Re: [M100] Questions regarding Full Null Modem Cables, specif Serial to USB

2017-04-28 Thread Paul Bucalo
Thanks, Roger! -Original Message- From: Roger Mullins To: Model 100 Discussion Sent: Fri, Apr 28, 2017 5:13 pm Subject: Re: [M100] Questions regarding Full Null Modem Cables, specif Serial to USB Here are a couple of YouTube videos that I referred to when I was getting my

Re: [M100] Questions regarding Full Null Modem Cables, specif Serial to USB

2017-04-28 Thread Mike Stein
Subject: Re: [M100] Questions regarding Full Null Modem Cables, specif Serial to USB Here are a couple of YouTube videos that I referred to when I was getting my system set up. I still had to tweak some things here and there but in general these guys do a pretty good job of walking the view

Re: [M100] Questions regarding Full Null Modem Cables, specif Serial to USB

2017-04-28 Thread Roger Mullins
Here are a couple of YouTube videos that I referred to when I was getting my system set up. I still had to tweak some things here and there but in general these guys do a pretty good job of walking the viewer through the process. https://youtu.be/WoPxMRZRBzg <- using a PC and a 102 https://youtu

Re: [M100] Questions regarding Full Null Modem Cables, specif Serial to USB

2017-04-28 Thread Mike Stein
- Original Message - From: John R. Hogerhuis To: Model 100 Discussion Sent: Friday, April 28, 2017 3:23 PM Subject: Re: [M100] Questions regarding Full Null Modem Cables, specif Serial to USB > LaddieAlpha doesn't convert the file, but it corrects the extension. So if >

Re: [M100] Questions regarding Full Null Modem Cables, specif Serial to USB

2017-04-28 Thread Paul Bucalo
Uhm...my bad. It's been a while since I worked in list forums. :/ -Original Message- From: John R. Hogerhuis To: Model 100 Discussion Sent: Fri, Apr 28, 2017 3:23 pm Subject: Re: [M100] Questions regarding Full Null Modem Cables, specif Serial to USB <...> BT

Re: [M100] Questions regarding Full Null Modem Cables, specif Serial to USB

2017-04-28 Thread John R. Hogerhuis
On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 12:12 PM, Lee Olivares wrote: > Thanks MIke! Your clarifications are most appreciated! > > I assume a tokenized .BA file either wont open at all or be "garbled" when > opened in notepad or vi whereas a proper plain-text .DO or .BA will be > readable. > > LaddieAlpha doesn'

Re: [M100] Questions regarding Full Null Modem Cables, specif Serial to USB

2017-04-28 Thread John R. Hogerhuis
On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 10:54 AM, Lee Olivares wrote: > I'd be happy to create a "bootstrap" page on the bitchin100 wiki to go > into the details I initially got hung up on: > > I suggest not making one giant page, but linking to others where necessary. There are some articles already available.

Re: [M100] Questions regarding Full Null Modem Cables, specif Serial to USB

2017-04-28 Thread Lee Olivares
> > Again, LaddieAlpha handles the conversion if necessary. > > Note that there are several low-cost methods of putting TS-DOS into a ROM, > effectively adding it to the OS. > > m > > ----- Original Message - > *From:* Lee Olivares > *To:* Model 100 Discussion &

Re: [M100] Questions regarding Full Null Modem Cables, specif Serial to USB

2017-04-28 Thread Paul Bucalo
That would be great, Lee. Sure help me a lot. -Original Message- From: Lee Olivares To: Model 100 Discussion Sent: Fri, Apr 28, 2017 1:55 pm Subject: Re: [M100] Questions regarding Full Null Modem Cables, specif Serial to USB I'd be happy to create a "bootstrap&qu

Re: [M100] Questions regarding Full Null Modem Cables, specif Serial to USB

2017-04-28 Thread Mike Stein
iginal Message - From: Lee Olivares To: Model 100 Discussion Sent: Friday, April 28, 2017 1:54 PM Subject: Re: [M100] Questions regarding Full Null Modem Cables, specif Serial to USB I'd be happy to create a "bootstrap" page on the bitchin100 wiki to go into th

