Just to continue the exuberance we had in Paris, how about a party to celebrate
Siesta? Maybe when a certain milestone is complete.
Maybe when the london.pm list moves onto siesta.
I don't have an occasion. I don't have a date.
But I do have a venue:
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From: David Hodgkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Monday, July 7, 2003, at 03:41 PM, Raf
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From: Earle Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Eurocracy sucks.
Organization: Strike Force for Indolence and Spiritual Beauty
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Some of you may have heard this from me, some
Rendezvous at: The Tattershall Castle - a boat pub on the Thames at Embankment.
Time: 4 pm onwards
Entrance: 5 / person
Please mail me off-list if interested or if you want to know more.
Ivor
From: Mark Fowler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [ANNOUNCE] Call For Participation: March Techincal Meeting
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 13:03:20 + (GMT)
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The next London Perl Mongers Tech meet will be held mid march, and I'm
looking for talks.
The
On Tuesday, January 28, 2003 1:35 PM, Andy Wardley [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
wrote:
london perl mongers for peace sounds really cool but i would also
respect the view that in terms of Perl Advocacy and gaining mindshare in
corporate land, having Perl associated with political ideology
On Tuesday, January 21, 2003 3:35 PM, Alex McLintock [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
wrote:
At 22:37 20/01/03, you wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jan 2003, Shevek wrote:
I just gave away a 386/8MHz which ran it. Slackware 4.0.
386/8MHz ? Thee were lucky lad !
When I were a boy I had to make do with an
I've been reviewing what I have learned from the LWP stuff I have been doing
for Grubstreet. This involved form filling and POST method.
I was struck with the feeling that boiling down the form data is something that
has probably been done many times over - but a search didn't find anything
Free Open Source Developers Europe Meeting, 8th-9th February in Brussels.
http://www.fosdem.org/
Anyone interested in going?
Ivor.
On Wednesday, January 08, 2003 3:11 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
is anyone interested in giving me some feedback on some software projects i'm
sketching out? if yes, would you get in touch?
Are you free on Thursday Evening, If so, why not come to Penderel's Oak and
On Thursday, December 19, 2002 11:00 AM, Jonathan Peterson
[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
but isn't appearing to here. What's the magic?!
The real magic would be a case insensitive filesystem for *nix. Has
anyone written a kernel mod for Linux that gives you a case preserving
case
Hi all,
Gordon (who was around at last Thursday's social meet) has asked me to post an
invite to the list, for his party on Saturday. He's not subscribed himself
(shame!)
===
Saturday 14th December 7pm
14 Mayfield Gardens, Hanwell, W7
Ealing Broadway
On Monday, December 09, 2002 10:11 AM, Jonathan Peterson
[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
Chris Ball wrote:
So, another maths exercise. I'll award a pint at the January social
meet for the first correct post with the next number in the sequence,
and another for an explanation of the
http://www.robotthoughts.com/print.php?sid=107
Enjoy.
Apologies if this one has already done the rounds.
Ivor.
On Wednesday, November 27, 2002 6:50 PM, Mark [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
I checked if similar would happen with Data::Dumper. From a quick test,
looks like this may allow you to do what you want, if appropriate bits
added to the freeze/thaw subs.
[mmorgan]$ perl -MData::Dumper -le
On Wednesday, November 27, 2002 2:44 AM, Paul Makepeace
[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
use Disclaimer qw(late_night_post);
Is it possible to Storable a qr// ?
$ cat storable_re.pl
#!/usr/bin/perl -w
use strict;
use Storable qw(freeze thaw dclone);
my $r = qr/hello/i;
for
On Wednesday, November 27, 2002 10:25 AM, Ben [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
Hi,
(Not that I use london.pm as a Source Of All Knowledge or anything)
I'm in need of a glazier to repair my living room windows that were damaged
in the recent-ish storms (yes, I really am that lazy). Can
The following thread on Perlmonks seems quite timely following our discussion
last night in the pub on use strict;
http://perlmonks.org/index.pl?node_id=214741
I've just come across this:
http://m.bacarella.com/papers/secsoft/html/
Although it's not targetted at Perl people, it seems like quite a good
reference document.
