Siesta party

Just to continue the exuberance we had in Paris, how about a party to celebrate Siesta? Maybe when a certain milestone is complete. Maybe when the london.pm list moves onto siesta. I don't have an occasion. I don't have a date. But I do have a venue: http://openguides.org/london/index.cgi?Acapu

Re: london.pm digest, Vol 1 #1485 - 18 msgs

- Original Message - > Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 16:46:11 +0100 > Subject: Re: OT: More sybase related - IDENTIFIER TOO LONG > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > From: David Hodgkinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > On Monday, July 7, 2003, at 03:41 P

Expletives (was Eurocracy sucks)

- Original Message - > Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 15:50:41 +0100 > From: Earle Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Eurocracy sucks. > Organization: Strike Force for Indolence and Spiritual Beauty > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Some of you may have heard this from

[Announce] Central London treasure hunt: Today

Rendezvous at: "The Tattershall Castle" - a boat pub on the Thames at Embankment. Time: 4 pm onwards Entrance: £5 / person Please mail me off-list if interested or if you want to know more. Ivor

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Call For Participation: March Techincal Meeting

From: Mark Fowler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ANNOUNCE] Call For Participation: March Techincal Meeting Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 13:03:20 + (GMT) Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > The next London Perl Mongers Tech meet will be held mid march, and I'm > looking for talks. > >

Mailing list topping and tailing

I know that the subject of corporate disclaimers comes up from time to time. I was wondering whether a general solution might be a good idea. If the mailing list code looks for a particular ... , and distributes only the text between the tags, that would be quite useful - certainly to me.  

RE: dragons

On Friday, January 31, 2003 1:56 PM, Ben [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > Is anyone thinking of going to this tonight? > > http://www.tateandegglive.com/event1_cai.html > Suggested rendezvous: The Founder's Arms, 6:00 p.m. onwards Ivor.

RE: Drink for Peace? [[was: [PUB] Spread Eagle, NW1]]

On Tuesday, January 28, 2003 1:35 PM, Andy Wardley [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > > "london perl mongers for peace" sounds really cool but i would also > > respect the view that in terms of Perl Advocacy and gaining mindshare in > > corporate land, having Perl associated with political ideolo

RE: [OT] Oldest machine still running perl

On Tuesday, January 21, 2003 3:35 PM, Alex McLintock [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > At 22:37 20/01/03, you wrote: > >On Mon, 20 Jan 2003, Shevek wrote: > > > > > I just gave away a 386/8MHz which ran it. Slackware 4.0. > > > >386/8MHz ? Thee were lucky lad ! > > > >When I were a boy I had to

Potential new module

I've been reviewing what I have learned from the LWP stuff I have been doing for Grubstreet. This involved form filling and POST method. I was struck with the feeling that boiling down the form data is something that has probably been done many times over - but a search didn't find anything obv

FOSDEM 2003

Free & Open Source Developers Europe Meeting, 8th-9th February in Brussels. http://www.fosdem.org/ Anyone interested in going? Ivor.

RE: hello to london perl mongers

On Wednesday, January 08, 2003 3:11 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > > > is anyone interested in giving me some feedback on some software projects i'm > sketching out? if yes, would you get in touch? Are you free on Thursday Evening, If so, why not come to Penderel's Oak

RE: Mounting a CDROM case-insensitively

On Thursday, December 19, 2002 11:00 AM, Jonathan Peterson [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > > > but isn't appearing to here. What's the magic?! > > The real magic would be a case insensitive filesystem for *nix. Has > anyone written a kernel mod for Linux that gives you a case preserving > case

Sysadmin story: Cannot send mail over more than 500 miles

http://www.robotthoughts.com/print.php?sid=107 Enjoy. Apologies if this one has already done the rounds. Ivor.