Re: [M100] Questions regarding Full Null Modem Cables, specif Serial to USB

2017-04-28 Thread Lee Olivares
#x27;s caused a lot of confusion and >>> crashes if they're not renamed during the transfer (although I believe >>> LaddieAlpha also takes care of that issue.) >>> >>> m >>> >>> - Original Message - >>> *From:* Roger Mullins

Re: [M100] Questions regarding Full Null Modem Cables, specif Serial to USB

2017-04-28 Thread Roger Mullins
es if they're not renamed during the transfer (although I believe >> LaddieAlpha also takes care of that issue.) >> >> m >> >> - Original Message - >> *From:* Roger Mullins >> *To:* Model 100 Discussion >> *Sent:* Friday, April 28, 2017 10:5

Re: [M100] Questions regarding Full Null Modem Cables, specif Serial to USB

2017-04-28 Thread Paul Bucalo
Original Message- From: Mike Stein To: Model 100 Discussion Sent: Fri, Apr 28, 2017 11:33 am Subject: Re: [M100] Questions regarding Full Null Modem Cables, specif Serial to USB  I think what we need is a video showing TS-DOS (preferably in ROM) or mcomm in action; I don't know why

Re: [M100] Questions regarding Full Null Modem Cables, specif Serial to USB

2017-04-28 Thread Lee Olivares
ransfer (although I believe > LaddieAlpha also takes care of that issue.) > > m > > - Original Message - > *From:* Roger Mullins > *To:* Model 100 Discussion > *Sent:* Friday, April 28, 2017 10:59 AM > *Subject:* Re: [M100] Questions regarding Full Null Mo

Re: [M100] Questions regarding Full Null Modem Cables, specif Serial to USB

2017-04-28 Thread Mike Stein
akes care of that issue.) m - Original Message - From: Roger Mullins To: Model 100 Discussion Sent: Friday, April 28, 2017 10:59 AM Subject: Re: [M100] Questions regarding Full Null Modem Cables, specif Serial to USB That cable should work fine for you - all I do is go i

Re: [M100] Questions regarding Full Null Modem Cables, specif Serial to USB

2017-04-28 Thread Roger Mullins
around with the options given. It's not the destination that I look forward > to, but how much I can learn on the way there. Forward to the Past! :) > > > -Original Message- > From: Roger Mullins > To: Model 100 Discussion > Sent: Fri, Apr 28, 2017 3:11 am > Su

Re: [M100] Questions regarding Full Null Modem Cables, specif Serial to USB

2017-04-28 Thread Paul Bucalo
Original Message- From: Roger Mullins To: Model 100 Discussion Sent: Fri, Apr 28, 2017 3:11 am Subject: Re: [M100] Questions regarding Full Null Modem Cables, specif Serial to USB Right, that's what it takes for minicom to work properly. My distro is actually a hard drive ins

Re: [M100] Questions regarding Full Null Modem Cables, specif Serial to USB

2017-04-27 Thread Daryl Tester
On Thu, 27 Apr 2017 22:23:09 -0400, Roger Mullins wrote: Right, that's what it takes for minicom to work properly. No probs. /etc/minicom/minirc.dfl is where the defaults are kept, and if your run "minicom -s" as root you can set up the system wide defaults (or there's a local config file that

Re: [M100] Questions regarding Full Null Modem Cables, specif Serial to USB

2017-04-27 Thread Roger Mullins
th it, which is basically transferring downloaded files to my M100. Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device Original message From: Daryl Tester Date: 04/27/2017 9:06 PM (GMT-05:00) To: m100@lists.bitchin100.com Subject: Re: [M100] Questions regarding Full Null Modem Cables, s

