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From: Michael Thames [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu; Steve Amazeen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 4:49 PM
Subject: Re: Blind players and memory
Steve,
Whilst it's true these instruments bare a resemblance to the lute as we
know it
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From: Stuart LeBlanc [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 8:43 PM
Subject: RE: Blind players and memory
Must
I give up the bragging rights I have claimed at the Go club??
I wouldn't dream of it! At least you can play Go
Found it:
http://www.larips.com/
David
of the Bach's WTC is a diagram of these proportions. The article and his
website give clear directions for setting up an instrument with the
What's the URL?
David
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The funny thing about one of their meetings (Bach and Weiss along with
Kropffgans) was the BWV 1025 which is a lute sonata by Weiss to which Bach
obviously improvised (and later worked out) a violin part.
Improvising fugues and passacalias was common at their time (organists now
start to
I was told it would originate in the persian region. Don't know of the
evidence for that but my statement it would come from either the arabic
countries or china was corrected by an expert a while ago telling me it
would be from the region of persia.
Thomas
Steve Amazeen [EMAIL
I don't know why playing from a score that has been memorized would somehow
free you from a literal interpretaion of the law or why reading from a
score in front of you would bind you to some kind of fundamentalist
position. If you are playing from a score that has been memorized, you are
At 3:38 PM -0400 4/10/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I would be interested to hear about any other interesting lute outreach that
others have been doing.
I don't know if this qualifies, but yesterday I played under the
cherry trees in Ueno park (just across the lake from the hotel you
stayed in)
Dear Jason,
yes, I have read the article and have since been waiting for the second part.
No, it
doesn't (and cannot) work with lutes in whatever tuning, as they are very much
limited
to regular tunings like equal temperament and the various meantones. However,
as
the naturals f, c, g, d,
Hi All,
long time since I posted on the lutenet...
Over the weekend just gone, Gordon Gregory hosted the Lute Society's
exhibition (which is held every other year). I stayed for the whole
weekend, and it seemed to me a great success. There were more than 20
lutes (many of which were for sale)
hello all,
the six recercars in galileis 1563 print (ness 68 to ness 73) are unica
and seems to me a little bit different to other of francesco da milano
recercars (especially 69 to 72) with less imitatory structures than
others of his fantasies. what is your opinion about this music?
francesco da
Dear Anna,
Thank you for posting this. It sounds as though it was a good weekend, and
it is great to hear from you again!
ed
At 11:44 AM 4/11/2005 +0100, Anna Langley wrote:
Hi All,
long time since I posted on the lutenet...
Over the weekend just gone, Gordon Gregory hosted the Lute
Michael,
I found that many guitarists memorize simply
because they are _such_ poor readers. I know this was
the case with myself in the beginning and I've seen it
happen to most of my students as well. However, since
I've delved into the lute world and learned to play in
multiple tunings
Michael et al:
Roman's website has an extensive section on the history of the Ukrainian
torban and examples in museums today. He mentioned that many more recently
discovered examples will soon be posted to the site as well.
Kenneth
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What does one do if (s)he's scheduled to play
but the hygrometer says 25%? Are there any
options besides
1. cancel the concert and leave
the lute in an airtight case
2. continue the concert and risk
losing (or loosing) an internal
brace
I've
Thomas,
A jazz friend recently told me there is a society of classical musicians
devoted to improvising in counterpoint.
I like your comparison of the Passacaglia and modern blues . I never
thought of it that way.
Michael Thames
www.ThamesClassicalGuitars.com
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switch to an oud ... the original dust bowl,
bowl-backed instrument ...
- bill
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What does one do if ( scheduled to play
but the hygrometer says 25%? Are there any
options besides
1. cancel the concert and leave
the lute in
Chris,
I agree with you completely, I've now started to site read everything,
and feel quite liberated.
I was told by a lutenist whom I respect very much that no one plays
without tablature, and to do so, would show a great disrespect to the
composer. He also stressed to me, NOT to
What does one do if (s)he's scheduled to play
but the hygrometer says 25%? Are there any
options besides
1. cancel the concert and leave
the lute in an airtight case
2. continue the concert and risk
losing (or loosing) an internal
brace
How can one tell whether a string is carbon-fiber or nylon?
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Dear Herbert,
How can one tell whether a string is carbon-fiber or nylon?
One possibility to do it:
1. Measure the length, diameter and weight of the string (or some
cut piece of it)
2. Use my sub-calculator in
http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wikla/mus/Calcs/wwwscalc.html#P1
3. If the
That's it. Guitarists have a problem with sight reading, maybe because they
are trained not to, and I can say that as an ex guitarist who wanted to be
able reading music as any other instrument player..
Donatella
http://web.tiscali.it/awebd
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Michael,
Oh well. There's nothing wrong with performing
with sheet music and there's nothing wrong with
memorizing music. They're not mutually exclusive and
neither is good nor bad or has any effect whether the
sun comes up in the morning (for both guitarists and
lutenists). Neither
I wrote:
How can one tell whether a string is carbon-fiber or nylon?
