On Tuesday 18 November 2003 08:19 pm, bob wrote:
> I agree completely, that's been my point exactly, whether fully
> understood or not in my recent posts. I've tracked and used this
> project since 1999 when I presented it to the UN in Geneva for
> consideration for their use in missions around th
On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, bob wrote:
> I'm sure I'll be told to "chill out" but I think these points do need to
> be addressed, publicly, in the open, in the interests of the projects
> users. I trusted this forum for guidence only to be burned by redhat,
> what distro would be best?
Bob,
by al
Everyone,
PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE enough with the RedHat thread. I think you have
all established that there is disagreement. Your discussion will be more
appropriate and more useful on a RedHat list.
If you feel that you will just burst if you don't respond to what
Anselm or Bob has said, repl
bob wrote:
It has been a redhat centric project, and even a year and a half ago
when I asked in this forum, I was told that the best bet was to go
with redhat as it was most compatible with this project, that debian
was not that well supported. I am very tired of hearing from my
vendors suppo
Jim,
I have the utmost respect for you and your work on this project. I
believe it's one of the most important projects in Linux today. But how
can anyone have any trust when it remains redhat centric? Please see my
posts in reply elsewhere.
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Look guys, it's gone on l
Brandon Mercer wrote:
> Ken Yap wrote:
heaps of alternatives to RH, and the GPLed source remains GPL, so it's
>> not a monopoly situation.
>>
Well, when all the major vendors of servers, Dell, HP, Compaq, and IBM,
say that they only support redhat 7.3 and back, yes, it does start
looking lik
Look guys, it's gone on long enough. Redhat's decisions are NOT
part of our focus on this list. As Ken says, there are plenty of
alternatives to Redhat.
So, move on already.
Jim McQuillan
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On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Brandon Mercer wrote:
> Ken Yap wrote:
>
> >Mmm, this is getti
On Mon, 2003-11-17 at 20:48, bob wrote:
> hazzmat wrote:
>
> > Not that anyone should care what I think, but the longer I'm in this
> > game, the more I respect the ability and accomplishments of the Debian
> > Project. Most proprietary Linux distros have done something in last 4
> > or 5 years
Ken Yap wrote:
Mmm, this is getting rather OT for LTSP. Could you guys take this to
some other forum please? My take on the situation is that there are
Why do you tell us to take this to another list and then give your take
on the situation?
heaps of alternatives to RH, and the GPLed source r
Mmm, this is getting rather OT for LTSP. Could you guys take this to
some other forum please? My take on the situation is that there are
heaps of alternatives to RH, and the GPLed source remains GPL, so it's
not a monopoly situation.
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hazzmat wrote:
Not that anyone should care what I think, but the longer I'm in this
game, the more I respect the ability and accomplishments of the Debian
Project. Most proprietary Linux distros have done something in last 4
or 5 years to unsettle their previously loyal users. Some have turned
Any RHCE out there want to give your view on how all this affects those
of us with RedHat certification?
Would you recommend that others (who're interested in certification)
look to RedHat, or wait and see what develops with Novell/SUSE ?
Not that anyone should care what I think, but the longer
WOW. I could not put it better than the subject above.
I have been a RedHat linux supporter for about 5 years now. Until this
morning
With the announcement by RedHat to discontinue their retail product past
the 9.0 version, I have been patiently waiting to see what shakes out of
the mess.
On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 12:52:56 -0800
Brook Humphrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Friday 14 November 2003 11:13 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Fedora is (Redhat quote) 'bleeding edge, not for production use'.
> > My week of testing gave me 3 bugs compared with 0 over 5 years.
> Not sure what ver
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
An annual fee of $379 per machine to run Linux ???
Try Gentoo Linux (http://www.gentoo.org). It comes at the cost of
downloading two ISOs and roasting them onto a CD-R. After that you
install and upgrade packages whenever you feel like it over the
Internet.
Mind you, the
Brook Humphrey wrote:
On Friday 14 November 2003 06:07 pm, Brandon Mercer wrote:
mandrake is a great starter distro... they are not well suited
for production environments.
Brandon
There are allot of us using mandrkae for servers that could very easily prove
you wrong.
Take a look at ne
On Friday 14 November 2003 11:13 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Fedora is (Redhat quote) 'bleeding edge, not for production use'.
> My week of testing gave me 3 bugs compared with 0 over 5 years.
Not sure what version of redhat you are using but I have used it as a
development platform a few times
An annual fee of $379 per machine to run Linux ???
Try Gentoo Linux (http://www.gentoo.org). It comes at the cost of
downloading two ISOs and roasting them onto a CD-R. After that you
install and upgrade packages whenever you feel like it over the
Internet.