RE: Crazy maths proof

On Monday, December 09, 2002 10:11 AM, Jonathan Peterson [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > > > Chris Ball wrote: > > So, another maths exercise. I'll award a pint at the January social > > meet for the first correct post with the next number in the sequence, > > and another for an explanation o

Party invite on behalf of Gordon Tytler

Hi all, Gordon (who was around at last Thursday's social meet) has asked me to post an invite to the list, for his party on Saturday. He's not subscribed himself (shame!) === Saturday 14th December 7pm 14 Mayfield Gardens, Hanwell, W7 Ealing Broadway Tub

RE: re-animating regexes

On Wednesday, November 27, 2002 6:50 PM, Mark [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > I checked if similar would happen with Data::Dumper. From a quick test, > looks like this may allow you to do what you want, if appropriate bits > added to the freeze/thaw subs. > > [mmorgan]$ perl -MData::Dumper -le

RE: glaziers

On Wednesday, November 27, 2002 10:25 AM, Ben [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > Hi, > > (Not that I use london.pm as a Source Of All Knowledge or anything) > > I'm in need of a glazier to repair my living room windows that were damaged > in the recent-ish storms (yes, I really am that lazy). Can

RE: re-animating regexes

On Wednesday, November 27, 2002 2:44 AM, Paul Makepeace [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > use Disclaimer qw(late_night_post); > > Is it possible to Storable a qr// ? > > $ cat storable_re.pl > #!/usr/bin/perl -w > use strict; > use Storable qw(freeze thaw dclone); > > my $r = qr/hello/i;

Perl coding standards

The following thread on Perlmonks seems quite timely following our discussion last night in the pub on use strict; http://perlmonks.org/index.pl?node_id=214741

The Peon's Guide To Secure System Development

I've just come across this: http://m.bacarella.com/papers/secsoft/html/ Although it's not targetted at Perl people, it seems like quite a good reference document.

RE: law

On Wednesday, November 13, 2002 5:16 PM, Michael Stevens [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > Can anyone in the UK recommend a good solicitor for employment law, > preferably one with free time in the next 24 hours :) > I can't recommend a solicitor, but for useful information, check out http://o

RE: st peter's ale

On Wednesday, November 13, 2002 10:16 AM, Billy Abbott [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > This seems to be true, and they even happily admit it on their website. > > http://www.stpetersbrewery.co.uk/index.htm?p=develop&t=htm > > dunno about the outsourcing bit - they claim to brew their beer in a

RE: st peter's ale

On Wednesday, November 13, 2002 9:57 AM, Simon Wistow [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > On another mailing list (I was thinking of you! honest! they meant > nothing) where we were having the perpetual "What pub shallw e go to > next" discussion I mentioned The Jerusalem Tavern and said that I li

RE: My First CPAN Module... but comments first, please?

On Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:09 AM, Dave Hinton at home [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > > > I've written a module which I intend to release onto CPAN. I've never done > this before, I haven't even registered on PAUSE yet. So before I do that, > I'd appreciate it if people would have a qu

RE: Seeking Perl Advocate in Africa

On Tuesday, November 12, 2002 1:59 AM, George Woolley [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > I am a squire of the Oakland Perl Mongers. > I strive to make the world a little better > and to, someday, become a knight. > > I am on a quest. > To fulfill the last part of this quest I seek contact > with

RE: Looking for a group in the North of England

On Monday, November 11, 2002 8:09 PM, john imrie [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > Does any one know of a Perl group in North of England? > > I got made redundent a month back and I'd like to stay up hear where housing > is cheep :-) Just curious, where abouts upnorth?