Re: [M100] Questions regarding Full Null Modem Cables, specif Serial to USB

2017-04-27 Thread John R. Hogerhuis
On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 6:34 PM, Brian White wrote: > Working way too hard on these serial cables. > > Monoprice 479 works with no adapters, and any old usb adapter you want, > cheap pl2302 no-name are fine, and dlplus on linux is not merely free but > small and minimal requirements to build or r

Re: [M100] Questions regarding Full Null Modem Cables, specif Serial to USB

2017-04-27 Thread Paul Bucalo
Bingo. Thanks, Brian. -Original Message- From: Brian White To: Model 100 Discussion Sent: Thu, Apr 27, 2017 9:34 pm Subject: Re: [M100] Questions regarding Full Null Modem Cables, specif Serial to USB Working way too hard on these serial cables. Monoprice 479 works with no

Re: [M100] Questions regarding Full Null Modem Cables, specif Serial to USB

2017-04-27 Thread Brian White
dy installed. I'll go back give it a thorough > read. Thanks, John! > > > -Original Message- > From: John R. Hogerhuis > To: Model 100 Discussion > Sent: Thu, Apr 27, 2017 8:22 pm > Subject: Re: [M100] Questions regarding Full Null Modem Cables, specif > Seria

Re: [M100] Questions regarding Full Null Modem Cables, specif Serial to USB

2017-04-27 Thread Paul Bucalo
06 pm Subject: Re: [M100] Questions regarding Full Null Modem Cables, specif Serial to USB Roger wrote: > I also use Linux, running minicom to communicate with my M100 on > ttyd0. From the command line: > > rm /dev/ttyd0 > ln -s ttyUSB0 /dev/ttyd0 > minicom On Th

Re: [M100] Questions regarding Full Null Modem Cables, specif Serial to USB

2017-04-27 Thread Daryl Tester
Roger wrote: I also use Linux, running minicom to communicate with my M100 on ttyd0. From the command line: rm /dev/ttyd0 ln -s ttyUSB0 /dev/ttyd0 minicom On Thu, 27 Apr 2017 20:33:59 -0400, Paul Bucalo wrote: You said you are also using Linux. What flavor of Linux are you

Re: [M100] Questions regarding Full Null Modem Cables, specif Serial to USB

2017-04-27 Thread Paul Bucalo
bject: Re: [M100] Questions regarding Full Null Modem Cables, specif Serial to USB On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 5:15 PM, Paul Bucalo wrote: Hmm...well, LaddieAplha is out, because I only run Windows in a VM, which I rarely use, and I have no interest in developing a greater need for the O/S.

Re: [M100] Questions regarding Full Null Modem Cables, specif Serial to USB

2017-04-27 Thread Paul Bucalo
ssage- From: Roger To: m100 Sent: Thu, Apr 27, 2017 8:08 pm Subject: Re: [M100] Questions regarding Full Null Modem Cables, specif Serial to USB Hi all! I'm a little late to the party here but this is the null modem cable that I got from Monoprice a while back. It works gr

Re: [M100] Questions regarding Full Null Modem Cables, specif Serial to USB

2017-04-27 Thread John R. Hogerhuis
On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 5:15 PM, Paul Bucalo wrote: > Hmm...well, LaddieAplha is out, because I only run Windows in a VM, which > I rarely use, and I have no interest in developing a greater need for the > O/S. The other methods are quite interesting. > Actually LaddieAlpha runs fine on Linux. N

Re: [M100] Questions regarding Full Null Modem Cables, specif Serial to USB

2017-04-27 Thread Paul Bucalo
HTERM looks like a good one for me. Thanks, John. -Original Message- From: John R. Hogerhuis To: Model 100 Discussion Sent: Thu, Apr 27, 2017 7:15 pm Subject: Re: [M100] Questions regarding Full Null Modem Cables, specif Serial to USB On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 11:08 AM Paul