On Wednesday, November 13, 2002 5:16 PM, Michael Stevens
[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
Can anyone in the UK recommend a good solicitor for employment law,
preferably one with free time in the next 24 hours :)
I can't recommend a solicitor, but for useful information, check out
On Wednesday, November 13, 2002 9:57 AM, Simon Wistow
[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
On another mailing list (I was thinking of you! honest! they meant
nothing) where we were having the perpetual What pub shallw e go to
next discussion I mentioned The Jerusalem Tavern and said that I liked
On Wednesday, November 13, 2002 10:16 AM, Billy Abbott
[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
This seems to be true, and they even happily admit it on their website.
http://www.stpetersbrewery.co.uk/index.htm?p=developt=htm
dunno about the outsourcing bit - they claim to brew their beer in a
On Monday, November 11, 2002 8:09 PM, john imrie
[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
Does any one know of a Perl group in North of England?
I got made redundent a month back and I'd like to stay up hear where housing
is cheep :-)
Just curious, where abouts upnorth?
On Tuesday, November 12, 2002 1:59 AM, George Woolley
[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
I am a squire of the Oakland Perl Mongers.
I strive to make the world a little better
and to, someday, become a knight.
I am on a quest.
To fulfill the last part of this quest I seek contact
with a Perl
On Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:09 AM, Dave Hinton at home
[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
I've written a module which I intend to release onto CPAN. I've never done
this before, I haven't even registered on PAUSE yet. So before I do that,
I'd appreciate it if people would have a quick
On Sunday, November 10, 2002 4:41 PM, Nicholas Clark [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
wrote:
On Sat, Nov 09, 2002 at 08:52:48PM -, Dean Wilson wrote:
who know all the requirements. If you saw a job for a MOD_PEARL developer
that you were interested in wouldn't you go for it?[0]
Dean
On Friday, November 08, 2002 12:35 AM, Lusercop
[SMTP:`the.lusercop'lusercop.net] wrote:
David Adler is responsible for the ';' - 'vanderbilt' transformation
(as helpfully enacted by the Hon M. Schwern, Esq.).
I wonder, is this related to the Schwarzian transform, or perhaps the
On Friday, November 08, 2002 5:28 PM, Kevin Gurney [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
wrote:
Anyone able to shed some light on how i can compare 2 arrays.
I've tried ==, and this don't seem to work.
This may be overkill for what you want, but check out Algorithm::Diff on CPAN.
On Wednesday, November 06, 2002 10:04 AM, Billy Abbott
[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
On Tue, 5 Nov 2002, Adam Turoff wrote:
Early versions of unix supported monocased terminals. I remember a
professor telling me that if you logged in and your username was
allcaps, the tty would go
On Wednesday, November 06, 2002 11:39 AM, Andrew Wilson
[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
I don't like DCL and my admins don't have enough clue to have installed
any decent editors so I'm stuck with eve or edt (yuck!!!). Arse to DCL!
(Now I want to be ill all over the keyboard (yuck, yuck,
On Thursday, October 31, 2002 11:15 AM, Shevek [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
Questions:
I intend to write this module.
1) Is there any code I should look at already? I'm assuming that I will
inherit IO::File and IO::Dir into my own File and Dir objects.
Take a look at the File::Spec
I've discovered this essay by 'chromatic', which may be of interest:
http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/network/2002/10/21/community.html
The primary application for this is Grub Street (http://grault.net/grubstreet)
though I am sending it to the london.pm list because I am interested in whether
any mongers can pick any security holes in it.AFAIK the grub street list is a
subset of london.pm.
Earle/Kake,
Assuming the script
Sorry if details seem a bit vague. Sorry again, this is not a Perl job.
My employers (Sopra Group) are looking for a Clearcase person.
