Re: $^E bug and perl 5.8.0

2003-11-20 Thread Tim Bunce
On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 11:49:14AM -0500, Dan Sugalski wrote: > > I think I'll take steps to make this less likely for Parrot, though I'm > not sure there's truly any good way to get around it anywhere but in the > actual application code. This issue has come on p5p before (a few years ago) and t

Fwd: $^E bug and perl 5.8.0

2003-11-19 Thread Richard Cook
Begin forwarded message: (For the porters: the bug is that this: % perl -le '$^E = -1728; print $^E+0 for 0,1' Should return this: -1728 -1728 But in some cases, returns this: -1728 22 Odd.) this is because perl's print writes to stdout, and that usually uses t

Re: $^E bug and perl 5.8.0

2003-11-19 Thread Rafael Garcia-Suarez
> Try this naive patch : > > --- mg.c.orig Wed Nov 19 16:41:47 2003 > +++ mg.c Wed Nov 19 16:44:14 2003 Now applied as #21743 to bleadperl. Considering the intricacies of the #ifdef forest in there, I left out refactoring with $! for now.

Re: $^E bug and perl 5.8.0

2003-11-19 Thread Rafael Garcia-Suarez
Dan Sugalski wrote: > > Given that on Unix systems $^E and $! are identical, and that $! is > directly tied to errno, this certainly isn't surprising. Anything that > afects errno (like, say, IO) may then affect $! and $^E identically.(And > $!/$^E non-indentically on systems where they're separat

Re: $^E bug and perl 5.8.0

2003-11-19 Thread Rafael Garcia-Suarez
Chris Nandor wrote: > > At 16:39 +0100 2003.11.19, Rafael Garcia-Suarez wrote: > >What does > > perl -le 'print $!=22' > >on your system ? > > 22. Hmm, weird -- on my Linux 2.2 it prints correctly "Invalid argument". I wanted to know what was this errno corresponding to. (but I can't reproduc

Re: $^E bug and perl 5.8.0

2003-11-19 Thread Rafael Garcia-Suarez
Chris Nandor wrote: > > (For the porters: the bug is that this: > > % perl -le '$^E = -1728; print $^E+0 for 0,1' > > Should return this: > > -1728 > -1728 > > But in some cases, returns this: > > -1728 > 22 > > Odd.) What does perl -le 'print $!=22' on

Re: $^E bug and perl 5.8.0

2003-11-19 Thread Dan Sugalski
On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Chris Nandor wrote: > However, the code above is broken anyway, as Dan might point out, since > $error_handler COULD contain syscalls, so I am modifying this particular > code to set $^E right before the return, and use a lexical var for the > other stuff. That fixes the imme

Re: $^E bug and perl 5.8.0

2003-11-19 Thread Chris Nandor
At 16:50 +0100 2003.11.19, Rafael Garcia-Suarez wrote: >Try this naive patch : > >--- mg.c.orig Wed Nov 19 16:41:47 2003 >+++ mg.c Wed Nov 19 16:44:14 2003 >@@ -623,8 +623,12 @@ Perl_magic_get(pTHX_ SV *sv, MAGIC *mg) > SetLastError(dwErr); >} > #else >-

Re: $^E bug and perl 5.8.0

2003-11-19 Thread Chris Nandor
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Re: $^E bug and perl 5.8.0

2003-11-19 Thread Dan Sugalski
On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Chris Nandor wrote: > At 10:59 -0500 2003.11.19, Dan Sugalski wrote: > >On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Chris Nandor wrote: > > > >> $ perl -le '$^E = -1728; print $^E+0 for 0,1; print $!+0 for 0,1' > >> -1728 > >> 22 > >> 22 > >> 22 > > > >Given that on Unix systems $^E and $! are ident

Re: $^E bug and perl 5.8.0

2003-11-19 Thread Chris Nandor
At 16:50 +0100 2003.11.19, Rafael Garcia-Suarez wrote: >Chris Nandor wrote: >> >> At 16:39 +0100 2003.11.19, Rafael Garcia-Suarez wrote: >> >What does >> >perl -le 'print $!=22' >> >on your system ? >> >> 22. > >Hmm, weird -- on my Linux 2.2 it prints correctly "Invalid argument". >I wanted to

Re: $^E bug and perl 5.8.0

2003-11-19 Thread Dan Sugalski
On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Rafael Garcia-Suarez wrote: > Dan Sugalski wrote: > > Basically you're using a variable that can be affected by external things > > in a way that pretty much guarantees that external things will be > > happening. That it changes isn't much of a surprise. ($!/$^E may get > > mo

