall method! What does it do? It sends a message to everyone currently logged in to his head, preceded by Broadcast Message from ... funny Oh. I see. At a first glance, I tought that

Re: Contracts for contractors

2003-06-26 Thread Sam Smith
On Thu, 26 Jun 2003, Luis Campos de Carvalho wrote: Jonathan Peterson wrote: P.S. If these are things that you all have to pay solicitors hundreds of quid to draw up for you then just say, I'm not trying to get stuff on the cheap. I'm curious. Elaine just used the term 'quid' a few

Re: Contracts for contractors

2003-06-26 Thread Dave Cross
From: Luis Campos de Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 6/26/03 12:50:46 PM I'm curious. Elaine just used the term 'quid' a few emails ago, and now Jonathan. Could someone please explain what is a 'quid'? Quid is the real name of the UK's monetary unit. You might hear it called a pound by

Re: Contracts for contractors

2003-06-26 Thread Redvers Davies
On Thu, 2003-06-26 at 12:50, Luis Campos de Carvalho wrote: Elaine just used the term 'quid' a few emails ago, and now Jonathan. Could someone please explain what is a 'quid'? A quid is another word for a pound (UKP). One of the things that I found hardest to explain to Tracy was when you

Re: Contracts for contractors

2003-06-26 Thread Luis Campos de Carvalho
Dave Cross wrote: Quid is the real name of the UK's monetary unit. You might hear it called a pound by people who don't know what they are talking about, but quid is the proper term. A quid is made up of 20 shillings, each of which contains 12 pennies. Thank you very much, Dave. Please allow

Re: Contracts for contractors

2003-06-26 Thread alex
snip Quid is the real name of the UK's monetary unit. You might hear it called a pound by people who don't know what they are talking about, but quid is the proper term. A quid is made up of 20 shillings, each of which contains 12 pennies. There are also larger amounts called a monkey and

Re: Contracts for contractors

2003-06-26 Thread Jasper McCrea
Sam Smith wrote: On Thu, 26 Jun 2003, Luis Campos de Carvalho wrote: Jonathan Peterson wrote: P.S. If these are things that you all have to pay solicitors hundreds of quid to draw up for you then just say, I'm not trying to get stuff on the cheap. I'm curious. Elaine just

Re: Contracts for contractors

2003-06-26 Thread Andy Mendelsohn
On Thursday, June 26, 2003, at 02:04 pm, Dave Cross wrote: A quid is made up of 20 shillings, each of which contains 12 pennies. Sorry to correct you Dave, but i think you'll find a quid is made of of 20 bob.

Re: Contracts for contractors

2003-06-26 Thread Dave Cross
From: Luis Campos de Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 6/26/03 1:19:39 PM Thank you very much, Dave. Please allow me just one more question. I would like to know the relation stated below: (\d+) monkey == (\d+) pony == 1 quid == 20 shillings == 240 pennies A pony is 25 quid and a

Re: Contracts for contractors

2003-06-26 Thread Luis Campos de Carvalho
Redvers Davies wrote: On Thu, 2003-06-26 at 12:50, Luis Campos de Carvalho wrote: Elaine just used the term 'quid' a few emails ago, and now Jonathan. Could someone please explain what is a 'quid'? A quid is another word for a pound (UKP). One of the things that I found hardest to explain

Re: Contracts for contractors

2003-06-26 Thread Andrew Wilson
On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 10:19:39AM -0300, Luis Campos de Carvalho wrote: Dave Cross wrote: Quid is the real name of the UK's monetary unit. You might hear it called a pound by people who don't know what they are talking about, but quid is the proper term. A quid is made up of 20

Re: Contracts for contractors

2003-06-26 Thread Shevek
On Thu, 26 Jun 2003, Luis Campos de Carvalho wrote: Redvers Davies wrote: On Thu, 2003-06-26 at 12:50, Luis Campos de Carvalho wrote: Hmm, sounds like Acme::Quid to me. Interesting. And what such a module would do? Interestingly enough, almost exactly the same as Math::Units? S.

