,
Stewart McCoy.
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Subject: [CITTERN] memorization
I was wondering whether anyone has any strategies for memorizing pieces.
In the last few years I've had no luck at all memorizing music
On Apr 4, 2008, at 4:24 PM, Stewart McCoy wrote:
If you really had to memorise a piece, for example, because
you were going to perform it on stage in a play, you'd find a way to
memorise it.
Boy, if that were only true! It's exactly the pieces that I perform
that I'm concerned about.
I
Subject: [CITTERN] memorization
I was wondering whether anyone has any strategies for memorizing
pieces.
In the last few years I've had no luck at all memorizing music and
really can't play without the tab in front of me any more. I think
part of it might be age (although I'm not that old
On memorization: The Chinese pianist Liu Chi Kung was imprisoned by the
Maoists for 7 years after the cultural revolution. During his imprisonment
he had no access to a piano but, since the guards held him is some regard,
was granted a cell with a window. After his release he, like so many
Rudolf Kehrer had a similar experience in GULAG, he survived by having
penciled keys on a wooden plank.
RT
On memorization: The Chinese pianist Liu Chi Kung was imprisoned by the
Maoists for 7 years after the cultural revolution. During his
imprisonment
he had no access to a piano
you can.
There is a vast territory between sight-reading and memorization. It
is quite possible to have studied a piece of music , thought about
it, made interpretive decisions about it and played it many. many
times without having it memorized. Such a performance will be a far
cry from
. However, some players work like this with any sheet of music placed
in front of them, deliberately avoiding memorization. I dont do that, I
play mostly from memory, but others do things differently. It has been
said to me that playing by sight allows a larger repetoire, which I
readily acede, it takes
Stephens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: memorization
If your giving a concert of Weiss and decide half way thought to play
the Chaconne and happen to have the tab handy, this will hardly be a
professional concert, will it?
Not necessarily. Has been
At 5:14 PM -0400 4/6/05, James A Stimson wrote:
Just for the record, Ronn McFarlane has performed entire concerts from
memory. This has sometimes included some of his own compositions -- which
of course is an entirely different thing regarding memorization
How so?
Dear Ed:
Well, that's
of the patterns -
but that again means a memorization specific to the piece. (And as to the
leading directions I recommend Fux's Gradus ad Parnassum, still available as
a paperback although it has been off the best seller list for 500 years -
only to suggest a basis, not to define the entirety
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Subject: Re: memorization/Re: Gallot speaks...
Wow, motion and motor - and time
, March 31, 2005 7:56 AM
Subject: Re: memorization
The only reason for doing anything is the love of doing it.
Gary Digman
Only in a perfect world.
Michael Thames
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the scale here, has
block chords here and then comes to a cadence.
Maybe we had the same teacher Marion! I remember my composition
teacher, Will Johnson saying exactly that. I think this kind of
analysis is very useful for memorization and 'organic' because you
are applying your own terms which may
Stephens
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Subject: Re: memorization
I also, happen to know that no record company will invest in something
that won't sell.
Weiss-Barto series sold over 7.
RT
I have heard, that Naxos, pays an artist
Dear All:
Just for the record, Ronn McFarlane has performed entire concerts from
memory. This has sometimes included some of his own compositions -- which
of course is an entirely different thing regarding memorization -- but also
many 16th century classics and his Scottish repertoire.
Cheers
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Subject: Antwort: Re: Antwort: Re: memorization
I'm not sure I have understood the term sign off.
The version for Schouster is in Bach's hand and signed for the lute and
we
suggested.
Although I've enjoyed the Venere Quartet CD that the LSA is selling,
I wonder if in the future the LSA might be better off to do things
completely online.
Tim
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: gary digman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 2:44 AM
Subject: Re: memorization
You wouldn't sell 7 CDs at $15-$20 per CD. So a significant number of
people now enjoying Weiss and Barto would not be.
Gary
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Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 8:07 AM
Subject: RE: Antwort: Re: memorization
Thomas,
I think that most of the expense in putting out a CD comes from
marketing
Subject: Re: Antwort: Re: memorization
I do not know if my judgement is heretic, but between a Bach's or Weiss'
CD I have no doubts...