We are looking for someone skilled in:
* Installing and configuring Clearcase
* Clearcase administration
* Configuration Management
*
On Friday, October 11, 2002 4:17 PM, Simon Wistow [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
wrote:
On Fri, Oct 11, 2002 at 04:02:21PM +0100, Ivor Williams said:
Maybe introduce some kind of XP style voting system, like on Perlmonks or
Everything2.
Alternatively we could just do it and then, if anybody
On Friday, October 11, 2002 11:59 AM, Barbie [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
From: Nicholas Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED]
might be somewhat excessive for our needs (linking to 4 different vendors)
but it does have the advantage that it uses an Amazon affiliates code that
raises money for the
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And if a talk introducing the perl debugger were given at a YAPC, how many
people would think it worthy of going to?
[Ivor]
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 02 October 2002 11:02
Subject: RE: dim sum, charing cross road
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Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 10:55 AM
To: London.pm
-Original Message-
From: Greg McCarroll [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 10:55 AM
To: London.pm
Subject:dim sum, charing cross road
does anyone fancy dim sum this thursday? i'm currently working on CCR
so it would be rather handy ;-) i'm
I know many of you are Buffy fans. check out http://buffy.meetup.com/?localeId=853
FWIW.
Ivor.
Yo babe, it rocks dude!
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 04 June 2002 13:58
Subject: -tap tap tap-
is this thing on?
Check out http://www.google.com/technology/pigeonrank.html
see http://www.apacheweek.com/issues/02-03-01
May be useful info if any of you are running any PHP.
Or may be useful ammunition in the arguments in favour of Perl.
Ivor Williams
Sopra Mentor Consultant
LIFF? Core Systems Development
Extn: 2436 Mobile: 07752 234832
Leo Lapworth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
Personally I think Template Toolkit is easy to install and there
is only one other module that you need before it will installl
(andy's AppConfig). Ok, it's not small, but then if you ever
do want to do more complex stuff it's available.
It's
Good one Dave!
Though I did at first wonder what software I need to download to read a
document in linux format. (Dohh!)
Then I wondered where the Acrobat zoom control was to correct for the fuzzy
text. I'm sure that Acrobat is keeping many opticians in business... or one
eyed kings possibly
Kate L Pugh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote
I try to shop at local shops rather than supermarkets partly because I
used to live somewhere where the local shops were pretty crap and I'm
fairly sure that this was because there was a nearby out-of-town
supermarket that all the people who could
Simon Wistow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote
I *heart* borough market - I just wish I could go there more often. I
can't wait for summer again so I can go and then go and sit by the
Anchor and look over the river and have a pint and ...
But the Anchor is closed for a refurb :-(
Jonathan Peterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote
So far as I can see select operates globally across all package
namespaces. Which is annoying.
Thus:
$obj = Class-new;
$obj-some_method(); # Calls a select() within package Class
print wibble;# prints to modified file
Simon Wistow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
So you could have IRC+Jabber+Email-Speech if you wanted. I'd quite ike
to write a webswerver :)
Ever thought of getting the RNIB to sponsor it?
Ivor.
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Steve Keay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote
It is quite a difficult thing to walk into a pub and land in a room
full of strange people (people you don't know) who are all engaged in
varying levels of intense conversation.
I would like to draw on some personal experience - running a
See http://perlmonks.org/index.pl?lastnode_id=6364node_id=146058
Perpetrator script here is the cookie counter.
Ivor Williams
Sopra Mentor Consultant
LIFFE Core Systems Development
Extn: 2436 Mobile: 07752 234832
Barbie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote
From: Simon Wistow [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Giving up Marathons wasn't so hard but Opal Fruits was more of a
problem.
Up until last year I could still ask for a Marathon and the shopkeeper
wouldn't bat an eyelid and hand over the correct chocolate bar
Rob Partington [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote
But it's being changed to fit in with a more homogenised global ideal.