Re: Contracts for contractors

2003-06-26 Thread Jonathan Stowe
On Thu, 26 Jun 2003, Luis Campos de Carvalho wrote: Jonathan Peterson wrote: P.S. If these are things that you all have to pay solicitors hundreds of quid to draw up for you then just say, I'm not trying to get stuff on the cheap. I'm curious. Elaine just used the term 'quid'

UK Money, again

2003-06-26 Thread Luis Campos de Carvalho
Dave Cross wrote: A pony is 25 quid and a monkey is 500 quid. But as I said before, you might want to avoid using them as these terms carry a slight inference that the money is being used for criminal purposes (for example a bribe). Oh, I see. So what is the 'banking' name of UK money? I

Re: UK Money, again

2003-06-26 Thread Redvers Davies
On Thu, 2003-06-26 at 13:49, Luis Campos de Carvalho wrote: Oh, I see. So what is the 'banking' name of UK money? I mean, what is the official name for the UK money? Not the Euro :-D Red

Re: Contracts for contractors

2003-06-26 Thread Luis Campos de Carvalho
Luis Campos de Carvalho wrote: Hmm, sounds like Acme::Quid to me. Interesting. And what such a module would do? Interestingly enough, almost exactly the same as Math::Units? I don't know. Math::Units is able to use UK measures and convert UK money as it was presented on the last emails?

Re: Contracts for contractors

2003-06-26 Thread Dave Cross
From: Andy Mendelsohn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 6/26/03 1:26:15 PM On Thursday, June 26, 2003, at 02:04 pm, Dave Cross wrote: A quid is made up of 20 shillings, each of which contains 12 pennies. Sorry to correct you Dave, but i think you'll find a quid is made of of 20 bob. Bob and

Re: Contracts for contractors

2003-06-26 Thread muppet
Luis Campos de Carvalho said: This is the first time I meet a monetary system that is not based on [base ten numbers] that's because the english system in question dates from a time when doing things in a metric/decimal way hadn't been discovered to be a generally good idea. i believe they

Re: Contracts for contractors

2003-06-26 Thread Joel Bernstein
On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 07:01:29AM -0700, Dave Cross wrote: From: Andy Mendelsohn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 6/26/03 1:26:15 PM On Thursday, June 26, 2003, at 02:04 pm, Dave Cross wrote: A quid is made up of 20 shillings, each of which contains 12 pennies. Sorry to correct you

Re: UK Money, again

2003-06-26 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 07:10:56AM -0700, Dave Cross wrote: There are others like a fathom (6 feet - but used to measure depths not lengths or heights), a chain (22 yards - the length of a cricket pitch I think) and a furlong (220 yards). And a chain is 4 rods (or poles or perches) which

Re: Contracts for contractors

2003-06-26 Thread Andrew Wilson
On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 03:09:19PM +0100, Joel Bernstein wrote: On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 07:01:29AM -0700, Dave Cross wrote: From: Andy Mendelsohn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 6/26/03 1:26:15 PM On Thursday, June 26, 2003, at 02:04 pm, Dave Cross wrote: A quid is made up of 20

Re: UK Money, again

2003-06-26 Thread Dominic Mitchell
Luis Campos de Carvalho wrote: Dave Cross wrote: A pony is 25 quid and a monkey is 500 quid. But as I said before, you might want to avoid using them as these terms carry a slight inference that the money is being used for criminal purposes (for example a bribe). Oh, I see. So what is the

Re: UK Money, again

2003-06-26 Thread Dominic Mitchell
Dave Cross wrote: Here's a brief guide to our measures of length. 1 foot is 12 inches 1 yard is 3 feet 1 mile is 1760 yards There are others like a fathom (6 feet - but used to measure depths not lengths or heights), a chain (22 yards - the length of a cricket pitch I think) and a furlong (220

Re: UK money, again

2003-06-26 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 03:16:58PM +0100, Andrew Wilson wrote: We currenlty have the following coins: 1pround copper 2pround copper but for the past few years actually made from steel coated to give the same colour as the old alloy, because the old alloy was becoming too expensive

Re: Contracts for contractors

2003-06-26 Thread Nigel Hamilton
(\d+) monkey == (\d+) pony == 1 quid == 20 shillings == 240 pennies A pony is 25 quid and a monkey is 500 quid. Does £1000 == a 'Gorilla'? -- Nigel Hamilton Turbo10 Metasearch Engine email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel:+44 (0) 207 987 5460 fax:+44 (0) 207 987 5468

