Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Re: X0rfbserver Citrix Server semi-sol'n

2002-06-11 Thread John_Cuzzola
> The ability to shadow sessions on different LTS networks over a WAN link. For > example, say I have 5 LTS networks located in different cities... I would like > to be able to shadow sessions in our local office *and/or* in remote > offices... > > Is this gonna require additional coding, or is

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Re: X0rfbserver Citrix Server semi-sol'n

2002-06-11 Thread Charles Marcus
> From: "Jason Bechtel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 01:15:52 +0200 > > 1: "Pushing" a session -- > I believe the original messages regarding the existence of > x0rfbserver were closely followed by someone mentioning a > presentation in western Canada (Vanco

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] RE: X0rfbserver Citrix Server semi-sol'n

2002-06-11 Thread Charles Marcus
> Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 09:05:14 -0400 > From: Venkat Manakkal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> As distasteful as it sounds, my boss has asked me about the >> possibility of what I'll call 'Passive Shadowing', ie, >> shadowing someones workstation without the ability to take >> it

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] RE: X0rfbserver Citrix Server semi-sol'n

2002-06-10 Thread Venkat Manakkal
Charles Marcus ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Hi all, > > I am very excited by the discussions for implementing shadowing capability > using X0rfbserver in LTSP, but had one question and one comment... > > Question: > Will it be very simple to 'reverse' the concept, so that someone (the Admin, > o

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] RE: X0rfbserver Citrix Server semi-sol'n

2002-06-10 Thread Charles Marcus
Hi all, I am very excited by the discussions for implementing shadowing capability using X0rfbserver in LTSP, but had one question and one comment... Question: Will it be very simple to 'reverse' the concept, so that someone (the Admin, or someone in the 'Trainers' Group) could *push* their desk

RE: [Ltsp-discuss] RE: X0rfbserver Citrix Server semi-sol'n

2002-06-08 Thread Scott Balneaves
On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, Egan, Matt B. (Artco) wrote: > > An alternative to NIS might be LDAP, but we haven't gotten > > that to work for local apps yet. > > What are the hangups with LDAP so far? I'm sort of the point man for LDAP support in LTSP. LDAP support for loading the workstation's config

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] RE: X0rfbserver Citrix Server semi-sol'n

2002-06-08 Thread R P Herrold
On Fri, 7 Jun 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In the past, some people have suggested just copying the > servers /etc/passwd file to /opt/ltsp/i386/etc, but I can > tell you very clearly that will NEVER be part of a > standard LTSP package. Beyond the obvious 'least privilege argument' in not re

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] RE: X0rfbserver Citrix Server semi-sol'n

2002-06-08 Thread John_Cuzzola
> John, > > Just a couple of questions. You say that you run your clients locally, > does this include the window manager? ** Yes, but I run a very lightweight manager (ICE) > How much ram do you have in the clients and do you use local or network > swap?? Also what CPU do you have in them?

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] RE: X0rfbserver Citrix Server semi-sol'n

2002-06-08 Thread Derek Zoolander
On Fri, 2002-06-07 at 04:06, John_Cuzzola wrote: > > > *** Oh yes, sorry about that...I guess somewhat of the confusion is LTSP > Version 2 to 3. It is significantly different. I haven't had the > opportunity tpo try version 3 but since we're using version 2 and working > fine there are no plans

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] RE: X0rfbserver Citrix Server semi-sol'n

2002-06-08 Thread John_Cuzzola
> > What i'm trying to figure out, is: Does this thing > work with any Xserver, or does it have to be an xserver > that uses vesa ? *** I believe it will work with any Xserver and it does seem to be fairly lightweight. Although being able to launch it on demand would be a plus :)

RE: [Ltsp-discuss] RE: X0rfbserver Citrix Server semi-sol'n

2002-06-08 Thread Tarjei Huse
Hi, SSH with PKI keys is one posiblity, see: http://www.arches.uga.edu/~pkeck/ssh/ You can set up one ssh key for each app you want to run w/o a password and append the key to to the user who's going to be allowed to use the app. PS: This requires a ssh server running on the client. I'm now usi

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] RE: X0rfbserver Citrix Server semi-sol'n

2002-06-07 Thread jam
Ok, so the curiosity got the better of me, and I decided to take a look at the x0rfbserver program. I grabbed the source tarball and looked at the code, to see if I could understand how it works, and what it would take to eliminate the pop-up dialog and to setup the properties via commandline arg