RE: mine data fast (was Re: [JOB] I Need One)

On Sunday, November 10, 2002 4:41 PM, Nicholas Clark [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > On Sat, Nov 09, 2002 at 08:52:48PM -, Dean Wilson wrote: > > > who know all the requirements. If you saw a job for a MOD_PEARL developer > > that you were interested in wouldn't you go for it?[0] > > > >

RE: (no subject)

On Friday, November 08, 2002 5:28 PM, Kevin Gurney [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > > Anyone able to shed some light on how i can compare 2 arrays. > > I've tried ==, and this don't seem to work. > This may be overkill for what you want, but check out Algorithm::Diff on CPAN. http://search.cp

RE: Perl is someone else's bitch

On Friday, November 08, 2002 12:35 AM, Lusercop [SMTP:`the.lusercop'@lusercop.net] wrote: > David Adler is responsible for the ';' -> 'vanderbilt' transformation > (as helpfully enacted by the Hon M. Schwern, Esq.). I wonder, is this related to the Schwarzian transform, or perhaps the Gutta-Pe

RE: Usernames?

On Wednesday, November 06, 2002 11:39 AM, Andrew Wilson [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > > I don't like DCL and my admins don't have enough clue to have installed > any decent editors so I'm stuck with eve or edt (yuck!!!). Arse to DCL! > (Now I want to be ill all over the keyboard (yuck, yuck

RE: Usernames?

On Wednesday, November 06, 2002 10:04 AM, Billy Abbott [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > On Tue, 5 Nov 2002, Adam Turoff wrote: > > > Early versions of unix supported monocased terminals. I remember a > > professor telling me that if you logged in and your username was > > allcaps, the tty woul

RE: Proposal: Filesystem abstraction layer

On Thursday, October 31, 2002 11:15 AM, Shevek [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > Questions: > > I intend to write this module. > > 1) Is there any code I should look at already? I'm assuming that I will > inherit IO::File and IO::Dir into my own File and Dir objects. Take a look at the File::Sp

Online communities

I've discovered this essay by 'chromatic', which may be of interest: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/network/2002/10/21/community.html

RFC: Usemod wiki enhancement for searches

The primary application for this is Grub Street (http://grault.net/grubstreet) though I am sending it to the london.pm list because I am interested in whether any mongers can pick any security holes in it.AFAIK the grub street list is a subset of london.pm. Earle/Kake, Assuming the script i

RE: Books on london.pm.org (was Re: applying patterns)

On Friday, October 11, 2002 4:17 PM, Simon Wistow [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > On Fri, Oct 11, 2002 at 04:02:21PM +0100, Ivor Williams said: > > Maybe introduce some kind of XP style voting system, like on Perlmonks or > > Everything2. > > Alternatively we could ju

[JOB] Rational Clearcase expert

Sorry if details seem a bit vague. Sorry again, this is not a Perl job. My employers (Sopra Group) are looking for a Clearcase person. We are looking for someone skilled in: * Installing and configuring Clearcase * Clearcase administration * Configuration Management * De

RE: Books on london.pm.org (was Re: applying patterns)

On Friday, October 11, 2002 3:49 PM, Simon Wilcox [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > On Fri, 11 Oct 2002, Simon Batistoni wrote: > > > I think personal bios still have a problem, in that there has to be > > some criteria for "bio-worthiness", which doesn't wind up looking > > elitist. I have a s

Perl monger funding (was RE: applying patterns)

On Friday, October 11, 2002 11:59 AM, Barbie [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > From: "Nicholas Clark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > might be somewhat excessive for our needs (linking to 4 different vendors) > > but it does have the advantage that it uses an Amazon affiliates code that > > raises mone

RE: similarity detection

On Tuesday, October 08, 2002 11:50 AM, Tim Sweetman [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > nemesis wrote: > > > > Hello again, > > > > I have a database (mySQL) full of variable length text fields (average > > about > > 1500 characters, 250 words). Curently there are about 250 fields, but I > > hop

RE: Straw poll

-Original Message- From: Nicholas Clark [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2002 10:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Straw poll And if a talk introducing the perl debugger were given at a YAPC, how many people would think it worthy of going to? [Ivor]

RE: Unix test

-Original Message- From: Chris Devers [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 1:41 PM To: London Perl Mongers Subject:Re: Unix test On Mon, 7 Oct 2002, Ivor Williams wrote: > I have been asked at work, to come up with a Unix technical test As in

