Re: My profuse apology to the list.

2015-10-04 Thread Shawn Krasniuk
Yes. Much better. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 4, 2015, at 8:25 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland > wrote: > > Shawn, > > I know what the problem was with my e-mail. It's been fixed. Does this look > better? > > Chris. > > - Original Message - > From: Shawn

Re: My profuse apology to the list.

2015-10-04 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
That would be Windows for ya. I tried setting my display to high contrast. Even though it's white text on a black background, Outlook insists that it needs to send the message black on black no matter what setting I change. Just another reason I love my mac over an unstable PC. LOL! If you

Re: Bugs in El Capitin.

2015-10-04 Thread David Chittenden
Not only do they read the reports, each report from a different individual communicates the importance of the particular difficulty. Yes, they do keep track. Also, having worked in the industry, I know that there are often factors of which we are not aware, that influence what may be done.

cannot restart into windows

2015-10-04 Thread Juan Hernandez
Hi All, I just upgraded my macbook pro from os x 10.10 to 10.11. I now cannot restart from the system prefs --> startup drive - bootcamp selector. When I interact with the radio button controls of bootcamp or the mac os x drive, they are dimmed. Has anyone seen this issue? If yes can this

Re: cannot restart into windows

2015-10-04 Thread Nicolai Svendsen
Hi! Have you actually made sure to unlock your system preferences by choosing the "Click lock to make changes" button? If not, that usually causes them to be dimmed. First thing that came to mind. Nicolai > On Oct 4, 2015, at 9:56 PM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote: > > Have you

Re: cannot restart into windows

2015-10-04 Thread Nicolai Svendsen
Hi Sometimes, you're required to unlock with a password to change preferences. It's always been there, but I can't remember if it used to be required in that category previously. Nicolai > On Oct 4, 2015, at 10:09 PM, Juan Hernandez wrote: > > That is where I am

Re: El Capitan Is Here

2015-10-04 Thread Shawn Krasniuk
Hi Alex. I just read your blog post about the bugs in El Capitan and I found your post about the character counter bug in the Twitter share menu. I don't know if this really is a bug or not but if it is, try interacting with that character counter. For me when I interact with it it shows the

Re: Updating a brailliant display if you don't have a PC

2015-10-04 Thread Sadam Ahmed
The short answer is no. A PC is required. Yours truly, Sadam Ahmed Sent from my iPhone -- > On 5 Oct 2015, at 12:57 PM, Mary Otten wrote: > > The subject line says it all. Is this possible? Must you have a PC in order > to update this display? > Mary > > Sent

Re: Updating a brailliant display if you don't have a PC

2015-10-04 Thread Sadam Ahmed
No. A PC is required. Yours truly, Sadam Ahmed Sent from my iPhone -- > On 5 Oct 2015, at 12:57 PM, Mary Otten wrote: > > The subject line says it all. Is this possible? Must you have a PC in order > to update this display? > Mary > > Sent from my iPhone > >

Re: Making a bulleted list in the newly updated notes app on an eye device

2015-10-04 Thread David Chittenden
Yes it is possible. I have done so on my iPhone. I have not yet done so on my iPad. On the iPhone, double-tap on the show toolbar and then double-tap on create checklist. I suspect the procedure is similar, if not identical, on the iPad. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email:

Re: cannot restart into windows

2015-10-04 Thread Shawn Krasniuk
Have you tried selecting the startup drive in System Preferences and not in Bootcamp preferences? Shawn Sent From My White MacBook Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs Skype username: bbstheblindrapper Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com > On Oct 4, 2015, at 8:50 PM, Juan

Updating a brailliant display if you don't have a PC

2015-10-04 Thread Mary Otten
The subject line says it all. Is this possible? Must you have a PC in order to update this display? Mary Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,

RE: cannot restart into windows

2015-10-04 Thread Juan Hernandez
That is where I am at. System preferences -> startup drive -> select startup drive. I am going to try the lock/unlock thing. I didn’t see that. Is that a new os x 10.11 feature? That wasn’t there on 10.10 before. Best, From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com