Mind you, the install is done at the co
On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 10:35:53AM -0800, Kevin Humphries wrote:
> What impact will this major change have on LTSP? Will LTSP run on other
> vender distributions of Linux just as well? Which vender would you recommend
> I switch to as a replacement to Redhat?
>
Use Debian GNU/Linux.
with rega
Hi
> > While Fedora is great for the hobbist, it will not cut it for many
> > comercial even small comercial operations do to the lack of
> > "professional" support. And given some of teh bigs that have shown up in
> > Fedora that are not present in RH9 this could possibly be a very big issue.
Debian. Pretty darn stable.
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, Dennis Veatch wrote:
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> > > On Friday 14 November 2003 09:07 pm, Brandon Mercer wr
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On Friday 14 November 2003 08:12 pm, Julius Szelagiewicz wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, Dennis Veatch wrote:
> > On Friday 14 November 2003 09:07 pm, Brandon Mercer wrote:
> > > We stopped using redhat on our servers because it's one of the worst
> > >
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, Dennis Veatch wrote:
> On Friday 14 November 2003 09:07 pm, Brandon Mercer wrote:
>
> > We stopped using redhat on our servers because it's one of the worst
> > linux distros out there for stability. We're all intitled to our
> > opinion and all grow attached to a favorite dis
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Aren't we all just a little tired of talking about Redhat and what
> they are doing ?
>
> lets move on and try to be productive, eh ?
Nah! Jim, who wants to be productive when we can happily engage in the act
of throwing around a lot of natural fertili
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, Brandon Mercer wrote:
> We stopped using redhat on our servers because it's one of the worst
> linux distros out there for stability. We're all intitled to our
> opinion and all grow attached to a favorite distro and while I agree
> redhat or mandrake is a great starter distro
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On Friday 14 November 2003 05:41 pm, Cornelius Weiß wrote:
> > Then what is well suited for production environments?
>
> to say it short: debian is perfect if you want to have a
> most free and
> most stable server!
>
> cornelius
I guess I don't pay e
Aren't we all just a little tired of talking about Redhat and what
they are doing ?
lets move on and try to be productive, eh ?
Jim McQuillan
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On Friday 14 November 2003 06:07 pm, Brandon Mercer wrote:
> mandrake is a great starter distro... they are not well suited
> for production environments.
> Brandon
There are allot of us using mandrkae for servers that could very easily prove
you wrong.
Take a look at netcraft and look for adva
> Then what is well suited for production environments?
to say it short: debian is perfect if you want to have a
most free and
most stable server!
cornelius
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On Friday 14 November 2003 09:07 pm, Brandon Mercer wrote:
> We stopped using redhat on our servers because it's one of the worst
> linux distros out there for stability. We're all intitled to our
> opinion and all grow attached to a favorite distro
Julius Szelagiewicz wrote:
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, Evan Hisey wrote:
While Fedora is great for the hobbist, it will not cut it for many
comercial even small comercial operations do to the lack of
"professional" support. And given some of teh bigs that have shown up in
Fedora that are not presen
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, Evan Hisey wrote:
> While Fedora is great for the hobbist, it will not cut it for many
> comercial even small comercial operations do to the lack of
> "professional" support. And given some of teh bigs that have shown up in
> Fedora that are not present in RH9 this could po
Julius-
While Fedora is great for the hobbist, it will not cut it for many
comercial even small comercial operations do to the lack of
"professional" support. And given some of teh bigs that have shown up in
Fedora that are not present in RH9 this could possibly be a very big issue.
Evan
Jul
Kevin,
I know that reading is hard and comprehension is even harder, but
make the effort and just try to understand what RH is saying. What on
Earth makes you think that you have to pay for RH software? Haven't you
noticed anything about Fedora?
Oh, and to answer your questions: wha
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:35:53 -0800
Kevin Humphries <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What impact will this major change have on LTSP? Will LTSP run on
> other vender distributions of Linux just as well? Which vender would
> you recommend I switch to as a replacement to Redhat?
I've been a RedHat fol
Kevin-
LTSP will run on _any_ linux distrobution that has teh required
servers and services installed. These are tftp,X(if you need
it),telnet(if used),and dhcp. Some distros take more tweaking than
others such as Slackware( I have scripts for 9.0 they should also work
on 8) do to the BSD sty
Kevin Humphries wrote:
What impact will this major change have on LTSP? Will LTSP run on other
vender distributions of Linux just as well? Which vender would you recommend
I switch to as a replacement to Redhat?
We are small and presently only have two servers running LTSP with thin
clients,
> What impact will this major change have on LTSP? Will LTSP run on other
> vender distributions of Linux just as well? Which vender would you recommend
> I switch to as a replacement to Redhat?
>
> We are small and presently only have two servers running LTSP with thin
> clients, but we can'
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