Weiss is really intersting, but Bach is a genius
Paolo
Timothy wrote,
Record companies decide which bands will
have a market and those are the ones
I do not know if my judgment is heretic, but between a Bach's or Weiss' CD
I have no doubts...
Weiss is really interesting, but Bach is a genius
Paolo
Yes, I wonder who the next genius to make an all Bach lute recording is
going to be.
Karamazov or Mascardi.
RT
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I would like some definite information on the true extent of the lute
rep. I hear, for instance about the English Golden Age. How many printed
sources? 4? 5? How many manuscripts, and in those ms. How many pieces that
are repeated.
D. A. Smith in _A History of the Lute_ says in the Epilog
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Subject: Re: Antwort: Re: memorization
I do not know if my judgment is heretic, but between a Bach's or Weiss' CD
I have no doubts...
Weiss is really interesting, but Bach is a genius
Paolo
Yes, I wonder who the next genius to make an all Bach lute recording is
going
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Subject: Re: Antwort: Re: memorization
I agree with Michael that Weiss wins on lute, but as so many
things
Could it then be there are actually 5000 lutenist in the world?
If you count everyone who owns a lute, probably a lot more. We had
this discussion a year or more ago on the LuteNet.
cheers,
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Saitama, Japan
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Thank you, Michael for your kind words. I believe that many people
agree with us
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Joseph Mayes wrote:
some duplication? I would say much duplication.
Julia Craig McFeely addresses this issue. I forgot the number, but it
may be less duplication than you think. Anybody?
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Evangelina Mascardi already did a record of Bach
Thomas
Am Freitag, 1. April 2005 18:27 schrieb Roman Turovsky:
I do not know if my judgment is heretic, but between a Bach's or Weiss'
CD
I have no doubts...
Weiss is really interesting, but Bach is a genius
Paolo
Yes, I wonder
Evangelina Mascardi already did a record of Bach
Thomas
But it includes some SLW as well.
RT
Am Freitag, 1. April 2005 18:27 schrieb Roman Turovsky:
I do not know if my judgment is heretic, but between a Bach's or Weiss'
CD
I have no doubts...
Weiss is really interesting, but Bach is
Dear All:
Just for the record, Ronn McFarlane has performed entire concerts from
memory. This has sometimes included some of his own compositions -- which
of course is an entirely different thing regarding memorization
How so?
--
Ed Durbrow
Saitama, Japan
http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow
I think that most of the expense in putting out a CD comes from
marketing the CD, not in physically producing it. Judging from his
website, Ed Durbrow does professional level recording in his home.
Thank you.
I've tried voice (spoken word) recording using a
laptop and a TASCAM interface and was
, April 01, 2005 10:31 AM
Subject: Re: Antwort: Re: memorization
Evangelina Mascardi already did a record of Bach
Thomas
But it includes some SLW as well.
RT
Am Freitag, 1. April 2005 18:27 schrieb Roman Turovsky:
I do not know if my judgment is heretic, but between a Bach's or
Weiss'
CD
10:31 AM
Subject: Re: Antwort: Re: memorization
Evangelina Mascardi already did a record of Bach
Thomas
But it includes some SLW as well.
RT
Am Freitag, 1. April 2005 18:27 schrieb Roman Turovsky:
I do not know if my judgment is heretic, but between a Bach's or
Weiss'
CD
If you go to the links section of the Lute Society of America web site
www.LuteSocietyofAmerica.org
there are links to several big research projects that will give you a bit
of information on how much is out there. The Craig-Feeley dissertation on
Elizabethan manuscripts is there as well as some
.
RT
Michael Thames
www.ThamesClassicalGuitars.com
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Evangelina Mascardi already did a record
: Friday, April 01, 2005 11:47 AM
Subject: OT: memorization
Dear Michael,
BTW, Roman, the Who are
were - two of them are dead
a rock band consisting of four guys, one playing
guitar, one on Bass, a funny drummer , and a Messo soprano, at times.
and the two left are a trout farmer (I think
: memorization
This is really a very interesting thread! I memorize pieces for solo
performance, and sight read (duo, or whatever) ensemble pieces. I find that
memorization actually gives me much more freedom in interpretation, from one
performance to the next. I memorize the notes, not the way I play
?