Making a bulleted list in the newly updated notes app on an eye device

2015-10-04 Thread Mary Otten
For those of you on more than one list to which this is being sent, I do apologize for the cross posting. However, since this newly updated notes app is so new, I did want to get the input from all possible people who might actually have done this. Is it possible to make a bulleted list in the

Re: El Capitan Is Here

2015-10-04 Thread Alex Hall
Thank you, I'd never tried that. I tried looking for hints for everything, tabbing, and everything else, but I missed this one. I'll update our bug list with this new info. > On Oct 4, 2015, at 22:44, Shawn Krasniuk wrote: > > Hi Alex. I just read your blog post about the

Re: cannot restart into windows

2015-10-04 Thread Eileen Misrahi
Hello, I’m running Yosemite 10.10.5 and when I go to switch startup disks from the system preferences, such as to bootcamp or my external drive, I’m alerted to insert my user ID and password for the admin account. So, now I have gotten into the habit to unlock first by going to the bottom of

Re: My profuse apology to the list.

2015-10-04 Thread Ray Foret Jr
Accepted, at least from me. Still and all, you brought up issues which I believe merit serious consideration. As I indicated to you this morning, I believe, based on your description of your problems, that you may yet have extremely serious hardware issues which would more than justify your

Re: adium versions?

2015-10-04 Thread Shawn Krasniuk
If you're wanting to connect to Facebook, short answer is neither. Adium no longer supports Facebook, and according to a friend of mine that has used it for years, they no longer support Facebook through the Jabber protocol. If you want a client for Facebook, my recommendation is Trillian.

Re: Major setbacks with El Capitan

2015-10-04 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
So, now, I have even a more concerning issue. This went from me being annoyed to now me being majorly pissed off! I booted to the backup image I have of Yosemite, and reimaged it back over to my internal drive. That took what seemed like an eternity! Finally, it finnished. Once it did

Re: Awful Mail Bug in El Capitan

2015-10-04 Thread Dionipher Presas Herrera
here's is the solution, delete all the messages on you trash. that did solve my problem on yosemite and maybe here in el capitan too. > On 04 Oct 2015, at 11:31 AM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote: > > It’s not really clear to me either. Prior versions of Mail.app didn’t do >

Re: Major setbacks with El Capitan

2015-10-04 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
I'm starting to wonder. I admittedly did finally! get the USB image to boot, but, pardon my language, god! damn! is it going slow! I finally did manage to completely wipe my internal macintosh HD while in the USB drive. I'm going to therefore try one final time to get OSX reinstalled. Let's

Re: Two Interesting Things That Occurred During My Installation of El Capitan

2015-10-04 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
That's normal. Voiceover isn't gonna speak by default when the installer is launched. It assumes by default you're sighted. Just hit command+F5, and you'll be well on your way... well... according to my! situation, all I can say is... let's hope! LOL! Chris. - Original Message -

What! a relief!

2015-10-04 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Shewww! I got Yosemite installed. I'm just finnishing up the setup assistant now. Wow that was a close call! See my previous thread on setbacks to El Capitan for more information on what happened. Chris. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

Re: Two Interesting Things That Occurred During My Installation of El Capitan

2015-10-04 Thread Dionipher Presas Herrera
about the sound from the mail on my mac, i hear sounds whenever i receive an email. > On 04 Oct 2015, at 12:59 PM, Craig Werner wrote: > > Thank you, Mark, for your compliments. Actually, the reboot I performed was > more of an act of desperation than it was calculated

Re: help with start up disk almost full

2015-10-04 Thread Dionipher Presas Herrera
thanks but i already figure out the problem.i i just have to delete the other partition that i accidentally created but i didn't see on disk utility. i have to to the partition go see that other disk. > On 03 Oct 2015, at 9:45 PM, Grant wrote: > > Installing OS X

Re: adium versions?