Re: $^E bug and perl 5.8.0

2003-11-19 Thread Chris Nandor
At 10:59 -0500 2003.11.19, Dan Sugalski wrote: >On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Chris Nandor wrote: > >> $ perl -le '$^E = -1728; print $^E+0 for 0,1; print $!+0 for 0,1' >> -1728 >> 22 >> 22 >> 22 > >Given that on Unix systems $^E and $! are identical, and that $! is >directly tied to errno, this certainly i

Re: $^E bug and perl 5.8.0

2003-11-19 Thread Dan Sugalski
On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Chris Nandor wrote: > $ perl -le '$^E = -1728; print $^E+0 for 0,1; print $!+0 for 0,1' > -1728 > 22 > 22 > 22 Given that on Unix systems $^E and $! are identical, and that $! is directly tied to errno, this certainly isn't surprising. Anything that afects errno (like, say, I

Re: $^E bug and perl 5.8.0

2003-11-19 Thread Chris Nandor
At 16:39 +0100 2003.11.19, Rafael Garcia-Suarez wrote: >What does > perl -le 'print $!=22' >on your system ? 22. >Can you reproduce this bug with $! in place of $^E ? I tested, but neglected to mention. No, $! works fine (unless observing $^E already changed the value of $!): $ perl -le

Re: $^E bug and perl 5.8.0

2003-11-19 Thread Chris Nandor
(For the porters: the bug is that this: % perl -le '$^E = -1728; print $^E+0 for 0,1' Should return this: -1728 -1728 But in some cases, returns this: -1728 22 Odd.) At 1:05 -0800 2003.11.19, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >For what it's worth, I've been tr

Re: $^E bug and perl 5.8.0

2003-11-19 Thread Chris Nandor
At 9:51 + 2003.11.19, John Delacour wrote: >At 1:05 am -0800 19/11/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> For what it's worth, I've been trying out 5.8.2, and I get the same >> value for 5.8.1-RC3 and 5.8.1 final, both the same negative >> numbers. I am building with the same options as the Panther

Re: $^E bug and perl 5.8.0

2003-11-19 Thread John Delacour
At 1:05 am -0800 19/11/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For what it's worth, I've been trying out 5.8.2, and I get the same value for 5.8.1-RC3 and 5.8.1 final, both the same negative numbers. I am building with the same options as the Panther version (darwin-thread-multi-2level); are you? FWIW I

Re: $^E bug and perl 5.8.0

2003-11-19 Thread emoy
For what it's worth, I've been trying out 5.8.2, and I get the same value for 5.8.1-RC3 and 5.8.1 final, both the same negative numbers. I am building with the same options as the Panther version (darwin-thread-multi-2level); are you? -

$^E bug and perl 5.8.0

2003-11-18 Thread Chris Nandor
$ perl5.8.0 -le '$! = -1728; print $^E+0 for 0,1' -1728 22 This appears to be fixed in perl5.8.1, in the RC3 version that ships with Panther: $ perl5.8.1 -le '$! = -1728; print $^E+0 for 0,1' -1728 -1728 Bu in a perl 5.8.1 RC1 I built myself: $ perl5.8.1 -le '$! = -1728; p

Re: steps to install Perl 5.8.0

2003-07-13 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Sunday, July 13, 2003, at 01:04 PM, Paul Corr wrote: I used the default '/usr/local' installation base, not replacing Apple's install But that *does* replace part of Apple's install. Or rather, it installs 5.8.0 into the directory (/Library/Perl) where Apple's instal

Re: steps to install Perl 5.8.0

2003-07-13 Thread David R. Morrison
One more tip for you: since you now have an "externally installed" Perl 5.8.0 (from fink's point of view), you can notify fink about it by installing fink's system-perl580 package. (That might be only in the unstable tree at the moment, I'm not sure.) In any event, s

steps to install Perl 5.8.0

2003-07-13 Thread Paul Corr
e's install, despite my using their article's instructions. Feel free to comment, point out flaws, potential trouble spots, etc. Thanks in advance. Paul Installing 5.8.0 Preinstall system check: --- % date; sw_vers; Sun Jul 13 11:52:03 EDT 200

LWP HEAD still overwrites head (was Re: Installing 5.8.0)

2003-06-20 Thread Ken Williams
On Friday, June 20, 2003, at 12:02 PM, Ken Williams wrote: On Friday, June 20, 2003, at 07:36 AM, Robert Dalgleish wrote: It is fixed in the LWP installer. Robert, can you be more specific? I've looked through the source for the LWP Makefile.PL (which I guess is what you mean by "the LWP ins

Re: Installing 5.8.0

2003-06-20 Thread Ken Williams
On Friday, June 20, 2003, at 07:36 AM, Robert Dalgleish wrote: It is fixed in the LWP installer. Robert, can you be more specific? I've looked through the source for the LWP Makefile.PL (which I guess is what you mean by "the LWP installer") and I just don't see anything to handle it. It simp