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] RE: X0rfbserver Citrix Server semi-sol'n

2002-06-07 Thread John_Cuzzola
> Ooh! What about this... What about starting a program > with xinit as was recently suggested, but instead of > starting x0rfbserver it starts a monitoring app? *** I've written a similiar program (God it's a hacked up mess, but I get by) that listens on the client machine (tcp port) for a

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] RE: X0rfbserver Citrix Server semi-sol'n

2002-06-07 Thread CARRIE COY
How might the NIS requirement affect those using alternate authentication schemes? We are happily authenticating users against our PDC using SAMBA's winbind. For us, winbind makes transitioning users from PC to thin client quite painless and administration is a breeze. Can't wait to see ver

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] RE: X0rfbserver Citrix Server semi-sol'n

2002-06-07 Thread Jason Bechtel
Jim, 1) I think that rsh should be avoided on general principle. 2) I don't think local apps and NIS or even LDAP should be necessary in order to get shadowing capabilities. Perhaps these ideals are unrealistic and I appreciate the old maxim about reinventing the wheel, but couldn't we just find

RE: [Ltsp-discuss] RE: X0rfbserver Citrix Server semi-sol'n

2002-06-07 Thread jam
Matt, it was over a year ago that Andrew Williams and I tried using LDAP for authenticating users for Local apps, and I don't remember all the details. We just didn't get it going, and had to move on. I'm confident that it can be done. It's just a matter of pouring the right amount of time in

RE: [Ltsp-discuss] RE: X0rfbserver Citrix Server semi-sol'n

2002-06-07 Thread Egan, Matt B. (Artco)
> An alternative to NIS might be LDAP, but we haven't gotten > that to work for local apps yet. What are the hangups with LDAP so far? > In the past, some people have suggested just copying the > servers /etc/passwd file to /opt/ltsp/i386/etc, but I can > tell you very clearly that will NEVER b

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] RE: X0rfbserver Citrix Server semi-sol'n

2002-06-07 Thread jam
Jason and Matt, The problem with running an rsh daemon on the workstations is that it needs to know WHO is sending the request to run something, and whether they are allowed to or not. By turning on local apps, you enable NIS. That is how the rsh daemon will validate that the "WHO" is a correct

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] RE: X0rfbserver Citrix Server semi-sol'n

2002-06-07 Thread Jason Bechtel
Matt, I don't think local apps should have to be enabled in order to get this to work. They should be totally separate options with no mutual dependency or exclusivity between them. And I think it could be easily set up to work like this... The only thing required is a way to start and stop th

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] RE: X0rfbserver Citrix Server semi-sol'n

2002-06-06 Thread Charles Marcus
> Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 14:27:02 -0400 (EDT) > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I'll just make a mention that LTSP v3.1 is going to make this > significantly easier to setup, because of a new feature > we are calling "Screen Scripts" (for lack of a better name). > > Each virtual tty will be able to ru

RE: [Ltsp-discuss] RE: X0rfbserver Citrix Server semi-sol'n

2002-06-06 Thread Egan, Matt B. (Artco)
Oy! To much info. I read through that twice and its still blew me away. Anyway. I think your on track for what I would love to see. These points No end user visibility or intervention required. (even the password supplied by the admin invoking the session) Not always running (I have lots of 4

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] RE: X0rfbserver Citrix Server semi-sol'n

2002-06-06 Thread jam
John, I'll just make a mention that LTSP v3.1 is going to make this significantly easier to setup, because of a new feature we are calling "Screen Scripts" (for lack of a better name). Each virtual tty will be able to run a session script that will dictate exactly what happens on that tty. That

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] RE: X0rfbserver Citrix Server semi-sol'n

2002-06-06 Thread John_Cuzzola
*** Oh yes, sorry about that...I guess somewhat of the confusion is LTSP Version 2 to 3. It is significantly different. I haven't had the opportunity tpo try version 3 but since we're using version 2 and working fine there are no plans to switch. Yes you'll need to be able to run the xinit comma

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] RE: X0rfbserver Citrix Server semi-sol'n

2002-06-06 Thread CARRIE COY
Sorry to be obtuse, but I'm confused by what you're doing here (and I'm dying to understand).  How complicated is it to set up to run a "local window manager"?  Why would someone want to run a local window manager (to be able to easily launch local apps?).   Which WM are you running? Did you h