2015-10-04 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
You'll love! Trillion! It is literally the only instant messenger client, short of the Messages app, which I use with IMessage that I will touch! I used to be a really big fan of Adium. In some ways, I still am, but the time it takes to set up all your events manually by hand... It's so

Re: Major setbacks with El Capitan

2015-10-04 Thread Ray Foret Jr
Quite frankly, I reckon, based on your description of all that has befallen you, you've got some mighty major core systemic issues which can only be resolved by entirely replacing your computer. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and

Re: Two Interesting Things That Occurred During My Installation of El Capitan

2015-10-04 Thread Dionipher Presas Herrera
i installed my el capitan well because on the installation process voice over won't speak, you have to open voice over at the time of the installation. this is also hapen to me when i installed yosemite. > On 04 Oct 2015, at 8:14 AM, M. Taylor wrote: > > Hello Craig, > > As a

Re: Two Interesting Things That Occurred During My Installation of El Capitan

2015-10-04 Thread Craig Werner
Thank you, Mark, for your compliments. Actually, the reboot I performed was more of an act of desperation than it was calculated strategy, so I don't think the praise is entirely deserved, but I am appreciative of the encouragement because so often, over the past few months, I have considered

Re: Major setbacks with El Capitan

2015-10-04 Thread Devin Prater
Yep, I've seen the busy thing. Also, when I first start up the computer, things are pretty slow at first, like voiceover actually sees the Google Drive and dropbox windows, which have no content, as they launch. Alex, and the premium high, or enhanced, vocalizer voices are sluggish, very

Re: Reinstallation.

2015-10-04 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
OK, step the first is to download the thing from the MAS. Go to the Mac App Store, find the OS you want, and download. Once you have it, it will open automatically offering to install; quit the Installer. The next step is trickier. If someone has a graphical approach, post it now;

adium versions?

2015-10-04 Thread Singing Sparrow
what adium version should i try ? I have 1.5.10 or 1.5.11 or 1.6 or 1.7 Which should i try? the 1.5.10 is the stable build and the 1.5.11 b2 is a beta the 1.6 and 1.7 are nightly builds. Which version should i try? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

Re: Major setbacks with El Capitan

2015-10-04 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
I think we covered that already. Yes. All the tracks play fine on my production machine where it was initially ripped. Chris. - Original Message - From: Singing Sparrow To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 4, 2015 2:55 AM Subject: Re: Major setbacks

Re: Awful Mail Bug in El Capitan

2015-10-04 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
It’s not really clear to me either. Prior versions of Mail.app didn’t do that, but I’m fairly sure Yosemite was affected too. Other mail clients that are engineered to tolerate disconnection don’t have a problem because all the state is maintained locally. For now, my only suggestion for the

Re: My initial impression of El Capitan curious bugs or device specific

2015-10-04 Thread Dionipher Presas Herrera
the hot spot your talking is on the help menu on the voice over on general then hot sopt, it says to go to the next hot spot VO right bracket to go to previous hotspot VO left bracket. About safari i do have a lot of busy busy too since i am using late 2013 mac book pro i7 15 inches. > On 03

Re: adium versions?

2015-10-04 Thread Singing Sparrow
how good is trillian? and how hard is it to set up? On 10/4/2015 3:07 AM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote: If you're wanting to connect to Facebook, short answer is neither. Adium no longer supports Facebook, and according to a friend of mine that has used it for years, they no longer support Facebook

Re: Major setbacks with El Capitan

2015-10-04 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Well, this definitely has proven to be quite a nightmare! I finally! managed to get Yosemite reinstalling to a freshly partitioned/formatted internal drive. I'm really crossing my fingers here! Chris. - Original Message - From: Devin Prater To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com

RE: Two Interesting Things That Occurred During My Installation of El Capitan

2015-10-04 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Craig, As a new Mac user, you should be extremely proud of yourself. It takes a lot of guts to install a new OS, especially after so short of a time at the helm. Just think about it, both you and I came up with the exact same solution and I've been doing this for over 7 years; I don't

Re: Major setbacks with El Capitan

2015-10-04 Thread Singing Sparrow
are you sure the import went as it should? On 10/3/2015 9:43 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: OK. Let me start by saying one positive thing. El Capitan looks like it has the potential to be a great OS. This being said, I'm at a position where even on my personal computers, not just on my

RE: Major setbacks with El Capitan

2015-10-04 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Christopher, Thank you so much for providing such a comprehensive description of your reasons for returning to Yosemite. I cannot speak as to the problems you're experiencing in iTunes but the mail app is my most valued application in all of OS X. I have not encountered any problems

Re: Keychain on my I Mac.

