[LUTE] Re: LOTR

2007-04-28 Thread Phalese
In einer eMail vom 28.04.2007 23:42:12 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > As it appears, Fodrid, Watcher of Roads, is playing the lute with > gloves? > > Mathias > >From what I have heard from a promoter from the software company, it is possible to play a number of in

[LUTE] Re: No Humour please, were (at the) BRITish (awards)

2007-04-09 Thread Phalese
In einer eMail vom 09.04.2007 01:18:15 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > mark ... what are you on about? Hi, I didn't write the article, just wanted to show that the world outside may not see the "Sting" thing so positively as some here may view it. That's alll fol

[LUTE] Re: No Humour please, were (at the) BRITish (awards)

2007-04-09 Thread Phalese
In einer eMail vom 09.04.2007 01:09:30 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > I looked in vain for Mark's "Citternists of Penzance" band nomination for > their album "Arf, arf". Hopefully next time. > Could't help it. > RT > Hi Roman, As you will probably noticed, I did

[LUTE] No Humour please, were (at the) BRITish (awards)

2007-04-08 Thread Phalese
Dear Lutenetters maybe of interest Classical Brits Old Man Face-Off: Sting Vs Paul McCartney http://www.hecklerspray.com/classical-brits-old-man-face-off-sting-vs-paul-mccartney-2/20067748.php/ All the best Mark -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://w

[LUTE] Re: Stung Again

2007-04-02 Thread Phalese
HI, here is a video of "modern dance" and elizabethan music, Holborne and nor Dowland. http://youtube.com/watch?v=4EuqQ3CI-H4 As often in these sort of things, I tend to find that the "modern" elements seem quite dated and something more "HIP" would have a bit more "attitude". But if you want

[LUTE] Re: something totally different:)

2007-03-13 Thread phalese
Steve Hacket's recordings are 6 years earlier than "It's Late", but I am sure Mr Hacket was probably not the first to record this technique. best wishes Mark -Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Verschickt: Di., 13. Mrz. 2007, 15:25 Thema: [L

[LUTE] Re: something totally different:)

2007-03-12 Thread phalese
Eddie Van Halen is often thought of as the inventer of "tapping" on electric guitar, but Steve Hacket had used it on the early Genesis albums which are quite a few years before Van Halen. best wishes Mark -Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc

[LUTE] Re: Clatterford lute sighting

2007-03-04 Thread Phalese
In einer eMail vom 04.03.2007 17:04:00 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > Unless WE referred to her AND Mark Wheeler. > RT > Dear Roman, Well actually there are at least THREE of us. Have a look at... http://idolator.com/tunes/studio-60/the-demise-of-studio-60-p

[LUTE] Re: More on Sting

2007-02-27 Thread Phalese
In einer eMail vom 28.02.2007 02:31:24 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > Mark Wheeler's response is very much to the point. In the discussion at > the table, they had Sting, Edin, Rooley, and one more bearded person, who > appeared to be quite scholarly. Who is that

[LUTE] Re: More on Sting again REVISED

2007-02-27 Thread Phalese
Hi, I have just read my mail and realised that it didn't make much sense, what I meant was Mr. Rooley, says that he does not believe that Dowland was such a staunch Catholic and was not "paranoid" as Sting tries to describe him. Also that Dowland may have been a spy,something that Sting a

[LUTE] Re: More on Sting

2007-02-27 Thread Phalese
In einer eMail vom 27.02.2007 13:55:37 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > What did he have to say on the subject? > > david Mr Rooley, say that he does not believe that Dowland was not such a staunch Catholic and was not "paranoid" as Sting tries to describe him. Also

[LUTE] Re: meanrone fretting

2007-02-26 Thread phalese
Not the answer you were looking for, but surviving instruments with fitted frets such as citterns use meantone fretting. Someone on the list recommended R.W. Duffins book about the history of ET... "How Equal Temperament Ruined Harmony. And Why You Should Care " A very interesting book that s