Re: Installing 5.8.0

2003-06-20 Thread Robert Dalgleish
It is fixed in the LWP installer. On Thursday, June 19, 2003, at 05:42 PM, Robin wrote: On Friday, June 20, 2003, at 07:23 am, Ken Williams wrote: On Wednesday, June 18, 2003, at 03:54 PM, Robin wrote: On Wednesday, June 18, 2003, at 11:34 pm, David R. Morrison wrote: Has the problem with CP

Re: Installing 5.8.0

2003-06-19 Thread Robin
On Friday, June 20, 2003, at 07:23 am, Ken Williams wrote: On Wednesday, June 18, 2003, at 03:54 PM, Robin wrote: On Wednesday, June 18, 2003, at 11:34 pm, David R. Morrison wrote: Has the problem with CPAN overwriting /usr/bin/head with /usr/bin/HEAD been solved? yes I believe so, thought th

Re: Installing 5.8.0

2003-06-19 Thread Ken Williams
On Wednesday, June 18, 2003, at 03:54 PM, Robin wrote: On Wednesday, June 18, 2003, at 11:34 pm, David R. Morrison wrote: Has the problem with CPAN overwriting /usr/bin/head with /usr/bin/HEAD been solved? yes I believe so, thought this is one of the well documented problems I was referring to,

Re: Installing 5.8.0

2003-06-18 Thread Robin
On Wednesday, June 18, 2003, at 11:34 pm, David R. Morrison wrote: Robin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: upgrades, it belongs to you. Install perl via CPAN as shown also won't overwrite the perl used by the OSX system itself (perl5.6, kept in Has the problem with CPAN overwriting /usr/bin/head with /u

Re: Installing 5.8.0

2003-06-18 Thread Michael Maibaum
;> > >>>On Monday, June 16, 2003, at 10:54 PM, Lorin Rivers wrote: > >>> > >>>>What is the best, simplest, and easiest approach to having a rock > >>>>solid, reasonably "standard" perl setup? > >>>If you really and truly

Re: Installing 5.8.0

2003-06-18 Thread David R. Morrison
> know what is on your system because you install it - in the past I used > fink, which is actually a series of perl modules and started getting > problems after I upgraded perl coming from the modules installed by > fink unbeknowst to me. Just FYI, Fink finally "plays well"

Re: Installing 5.8.0

2003-06-18 Thread Robin
On Tuesday, June 17, 2003, at 10:23 pm, Lorin Rivers wrote: What will happen if I use the darwinports perl? Does it automagically replace the existing perl in terms of the command line and what not? Or would I have to use "/opt/bin/perl" for 5.8.0 (and just "perl" for 5.6)

Re: Installing 5.8.0

2003-06-18 Thread Robin
having a rock solid, reasonably "standard" perl setup? If you really and truly need 5.8.0 - and there are some good reasons you might, such as improved Unicode support - your best bet would be to get it from darwinports. Dunno I used CPAN.pm and provided you follow the instructo

Re: Installing 5.8.0

2003-06-17 Thread Michael Maibaum
nt for a debugging perl, threads, > >anything else?) > > What will happen if I use the darwinports perl? Does it automagically > replace the existing perl in terms of the command line and what not? Or > would I have to use "/opt/bin/perl" for 5.8.0 (and just "perl&q

Re: Installing 5.8.0

2003-06-17 Thread Lorin Rivers
rms of the command line and what not? Or would I have to use "/opt/bin/perl" for 5.8.0 (and just "perl" for 5.6)? I'm asking all these questions because I have hosed my perl more than once out of ignorance (most people find installing and configuring perl a trivial tas

Re: Installing 5.8.0

2003-06-17 Thread Michael Maibaum
gt; >>solid, reasonably "standard" perl setup? > >If you really and truly need 5.8.0 - and there are some good reasons > >you might, such as improved Unicode support - your best bet would be > >to get it from darwinports. > > Dunno I used CPAN.pm and provided y

Re: Installing 5.8.0

2003-06-17 Thread Robin
On Tuesday, June 17, 2003, at 12:24 pm, Sherm Pendley wrote: On Monday, June 16, 2003, at 10:54 PM, Lorin Rivers wrote: What is the best, simplest, and easiest approach to having a rock solid, reasonably "standard" perl setup? If you really and truly need 5.8.0 - and there are

Re: Installing 5.8.0

2003-06-16 Thread Sherm Pendley
of-the-box setup for every shipping version of OS X so far is about as "standard" as it gets, and it's pre-installed, so if 5.6.0 is sufficient for your needs, then you already have a solid, standard setup for literally no effort at all. If you really and truly need 5.8.0 - and th

Installing 5.8.0

2003-06-16 Thread Lorin Rivers
I have gotten into a situation where I had to reinstall Mac OS X from scratch (bad drive, months of ignorant marketeer meddling). I have the standard Mac OS X 10.2 install. I don't use fink, I do use darwinports. What is the best, simplest, and easiest approach to having a rock solid, reasonab

Re: 5.8.0 on 10.2.4?