Best regards,
Marion
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Subject: Re: memorization
Yes, I totally agree So why
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Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 4:11 PM
Subject: Re: memorization
When Nigel North was here recently he played 3 concerts in the
San
Francisco
Bach never wrote anything for lute???
Gary Digman
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Subject: Re: memorization
Stephan
: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 9:18 PM
Subject: Re: memorization
Yes, I totally agree So why is Paul Odette's next CD going to have
3 Bach suites, and one Weiss. Why did Nigel North, record the Chaconne
and
a 4 CD set of all Bach, and one Weiss suite, Edwardo Egüez 2 CD's of
all
Bach
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Bach never wrote anything for lute???
Gary Digman
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I agree: the lute is a thing of minorities.
I can speak about my own case: I had my first active contact with the
lute world only 3 years ago.
Before I was, since many years, an amateur recorder and traverso player.
In this 3 years I have immersed myself deeply in the lute and its music.
Dear Denys
I have heard the claim - only from lute players - that the lute
repertoire is much larger than that of the classical guitar. This seems to
be accepted as undisputed fact - again, only by lute players.
I have been immersed in both worlds now for over 40 years, I have been
Hear Hear!!
On 3/31/05 2:04 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This is really a very interesting thread! I memorize pieces for solo
performance, and sight read (duo, or whatever) ensemble pieces. I find that
memorization actually gives me much more freedom in interpretation
I have heard the claim - only from lute players - that the lute
repertoire is much larger than that of the classical guitar. This seems to
be accepted as undisputed fact - again, only by lute players.
I have been immersed in both worlds now for over 40 years, I have been
paying close
This is really a very interesting thread! I memorize pieces for solo
performance, and sight read (duo, or whatever) ensemble pieces. I find that
memorization actually gives me much more freedom in interpretation, from one
performance to the next. I memorize the notes, not the way I play
There is an enormous amount of it churned out by MO and the like every
year,
but I doubt that any of it is Music, with the exception of Peteris
Vasks
guitar Sonata (probably the only guitar piece by a world-class composer
during 20th century). Sound effects pap of Delpriora's type just cannot
Yes, I totally agree So why is Paul Odette's next CD going to have
3 Bach suites, and one Weiss. Why did Nigel North, record the Chaconne
and
a 4 CD set of all Bach, and one Weiss suite, Edwardo Eg? CD's of all
Bach? and no Weiss. I'll tell you whyit's marketed to guitarist's.
There is an enormous amount of it churned out by MO and the like every
year,
but I doubt that any of it is Music, with the exception of Peteris
Vasks
guitar Sonata (probably the only guitar piece by a world-class composer
during 20th century). Sound effects pap of Delpriora's type just
This is really a very interesting thread! I memorize pieces for solo
performance, and sight read (duo, or whatever) ensemble pieces. I find that
memorization actually gives me much more freedom in interpretation, from one
performance to the next. I memorize the notes, not the way I play them
AM
Subject: Re: memorization
Michael,
How would you estimate the breakdown of the 3000 who play lutes?
How many play renaissance lute only? How many play baroque lute only?
How may play both, theorbo, etc? How many play lutes who have NOT
also studied guitar? Has anyone done a study
: Thursday, March 31, 2005 8:32 AM
Subject: Re: memorization
Yes, I totally agree So why is Paul Odette's next CD going to have
3 Bach suites, and one Weiss. Why did Nigel North, record the Chaconne
and
a 4 CD set of all Bach, and one Weiss suite, Edwardo Eg? CD's of all
Bach
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Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 4:41 AM
Subject: Antwort: Re: memorization
The small prelude in c-minor is for lute and the g-minor suite (pour
Schouster) is an arrangement of a cello suite for lute by Bach himself.