[LUTE] Re: I joined the club of YouTube... ;-)

2007-02-20 Thread Phalese
In einer eMail vom 20.02.2007 11:32:23 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > So I guess the problem must be somehow in the conversion programs > YouTube uses? Probably best to compress the videos somewhat before you send them to YouTube. Maybe your files are just too big

[LUTE] Re: I joined the club of YouTube... ;-)

2007-02-20 Thread Phalese
In einer eMail vom 20.02.2007 10:35:05 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > The synchronisation on YouTube is improved if you let the video clip > play a few seconds, then 'rewind' to the beginning and play again... > > Andrew > That doesn't seem to work here.. http://

[LUTE] Re: I joined the club of YouTube... ;-)

2007-02-20 Thread Phalese
In einer eMail vom 19.02.2007 14:48:57 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > Hi lute gang, > > I joined the YouTube senders... ;-) > > I put my Sarmaticae videos of 2005, the very big AVI files, to the > YouTube, too. The quality and especially synchronization are not of

[LUTE] Re: Dowland portrait

2007-02-04 Thread Phalese
In einer eMail vom 04.02.2007 20:42:49 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >What do you think the string instrument is that the player on the > >right is > >playing with his back to us? > > Judging from the small number of pegs, it can only

[LUTE] Re: Dowland portrait

2007-02-04 Thread Phalese
What do you think the string instrument is that the player on the right is playing with his back to us? All the best Mark In einer eMail vom 04.02.2007 14:42:43 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > Dear Vance, > > The web address is > > http://www.musikhistorie.dk/side

[LUTE] Re: Great or horrible, a poll!

2006-12-04 Thread Phalese
In einer eMail vom 05.12.2006 00:19:10 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > controversial-video I think that is a bit of an exageration. I think calling it modern is also a bit forced. It reminds me of one of those saturday night television variety shows I had to suffer

[LUTE] Re: sarmatica 41 on youtube

2006-12-02 Thread Phalese
Hi, Jagshamesh, Have a look at this wonderful video by the same "great Ukrainian R&R band". It has a sort of The Darkness goes Bollywood Vibe. (But be warned it is not for the faint hearted, one of the band members is wearing black nail varnish!) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhSnBn99NTE

[LUTE] Re: thumb on diapason?

2006-12-02 Thread Phalese
In einer eMail vom 02.12.2006 14:23:50 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > Andreas and Mark, > > > I was just thinking on this. Is there any music > that is clearly written specifically for this type of > 12 (not 11 or 13) course lute? > > Chris Yes there is a lot o

[LUTE] Re: thumb on diapason?

2006-12-02 Thread Phalese
In einer eMail vom 02.12.2006 03:26:38 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > But in an earler message you mentionned the following, "I find at > least on the cittern > that the damped string gives a nice percussive sound to the chord." > You appeared to be talking of dampi

[LUTE] Re: thumb on diapason?

2006-12-01 Thread Phalese
Hi, To put it clear, I am not talking about sympathetic resonances. That is a problem on electric guitars, at high volume. But you also see acoustic guitarists dampening when using a plectrum. I also do not have a 6course lute so I can't test any of this. But what is MAYBE the case, is that plec

[LUTE] Re: thumb on diapason?

2006-12-01 Thread Phalese
In einer eMail vom 01.12.2006 19:59:41 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > Mark > I am just thinking that the idea of the thumb-damping could perhaps > be more relevant to metal > wound strings. I think many lute players, even today, damp their > metal wound strings

[LUTE] Re: thumb on diapason?