2003-03-23 Thread Salvatore Denaro
On Friday, March 21, 2003, at 11:44 PM, Salvatore Denaro wrote: I tried to build 5.8 from the instructions on: http://developer.apple.com/internet/macosx/perl.html Just a quick thank you to the folks on the list that sent me email pointing out the 5.8 package on aaron faby's site, as well as the

5.8.0 on 10.2.4?

2003-03-21 Thread Salvatore Denaro
dynamiclib -compatibility_version 5.8.0 -current_version 5.8.0 -install_name /System/Library/Perl/darwin/CORE/libperl.dylib perl.o gv.o toke.o perly.o op.o regcomp.o dump.o util.o mg.o reentr.o hv.o av.o run.o

Re: 5.8.0 binary incompatibility

2003-03-21 Thread Marcel GrĂ¼nauer
esn't have anything to do with bioperl, but it might be of use to people running 5.8.0 and fink (which relies on 5.6.0). Marcel

5.8.0 binary incompatibility

2003-03-21 Thread Christopher Lewis
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I am aware that Perl 5.8.0 is not binary compatible with previous versions of Perl; however, I am having a hard time determining exactly what I need to change/remove to satisfy this incompatibility. I was originally getting an error when attempting

Re: Concurrent perl 5.6.0, 5.6.1, 5.8.0, and 5.8.0threaded

2003-03-14 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Friday, March 14, 2003, at 12:22 AM, Ken Williams wrote: Does anyone have comments on the above scheme? No, it's quite similar to what I have - although I rely less on Fink and compile 5.8.0 myself, it's pretty much the same end result. One minor addition I've made, though,

Concurrent perl 5.6.0, 5.6.1, 5.8.0, and 5.8.0threaded

2003-03-13 Thread Ken Williams
ary/Perl * /sw/bin/perl5.8.0 - fink-installed 'perl5.8' package, @INC is: /sw/lib/perl5/5.8.0/darwin /sw/lib/perl5/5.8.0 /sw/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.0/darwin /sw/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.0 /sw/lib/perl5/site_perl/darwin /sw/lib/perl5/site_perl * /sw/bin/perl5.8.0thread

Re: CPAN newbie question - tries to download perl 5.8.0?

2003-03-08 Thread Robin
On Saturday, March 8, 2003, at 06:06 am, Christian Schneider wrote: Yes, but would installing perl 5.8 this way actually work? sort of - once you've downloaded and unpacked the .tar ball, you have to use the 'look' command to go through the installation as certain compile time stuff needs to be

Re: CPAN newbie question - tries to download perl 5.8.0?

2003-03-07 Thread Christian Schneider
s some modules, so I figured I'd use CPAN to go get them. So I fired up the cpan shell, answered all the initial questions (with the default answers). It suggested that I upgrade Bundle::libnet, so I took its advice and did so. As I was watching what it was doing, it started downloading

Re: CPAN newbie question - tries to download perl 5.8.0?

2003-03-07 Thread Charles Albrecht
et them. > >So I fired up the cpan shell, answered all the initial questions (with the default >answers). It suggested that I upgrade Bundle::libnet, so I took its advice and did >so. As I was watching what it was doing, it started downloading perl 5.8.0 The version of CPAN that Apple s

CPAN newbie question - tries to download perl 5.8.0?

2003-03-07 Thread Jim Correia
e initial questions (with the default answers). It suggested that I upgrade Bundle::libnet, so I took its advice and did so. As I was watching what it was doing, it started downloading perl 5.8.0 230 Anonymous access granted, restrictions apply. Remote system type is UNIX. Using binary mode

Re: dmg of perl 5.8.0 on Mac OS X

2003-03-01 Thread David H. Adler
On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 03:28:58PM -0600, Joe Davison wrote: > On Thu, 6 Feb 2003, Nathan Torkington wrote: > > A .pkg is specifically just a distribution of files to be installed > > using the Installer program. You can add pre- and post- actions to a > > package (which I should have done for

Linkage problems w/ perl-5.8.0 and Digest::SHA1

2003-03-01 Thread Claes Jacobsson
Hey, I'm trying to get Digest::SHA1 to work for me. When the module loads I get the following output. dyld: perl Undefined symbols: _PL_markstack_ptr _PL_stack_base _PL_stack_sp _PL_sv_yes _Perl_safefree _Perl_safemalloc _Perl_sv_2pv _perl_get_sv Trace/BPT trap Anyone else has had this problem?

