> Here is some more press stuff from the promotion tour for his Dowland
> Album.
> he is realy going for the whole "sting saves the universe" thing..
It will be a rough ride. Hold onto your wig.
RT
Sorry to dissapoint but I don't wear a wig, that would be more the archlute
period :)
best wish
h.edu
Verschickt: Mi., 27.Sept.2006, 10:38
Thema: [LUTE] Re: Single strung archlute !!!
Could you mail me the "profile" you refer to? Who decided what the early
music profile is? Were the lutenists of the 16th century trying to reproduce
the music of the 13th? I don't think so
e. That's
how powerful and wonderful this music is.
For me the music the thing not the historical period in which it arose.
All the Best,
Gary
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Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 3:32 AM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Single strung arch
On Sep 27, 2006, at 6:35 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> what is the advantage of a single strung archlute, if
> they are so good I don't want to miss out on the fun.
Good for classical guitarists used to single strings.
May prevent twanging of strings within a course.
Easier to tune.
Cheaper.
L
Dear Daniel and All,
I think most people would agree with Bob Spencer's (1976!) article that
there are two things called "archlute". One is the Italian solo lute of
the 17th century, typically 58/85cm with 14 courses (*all* double,
according to surviving examples). The other is the continuo in
Daniel Shoskes wrote:
> with Edin Karamazov sitting on lute and archlute.
Is that why there are lots of nasty noises?
Couldn't resist...
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Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 12:16 AM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Single strung archlute !!!
> It seems he will be playing "Message in a bottle" especially for you.
Thanks Mark, from now on I'm all ears!
>
On Sep 26, 2006, at 7:16 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> - Sting/Gwen Stefani collaboration for the Super Bowl
I was staring the whole time at Stefani. Was Sting on stage?
It appears we have rushed to judgement. As you can see here:
http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,14932-2227
In einer eMail vom 27.09.2006 00:56:27 Westeuropäische Normalzeit schreibt
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> I wouldn't either ... unless this lady will trumpet his voice part ;))
>
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio3/classical/newgenerations/balsom.shtml
>
> Alexander
It seems he will be playing "Message in
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> Please a last time, what is the advantage of a single strung archlute
A little louder, a little easier to tune.
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Subject: [LUTE] Re: Single strung archlute !!!
> But I would not listen to the "Early music show" next month where his live
> concert will be broadcast he is planning t
In einer eMail vom 27.09.2006 00:23:16 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt
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> That's right and lets be thankful to the guy admitting the end of 'message
> in a bottle' sort of dribble!
>
> Alexander
>
I made a mistake I meant bad publicity is a rare occurance.
Probably m
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Subject: [LUTE] Re: Single strung archlute !!!
> Take it easy I don't think our little debate hear will change the course
> of
> this CD reception.
> Good publicity i
In einer eMail vom 26.09.2006 23:42:12 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt
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> You are being ludicrous. Edin's archlute is double-strung entirely, and
> Sting's- partially, judging from the photos that CLEARLY show double strings
>
> on the fingerboard.
> Cease and desist a
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> My disgust of single strung archlutes is fueled by a lack of information.
> Come on tell me all why you love these instruments. I mean Edin has
> wonderful
> credentials looking forward to hearing why he chose that instrument.
You are being ludicrous. Edin's archlute is
In einer eMail vom 26.09.2006 23:15:28 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt
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> MArcello Vitale's is double-strung. And (HORROR), he plays with Peter
> Gabriel.
> RT
>
Thanks for the info that they were also double strung nice to learn
something. I would still like to k
At 05:15 PM 9/26/2006, Roman Turovsky wrote:
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>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
>Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 12:48 PM
>Subject: [LUTE] Re: Single strung archlute !!!
>
>
> &g
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From: "Eugene C. Braig IV" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 12:48 PM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Single strung archlute !!!
> At 12:14 PM 9/26/2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>I have a few
In einer eMail vom 26.09.2006 20:27:11 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt
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> Hammered dulcimer is as 'HIP' as it can only be (for the 15th - 16th
> century
> European music) and may not even be, as is widely believed, of 'oriental'
> origin ...