2006-11-30 Thread Phalese
In einer eMail vom 30.11.2006 18:49:00 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > I have put some more examples here, including two > supposed Francesco portraits, and a musical example. > And some other pictures. > > http://mysite.verizon.net/arthurjness/thumb.html > I am not

[LUTE] Re: Transitional Tunings

2006-11-28 Thread Phalese
In einer eMail vom 27.11.2006 11:56:38 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > Dear Mark, > > Just to add to the list of music you already have from Richard Corran: > > There's lots of music for transitional tunings in Panmure 5, and I think > Dick Hoban have done an editio

[LUTE] Re: CD's at LSA

2006-11-28 Thread Phalese
In einer eMail vom 28.11.2006 02:50:00 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > Then Dowland Songs by Stin er, I mean Lord Chamberlain's > Consort. Hi, Thanks for the info... The Lord Chamberlain's Consort have a homepage at http://www.angelfire.com/music7/mylordcham

[LUTE] Re: Report in pictures - Alteglofsheim 2006

2006-11-26 Thread Phalese
Dear Stefan, congratulations, on what seems to be a thriving course. All the best Mark In einer eMail vom 26.11.2006 18:42:56 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > > Dear Lutenists, > > the report in pictures from Alteglofsheim 2006 with Stewart McCoy and Miguel > Serd

[LUTE] Transitional Tunings

2006-11-26 Thread Phalese
Hi, I think this is maybe something that hasn't been spoken about so much here. Last weekend I got a lovely new 10 course lute from Martin Shepherd. It has a 67.5 string length and it tuned in F or G at 390, however you want to see it (I prefer the later). Last night I decieded to try some piec

[LUTE] A question of truth?

2006-11-26 Thread Phalese
Hi, Roman has carved his latest piece of dogma onto the wikipedia site. "The most important living archlute players are Edin Karamazov and Luca Pianca (the founder of Il Giardino Armonico), who predominantly play archlutes, and Paolo Cherici, Massimo Lonardi, Luciano Contini, Paul O'Dette, Jak

[LUTE] Re: Unmarried strung archlutes

2006-11-25 Thread Phalese
In einer eMail vom 26.11.2006 00:06:37 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > An archlute doesn't suddenly become something else just > because it has fourteen strings instead of nineteen, and it's just > inconceivable that no 17th or 18th-century player ever tried it, > w

[LUTE] Re: Goths in the Garden, was : Re: sting

2006-11-25 Thread Phalese
In einer eMail vom 25.11.2006 22:44:36 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt Phalese: > In einer eMail vom 25.11.2006 22:35:32 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt > [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > > >> There is aplenty >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angelique_%28Lute%29 >

[LUTE] A call for reason.....

2006-11-25 Thread Phalese
Dear Roman According to this on 13:19, 22 February 2006 I made a comment on Elizabeth Taylors Marriage! On another I seem to have made a contribution about Railway electrification system! I have wide interests but I know nothing of both of these. Also why do I have 4 IP addresses? Roman this

[LUTE] Re: Goths in the Garden, was : Re: sting

2006-11-25 Thread Phalese
In einer eMail vom 25.11.2006 22:00:28 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Luca_Pianca&diff=89839118&; > oldid=82287924 > Hi, not sure who wrote this, but Luca does play a single strung archlute, or not. There is also no evidenc

[LUTE] Re: ting

2006-11-25 Thread phalese
Dear Roman, Before you make unfounded accusations, I would check if they are not just your paranoia. Maybe their are more people with simular opinions out there. I didn't realise you were the guardian of the wikepedia site. How do you find the time when you are so prolific? I read about you

[LUTE] Re: Sting!

2006-11-23 Thread Phalese
In einer eMail vom 23.11.2006 15:55:49 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > I have no idea what you've been listening to. My copy has BRIGHT LILY, > rather than WHITE. > RT > That was my mistake, I meant bright. But the THE THE is clearly an editing mistake. Didn't you

[LUTE] Re: Sting!