Re: dmg of perl 5.8.0 on Mac OS X

2003-02-28 Thread Joe Davison
On Thu, 6 Feb 2003, Nathan Torkington wrote: > A .pkg is specifically just a distribution of files to be installed > using the Installer program. You can add pre- and post- actions to a > package (which I should have done for Perl--update your .cshrc to add > /usr/local/perl5-8 to the path).

Re: dmg of perl 5.8.0 on Mac OS X

2003-02-19 Thread Chris Nandor
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Puneet Kishor) wrote: > fwiw, I am using 10.2.3... I don't have wget. I could be wrong, but I > remember something to the effect that wget is not only deprecated in > favor of curl but also abolished. As usaul, I culd be wrong. wget was remove

Re: dmg of perl 5.8.0 on Mac OS X

2003-02-19 Thread Chris Nandor
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Nathan Torkington) wrote: > I'm not entirely sure. I think that a previous 5.8 install overwrote > some of the 5.5 library (doing a 'configure.gnu --prefix=/blah' still > made 5.8 install crap into /Library). hints/darwin.sh overrides the defau

Re: dmg of perl 5.8.0 on Mac OS X

2003-02-06 Thread Paul Corr
Nathan Torkington wrote: Are you running Jaguar? I'm on 10.2.3 and have /usr/bin/du too, not /sw/du, but it doesn't look like a problem. In fact, fink doesn't even list a du package. % which du /usr/bin/du % ls -al /sw/du ls: /sw/du: No such file or directory The fileutils package includes a

Re: Re: dmg of perl 5.8.0 on Mac OS X

2003-02-06 Thread John Adams
> Bruce Van Allen writes: > After all the comments about downloading and wget/curl > problems, I just wanted to let you know that, at least for one > person, it worked out of the box, er, dmg. I went you one better--after it installed it, I fired up CPAN and installed Class::DBI, along with its

Re: dmg of perl 5.8.0 on Mac OS X

2003-02-06 Thread Heather Madrone
At 4:55 PM + 2/6/03, Phil Dobbin wrote: >On 6/2/03 14:30, "Morbus Iff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>>> Please download and test the perl 5.8.0 distribution available from: >>>> http://nathan.torkington.com/tmp/perl5.8.0gnat1.dmg >>> >

Re: dmg of perl 5.8.0 on Mac OS X

2003-02-06 Thread Nathan Torkington
a page to let me know that someone successfully installed it :-) > Did notice the DB_File version is: > # /usr/local/perl5-8/Library/Perl/5.8.0/darwin/DB_File.pm > # last modified 22nd October 2002 > # version 1.806 > > Typo in your announcement? Yes, braino on my part. Good catch! Thanks, Nat

Re: dmg of perl 5.8.0 on Mac OS X

2003-02-06 Thread Nathan Torkington
Puneet Kishor writes: > On a related note -- Nat, please, if you could summarize how fink > trashed your system so much that you had to reinstall... that might be > as great a help as creating a perl dmg. Fink makes a very big issue of > how it protects your system by installing under /sw, and r

Re: dmg of perl 5.8.0 on Mac OS X

2003-02-06 Thread Nathan Torkington
hadn't told Apache that the content-type for .dmg files is application/octet-stream. This should now force a download in your browser. > > With the help of Fink, I managed to totally trash my system. I > > reinstalled yesterday, and went through the hassle of building Perl >

Re: dmg of perl 5.8.0 on Mac OS X

2003-02-06 Thread gregor420
orbus Iff; Mac OS X Perl Subject: Re: dmg of perl 5.8.0 on Mac OS X Auto forwarded by a Rule On 6/2/03 16:58, "Morbus Iff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I tried `curl http://nathan.torkington.com/tmp/perl5.8.0gnat1.dmg' And got the same binary text d/l (and had to crash `termi

Re: dmg of perl 5.8.0 on Mac OS X

2003-02-06 Thread Michael Maibaum
On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 01:55:42PM +, Phil Dobbin wrote: > On 6/2/03 1:03, "Nathan Torkington" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Please download and test the perl 5.8.0 distribution available from: > > http://nathan.torkington.com/tmp/perl5.8.0gnat1.dmg >

Re: dmg of perl 5.8.0 on Mac OS X

2003-02-06 Thread Phil Dobbin
On 6/2/03 16:58, "Morbus Iff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I tried `curl http://nathan.torkington.com/tmp/perl5.8.0gnat1.dmg' >> And got the same binary text d/l (and had to crash `terminal' to stop it :-( > > Curl, by default, will spit to STDOUT (ie. your Terminal) not to a file. > I'm not in