Re: [M100] Questions regarding Full Null Modem Cables, specif Serial to USB

2017-04-27 Thread Paul Bucalo
the links you provided. Thanks, Mike. Appreciated. -Original Message- From: Mike Stein To: Model 100 Discussion Sent: Thu, Apr 27, 2017 7:10 pm Subject: Re: [M100] Questions regarding Full Null Modem Cables, specif Serial to USB  Why not use TS-DOS and LaddieAlpha? http://bitchin10

Re: [M100] Questions regarding Full Null Modem Cables, specif Serial to USB

2017-04-27 Thread Roger
00 Discussion Sent: Thu, Apr 27, 2017 5:45 pm Subject: Re: [M100] Questions regarding Full Null Modem Cables, specif Serial to USB The Linux version of PuTTY works nicely with serial ports. On Apr 27, 2017 17:31, "Paul Bucalo" <mailto:pm...@aol.com>> wrote: Thanks,

Re: [M100] Questions regarding Full Null Modem Cables, specif Serial to USB

2017-04-27 Thread John R. Hogerhuis
On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 11:08 AM Paul Bucalo wrote: > > I just did a search on eBay for a Belkin F3x171-10. Only listing that > came up was selling for $50. Yeah, not going to happen. I'll look around to > see if anyone sells the cable for a reasonable price, but chances are high > I'll end up ma

Re: [M100] Questions regarding Full Null Modem Cables, specif Serial to USB

2017-04-27 Thread Mike Stein
- From: Paul Bucalo To: m100@lists.bitchin100.com Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 6:54 PM Subject: Re: [M100] Questions regarding Full Null Modem Cables, specif Serial to USB I was going to bring it up. Before I posted I saw a reference online to using PuTTY. I'll try all the ter

Re: [M100] Questions regarding Full Null Modem Cables, specif Serial to USB

2017-04-27 Thread Paul Bucalo
more work. Thanks, Alex. -Original Message- From: Alex ... To: Model 100 Discussion Sent: Thu, Apr 27, 2017 5:45 pm Subject: Re: [M100] Questions regarding Full Null Modem Cables, specif Serial to USB The Linux version of PuTTY works nicely with serial ports. On Apr 27, 2017 17

Re: [M100] Questions regarding Full Null Modem Cables, specif Serial to USB

2017-04-27 Thread Paul Bucalo
time being. :) -Original Message- From: Jonathan Yuen To: Model 100 Discussion Sent: Thu, Apr 27, 2017 2:07 pm Subject: Re: [M100] Questions regarding Full Null Modem Cables, specif Serial to USB Hello, Sorry, I thought you were using a real UART on the PC. Remember the 8250? I

Re: [M100] Questions regarding Full Null Modem Cables, specif Serial to USB

2017-04-27 Thread Alex ...
27;your' diagram really works. > > > > -Original Message- > From: Jonathan Yuen > To: Model 100 Discussion > Sent: Thu, Apr 27, 2017 2:23 pm > Subject: Re: [M100] Questions regarding Full Null Modem Cables, specif > Serial to USB > > Hello again, > &

Re: [M100] Questions regarding Full Null Modem Cables, specif Serial to USB

2017-04-27 Thread Paul Bucalo
u, Apr 27, 2017 2:23 pm Subject: Re: [M100] Questions regarding Full Null Modem Cables, specif Serial to USB Hello again, I found some notes and I hope it is the one I used: DB9 DB25 Rx 2 Tx 2 Tx 3 Rx 3 Dtr 4 Dsr 6 Gnd 5Gnd 7 Dsr 6 Dtr 20 Rts 7 Cts 5 Cts 8Rts

Re: [M100] Questions regarding Full Null Modem Cables, specif Serial to USB

2017-04-27 Thread Paul Bucalo
ickat: den 27 april 2017 19:23 Till: Model 100 Discussion Ämne: Re: [M100] Questions regarding Full Null Modem Cables, specif Serial to USB On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 10:10 AM, Paul Bucalo mailto:pm...@aol.com>> wrote: I was hoping for a rationale based on experience, i.e., USB works well or