2006-11-23 Thread Phalese
In einer eMail vom 23.11.2006 14:18:25 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > An excellent suggestion, Eugene. > Perchance Mark would post an example of his own singing, or even his take on > > some serious lute music, rather than the vaudeville that he offered > previousl

[LUTE] Re: Sting! Nachtrag

2006-11-23 Thread Phalese
In einer eMail vom 23.11.2006 11:59:35 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > I just received this, and it seems to work: > > http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID"928060&; > blogID=196138740&MyToken=031a1ab8-093b-46a0-9f22-61b9d9ef4505 Hi, sorry

[LUTE] Re: Sting! Nachtrag

2006-11-23 Thread Phalese
HI, I have just seen that you need to ba a myspace member to read the blog, so here is the article for those interested Pantagruel - Gothic Renaissance Zillo December 2006/January 2007 Gothic and Renaissance do not seem to have much in common; in fact the 16th ce ntury saw the medieval peri

[LUTE] Re: Sting!

2006-11-23 Thread Phalese
In einer eMail vom 23.11.2006 01:38:23 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > If he ever > comes to Montreal to perform this stuff, I really hope the lutenists > around me are going to tell him what we think. > I wouldn't get so worked up about it. Everything of course you

[LUTE] Re: Sting!

2006-11-22 Thread Phalese
In einer eMail vom 23.11.2006 00:43:50 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > This is getting more and more ridiculoushe should be ashamed of > presenting this to the world > > regards > > Bruno > Dear Bruno. Don't get frustrated, try starting your day with a wor

[LUTE] Re: Blackmore, was : A "normal" voyce ?

2006-10-29 Thread Phalese
In einer eMail vom 29.10.2006 17:31:41 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > And so does Karamazov. And I prefer EK's brynza to ALK's wensleydale. > RT Someone told me once that Paul O'Dette original name was Paul Audet. Not sure or very interested if this is true, but if h

[LUTE] Re: Blackmore, was : A "normal" voyce ?

2006-10-29 Thread Phalese
In einer eMail vom 29.10.2006 09:13:54 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > Many post Bachists regard an interest in lute music and early music in > general, this way, i.e. asserting the superiority of what is inferior. > What does a post Bachist believe and what does a

[LUTE] Re: Blackmore, was : A "normal" voyce ?

2006-10-28 Thread phalese
However it would be a mistake to confuse or conflate these two notions. The second is not only infinitely worse than the first, but often acts in reverse fashion, alleging the inferiority of the superior (cf. Mark Wheeler). RT I don't quite understand that if I believe one music style is not s

[LUTE] Re: Blackmore, was : A "normal" voyce ?

2006-10-27 Thread phalese
> As we have no recorded performances of renaissance music and the romantic > tradition is also not > representative of renaissance performance, rock music performance that > places more emphasis on > the "beat" is maybe closer to the way a > renaissance musician may have played. But in the end

[LUTE] Re: Blackmore, was : A "normal" voyce ?

2006-10-27 Thread phalese
> > The interesting thing about ALK performance was that he was playing to > > accompany dancers and > the sort of performances that can be found on the > > Sting CD with it's romantic rubato would be > impossible for a dancer to use. Are you suggesting that IN DARKNESS is a dance tune???

[LUTE] Re: Blackmore, was : A "normal" voyce ?

2006-10-27 Thread phalese
I think we need to make a distinction between music styles, it is quite pointless comparing Bach and Led Zeppelin. I personally like both and don't know with which method I should make a judgement. In the end any judgements about music are always coloured by the listeners social background and

[LUTE] Re: Blackmore, was : A "normal" voyce ?

2006-10-26 Thread Phalese
In einer eMail vom 26.10.2006 19:20:52 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > Great! Then I'm just as good a player as Paul > O'Dette! Who cares if he plays cleaner, has a finer > touch, etc? I'm after different goals (largely I am) > so we can't possibly say that either o

[LUTE] In praise of Roman's Folly

2006-10-26 Thread Phalese
Hi, I found this whole sting thing interesting, I found the "Flow my tears" folk version worth sharing with the lute net. even the Blackmore's Night thing (as it seems they are not so well known in America). But then our friend Roman got all personal again and I have just tried to have a look

[LUTE] Re: Blackmore, was : A "normal" voyce ?