Re: dmg of perl 5.8.0 on Mac OS X

2003-02-06 Thread Bruce Van Allen
came out, but decided to wait on messing with Perl, even though I'd been running 5.6.1 pre-jag. This week I had just replaced my system Perl with 5.6.1 when you posted this. So now I have both 'good' versions of Perl available. For now 5.8.0 is just for fun and my own local tools

Re: dmg of perl 5.8.0 on Mac OS X

2003-02-06 Thread pkeidesis
Phil Dobbin wrote: On 6/2/03 14:30, "Morbus Iff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Please download and test the perl 5.8.0 distribution available from: http://nathan.torkington.com/tmp/perl5.8.0gnat1.dmg I get a text transfer of the binary when trying to d/l this in Mozilla, IE and

Re: dmg of perl 5.8.0 on Mac OS X

2003-02-06 Thread Morbus Iff
>I tried `curl http://nathan.torkington.com/tmp/perl5.8.0gnat1.dmg' >And got the same binary text d/l (and had to crash `terminal' to stop it :-( Curl, by default, will spit to STDOUT (ie. your Terminal) not to a file. I'm not in front of a OS X box right now, but I believe you've got to do: cu

Re: dmg of perl 5.8.0 on Mac OS X

2003-02-06 Thread Phil Dobbin
On 6/2/03 14:30, "Morbus Iff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Please download and test the perl 5.8.0 distribution available from: >>> http://nathan.torkington.com/tmp/perl5.8.0gnat1.dmg >> >> I get a text transfer of the binary when trying to d/l

Re: dmg of perl 5.8.0 on Mac OS X

2003-02-06 Thread Puneet Kishor
On Thursday, February 6, 2003, at 09:37 AM, Drew Taylor wrote: At 09:36 PM 2/5/03 -0800, Michael Maibaum wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday, February 5, 2003, at 08:37 PM, Chris Nandor wrote: Now, who is going to do a dmg of Apache / mod_perl / libapreq? :-)

Re: dmg of perl 5.8.0 on Mac OS X

2003-02-06 Thread Nathan Torkington
Drew Taylor writes: > Perhaps this is a stupid question, but could someone explain the difference > between a disk image (dmg) and a package (pkg)? I know the dmg "mounts" a > virtual drive, but other than that which is better? A .dmg is a file containing a filesystem, kinda like a .iso for CD-R

Re: dmg of perl 5.8.0 on Mac OS X

2003-02-06 Thread Michael Maibaum
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday, February 6, 2003, at 07:37 AM, Drew Taylor wrote: At 09:36 PM 2/5/03 -0800, Michael Maibaum wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday, February 5, 2003, at 08:37 PM, Chris Nandor wrote: Now, who is going to

Re: dmg of perl 5.8.0 on Mac OS X

2003-02-06 Thread Drew Taylor
At 09:36 PM 2/5/03 -0800, Michael Maibaum wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday, February 5, 2003, at 08:37 PM, Chris Nandor wrote: Now, who is going to do a dmg of Apache / mod_perl / libapreq? :-) We'll be providing .pkg and .mpkgs shortly, and the packages tha

Re: dmg of perl 5.8.0 on Mac OS X

2003-02-06 Thread Puneet Kishor
On Thursday, February 6, 2003, at 08:55 AM, Phil Dobbin wrote: On 6/2/03 14:30, "Morbus Iff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Please download and test the perl 5.8.0 distribution available from: http://nathan.torkington.com/tmp/perl5.8.0gnat1.dmg I get a text transfer of the bi

Re: dmg of perl 5.8.0 on Mac OS X

2003-02-06 Thread Morbus Iff
>> wget http://nathan.torkington.com/tmp/perl5.8.0gnat1.dmg > >I'm still using 10.1.5: > >bash2.05 phil@localhost ~ $ whereis wget >bash2.05 phil@localhost ~ $ whereis curl >/usr/bin/curl Aaah, yeah, I forgot all about that. I hate how they replaced wget with curl - drives me absolutely batty, as

Re: dmg of perl 5.8.0 on Mac OS X

2003-02-06 Thread Phil Dobbin
On 6/2/03 14:30, "Morbus Iff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Please download and test the perl 5.8.0 distribution available from: >>> http://nathan.torkington.com/tmp/perl5.8.0gnat1.dmg >> >> I get a text transfer of the binary when trying to d/l

Re: dmg of perl 5.8.0 on Mac OS X

2003-02-06 Thread Morbus Iff
>> Please download and test the perl 5.8.0 distribution available from: >> http://nathan.torkington.com/tmp/perl5.8.0gnat1.dmg > >I get a text transfer of the binary when trying to d/l this in Mozilla, IE >and Omni Web instead of the disk image. This is the first time this has