Unix test

I have been asked at work, to come up with a Unix technical test for use in interviewing prospective candidates, and I was wondering if there already was such a test in existence. To search the list, I tried a google advanced search on pm.org - without any avail. I did ask whether there was an

Re: dim sum, charing cross road

- Original Message - From: "Ivor Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: 02 October 2002 11:02 Subject: RE: dim sum, charing cross road > > > -Original Message- > From: Greg McCarroll [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wedn

RE: dim sum, charing cross road

-Original Message- From: Greg McCarroll [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 10:55 AM To: London.pm Subject:dim sum, charing cross road does anyone fancy dim sum this thursday? i'm currently working on CCR so it would be rather handy ;-) i'm guessi

Buffy fans meet on meetup.com

I know many of you are Buffy fans. check out http://buffy.meetup.com/?localeId=853 FWIW. Ivor.

Re: -tap tap tap-

Yo babe, it rocks dude! - Original Message - From: "alex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: 04 June 2002 13:58 Subject: -tap tap tap- > > is this thing on? > > > > > >

[humour] How Google rates pages

Check out http://www.google.com/technology/pigeonrank.html

Security hole in Apache + PHP

see http://www.apacheweek.com/issues/02-03-01 May be useful info if any of you are running any PHP. Or may be useful ammunition in the arguments in favour of Perl. Ivor Williams Sopra Mentor Consultant LIFF? Core Systems Development Extn: 2436 Mobile: 07752 234832

RE: Lightweight template module?

Leo Lapworth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > Personally I think Template Toolkit is easy to install and there > is only one other module that you need before it will installl > (andy's AppConfig). Ok, it's not small, but then if you ever > do want to do more complex stuff it's available. It'

RE: nms article online

Good one Dave! Though I did at first wonder what software I need to download to read a document in linux format. (Dohh!) Then I wondered where the Acrobat zoom control was to correct for the fuzzy text. I'm sure that Acrobat is keeping many opticians in business... or one eyed kings possibly ;-)

RE: Bolloxia

I unearthed this little Bolloxia gem on Enron... on Perlmonks of all places. http://perlmonks.org/index.pl?node_id=110244 Seems quite appropriate with hindsight. :-) Ivor. --- The information contained in this e-mail is confi

RE: Supermarkets [Was: Tea]

Kate L Pugh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote > I try to shop at local shops rather than supermarkets partly because I > used to live somewhere where the local shops were pretty crap and I'm > fairly sure that this was because there was a nearby out-of-town > supermarket that all the people who cou

RE: [ANNOUNCE] Tanker 0.01

Simon Wistow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > So you could have IRC+Jabber+Email->Speech if you wanted. I'd quite ike > to write a webswerver :) Ever thought of getting the RNIB to sponsor it? Ivor. --- The information con

RE: select() operates globally?

Jonathan Peterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote > So far as I can see select operates globally across all package > namespaces. Which is annoying. > > Thus: > > $obj = Class->new; > $obj->some_method(); # Calls a select() within package Class > print "wibble;# prints to modi

RE: Tea (was Re: Bolloxia)

Simon Wistow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote > I *heart* borough market - I just wish I could go there more often. I > can't wait for summer again so I can go and then go and sit by the > Anchor and look over the river and have a pint and ... But the Anchor is closed for a refurb :-( > 'Profe

RE: Developing Perl based products for windows.