2006-10-26 Thread Phalese
In einer eMail vom 26.10.2006 18:14:46 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > Not all musics were created equal. Sorry, way of judging music by it's ethnic background and complexity is absurd. If we follow your reasoning, then why do we play Dowland at all, he didn't come

[LUTE] Re: Blackmore, was : A "normal" voyce ?

2006-10-26 Thread Phalese
In einer eMail vom 26.10.2006 17:43:40 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > I am finding increasing difficulty detecting the relevancy of this > discussion to this list. I like some recent music that doesn't involve > lutes, and > some of it is not the same as what othe

[LUTE] Re: Blackmore, was : A "normal" voyce ?

2006-10-26 Thread Phalese
In einer eMail vom 26.10.2006 17:20:18 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > I never knew Rockettes also played instruments. > RT > It seems you are in a sort of 19th century "reality tunnel". Mark -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dart

[LUTE] Re: Blackmore, was : A "normal" voyce ?

2006-10-26 Thread Phalese
In einer eMail vom 26.10.2006 16:31:41 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > =CD am certainly not familiar with musical meaning of menacing nail laquer > and > "Cleopatra" style eye liner. > Keep guessing. > RT > Are you talking about the "look" from Siouxie and Banshee'

[LUTE] Re: Blackmore, was : A "normal" voyce ?

2006-10-26 Thread Phalese
In einer eMail vom 26.10.2006 15:57:50 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > I have. Might have even heard something, but after hearing Siegfried's > Funeral. Which makes former a bit ludicrous, doesn't it? > RT > I am not sure how one piece of music makes another ludicro

[LUTE] Re: Blackmore, was : A "normal" voyce ?

2006-10-26 Thread Phalese
In einer eMail vom 26.10.2006 13:40:18 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > Neither have I, until last Monday. > RT I find that very hard to believe. Never heard of Deep Purple? Then you have been missing out on a lot of great music. No wonder you find Edin's playing so i

[LUTE] Re: Blackmore, was : A "normal" voyce ?

2006-10-25 Thread Phalese
In einer eMail vom 25.10.2006 16:59:39 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > The lute Police would be turning Deep Purple with rage!!! > > DR > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > www.rastallmusic.com I think it could improve the whole sting Dowland thing quite a lot. Blackmore never play

[LUTE] Re: Blackmore, was : A "normal" voyce ?

2006-10-24 Thread Phalese
In einer eMail vom 25.10.2006 01:57:32 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > A colleague on a this week's film job, a propmaster, who formerly was the > leadguitarist with a VERY IMPORTANT R&R band (unnamed for now), told me > today that RBlackmore plays nothing but lutes

[LUTE] Re: A "normal" voyce ?

2006-10-24 Thread Phalese
In einer eMail vom 24.10.2006 19:36:05 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > Absolutely true, but I doubt that Sting even knew that there were > early-music singers who fall into yet another category other than operatic. I think somebody like Sting who had classical trai

[LUTE] Re: A "normal" voyce ?

2006-10-24 Thread Phalese
In einer eMail vom 24.10.2006 18:18:26 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > think Sting simply meant to say that his voice is not classically-trained. > I don't think he was being insincere; I think he was simply assuming that > people who sing Dowland have classically-

[LUTE] Re: A "normal" voyce ?

2006-10-24 Thread Phalese
In einer eMail vom 24.10.2006 17:20:02 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > I agree with you that those "extraordinary vocalizations" don't just > spring forth without some kind of tradition behind them. I think > that for the most part people who sing folk music, rock

[LUTE] Re: A "normal" voyce ?

2006-10-24 Thread Phalese
In einer eMail vom 24.10.2006 15:51:41 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > According to Ray Nurse, at the Baroque Vocal Workshop I attended, > there were two kinds of singing in the Renaissance: church and > chamber, often done by the same person. > Which one sounded

[LUTE] Re: A "normal" voyce ?