Re: UK Money, again

2003-06-26 Thread Ian Malpass
On Thu, 26 Jun 2003, Nicholas Clark wrote: Meanwhile, which is heavier, an ounce of feathers or an ounce of gold? In air, an ounce of gold. In a vacuum, they weigh the same. Ian - -- The soul would have no rainbows if

Re: UK money, again

2003-06-26 Thread Roger Burton West
On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 03:16:58PM +0100, Andrew Wilson wrote: We currenlty have the following coins: 20phexagonal silver 50phexagonal silver s/x/pt/g R

Re: UK Money, again

2003-06-26 Thread Iain Tatch
On Thursday, June 26, 2003, 3:18:39 PM, Dave Thorn wrote: DT And an acre, which is/was a measurement of the area a team of oxen could DT plough in one day, or (4,840 square yards). DT I wonder if they had a measure for oxen standards. *.weights-and-measures, metric, imperial, american, the lot,

Re: UK Money, again

2003-06-26 Thread Ian Malpass
On Thu, 26 Jun 2003, Nicholas Clark wrote: Meanwhile, which is heavier, an ounce of feathers or an ounce of gold? In air, an ounce of gold. In a vacuum, they weigh the same. Ian - -- The soul would have no rainbows if

[Enough]: Thank you all [Was: Re: UK Money, again]

2003-06-26 Thread Luis Campos de Carvalho
Dave Cross wrote: Here's a brief guide to our measures of length. 1 foot is 12 inches 1 yard is 3 feet 1 mile is 1760 yards There are others like a fathom (6 feet - but used to measure depths not lengths or heights), a chain (22 yards - the length of a cricket pitch I think) and a furlong (220

Re: UK Money, again

2003-06-26 Thread the hatter
On Thu, 26 Jun 2003, Dominic Mitchell wrote: Fortune saves the day with essential facts such as: 1.79 x 10^12 furlongs per fortnight -- it's not just a good idea, it's the law! If it comes to obscure units, I always had a great fondness for the nanocentury: %% (fortunes) How

Re: UK Money, again

2003-06-26 Thread muppet
Dave Cross said: Currently it's called sterling. Soon it will become the Euro. Yes, but it's positively simple compared with our systems of length and weight :) Is there more? Cool! =-] Can you point me somewhere on the net where I can (read|learn) about this? Thank you very, very,

Re: [Enough]: Thank you all [Was: Re: UK Money, again]

2003-06-26 Thread Jasper McCrea
Luis Campos de Carvalho wrote: Dave Cross wrote: Here's a brief guide to our measures of length. 1 foot is 12 inches 1 yard is 3 feet 1 mile is 1760 yards There are others like a fathom (6 feet - but used to measure depths not lengths or heights), a chain (22 yards - the length

Re: Contracts for contractors

2003-06-26 Thread Dominic Mitchell
Nigel Hamilton wrote: Does £1000 == a 'Gorilla'? No, but £2000 is an Archer. :-) -Dom -- | Semantico: creators of major online resources | | URL: http://www.semantico.com/ | | Tel: +44 (1273) 72 | | Address: 33 Bond St.,

Re: Contracts for contractors

2003-06-26 Thread David Cantrell
On Thursday, June 26, 2003 14:26 +0100 Andy Mendelsohn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday, June 26, 2003, at 02:04 pm, Dave Cross wrote: A quid is made up of 20 shillings, each of which contains 12 pennies. Sorry to correct you Dave, but i think you'll find a quid is made of of 20 bob. So is

Re: UK Money, again

2003-06-26 Thread Anders Hellström
At 14.35 + 03-06-26, the hatter wrote: If you're measuring speeds, you obviously need a time unit to go with your length, I propose wider adoption of the millifortnight - about 20 minutes. I prefer the microfortnight, 1.2096 seconds. -- Anders Hellström

Re: UK Money, again

2003-06-26 Thread muppet
Ian Malpass said: On Thu, 26 Jun 2003, Nicholas Clark wrote: Meanwhile, which is heavier, an ounce of feathers or an ounce of gold? In air, an ounce of gold. In a vacuum, they weigh the same. bzzt! they always weigh the same, because the same mass experiences the same amount of