One possibility to do it:
1. Measure the length, diameter and weight of the string (or some
cut piece of it)
2. Use my sub-calculator in
http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wikla/mus/Calcs/wwwscalc.html#P1
3. If
There is one aspect of Blind Players that no one seems to have addressed:
The blind seem to have a better focus in certain areas, especially where
hearing is concerned, than those of us who are sighted. This also brings up
another point not touched on that I can remember, how did the blind learn
That's it. Guitarists have a problem with sight reading, maybe because
they
are trained not to, and I can say that as an ex guitarist who wanted to be
able reading music as any other instrument player..
Donatella
Thesedays, I think the level of site reading for most guiratists, is much
better
now that the denigration of guitarists is at an end -
i think - i'd like to celebrate by telling you about a
recipe for left-over rice. i realize this is wildly
off-topic but if there's one thing i've learned while
living in italy, it's this:
lunch is important.
this is not so much an
Another thoughtWe have a chamber music festival here in Taos, organized
by some friends I know. I have gone faithfully for years now. However,
this year my wife and I made the decision not to go anymore, for the simple
reason, I refuse to go thru another concert starring at the back of
I'm doing a little lecture recital for the
New Jersey Classical Guitar and Mandolin Society
Thursday, April 21 in Hoboken - Kapsberger, Sanz and
Dowland,,,should be fun!
Sal Salvaggio -
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Another characteristic of Carbon strings is that to my eye, they appear
shiny transparent, whereas nylon looks more dull somewhat opaque.
Also, they feel different under the fingers. When plucking carbon, I
notice that the string has almost no stretch to it, as compared to
nylon. So, it
Large choruses usually have the music in hand, for security (lord knows I
depend
on that crutch inspite of being well-off book long before preformance, even on
large works like the Verdi Requiem or the Monteverdi Vespers). Conductors of
large (and small) choral groups are constantly demanding
Vance Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
how did the blind learn a piece in the first place if they did not
write their own material exclusively?
Some would have had sighted 'secretarys' to set down their notes and perhaps
read/play them back -perhaps an established organist who happened to be
My 2 cents worth on this is that it's not about whether there's music on
the paper in front of you. And it's note about how well learning and
thought out the performance is - we all hope for a wonderful
performance. What I think audiences really want it musical communication
made up of the
Per all the discussion about playing from memory, I want to mention and
highly recommend to anyone in New York City to try to get to the following
concert
of Matthew Wadsworth, who is both blind and plays programs and vast amounts of
repertoire from memory. There is a possibility, too, that
Bravo Bill! And nobody should forget the vino, perhaps a Vernaccia or a Moscato
d'Asti for a weekend brunch.
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From: bill kilpatrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 2:23 PM
To: lute list
Subject: guitarists
now that the denigration of guitarists
Twenty years ago when I was in school, improvising double fugues, cadenza for
concerti and whatnot in public performance was not altogether extraordinary.
BTW, sheet music in a performance would be for the non-improvised sections. I'm
tempted to put some soundclips up and see who can identify
Try Recioto rather.
RT
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Bravo Bill! And nobody should forget the vino, perhaps a Vernaccia or a
Moscato
d'Asti for a weekend brunch.
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From: bill kilpatrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, April
Or Seattle...
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From: Anna Langleymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edumailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 8:46 AM
Subject: Re: Concertizing in dry environments.
What does one do if (s)he's scheduled to play
but
BTW, sheet music in a performance would be for the non-improvised
sections. I'm
tempted to put some soundclips up and see who can identify which are
improvised,
memorized or read from score
Who cares! everyone does this, the topic incidentally was live
performance.
Michael Thames
I'm not familiar with that wine but from what I just read it sounds intriguing.
I would wonder if it would be quixotic to pair such a wine with a simple weekday
lunch leftover rice frittata.
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From: Roman Turovsky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005
Hi Michael,
I may have missed something, to which instruments are you referring? My
post was to clarify the instrument referred to in the Four Arts of a
scholar in China.
The theory that the lute, oud etc. originated in Asia is certainly
fascinating.
Steve Amazeen
I think DAS traced
Yeah well I'm talking about live performance soundclips, audience noise
included.
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From: Michael Thames [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 10:10 PM
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu; Stuart LeBlanc
Subject: Re: Antwort: Re: Blind players and memory
BTW,
Yeah well I'm talking about live performance soundclips, audience noise
included
Yeah, well how do we know your telling us the truth, you could be
saying your improvising, when your actually site reading, or site reading,
when in reality, your playing from memory. But if you do it, keep it
Thank you! I'll try it today (as we always have left over rice in this
half-Japanese household), but perhaps I'll leave out the wine as I'll still
have to play tonight. Might otherwise turn into too much outreach and too
little lute. ;-)
David
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