2006-10-24 Thread Phalese
In einer eMail vom 24.10.2006 15:25:30 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > "operatic tenors" to me sounds like he's making a > distinction between those who are trained to project > their voices with the aid of their diaphragm - a > brisk, penetrating, back-of-the-hall-rea

[LUTE] Re: A "normal" voyce ?

2006-10-24 Thread Phalese
In einer eMail vom 24.10.2006 14:05:31 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > Mark > I would personally doubt whether some Irish folk singers are > completely untrained. Perhaps it is not a scholarly training, but > some (not of course the present singer) that I have he

[LUTE] Re: A "normal" voyce ?

2006-10-24 Thread Phalese
In einer eMail vom 24.10.2006 09:19:27 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > Got it. Interesting. I like English folk. I would have changed the > accompaniment with that style of singing to something more "folky". > The interesting thing would be to see how people who do

[LUTE] Re: A "normal" voyce ?

2006-10-23 Thread Phalese
Hi, the URL was wrong it should have been http://www.myspace.com/suzannesear best wishes Mark -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] A "normal" voyce ?

2006-10-23 Thread Phalese
Hi, without opening all that Sting thing again, I found something that may be of interest in the what is a normal voice discussion. Today Pantagruel got an add request on myspace from a folk singer who is recording a CD of John Dowland songs. Have a listen to her flow my tears at... http://w

[LUTE] Re: Poulton's book on JD

2006-10-23 Thread Phalese
Hi, try abebooks.com I got a copy there for about 50 euros. They have some very cool books, one of the best finds I made there (it wasn't cheap, but worth it) was a copy of William dauney's "Ancient Scotish melodies" from 1901 with an inscription to the author's niece. best wishes Mark -- T

[LUTE] Re: Dowland as a singer

2006-10-18 Thread Phalese
In einer eMail vom 18.10.2006 22:21:28 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > What troubles me, is the view that there is only one way to perform > Dowland. Singers are individuals, and will inject a little of > themselves into their performance. I have listened to Mark Wheel

[LUTE] Re: Sting and his CD

2006-10-18 Thread Phalese
In einer eMail vom 18.10.2006 17:55:03 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > professional of Robert Hales' > stature What do we know about a singer such as Robert Hales, who would probably have been the sort of singer that Dowland's songs were designed for. I remember

[LUTE] Re: STOP Sting and his CD, please

2006-10-18 Thread phalese
Hi, not complaining, my last mail was very positive, great to see that people outside our "ghetto" (how one big English newspaper called the early music scene) see the huge problems with Stings CD, even the single strung archlute. Bravo. Mark -Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung- Vo

[LUTE] Don't underestimate the punter

2006-10-17 Thread Phalese
Dear lutenetters, there is a lot of talk about the "normal public" not be able to discern a realistic lute sound from the synthetic sound on SFTL and nobody being interested in the single strung archlute. Here are a few quotes from the BBC messageboard, which is generally quite damning of the

[LUTE] Re: Sting and his CD

2006-10-17 Thread Phalese
In einer eMail vom 18.10.2006 00:19:21 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > That they aren't is just a failure of execution. > I think that is probably the best way to describe this CD in general from both musicians as "a failure of execution". Mark -- To get on or of

[LUTE] Re: Sting and his CD

2006-10-17 Thread Phalese
In einer eMail vom 17.10.2006 22:50:57 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > There must be something wrong with the sample. I can't understand a > word :-) I have just listened to the CD and it is very difficult to understand the words on that song at all. Just had a li

[LUTE] Re: Cheers for Sting

2006-10-17 Thread Phalese
In einer eMail vom 17.10.2006 22:51:35 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > We tend to accept on an academically that Dowland and company wrote > popular music. Not true at all, the broadside ballad repertoire was the pop music of the day. But that would not have interes

[LUTE] Re: There is thy Sting

2006-10-14 Thread Phalese
In einer eMail vom 15.10.2006 01:47:12 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > I don't expect you to like it, but don't push your cheesy wares as the > alternative. > RT Hi Roman, funny that you find my wares are so cheesy compared with Stings with it's electronic lute sou

[LUTE] Re: There is thy Sting

2006-10-14 Thread Phalese
Hi Roman, I understand you are frustrated. But listen playing with amplification is just a way to hide the weakness of Stings voice. Admit it. It was amusing seeing you get so worked up. I think you are even going to get more worked up in the near future. I'd would watch your blood pressure...