Tommie M. Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > I am a Perl developer who mostly works with Unix. I have a perl program > that I would like to sell to windows users. > I was wondering if anyone has any experience creating easy to install CD's > for perl based product. I assume that I will

RE: Social meet kick up the arse [Was: Return to the Yorke]

Steve Keay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote > It is quite a difficult thing to walk into a pub and land in a room > full of strange people (people you don't know) who are all engaged in > varying levels of intense conversation. I would like to draw on some personal experience - running a success

RE: Bolloxia

Rob Partington [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote > But it's being changed to fit in with a more homogenised global ideal. > They're being changed because it's a whole lot easier dealing with one > brand name. I read a rationale somewhere about the SuperMop (I think) > that pointed out that having

RE: Bolloxia

Barbie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote > From: "Simon Wistow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Giving up Marathons wasn't so hard but Opal Fruits was more of a problem. > > Up until last year I could still ask for a "Marathon" and the shopkeeper > wouldn't bat an eyelid and hand over the correct choco

Matts scripts discussion hits perlmonks

See http://perlmonks.org/index.pl?lastnode_id=6364&node_id=146058 Perpetrator script here is the cookie counter. Ivor Williams Sopra Mentor Consultant LIFFE Core Systems Development Extn: 2436 Mobile: 07752 234832 ---

Book Reviews: Cross-Platform Perl

Hi Folks, Anybody seen or got a copy of "Cross-Platform Perl" by Eric Foster-Johnson? http://www.pconline.com/~erc/perlbook.htm Is it any good? Tom Christiansen gave it 4 camels. The chapter headings seem to imply this is a "teach yourself perl from square zero" style book. This book may be

RE: User Input at speed

Philip Newton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > Chris Devers wrote: > > I'm sorry but I'm quite sure I've never seen ALTGR on a US > > keyboard. Ever. > [snip] > > but it isn't functionality that most US users are aware of or > > would miss. > > And I think that's the reason -- most US users d

RE: User Input at speed

Chris Devers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote > That or our keyboards have no AltGr key. Typical standard bottom row goes: > > CTRL [WIN] ALT SPACEBAR ALT [[WIN]] [CTXT] CTRL Betcha the second "ALT" right of the space bar is really an "ALTGR". Try this key and 4 inside a MS application like Wo

RE: Rindolf

Steve Mynott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > It's fascinating to compare new and old languages and see how things > have changed (usually for the better it seems). It's almost like a > process of evolution from something dinosaur like BCPL to modern > languages like Ruby, Java and Perl 6 via

RE: User Input at speed

David Cantrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > This 'ere keyboard (Sun type 6) has grey Tab, Caps Lock, Shift, Control, > Alt, Meta, Compose, Alt-graph, Return, Backspace, Esc, F1-12, plus the > blocks of keys on either side of the QWERTY block. That's pretty normal > AFAIK. Ahh COMPOSE! I m

RE: User Input at speed

Philip Newton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > > "Alt Graphics" is correct. This was a "reserved for future > > use" key, that MS pressed into service when the Euro currency > > symbol was invented. (AltGr + 4) > It's been in use for years in Germany -- the only way to obtain { [ ] } \ ~ > |

RE: User Input at speed

Philip Newton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote > What I'd like to know is what "Alt Gr" stands for. I used to think it was > "Alt German", but I think also other national keyboards have it. "Alt > Graphic", perhaps? "Alt Graphics" is correct. This was a "reserved for future use" key, that MS pres

RE: User Input at speed

Philip Newton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote > Especially since you *will* have to remain familiar with QWERTY as you will > have to use keyboards that are not your own at some point (typing on a > co-worker's machine; on a computer whose keyboard driver isn't working; at > an Internet café; wh

Low budget applications

useful for many aspects of this job. Ivor Williams Sopra Mentor Consultant LIFFE Core Systems Development Extn: 2436 Mobile: 07752 234832 --- The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and solely for the intended

Diversity [was Dan Sugalski calling all mongers groups]

Paul Mison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] writes: > Random brainfart: is the diversity of Perl communities (use.perl.org, > perl.com (to some extent), rhizo #perl, efnet #perl, > comp.lang.perl.misc, perlmonks, the multiple PM groups) a strength or a > weakness? Do people end up in the right place fo

RE: Callbacks in class definition woe

From: Jonathan Peterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote > ... In the meantime, does anyonw know why > WWW::Robot goes VERY slowly? It seems to take 30-60 seconds between > deciding a link is worth following and retrieving the contents of the > page. I'm testing on a bog standard apache serving fl