Re: UK money, again

2003-06-26 Thread Andrew Wilson
On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 03:27:21PM +0100, Nicholas Clark wrote: 5p round silver 10p round silver 20p hexagonal silver 50p hexagonal silver Both are heptagonal - they have 7 sides. This can surprise foreigners Indeed they are. Braino on my part. Would you believe I actually hoked one

Re: UK Money, again

2003-06-26 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 03:27:59PM +0100, Ian Malpass wrote: On Thu, 26 Jun 2003, Nicholas Clark wrote: Meanwhile, which is heavier, an ounce of feathers or an ounce of gold? In air, an ounce of gold. In a vacuum, they weigh the same. No, because it is a different trick question An ounce

Re: UK money, again

2003-06-26 Thread David R. Baird
We currenlty have the following coins: --- 20p hexagonal silver 50p hexagonal silver --- andrew Um, I think septagonal is the accurate term: http://www.tclayton.demon.co.uk/pics/dec20.html http://www.tclayton.demon.co.uk/pics/dec50.html Dave (Just Another Pedantic Hacker)

Re: UK Money, again

2003-06-26 Thread Joel Bernstein
On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 04:40:09PM +0200, Anders Hellstr?m wrote: At 14.35 + 03-06-26, the hatter wrote: If you're measuring speeds, you obviously need a time unit to go with your length, I propose wider adoption of the millifortnight - about 20 minutes. I prefer the microfortnight,

Re: UK Money, again

2003-06-26 Thread Rob Thompson
So... what you're telling me here, is that if I take an ounce of feathers and place them on a set of scales, then it will weigh less than an ounce? Or that ounce of gold weigh will weigh more than an ounce? From: Ian Malpass [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 15:28:40 +0100 (BST) On Thu,

Re: UK Money, again

2003-06-26 Thread Joel Bernstein
On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 03:42:11PM +0100, Nicholas Clark wrote: On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 03:27:59PM +0100, Ian Malpass wrote: On Thu, 26 Jun 2003, Nicholas Clark wrote: Meanwhile, which is heavier, an ounce of feathers or an ounce of gold? In air, an ounce of gold. In a vacuum, they

Re: UK Money, again

2003-06-26 Thread Paul Johnson
muppet said: volume measures are weird, too: ounces, cups, pints, quarts, gallons, barrels, thimbles, something smaller than an ounce that i can't remember One of my favourite recipes calls for a scant gill of milk, which I always found rather poetic. -- Paul Johnson - [EMAIL

Re: UK Money, again

2003-06-26 Thread Dave Cross
From: Nicholas Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 6/26/03 2:19:10 PM Meanwhile, which is heavier, an ounce of feathers or an ounce of gold? I believe they are the same. However if your question was which is heavier a _pound_ of feathers or a _pound_ of gold? then the answer (surprisingly) is a

Re: UK Money, again

2003-06-26 Thread Chris Benson
On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 07:10:56AM -0700, Dave Cross wrote: I mean, what is the official name for the UK money? Currently it's called sterling. Soon it will become the Euro. For some value of soon. -- Chris Benson

Re: UK Money, again

2003-06-26 Thread Andrew Wilson
On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 04:50:04PM +0200, Paul Johnson wrote: muppet said: volume measures are weird, too: ounces, cups, pints, quarts, gallons, barrels, thimbles, something smaller than an ounce that i can't remember One of my favourite recipes calls for a scant gill of milk,

Re[2]: UK money, again

2003-06-26 Thread Iain Tatch
On Thursday, June 26, 2003, 3:27:21 PM, Nicholas Clark wrote: 2 pound round silver and brass NC Has the inscription Standing on the shoulders of giants around the edge. NC Anyone tempted to avoid code re-use (Not Invented Here should obtain NC a £2 coin and read it) Does it? Never

Re: Contracts for contractors

2003-06-26 Thread Graham Barr
On Thu, 2003-06-26 at 15:33, David Cantrell wrote: On Thursday, June 26, 2003 14:26 +0100 Andy Mendelsohn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday, June 26, 2003, at 02:04 pm, Dave Cross wrote: A quid is made up of 20 shillings, each of which contains 12 pennies. Sorry to correct you Dave,

Re: UK Money, again

2003-06-26 Thread David Wright
muppet said: volume measures are weird, too: ounces, cups, pints, quarts, gallons, barrels, thimbles, something smaller than an ounce that i can't remember One of my favourite recipes calls for a scant gill of milk, which I always found rather poetic. From what I

Re: Contracts for contractors

2003-06-26 Thread Tamsin
On Thu, 26 Jun 2003, Joel Bernstein wrote: There must be others... Guinea, 21 shillings, or 1 pound, 1 shilling. Still used in horse racing or perhaps pony racing? T.