Re: [M100] Questions regarding Full Null Modem Cables, specif Serial to USB

2017-04-27 Thread Paul Bucalo
al Message- From: Jonathan Yuen To: Model 100 Discussion Sent: Thu, Apr 27, 2017 2:07 pm Subject: Re: [M100] Questions regarding Full Null Modem Cables, specif Serial to USB Hello, Sorry, I thought you were using a real UART on the PC. Remember the 8250? I use USB to RS-232 adapters, and haven&#

Re: [M100] Questions regarding Full Null Modem Cables, specif Serial to USB

2017-04-27 Thread Jonathan Yuen
athan jonathan.y...@mykopat.slu.se Från: M100 [m100-boun...@lists.bitchin100.com] för Paul Bucalo [pm...@aol.com] Skickat: den 27 april 2017 19:48 Till: m100@lists.bitchin100.com Ämne: Re: [M100] Questions regarding Full Null Modem Cables, specif Serial to U

Re: [M100] Questions regarding Full Null Modem Cables, specif Serial to USB

2017-04-27 Thread Jonathan Yuen
: Model 100 Discussion Ämne: Re: [M100] Questions regarding Full Null Modem Cables, specif Serial to USB On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 10:10 AM, Paul Bucalo mailto:pm...@aol.com>> wrote: I was hoping for a rationale based on experience, i.e., USB works well or not at all. Doesn't really matter

Re: [M100] Questions regarding Full Null Modem Cables, specif Serial to USB

2017-04-27 Thread Paul Bucalo
Model 100 Discussion Sent: Thu, Apr 27, 2017 1:23 pm Subject: Re: [M100] Questions regarding Full Null Modem Cables, specif Serial to USB On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 10:10 AM, Paul Bucalo wrote: I was hoping for a rationale based on experience, i.e., USB works well or not at all. Doesn&

Re: [M100] Questions regarding Full Null Modem Cables, specif Serial to USB

2017-04-27 Thread Jonathan Yuen
ones. Jonathan jonathan.y...@mykopat.slu.se Från: M100 [m100-boun...@lists.bitchin100.com] för Paul Bucalo [pm...@aol.com] Skickat: den 27 april 2017 19:10 Till: m100@lists.bitchin100.com Ämne: Re: [M100] Questions regarding Full Null Modem Cables, specif Serial t

Re: [M100] Questions regarding Full Null Modem Cables, specif Serial to USB

2017-04-27 Thread John R. Hogerhuis
On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 10:10 AM, Paul Bucalo wrote: > I was hoping for a rationale based on experience, i.e., USB works well or > not at all. Doesn't really matter much. Most likely I will make up a new > cable using DB25-to-DB9. > > My favorite cable is the full-null belkin serial laplink cable

Re: [M100] Questions regarding Full Null Modem Cables, specif Serial to USB

2017-04-27 Thread Paul Bucalo
pat.slu.se Från: M100 [m100-boun...@lists.bitchin100.com] för Paul Bucalo [pm...@aol.com] Skickat: den 27 april 2017 15:17 Till: m100@lists.bitchin100.com Ämne: [M100] Questions regarding Full Null Modem Cables, specif Serial to USB I would like to use a spare PC workstation as a

Re: [M100] Questions regarding Full Null Modem Cables, specif Serial to USB

2017-04-27 Thread Jonathan Yuen
Paul Bucalo [pm...@aol.com] Skickat: den 27 april 2017 15:17 Till: m100@lists.bitchin100.com Ämne: [M100] Questions regarding Full Null Modem Cables,specif Serial to USB I would like to use a spare PC workstation as a repository for files and programs, to be accessed by a Model 100. I

[M100] Questions regarding Full Null Modem Cables, specif Serial to USB

2017-04-27 Thread Paul Bucalo
I would like to use a spare PC workstation as a repository for files and programs, to be accessed by a Model 100. I used to have a null modem cable I made up years ago. (Alas, that got thrown out in the last Great Hardware Purge.) I've read about the use of a null modem cable with a USB connecto