[LUTE] Re: There is thy Sting

2006-10-14 Thread Phalese
In einer eMail vom 15.10.2006 01:18:20 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > A comedy troupe in drag won't need amplification, to be sure. > RT > Not sure what that has to do with us, maybe something to with your last brothel visit. best wishes Mark -- To get on or off

[LUTE] Re: There is thy Sting

2006-10-14 Thread Phalese
In einer eMail vom 15.10.2006 01:05:26 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > They perform in LARGE SPACES, for A LOT OF PEOPLE, 600+ here in NYC. I > guess > you nefver had such experience. > I am sure they wouldn't amplify for a wood paneled room, and an audience of > 20

[LUTE] Re: There is thy Sting

2006-10-14 Thread Phalese
In einer eMail vom 15.10.2006 00:56:02 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > Were they published posthumously??? > RT > Do you think Dowland composed them originally to be published. He sat down and wrote the whole book and then published it. You can't be serious.

[LUTE] Re: There is thy Sting

2006-10-14 Thread Phalese
In einer eMail vom 15.10.2006 00:44:54 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > WHY WOULD THEY SING AND PLAY IN A GLASS-AND-CONCRETE SPACE WITHOUT > AMPLIFICATION? > That would be rather stupid, wouldn't it? > The point is they only perform with amplification, which means al

[LUTE] Re: There is thy Sting

2006-10-14 Thread Phalese
In einer eMail vom 15.10.2006 00:47:40 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > So people sat around books, didn't they? > RT > never ever doubted it. You should get some new glasses, because I was talking abou how these songs were performed before they were published Ma

[LUTE] Re: There is thy Sting

2006-10-14 Thread Phalese
In einer eMail vom 15.10.2006 00:34:59 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > Why? > RT > Ok, now we have reached the showdown point. Sorry but everytime it come to a point that is uncomfortable for you, you backdown. You know they use amplification, you just don't want

[LUTE] Re: There is thy Sting

2006-10-14 Thread Phalese
In einer eMail vom 15.10.2006 00:25:35 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > So all the publishers formatted these books against people's > will??? > RT I don't know what your problem is and I can understand you are eager to discredit everything I say to prote

[LUTE] Re: There is thy Sting

2006-10-14 Thread Phalese
In einer eMail vom 15.10.2006 00:29:12 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > I've heard the duo in a huge space that was all glass and concrete. > RT Without amplification ? -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/

[LUTE] Re: There is thy Sting

2006-10-14 Thread Phalese
In einer eMail vom 14.10.2006 23:55:58 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > Did other composers have a similar strategy, having published books > similarly? > RT I know Edin doesn't like reading books about the lute, but I have picked up that bad habit of reading the

[LUTE] Re: There is thy Sting

2006-10-14 Thread Phalese
In einer eMail vom 14.10.2006 23:43:05 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > And also totally lacking any character. > RT Character is a matter most likely a matter of opinion and I would doubt if any performance by anyone is "totally lacking any character", but the use of

[LUTE] Re: There is thy Sting

2006-10-14 Thread Phalese
In einer eMail vom 14.10.2006 23:15:21 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > I don't doubt that you are right about professionals singing Dowland's > songs and amateurs having some training. Concerning the matter of > singing at the table, surely you must have forgotten the

[LUTE] Re: Why re-entrant tuning?