Re: UK Money, again

2003-06-26 Thread alex
snip there are several (5) multipliers, usually used only on a lot and a bunch: .5x ickle 2x whole 4x damn 7x bleedin' 10x f*ckin' plus combinations, such as a whole, whole lot (2x2x7=28), and a whole damn f*uckin bunch (2x4x10x6=480). however, infinity, or at least the

Re: UK Money, again

2003-06-26 Thread Nicholas Clark
[OK mariachi, how you gonna thread this?] On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 03:45:30PM +0100, Joel Bernstein wrote: On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 03:42:11PM +0100, Nicholas Clark wrote: A Troy ounce is heavier. Which is heavier, a pound of gold or a pound of feathers? How many troy ounces in a troy

Re: UK Money, again

2003-06-26 Thread Paul Johnson
David Wright said: Scottish measures are bigger too (from fond memory), I think they might be 1/5 gill. Ooh, and whilst searching for the correct fraction, I found some other curious Scots quantities: 4 gills = 1 mutchkin 2 mutchkins = 1 chopin Which is well on the way to Brahms and

Re: UK Money, again

2003-06-26 Thread Joel Bernstein
On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 04:20:18PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: however, infinity, or at least the superlative limit of something's magnitude, is brass monkey. actually that's a measure of cold. there is 1 SI unit used as well - the sh*tload as in 1 SI sh*tload of X I think you'll

Re: UK Money, again

2003-06-26 Thread the hatter
On Thu, 26 Jun 2003, Joel Bernstein wrote: On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 04:40:09PM +0200, Anders Hellstr?m wrote: At 14.35 + 03-06-26, the hatter wrote: If you're measuring speeds, you obviously need a time unit to go with your length, I propose wider adoption of the millifortnight - about

Re: UK Money, again

2003-06-26 Thread Redvers Davies
On Thu, 2003-06-26 at 14:51, Chris Benson wrote: For some value of soon. Soon being defined as If i'm here, over my dead body. Hmm, what was I doing on Tuesday again?

Re: UK Money, again

2003-06-26 Thread Jonathan Stowe
On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: there is 1 SI unit used as well - the sh*tload as in 1 SI sh*tload of X Also is the closely related 'Shed' /J\

Re: UK Money, again

2003-06-26 Thread Stray Toaster
On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 03:31:31PM +, the hatter wrote: The best unit is the millihelen - which is defined as the amount of beauty required to launch one ship. My favourite unit is the barn. I don't recall what it is, something like 10^(-26) at a rough guess. Oh, the wit of pyysicists

Re: UK Money, again

2003-06-26 Thread Peter Sergeant
For some value of soon. Soon being defined as If i'm here, over my dead body. Surely the value of 'soon' here means 'as soon as possible', and implies that it would be an exceptionally good thing? /me dons flame-retardant suit, runs, ducks, covers +Pete -- B: Pinky, Are you pondering what

Re: UK Money, again

2003-06-26 Thread Redvers Davies
On Thu, 2003-06-26 at 16:00, Peter Sergeant wrote: For some value of soon. Soon being defined as If i'm here, over my dead body. Surely the value of 'soon' here means 'as soon as possible', and implies that it would be an exceptionally good thing? So you're saying you want me dead? Cool.