RE: Callbacks in class definition woe

Jonathan Peterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > $self->{rb}->addHook('invoke-on-contents', \$self->invoke_on_contents); > I get > > WWW::Robot: SCALAR(0x526e3c) is not a function reference; Ignoring it > > And if I try > > $self->{rb}->addHook('invoke-on-contents', > \&{$self

RE: One-Eyed Kings

Nic Gibson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > On Tue, Jan 29, 2002 at 06:49:58PM +, Dave Cross wrote: > > This person even goes by the name "The Eye". > > > > > > This would be the site you mentioned in your talk, yes? > Whilst, I'm in slack

Saving Time

d that way eliminate the need to wash the hands, shortening the time spent in the toilet by 76.39 percent." "Okay, that makes sense, but . . . if the string helps you get it out, how do you put it back in?" "Well," he whispered, lowering his voice even further, "I do

RE: [OT] 3 light bulbs problem

Greg McCarroll [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: *SPOILERS* . . . > you turn them all off for a while, have a cold beer and relax, then > turn one on till you reckon its mad hot and turn another on and run > down as fast as you can and touch the two lit bulbs, hopefully the one > thats been on f

[OT] 3 light bulbs problem

downstairs, determine which switch controls which bulb. You do not need any equipment other than your hands and eyes to solve this. If you want to verify a solution without giving it away to others, please mail me off list. Ivor Williams Sopra Mentor Consultant LIFFE Core Systems Development Extn

RE: vim+hardlinks

Redvers Davies [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote > > I'm doing some rudimentary source management with cp -al foo foo-hck > > and expecting that when I edit foo-hck/bar.pm that it'll do what emacs > > does, write a new file called bar.pm in foo-hck, but instead it > > doesn't disturb the hardlink

Save the Camel campaign [was bad nasty evil thread]

Dave Cross [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > ... But not only is Perl perceived as being "that web > language", it's perceived as being "that out of date web language". So. What are we going to do about it apart from slagging off Matt wright? Picking up on some points from Dave's talk last ni

RE: bad nasty evil thread

Chris Devers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote > I think the worst case scenario is that Perl could end up being like Cobol > is today -- old, ugly, and unloved, but a lot of working systems depend on > it years after they were written, so the need to maintain it (and to have > developers that un

Implementing continuations in perl

ome later point, the continuation is invoked. The call stack is now faked to look as if all the intervening functions were called, with their lexical variable spaces, and the code returns to this point. Whaddya think? Ivor Williams Sopra Mentor Consultant LIFFE Core Systems Development Extn: 2436

English language [was call LEVEL oddness]

Jonathan Peterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > I hate to poke my head above the parapet, but just where did English get > this 'difficult to learn' reputation? English is not tonal, not > gendered, and not declined. It has one, small, 26 character alphabet > with no accents. Many people (

RE: Pub

This is the youngs pub on the south bank by the swaying bridge - no? -Original Message- From: Dave Cross [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 21 January 2002 13:39 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Pub Adam Turoff is in town and a few of us are meeting him for a drink or three this evening. W

RE: I want it now ...

Merijn Broeren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote > > Maybe you can ask the powers that be whether the ^=~ operator has a > > name? > > I've already named it last year, and you just have to follow suit: > > the dragon operator > > See, it's a point headed dragon that breathes fire to the right. >

RE: Erm, Hello?

Jonathan Peterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote > > what? .. with *4* spaces ?? come come mr McCarroll, we all know it is 2 > > spaces ... :) > Spaces? SPACES?!!! It's called a tab, Tee Ay Bee. Code is indented with > TABs, not spaces. Only bad bad people use spaces to indent. ... or bad

[OT] Exam Question

Thought this might amuse the Perl mongers. :-> I. Subject: EXAM QUESTION The following is an actual question given on a University of Washington engineering mid term exam.The answer was so "profound" that the Professor shared it with colleagues, which is why we now have the pleasure of enjoying

RE: Of meetings technical and social

Dave Cross [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote > Codix is explained at There is no link to this page! > Cittie of Yorke is on the same road as Penderels. A bit to the east (towards > Chancery Lane tube) and on the other side of the road. We'll b

RE: Erm, Hello?