2015-10-04 Thread Alex Hall
Keychain only needs that code once, unless you disable the feature later on. > On Oct 4, 2015, at 09:36, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: > > Hi All. > > I have had a night mare with my keychain for my Mac. > > Yesterday after installing El Capitan on the iMac, I screwed up my

Change language for the osx system on the mac.

2015-10-04 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi! How do i change the language in osx? I know i can go to system prefs and then i should go to language and region and in that dialog i can drag the prefered language to the top but how do i drag an item with voiceover? /A -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

Re: Change language for the osx system on the mac.

2015-10-04 Thread Alex Hall
I haven't tried this because I don't use other languages, but did you try command-up or command-down? If not, there's another way to drag that I have to use a lot in Xcode which may work here. Of course, the usual dragging method (vo-comma to drag, vo-period to drop) may work as well. > On Oct

Battery life improved under IOS 9

2015-10-04 Thread Phil Halton
I heard that battery life was substantially improved under IOS9. Today I used Blind Square, all features, under ios9 for an hour and was surprised to see the battery usage was only 12%. Normally, that hour would have drained off 20 - 30% under IOS8. Maybe I won’t be needing the Mophie juice

Re: finder annoyance

2015-10-04 Thread Donna Goodin
Hi Chris, I've cunhecked the option to open files in Tabs instead of windows in Finder Prefs, but that isn't doing it. I used to have my Mac set up so that files opened in separate Windows, but somehow it's gotten changed. I'd love to have it that way again. Is there something else I need

Apple Watch question re viewing activity info

2015-10-04 Thread Donna Goodin
Hi all, I am using the modular watch face on my Apple Watch, and have activity set to one of the complications on the screen. Prior to updating to 2.0, if I tapped on the activity complication, I saw a page that displayed a bunch of info: active minutes, calories burned, steps, miles, etc.

Re: Apple Watch question re viewing activity info

2015-10-04 Thread John Panarese
If I double tap on the activity, I still get a screen that allows me to review the activity. You might have to go to the page chooser or change the page with a two finger swipe left or right, to see specific details for each category, but it still works here. > On Oct 4, 2015, at 10:56 AM,

Re: Reinstallation.

2015-10-04 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi! Ok, just one more question. I have tried to download the el capitan but suddenly when the installer started i was asked to install mavericks? That was really odd because i have a file in my aplications folder named osx el capitan installer app store download program. Its only 306 kb so i

Re: finder annoyance

2015-10-04 Thread Chris Moore
Donna, Have you tried opening each folder in a separate window? If you do this you can navigate between the different folders with cmd accent. You can also close one window at a time with cmd w. Chris > On Oct 3, 2015, at 2:54 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: > > Hi Ann, > > I'm

Keychain on my I Mac.

2015-10-04 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
Hi All. I have had a night mare with my keychain for my Mac. Yesterday after installing El Capitan on the iMac, I screwed up my Keychain and today I had to wipe the disk and start over. Now however, I approved from my I phone 6 Plus S as I managed to remove the other phone from my trusted

Re: finder annoyance

2015-10-04 Thread Alex Hall
You can also leave folders as they are, but press cmd-n before navigating to a new one. This way you can, say, leave your external drive open in one window, then move from your downloads folder to your documents folder in another, copying files from both over to the external drive. > On Oct 4,

Re: Keychain on my I Mac.

2015-10-04 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
When I got the code, I did not put it in. And when I went to the iCloud preferences, it said key chain options. So am I to put the coding, if so, where? Sent from my iPhone > On 4 Oct 2015, at 2:43 p.m., Alex Hall wrote: > > Keychain only needs that code once, unless you

Re: Keychain on my I Mac.