Re: UK Money, again

2003-06-26 Thread Shevek
On Thu, 26 Jun 2003, the hatter wrote: Another obscure but official unit which I occassionally use in the correct context is a jiffy, as in just a jiffy, which is actually 1/50th (or occassionally 1/60th of a second depending on what video standard you're using) A jiffy is 1/HZ of a second,

Re: XML::LibXML::Common encodeToUTF8() annoyances

2003-06-26 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 10:56:09AM +0100, Jonathan Peterson wrote: Andrew Wilson wrote: On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 11:00:54AM -0700, Toby Corkindale wrote: Gah! my head-wall; Your head has a wall method! What does it do? It sends a message to everyone currently logged in to his head,

Re: UK Money, again

2003-06-26 Thread Ian Malpass
On Thu, 26 Jun 2003, muppet wrote: Ian Malpass said: On Thu, 26 Jun 2003, Nicholas Clark wrote: Meanwhile, which is heavier, an ounce of feathers or an ounce of gold? In air, an ounce of gold. In a vacuum, they weigh the same. bzzt! they always weigh the same, because the same mass

Re: UK Money, again

2003-06-26 Thread Ian Malpass
On Thu, 26 Jun 2003, Rob Thompson top-quoted: In air, an ounce of gold. In a vacuum, they weigh the same. So... what you're telling me here, is that if I take an ounce of feathers and place them on a set of scales, then it will weigh less than an ounce? Or that ounce of gold weigh will weigh

Re: UK Money, again

2003-06-26 Thread David Cantrell
On Thursday, June 26, 2003 15:19 +0100 Nicholas Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alternatively a chain is 100 links, which sounds almost metric. (Quick, wash your mouth out)(or bah, that sounds too sane to be Imperial) But we're saved by the hundredweight not being a hundred anything. -- David

Re: UK Moneyngton, again

2003-06-26 Thread Chris Devers
On Thu, 26 Jun 2003, Ian Malpass wrote: On Thu, 26 Jun 2003, muppet wrote: Ian Malpass said: On Thu, 26 Jun 2003, Nicholas Clark wrote: Meanwhile, which is heavier, an ounce of feathers or an ounce of gold? In air, an ounce of gold. In a vacuum, they weigh the same. bzzt!

Re: UK Money, again

2003-06-26 Thread Chris Devers
On Thu, 26 Jun 2003, David Cantrell wrote: On Thursday, June 26, 2003 15:19 +0100 Nicholas Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alternatively a chain is 100 links, which sounds almost metric. (Quick, wash your mouth out)(or bah, that sounds too sane to be Imperial) But we're saved by the

Re: UK Money, again

2003-06-26 Thread Chris Devers
On Thu, 26 Jun 2003, Shevek wrote: A jiffy is 1/HZ of a second, where HZ depends on your architecture. On most x86s, it's 1/100. Unless you're using a Pentium, in which case it's 1/101... -- Chris Devers

Re: UK Moneyngton, again

2003-06-26 Thread Ian Malpass
On Thu, 26 Jun 2003, Chris Devers wrote: Bzzt! You're forgetting the effect of uplift in a fluid. Now, of course, we're assuming the feathers are in an uncompressed state But you're forgetting the Manchurian Gambit of 1978, in which it was clearly demonstrated that this very

Re: UK Moneyngton, again

2003-06-26 Thread David Cantrell
On Thursday, June 26, 2003 19:37 +0100 Ian Malpass [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For shame, Mr. Devers! Oh, for shame! The Manchurian Gambit of 1978 has been considered obsolete since 1981, after Lt. Col. Charles Monkfish (rtd.) demonstrated that no feathers could exist at King's Cross station

Re: UK Money, again

2003-06-26 Thread S Watkins
Ian Malpass wrote: No, they'll both have a mass of an ounce. Their weight - the force exerted on them by gravity - differs, due to the different uplift by the air around them. As I mentioned before (assuming this post doesn't beat my last one) I'm assuming uncompressed feathers. Ian ..and what

Re: UK Money, again

2003-06-26 Thread Redvers Davies
On Thu, 2003-06-26 at 18:16, Ian Malpass wrote: No, they'll both have a mass of an ounce. Their weight - the force exerted on them by gravity - differs, due to the different uplift by the air around them. No. Their weight - the force exerted on them by gravity is the same. The force in the

Re: UK Moneyngton, again

2003-06-26 Thread Chris Devers
On Thu, 26 Jun 2003, David Cantrell wrote: On Thursday, June 26, 2003 19:37 +0100 Ian Malpass [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For shame, Mr. Devers! Oh, for shame! The Manchurian Gambit of 1978 has been considered obsolete since 1981, after Lt. Col. Charles Monkfish (rtd.) demonstrated that no

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