Chris Devers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > ...a job, actually. I just accepted a contract as a Python coder! :) Does Python have any advantages over Perl? I have noticed that although Python is more obscure, it seems to have more commercial take-up in certain places. My present client a

RE: Erm, Hello?

Chris Benson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote > Been quiet all day tho' ... I was wondering if Penderel were poorly: > obviously not. As a matter of interest, whom do we tell if Penderel, hence london.pm.org does go off the air? Who has keys to buildings and/or root or sysadmin passwords? This

RE: Threads availability and support

Nicholas Clark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote on 15 January 2002 21:42: > I believe that ithreads were "experimental" in 5.6 > (in that there was no perl level interface to make a thread, but the > underlying ithreads mechanism is what is used to fake fork() on Windows) Fake fork() sounds use

RE: Year 2K2 problem

* at 15/01 11:58 + robin szemeti said: > > A 7-Page Interpretive Report created for your unique type. Simple to take > 93-question test online in the privacy of your home or office. Results > typically within 48 hours. Report in Adobe .pdf format. Anybody curious enough might like to try

Threads availability and support

Hi there, Anyone know what stage the threads work is at? CPAN lists perl threads as a "big project", and I gather that some _experimental_ stuff went into 5.6.1. Anyone know what date and/or release this is targetted towards? Ivor Williams Sopra Mentor Consultant LIFFE Co

RE: (void) OSCON

-Original Message- From: Nicholas Clark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 14 January 2002 16:46 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (void) OSCON > On Sat, Jan 12, 2002 at 12:11:11PM +, robin szemeti wrote: > > On Friday 11 January 2002 19:14, David H. Adler wrote: > > > Hey! The ea

RE: Just thinking (like Greg)

-Original Message- From: Nicholas Clark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 10 January 2002 16:59 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Just thinking (like Greg) [snip] > So what's stopping any and every enterprising steganographer from getting > one of these files, one that you don't own the li

RE: Co-lo, was Re: London.pm List Weekly Summary 2001-12-31

Tom Hukins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > That's fine if you're working with a typical filesystem, but what if > you're working with database tables? I'd normally dump the tables to > a file and backup the dump. However, I guess you'd end up rsyncing > the whole database if you did this.

Patterns in Perl : decorator model

Nigel I have been looking at the "decorator" model, and I would do it differently. Instead of using inheritance, I would use AUTOLOAD to implement quasi-inheritance. The relation is "Emulates" rather than "ISA". Does your design model have to be language independent, or can we use perl specific

RE: Compiling strings into code refs

of course eval "sub..." will do it. Dohh! Sorry guys. --- The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and solely for the intended addressee(s). Unauthorised reproduction, disclosure, modification, and/or distrib

RE: Compiling strings into code refs

Richard Clamp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > eval "sub { $some_code }" This is missing the point, as eval runs it now, I want to run it later. my $foo = new Object::foo; my $grunge = sub { print "Performing grunge"; } $foo->method({ action=>$grunge}); This is the normal hardco

Compiling strings into code refs

sures, etc.), and return a code ref. Any thoughts? Ivor Williams Sopra Mentor Consultant LIFFE Core Systems Development Tel:+44 (0)20 7379 2436 Mobile: +44(0)7752 234832 --- The information contained in this e-mail is co

RE: attention risk players

Folks! As a relative lon.pm newcomer, how do I get to this mythical irc.rhizomatic.net? I have hear wonderful things about it, the FAQ page on london.pm.org gives a hint but no instructions. Anybody help? Ivor. -Original Message- From: Greg McCarroll [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent:

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