Re: dmg of perl 5.8.0 on Mac OS X

2003-02-06 Thread Phil Dobbin
On 6/2/03 1:03, "Nathan Torkington" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Please download and test the perl 5.8.0 distribution available from: > http://nathan.torkington.com/tmp/perl5.8.0gnat1.dmg [...] I get a text transfer of the binary when trying to d/l this in Mozilla, IE a

Re: dmg of perl 5.8.0 on Mac OS X

2003-02-05 Thread Michael Maibaum
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday, February 5, 2003, at 08:37 PM, Chris Nandor wrote: In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Nathan Torkington) wrote: Please download and test the perl 5.8.0 distribution available from: http://nathan.torkington.c

Re: dmg of perl 5.8.0 on Mac OS X

2003-02-05 Thread Chris Nandor
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Nathan Torkington) wrote: > Please download and test the perl 5.8.0 distribution available from: > http://nathan.torkington.com/tmp/perl5.8.0gnat1.dmg > > It installs Perl, Berkeley DB 4.1.25, DB_File 1.42 and Time::HiRe

Re: dmg of perl 5.8.0 on Mac OS X

2003-02-05 Thread Paul McCann
On Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at 06:03:32PM -0700, Nathan Torkington wrote: > Please download and test the perl 5.8.0 distribution available from: > http://nathan.torkington.com/tmp/perl5.8.0gnat1.dmg Done, and much appreciated. (The machine on which I have just installed your dmg was giving all

dmg of perl 5.8.0 on Mac OS X

2003-02-05 Thread Nathan Torkington
Please download and test the perl 5.8.0 distribution available from: http://nathan.torkington.com/tmp/perl5.8.0gnat1.dmg It installs Perl, Berkeley DB 4.1.25, DB_File 1.42 and Time::HiRes 1.42 into /usr/local/perl5-8. You'll need to add /usr/local/perl5-8/bin to your path, probably in

5.8.0 trouble, as always.

2003-01-28 Thread David Wood
I'm trying to compile 5.8.0 yet again, and I got what looks like a serious deviation from the norm described on developer.apple.com. From the end of my make: Failed 2 test scripts out of 657, 99.70% okay. ### Since not all tests were successful, you may want to run some of ### them individ

Re: Psync and Perl 5.8.0.

2003-01-27 Thread Dan Kogai
On Monday, January 27, 2003, at 01:14 PM, J. Charles Holt wrote: Any idea what the trouble might be? Any thoughts would be appreciated! [snip] In file included from Catalog.xs:16: ../common/util.c:9:19: Files.h: No such file or directory Do you have Developer Tool installed? It appears t

Oracle OCI problems [Re: CPAN Failure after install of 5.8.0]

2003-01-19 Thread Alan Sill
Hi, Tried similar things, with similar results. I followed all of the instructions in http://developer.apple.com/internet/macosx/perl.html and finally got things to the point that perl -v would return 5.8.0 and all seemed well. Ran the CPAN shell and updated itself (CPAN) successfully, and

Re: More 5.8.0 / Jaguar / Fink madness

2003-01-14 Thread Rich & Michaela
I don't believe that hobbyist segment is that large. I suspect most users approach from Classic or from UNIX, where the two approaches I described would fit. For those that do fit the hobbyist category - take the gloves off and dig in that's the best way to learn it. BTW I didn't believe your resp

Re: More 5.8.0 / Jaguar / Fink madness

2003-01-14 Thread Erik Price
On Tuesday, January 14, 2003, at 06:11 PM, Ken Williams wrote: Thanks, that's indeed what I was thinking of. I guess I put it out of my mind because it's written mostly in Tcl. ;-) }shudder{ -- Erik Price email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: CPAN Failure after install of 5.8.0

2003-01-14 Thread David Wood
et warnings about missing symbols, you probably have an old version of Perl (or parts of one) in /Library/Perl. These undefined symbols existed in pre-5.8.0 versions. For more information on this issue, check out perldelta. with a link to: http://dev.perl.org/perl5/news/2002/07/18/580ann/ pe

Re: More 5.8.0 / Jaguar / Fink madness

2003-01-14 Thread Ken Williams
On Tuesday, January 14, 2003, at 04:54 PM, Puneet Kishor wrote: Ken Williams wrote: Apparently Apple is working on their own package management system, informed by both the BSD ports and Fink. Can't exactly remember where I heard this, but maybe someone can substantiate and/or provide som