All
other works
31, 2005 4:35 AM
Subject: Re: memorization
The only reason for doing anything is the love of doing it.
Gary Digman
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Yes, I totally agree So why is Paul Odette's next CD going to have
3
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Yes - it's a pity that many lute players repeat the same pieces all over
again. But in difference to the guitar world we do
Subject: Re: memorization
Bach never wrote anything for lute???
Gary Digman
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Subject: Re
Weiss-Barto series sold over 7.
RT
Is that 70,000, or 7000?
The FORMER.
RT
Yes, I totally agree So why is Paul Odette's next CD going to have
3 Bach suites, and one Weiss. Why did Nigel North, record the Chaconne
and
a 4 CD set of all Bach, and one Weiss suite, Edwardo Eg?
Where did you hear that? I had an employee of Naxos tell me that they
anticipated sales of their CDs to average about 2000 and that was why they
do not work with the usual royalty arrangements but pay a flat fee to the
artists on their label.
Nancy Carlin
No question, I totally agree
in the world?
Michael Thames
www.ThamesClassicalGuitars.com
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Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 12:25 PM
Subject: Re: memorization
Weiss
in the world?
I tried estimating once and came up with 6000, based on the new lute
production rate.
RT
Subject: Re: memorization
Weiss-Barto series sold over 7.
RT
Is that 70,000, or 7000?
The FORMER.
RT
Yes, I totally agree So why is Paul Odette's next CD going to
have
3
in the world?
Michael Thames
That was before #6.
RT
Subject: Re: memorization
Weiss-Barto series sold over 7.
RT
Is that 70,000, or 7000?
The FORMER.
RT
Yes, I totally agree So why is Paul Odette's next CD going to
have
3 Bach suites, and one Weiss. Why did Nigel
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On 3/31/05 9:55 AM, Roman Turovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have heard the claim - only from lute players - that the lute
repertoire is much larger than
Manolo,
Thank yu for sharing. It is a pleasure to meet you on line.
Best regards,
Marion
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Subject: Re: memorization
Dear Denys
I have heard the claim - only from lute players - that the lute
repertoire is much larger than that of the classical guitar. This seems to
be accepted as undisputed fact - again, only by lute players.
I have been immersed in both worlds
Dear Denys
Thank you for your cordial response, but it raises as many questions as
it answers - more or less. (see below)
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Dear Joseph,
I think that's a fair challenge!
I don't have the week or two spare that it would take to
Emerson Quartet
James Levine
Pierre Boulez
etc.
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This is really a very interesting
I take it you do not care for Henze's music. Great
stuff really - especially when you read thru some of
it. Sort of breaks out of the mold of the spanish
guitar music stuff - difficult to play - takes
concentration and several hearings to appreciate.
Gesualdo probably had that same problem.
I saw Julian Bream premier the Henze Royal Winter
piece in NY back in the 1970's - He read it from the
manuscript - I never thought that he lacked proper
professional stage presence, appeal to the general
public or acceptance by guitarists. Why don't you get
off the soap box and think about
I take it you do not care for Henze's music. Great
stuff really - especially when you read thru some of
it. Sort of breaks out of the mold of the spanish
guitar music stuff - difficult to play - takes
concentration and several hearings to appreciate.
Gesualdo probably had that same
, though.
Michael Thames
www.ThamesClassicalGuitars.com
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Subject: Re: Repertoire, was: memorization
I take it you do not care for Henze's music. Great
stuff really
],
lute@cs.dartmouth.edu, Sal Salvaggio [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I saw Julian Bream premier the Henze Royal Winter
piece in NY back in the 1970's - He read it from the
manuscript - I never thought that he lacked proper
professional stage presence
Yes, I totally agree So why is Paul Odette's next CD going to have
3 Bach suites, and one Weiss. Why did Nigel North, record the Chaconne
and
a 4 CD set of all Bach, and one Weiss suite, Edwardo Eg?