They're being changed because it's a whole lot easier dealing with one
brand name. I read a rationale somewhere about the SuperMop (I think)
that pointed out that having
Philip Newton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
Alt Graphics is correct. This was a reserved for future
use key, that MS pressed into service when the Euro currency
symbol was invented. (AltGr + 4)
It's been in use for years in Germany -- the only way to obtain { [ ] } \
~
| on a
Steve Mynott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
It's fascinating to compare new and old languages and see how things
have changed (usually for the better it seems). It's almost like a
process of evolution from something dinosaur like BCPL to modern
languages like Ruby, Java and Perl 6 via C.
Chris Devers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote
That or our keyboards have no AltGr key. Typical standard bottom row goes:
CTRL [WIN] ALT SPACEBAR ALT [[WIN]] [CTXT] CTRL
Betcha the second ALT right of the space bar is really an ALTGR.
Try this key and 4 inside a MS application like Word.
Philip Newton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote
Especially since you *will* have to remain familiar with QWERTY as you
will
have to use keyboards that are not your own at some point (typing on a
co-worker's machine; on a computer whose keyboard driver isn't working; at
an Internet café;
From: Jonathan Peterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote
... In the meantime, does anyonw know why
WWW::Robot goes VERY slowly? It seems to take 30-60 seconds between
deciding a link is worth following and retrieving the contents of the
page. I'm testing on a bog standard apache serving flat
Paul Mison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] writes:
Random brainfart: is the diversity of Perl communities (use.perl.org,
perl.com (to some extent), rhizo #perl, efnet #perl,
comp.lang.perl.misc, perlmonks, the multiple PM groups) a strength or a
weakness? Do people end up in the right place for
useful for many aspects of this job.
Ivor Williams
Sopra Mentor Consultant
LIFFE Core Systems Development
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Jonathan Peterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
$self-{rb}-addHook('invoke-on-contents',
\$self-invoke_on_contents);
I get
WWW::Robot: SCALAR(0x526e3c) is not a function reference; Ignoring it
And if I try
$self-{rb}-addHook('invoke-on-contents',
Redvers Davies [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote
I'm doing some rudimentary source management with cp -al foo foo-hck
and expecting that when I edit foo-hck/bar.pm that it'll do what emacs
does, write a new file called bar.pm in foo-hck, but instead it
doesn't disturb the hardlink at all
downstairs, determine which switch controls which
bulb.
You do not need any equipment other than your hands and eyes to solve this.
If you want to verify a solution without giving it away to others, please
mail me off list.
Ivor Williams
Sopra Mentor Consultant
LIFFE Core Systems Development
Extn
Greg McCarroll [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
*SPOILERS*
.
.
.
you turn them all off for a while, have a cold beer and relax, then
turn one on till you reckon its mad hot and turn another on and run
down as fast as you can and touch the two lit bulbs, hopefully the one
thats been on for
Dave Cross [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
... But not only is Perl perceived as being that web
language, it's perceived as being that out of date web language.
So. What are we going to do about it apart from slagging off Matt wright?
Picking up on some points from Dave's talk last night,
, the continuation is invoked. The call stack is now
faked to look as if all the intervening functions were called, with their
lexical variable spaces, and the code returns to this point.
Whaddya think?
Ivor Williams
Sopra Mentor Consultant
LIFFE Core Systems Development
Extn: 2436 Mobile: 07752
Thought this might amuse the Perl mongers. :-
I.
Subject: EXAM QUESTION
The following is an actual question given on a University of Washington
engineering mid term exam.The answer was so profound that the Professor
shared it with colleagues, which is why we now have the pleasure of enjoying
it
Jonathan Peterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote
what? .. with *4* spaces ?? come come mr McCarroll, we all know it is 2
spaces ... :)
Spaces? SPACES?!!! It's called a tab, Tee Ay Bee. Code is indented with
TABs, not spaces. Only bad bad people use spaces to indent.
... or bad
Chris Benson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote
Been quiet all day tho' ... I was wondering if Penderel were poorly:
obviously not.
As a matter of interest, whom do we tell if Penderel, hence london.pm.org
does go off the air?
Who has keys to buildings and/or root or sysadmin passwords?