>
> Alexander
>
Hi,
I
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> So what do they do use lots of drums and oriental instruments like
> hammered
> dulcimers etc.
Hammered dulcimer is as '
In einer eMail vom 26.09.2006 18:47:31 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt
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> When I tried to tell him how I saw his modern
> guitar to differ from the historic application of the term by which he
> called it, he hastened on to autograph stuff for his unquestioning
> admir
At 12:14 PM 9/26/2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>I have a few copies of the American magazine Renaissance.
>One of the then has a title story called the Lute Reborn.
>On the cover there is a picture of Orwain Phyfe playing what could best be
>descrobed as a steel stung western guitar with with vihu
At 22:55 25-09-2006 -0500, Edward Martin wrote:
>I have been diplomatically silent on this one thus far, but here is what I
>have to say:
And, I agree, that the sound is very jarring from hearing
>the snippets (in fact, so jarring that it banishes friendly sleep [quoting
>Dowland]).
Fitti
In einer eMail vom 26.09.2006 16:39:37 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt
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> Which is a particularly odd notion because I almost never see lutes at
> renaissance fairs. You're more likely to see steel-strung Dreadnaught
> guitars strumming Americanized Irish drinking song
In einer eMail vom 26.09.2006 14:48:52 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt
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> Instead, we intentionally attempted to appeal to the same audience who may
> listen to Dead Can Dance, or Loreena McKennitt.
If you read my original mail that started all this sting stuff.
You wi
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From: "gary digman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "lutelist"
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Single strung archlute !!!
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 03:02:48 -0700
>Early muisic movement? Is there a manifesto? Play it as you hear and feel
>it, make it
At 08:46 AM 9/26/2006, Ron Andrico wrote:
>The luteseemsto meansomethingentirely different to
>different individuals. For many here in the US, it appears to have a huge
>'Renaissance Fair' appeal, complete with the costumes and comedy.
Which is a particularly odd noti
> I think you have proved my point that the early music movement has lost
> it's
> profile.
I would agree, but as I said in an earlier posting, I think the early music
movement is taken into the main stream classical musical world. That's not a
bad thing, only confusing at times. Lute players a
In einer eMail vom 26.09.2006 12:09:41 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt
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> Early muisic movement?
Is there a manifesto?
Play it as you hear and feel and make it your own.
I think you have proved my point that the early music movement has lost it's
profile.
best wishe
> I think the early music
> movement is taken into the main stream classical musical world. That's not
> a
>
> bad thing, only confusing at times.
>>
I think the better term might be assimulated.
<<
Resistance is futile.
>>
I think it has taken a lot of
the attitude and edge out of early musi
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Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 9:58 AM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Single strung archlute !!!
> In einer eMail vom 25.09.2006 17:25:56 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit
schreibt
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
>
> > Interestingly, POD suggested single stinging as an o
On Sep 26, 2006, at 11:48 AM, Rob Dorsey wrote:
> Scholarly criticisms aside, doesn't Sting at least get credit for
> trying?
> And, aren't we a bit disloyal to the music in not believing that
> it can
> stand on its own? This music has endured for 4 centuries. It can
> surely
> stand up t
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> The irony of it all is, his performance is as likely to be
> >as HIP as any other
I still doubt that is true of the singing, but it may be possible
But in regards to the lute playing that is not th
xactly. I think it is pretty cool for a pop musician
> to try
>> anything like this whether it's historically accurate or not. At
> least
>> John Dowland's music will be brought to a new audience if nothing
> else.
>> Who knows what additonal interest that wi
oo close to the
> > performers. If that is the sound they are after, good luck to them,
> > but I suspect it was imposed on them by a sound engineer unfamiliar
> > with lutes. If the mike is too close, it will capture that harsh,
> > brittle sound you get when you have your ears rig
All,
I've followed this thread at a great distance and with some trepidation. In
all, it is sad when scholarly minds wander so far from the path and no
longer follow the "best angels of our nature." Passion is the impetus that
drives greatness, for sure, but the easy and slippery slope from pas
ld be some distance away, where they are
> more likely to capture the sound a listener would normally hear from
> an accoustic instrument.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Stewart McCoy.