If, as I guess, Edwardo Eg? is Eduardo Eguez, he has recorded so far Bach
(2
that you are too much of a gentleman to do that :-)
Best wishes,
Denys
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Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 10:09 PM
Subject: Re: memorization
Dear Denys
Thank
, but if right it would seem that
the memorization need only be the theme and that the variations could vary,
and yet fit with the continuo or the other instruments. It raises the
question as to whether the written music of those days really reflects the
play, or merely the composer's guides to his piece
their
Tablature in front of them, or it was taboo, or not the custom to do so.
Michael Thames
www.ThamesClassicalGuitars.com
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I
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That was before #6.
RT
Sorry, I figured everyone who was going to buy #6 all ready did.
Michael Thames
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I also, happen to know that no record company will invest in something
that won't sell.
Weiss-Barto series sold over 7.
RT
I have heard, that Naxos, pays
are the only one's which make use of a
14th course (in german baroque - the archlute goes down to F and usually
has 14 courses).
Thomas
Michael Thames [EMAIL PROTECTED] am 31.03.2005 17:54:21
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The small
: memorization/Re: Gallot speaks...
Ed,
Thanks for advice. I think your right about memorizing it and then using
the tab as a reference. Just playing through stuff is fun but you don't
really progress, or perfect anything. Sight reading it seems, can become a
crutch one can never free oneself
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Sent: Mar 29, 2005 10:19 PM
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Subject: Re: memorization/Re: Gallot speaks...
Ed,
Thanks for advice. I think your right about memorizing it and then using
the tab
memorization. Here is a
short excerpt of what I have garnered.
There are different types of memory. The more different kinds of
memory you can draw on, the more solid the memory will likely be.
Motor memory: Also known as muscle memory or tactile memory. Everyone
seems to agree that muscle
I wonder if lute concerts will ever be on the level of guitar concerts
where lutenist's have the proper professional stage presence to not be
staring at their music all the time. This might give them more appeal to
the general concert going public, and more acceptance by guitarist's. I
always
Thank you, Ed, for your very interesting and informative message.
Please see my comments below.
Cheers,
Marion
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Sent: Mar 30, 2005 9:04 AM
To: lute list lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: Re: memorization/Re: Gallot speaks...
I would
: memorization
Michael,
Just to clarify the point about the lute players decline. I had
mentioned that there seem to be less than 30 years ago when we had more
than 25 of them at a lute event in the San Francisco area. On the other
hand the LSA has had a 35% increase in members last year
If your giving a concert of Weiss and decide half way thought to play
the Chaconne and happen to have the tab handy, this will hardly be a
professional concert, will it?
Not necessarily. Has been seen before, at the highest of levels.
RT
Not if one has never read through the chaconne
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Dear Michael,
You wrote:
I wonder if lute concerts will ever be on the level of guitar concerts
where lutenist's have the proper professional stage presence to not be
staring
Stephan wrote,
Segovia (whom I admire greatly) did much to establish the form and content
of the guitar recital format, which included playing from memory, but it
has
to be said that the content of his performances was predictable.
There are only so many times that you want to hear the Bach
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Dear Michael,
You wrote:
I wonder if lute concerts will ever be on the level of guitar concerts
where lutenist's have the proper professional stage presence to not be
staring at their music all the time
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Stephan wrote,
Segovia (whom I admire greatly) did much to establish the form and
content
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Eduardo Eguez has recorded Weiss.
ed
Yes, I totally agree So why is Paul
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Stephan wrote,
Segovia (whom I admire greatly) did much to establish the form
This is really a very interesting thread! I memorize pieces for solo
performance, and sight read (duo, or whatever) ensemble pieces. I find that
memorization actually gives me much more freedom in interpretation, from one
performance to the next. I memorize the notes, not the way I play
wasn't/isn't that kind of performance typical for Bob Barto?
Thomas
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Stephan wrote,
Segovia (whom I admire greatly) did much to establish the form and
content
of the guitar recital format, which included playing from memory
Dear Michael,
You wrote:
I wonder if lute concerts will ever be on the level of guitar concerts
where lutenist's have the proper professional stage presence to not be
staring at their music all the time. This might give them more appeal to
the general concert going public, and more acceptance
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