This
Chris Devers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
...a job, actually. I just accepted a contract as a Python coder! :)
Does Python have any advantages over Perl?
I have noticed that although Python is more obscure, it seems to have more
commercial take-up in certain places. My present client
Dave Cross [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote
Codix is explained at http://london.pm.org/meetings/locations/codix.html
There is no link to this page!
Cittie of Yorke is on the same road as Penderels. A bit to the east
(towards
Chancery Lane tube) and on the other side of the road. We'll be in
Nicholas Clark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote on 15 January 2002 21:42:
I believe that ithreads were experimental in 5.6
(in that there was no perl level interface to make a thread, but the
underlying ithreads mechanism is what is used to fake fork() on Windows)
Fake fork() sounds useful
Hi there,
Anyone know what stage the threads work is at?
CPAN lists perl threads as a big project, and I gather that some
_experimental_ stuff went into 5.6.1.
Anyone know what date and/or release this is targetted towards?
Ivor Williams
Sopra Mentor Consultant
LIFFE Core Systems Development
* at 15/01 11:58 + robin szemeti said:
A 7-Page Interpretive Report created for your unique type. Simple to take
93-question test online in the privacy of your home or office. Results
typically within 48 hours. Report in Adobe .pdf format.
Anybody curious enough might like to try
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: (void) OSCON
On Sat, Jan 12, 2002 at 12:11:11PM +, robin szemeti wrote:
On Friday 11 January 2002 19:14, David H. Adler wrote:
Hey! The east
Nigel
I have been looking at the decorator model, and I would do it differently.
Instead of using inheritance, I would use AUTOLOAD to implement
quasi-inheritance. The relation is Emulates rather than ISA. Does your
design model have to be language independent, or can we use perl specific
stuff
Tom Hukins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
That's fine if you're working with a typical filesystem, but what if
you're working with database tables? I'd normally dump the tables to
a file and backup the dump. However, I guess you'd end up rsyncing
the whole database if you did this. I
.),
and return a code ref.
Any thoughts?
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LIFFE Core Systems Development
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Richard Clamp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
eval sub { $some_code }
This is missing the point, as eval runs it now, I want to run it later.
my $foo = new Object::foo;
my $grunge = sub {
print Performing grunge;
}
$foo-method({
action=$grunge});
This is the normal hardcoded way
of course eval sub... will do it.
Dohh!
Sorry guys.
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Andy williams wrote:
I just spoke to the agent, and he claims that the company are being really
insistent on the experience
I don't think they are paying too much either...
Oh and his email address appears to be wrong :)
A case of www.avatingpork.com methinks
Ivor.
Interesting... My conclusions from reading the write up are slightly
different, in that this is highlighting a culture clash, between academics
and the Perl community.
Do we have any representative in the academic world who are eloquent
speakers? I have a lot of respect for Dan Sugalski, as he
* robin szemeti ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
bah! .. surely you are having a joke? .. Arc got a very warm response it
seems .. a new dialect of Lisp for the web .. how .. err .. useful.
A new dialect of lisp .. I ask you ...
Ha! You won't be so smug when we are all running
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Sent: 21 December 2001 10:45
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Dual boot
On Fri, Dec 21, 2001 at 10:34:17AM -, Ivor Williams wrote:
This uses a 16 bit mask: (System:RWED,Owner:RWED,Group:RWED,World:RWED)
RWED bits
!
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On the subject of genetics, Channel 4 are showing the film GATTACA at 10:35
tonight.
I can recommend this film, and my VCR will be pressed into service.
Ivor.
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Sent: 18 December 2001 10:08
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:
perl 5.6.1 by the way.
Ivor.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 06 December 2001 10:31
To: Ivor Williams
Subject: Re: weird regexness
On Thu, Dec 06, 2001 at 10:23:22AM -, Ivor Williams wrote:
Michael,
$a ~= mmnipm;
The first m
One shilling = 5p
One ten bob note = 50p
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Sent: 20 November 2001 16:35
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Subject: Re: Old ten pound note
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
In particular, the Bank will pay out the face
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