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Lindberg Richard-MGIA0539" <[EMAIL PROTECTE
On Sep 25, 2006, at 5:46 PM, Thomas Schall wrote:
> In the meantime the Early Music Movement seem to have changed the
> direction. More and more players don't even try to play historical
> informed but just play period instruments. I am not sure what to think
> about this phenomenon ...
Keep in m
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> Interestingly, POD suggeste
Ed wrote:
>>I'm already preparing a sign for my next gig: "As sung by
>>Sting" ha, ha.
That's exactly what I was thinking about when driving back to
switzerland this afternoon. I was also toying with the idea of a webpage
more or less advertizing sting and setting some links to some of my own
pe
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From: Paul Pleijsier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 4:26 PM
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Single strung archlute !!!
> If the CD sounds anything like what you can hear at Amazon then it
> must go down as one of the worst lute recordi
In einer eMail vom 25.09.2006 20:21:05 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt
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> BTW, in his article "Chitarrone, Theorbo and Archlute" late Bob Spencer
> also mentions the possibility that Banchieri might have meant by
> "chitarrone" an instrument tuned lute like and by single
BTW, in his article "Chitarrone, Theorbo and Archlute" late Bob Spencer
also mentions the possibility that Banchieri might have meant by
"chitarrone" an instrument tuned lute like and by single strings. That is
why I sometimes have called my sometimes single stringed archlute a
"Bachieri archlute
It has been long time when I last tuned my archlute - which now is
stringed by single strings on the fingerboard (and of course single
basses). I tuned the beast (or the "axe" a'la RT), and what nice and lute
like sound it has! And there is not a single gut string... just the
horrible and un-HIP
In einer eMail vom 25.09.2006 19:08:05 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt
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> ...Then when some one, in an effort to cast aspersion, compared the lute
> playing to a classical guitarist - I just had to order the CD.
>
I just had another listen this time to Forlorne Hope F
t Stings CD is a representation of musical life in "ye olde England", but
> it has absolutely no basis.
>
> Maybe we should record a tribute to sting in a Karaoke bar, because his music
> is probably performed there more often than by sting on stage.
>
> All the best
In einer eMail vom 25.09.2006 17:25:56 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt
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> Interestingly, POD suggested single stinging as an option.
If this is true then maybe the time has come for a reformation of the early
music movement, how did we get in this mess !
Mark
--
To ge
For some reason my first reaction upon hearing the Sting excerpts was
to laugh out loud, so it certainly can't be all bad. :-). I just
couldn't help imagining what an exasperated teacher would say to him.
Maybe someday some of the tracks will end up on that "most annoying
music show" on NPR
In einer eMail vom 25.09.2006 17:42:38 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt
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> Are you disagreeing with the premise that people played for their own
> entertainment in the home and probably didn't do such a great job of
> it? Just because they had a professional teacher, d
On Sep 25, 2006, at 10:08 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> For another distorted view of renaissance music have a look at the
> amazon.com review of the Sting (g)lute CD.
>
> "But it's important to remember that music of this period was
> routinely heard as a casual diversion in private home
I am currently having an archlute built for me and at the LSA I asked Paul
O'Dette for any advice on specifications, since he has an archlute by the same
builder. Interestingly, POD suggested single stinging as an option. Now I don't
know whether that recommendation was because of my personal c
e more often than by sting on stage.
All the best
Mark
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Verschickt: Mo., 25.Sept.2006, 15:18
Thema: [LUTE] Re: Single strung archlute !!!
> But the question still remains why didn't they use a l
On Monday 25 September 2006 12:10, you wrote:
> Hi,
> thanks for the link to the lute maker.
> But the photos showed a liuto attiorbato with double bass strings.
> So doesn't apply to the instruments they are playing.
> Also maybe the reason sting wraps his arms around the lute is to hide the
> si
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