Re: More 5.8.0 / Jaguar / Fink madness

2003-01-14 Thread Puneet Kishor
ll use it. Same goes for Perl 5.8.0. Apparently Apple is working on their own package management system, informed by both the BSD ports and Fink. Can't exactly remember where I heard this, but maybe someone can substantiate and/or provide some references on Apple's web site. see http

Re: More 5.8.0 / Jaguar / Fink madness

2003-01-14 Thread Ken Williams
On Tuesday, January 14, 2003, at 03:21 PM, Puneet Kishor wrote: Thank you, Daniel, for speaking up for the "rest of us" who use the computer for the "rest of us". Fink is good, and needed, and when it gets better (and/or endorsed by Apple), I too will use it. Same

Re: More 5.8.0 / Jaguar / Fink madness

2003-01-14 Thread Puneet Kishor
Thank you, Daniel, for speaking up for the "rest of us" who use the computer for the "rest of us". Fink is good, and needed, and when it gets better (and/or endorsed by Apple), I too will use it. Same goes for Perl 5.8.0. In the meantime, kudos and all strength to the Fin

Re: More 5.8.0 / Jaguar / Fink madness

2003-01-14 Thread Daniel Stillwaggon
On Monday, Jan 13, 2003, at 17:52 US/Pacific, Rich & Michaela wrote: OK we're still seriously OT on this thread now, but here's my 2 cents. I guess I still don't get it (Fink). If you have modest admin skills you can figure out dependencies and pre-reqs. I've yet to run into any dependency

Re: CPAN Failure after install of 5.8.0

2003-01-14 Thread Robin
6 PM, Chad A. Clark wrote: On 1/13/03 2:39 PM, in article [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Kime H. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: After doing a fresh install of Perl 5.8.0 following the directions on developer.apple.com ( <http://developer.apple.com/internet/macosx/perl.html>) I ran in

Re: More 5.8.0 / Jaguar / Fink madness

2003-01-13 Thread Rich & Michaela
OK we're still seriously OT on this thread now, but here's my 2 cents. I guess I still don't get it (Fink). If you have modest admin skills you can figure out dependencies and pre-reqs. I've yet to run into any dependency issues (at least any that weren't addressed in README or INSTALL files). I di

Re: CPAN Failure after install of 5.8.0

2003-01-13 Thread Kime H. Smith, Jr.
PM, in article [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Kime H. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: After doing a fresh install of Perl 5.8.0 following the directions on developer.apple.com ( <http://developer.apple.com/internet/macosx/perl.html>) I ran into the following at the end of the CPAN c

Re: CPAN Failure after install of 5.8.0

2003-01-13 Thread Morbus Iff
gt; Trace/BPT trap As per the article, under the "Preparation" portion: If, after the installation, you get warnings about missing symbols, you probably have an old version of Perl (or parts of one) in /Library/Perl. These undefined symbols existed in pre-5.8.0 versions. For more infor

CPAN Failure after install of 5.8.0

2003-01-13 Thread Kime H. Smith, Jr.
After doing a fresh install of Perl 5.8.0 following the directions on developer.apple.com ( <http://developer.apple.com/internet/macosx/perl.html>) I ran into the following at the end of the CPAN config. I'm using Jaguar 10.2.3 Server on an Xserve. khsmith% sudo perl -MCPAN -e

Re: More 5.8.0 / Jaguar / Fink madness

2003-01-13 Thread Morbus Iff
>What would the syntax be for this in bash? See my article : echo "export LC_ALL=C" >> ~/.bash_profile -- Morbus Iff ( i'm the droid you're looking for ) Culture: http://www.disobey.com/ and http://www.gamegrene.com/ Please Me: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/wishlist/25USVJDH68554 icq: 292

Re: More 5.8.0 / Jaguar / Fink madness

2003-01-13 Thread Pete Prodoehl
What would the syntax be for this in bash? Pete Ray Zimmerman wrote: setenv LC_ALL C (put the above line in .cshrc and restart Terminal)

Re: More 5.8.0 / Jaguar / Fink madness

2003-01-13 Thread Steve Linberg
> is done in ~/build. > > > Perl > > > setenv LC_ALL C > (put the above line in .cshrc and restart Terminal) > cd ~/build > tar zxvf ../dist/perl-5.8.0.tar.gz > cd perl-5.8.0 > ./Configure -de -Dprefix=/usr/local/perl-5.8.0 \ > [EMAIL PROTEC

Re: More 5.8.0 / Jaguar / Fink madness

2003-01-13 Thread Ray Zimmerman
is done in ~/build. Perl setenv LC_ALL C (put the above line in .cshrc and restart Terminal) cd ~/build tar zxvf ../dist/perl-5.8.0.tar.gz cd perl-5.8.0 ./Configure -de -Dprefix=/usr/local/perl-5.8.0 \ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] make make test sudo make install Fink --

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