2006-10-14 Thread Phalese
In einer eMail vom 13.10.2006 20:05:06 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > So is this why the gittern is also tuned re-entrantly? For the campanile > effects? Given that it's so much smaller than a theorbo, and has wire strings > as well, the issue of breakage and tensio

[LUTE] Re: There is thy Sting

2006-10-14 Thread Phalese
In einer eMail vom 14.10.2006 20:34:47 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > That's okay, I guess, but I think that it's our sacred duty not to > encourage them! Sacred Duty! Don't get saying that about sting or even anything less extreme (as I did) as people seem to star

[LUTE] There is thy Sting

2006-10-14 Thread Phalese
Hi, you may have wondered about my lack of sting comments, well I have been having tremendous fun lurking around various forums. It is so amusing reading sting fans who see him as the saviour of renaissance singing. The observer published an article about the BBC message forum where the genera

[LUTE] Re: Too soft to live

2006-10-12 Thread Phalese
In einer eMail vom 12.10.2006 21:40:00 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > Somehow the modern "hip" - in my opinion - has accepted > too soft playing. Could not agree more Mark -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~w

[LUTE] Re: Too soft to live

2006-10-12 Thread Phalese
In einer eMail vom 12.10.2006 21:13:13 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > unfrettable > diatonically tuned strings (as many lute types had) just couldn't cope > across their full range in modulation. That is the reason that the mandora became popular and why it is pr

[LUTE] Re: Too soft to live

2006-10-12 Thread Phalese
In einer eMail vom 12.10.2006 18:01:43 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > And, sure, technique will be different, too I think someone earlier spoke about playing closer to the bridge, I think this important, 99% of the time none of my fingers are near the rose at all,

[LUTE] Re: Too soft to live

2006-10-12 Thread Phalese
In einer eMail vom 12.10.2006 16:53:31 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > Because of something Linda Sayce said about the mandora Without saying anything too definite about what Lynda said, it may be that the lute never died out in the way that we think. Maybe the mando

[LUTE] Re: too soft?

2006-10-11 Thread Phalese
In einer eMail vom 11.10.2006 22:18:38 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > What's your theory? I don't know enough to have my own theory, but I think that this period probably holds some surprises. Maybe the mandora was more widely played that we think and it seems that

[LUTE] Re: too soft?

2006-10-11 Thread Phalese
In einer eMail vom 11.10.2006 21:51:38 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > I for one never made that assumption. In my view the guitar > prevailed, whereas the lute died. The guitar may have gone through > some hard times in the 19thC, but it has successfully evolved

[LUTE] Re: more Sting

2006-10-11 Thread Phalese
In einer eMail vom 11.10.2006 16:58:20 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > Apparently as early as 2001 Sting has collaborated with Luca Pianca, (of > the > Il Giardino Armonico (and the "S") fame). > RT In one of his interviews sting said his secret was always to work

[LUTE] Besser als jeder andere

2006-10-10 Thread Phalese
Hi, forget about the A, B and other lists we now have the official view from the DG magazine KlassikAkzente "Edin Karamasow, 41, spielt Laute. Besser als jeder andere und vornehmlich mit Andreas Scholl. " http://www.klassikakzente.de/edin_karamazov_die_laute_aus_dem_labyrinth_114921.jsp Transla

[LUTE] Re: The last word goes to Sting

2006-10-10 Thread Phalese
In einer eMail vom 11.10.2006 04:48:49 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > Andrew Lawrence-King has been sticking his double-harp everywhere he could, > > including Biber. > Go bark up that tree. > RT > I am not an expert on historical harps and maybe a double-harp is

[LUTE] Re: The last word goes to Sting

2006-10-10 Thread Phalese
In einer eMail vom 10.10.2006 13:40:02 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > Actually I already suggested to my Duo-Partner to start an action "A > tribute to Sting" for lutenists and to perform hits by Police and Sting on > Lute(s). > > I would offer to collect all cont

[LUTE] Re: Terzi and hip

2006-10-10 Thread Phalese
In einer eMail vom 10.10.2006 11:25:27 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > No hip-police out there with a comment on this? > I hope I don't get thrown out of the force :) Sounds good, pity Sting didn't give either of you a ring. Sorry to dissapoint, but what my ears fi

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