2015-10-04 Thread Alex Hall
When you enable Keychain in iCloud, you'll be asked for the code. If you don't enter one, you should get a reminder later that "this Mac is waiting for a code to activate iCloud Keychain". If not, or if you missed it, just go back to iCloud Preferences and enable Keychain again, though that may

Re: Apple Watch question re viewing activity info

2015-10-04 Thread Donna Goodin
So do you still get the breakdown on the front page? I used to be able to see calories burned, number of active minutes, and number of steps all by doing a double tap on the home screen. Now more often than not, I do not get that information on the first page. Cheers, Donna > On Oct 4, 2015,

Re: finder annoyance

2015-10-04 Thread Donna Goodin
Yeah, but the only way that seems to work for me is to select all my files. It seems kind of unwieldy, but good to have as an option. As I said, I used to have my Mac set up to open each folder in a separate window. If there's a way, I'd love to go back to that. Cheers, Donna > On Oct 4,

Re: Using 3D touch with VoiceOver

2015-10-04 Thread Donna Goodin
Hey Scott, I finally had time to take a look at this. Very nice guide, thank you for taking the time to put it together, and for sharing it with us. Cheers, Donna > On Sep 28, 2015, at 1:52 PM, Scott Davert wrote: > > Hi all. > I developed both a guide and podcast on

Re: Apple Watch question re viewing activity info

2015-10-04 Thread Daniel Miller
Hi Dona, If you turn the pro it will scroll the screen, enabling you to see that info. I just tried it and it works perfectly in watchOS 2.0. > On Oct 4, 2015, at 12:43 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: > > So do you still get the breakdown on the front page? I used to be able to >

Bugs in El Capitin.

2015-10-04 Thread Sadam Ahmed
Hi to the list, Just wanted to let you guys know that I've reported some the bugs mentioned to Apple. Response is below. Here's hoping they get to these issues in the .1 release. Hello, Thank you for your email. We appreciate the feedback and will pass this on to the appropriate people

Re: Bugs in El Capitin.

2015-10-04 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
Just their standard response. > On 4 Oct 2015, at 20:11, Sadam Ahmed wrote: > > Hi to the list, > > Just wanted to let you guys know that I've reported some the bugs mentioned > to Apple. > > Response is below. > > Here's hoping they get to these issues in the .1

Re: Bugs in El Capitin.

2015-10-04 Thread Sadam Ahmed
Yes. Feels like an auto responder. Yours truly, Sadam Ahmed Sent from my iPhone -- > On 5 Oct 2015, at 7:00 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: > > Just their standard response. >> On 4 Oct 2015, at 20:11, Sadam Ahmed wrote: >> >> Hi to the list,

Re: adium versions?

2015-10-04 Thread Shawn Krasniuk
Not that hard at all. As Chris Gilland said, you'll need to create an account with Trillian before you can set up your accounts to work with it, but that's not hard since that's the first thing you see when you launch it, and no there's no captchas at all. After that, you can just set up your

Re: Bugs in El Capitin.

2015-10-04 Thread Jason White
E.T. wrote: >Which does not mean they are not going to actually read these emails. I > don't understand why people think that they are ignoring then. I expect they will read the reports; I've received a substantive reply in the past by contacting them via that

Re: Reinstallation.

2015-10-04 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
It sounds like you may have picked up Mavericks, yeah. Try again; go to the store and press Download after El Capitan. The App Store download is a partial download in your Applications folder until it’s finished. You can also go to the Purchases tab and look there to see how far it’s

Re: Bugs in El Capitin.

2015-10-04 Thread E.T.
Which does not mean they are not going to actually read these emails. I don't understand why people think that they are ignoring then. Its standard business practice...and a good one too. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the

Re: Reinstallation.

2015-10-04 Thread Shawn Krasniuk
I am happy to report that Disk Maker X works again. I just helped out a friend do a clean install of El Capitan the other night because her Mac kept freezing and crashing on her and we were able to use Disk Maker X successfully. So to those of you that don't want to use terminal because you're

Re: Reinstallation.

2015-10-04 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Shawn, I dono why, but when I tried using it the other night to do El Capitan, it gave me a message that the Apple event timed out, whatever that means. I tried about 4 times, and even used a few different flash drives, just in case one of them was either corrupted, or dammaged. Yes, they

Re: Apple Watch question re viewing activity info

2015-10-04 Thread Donna Goodin
Hey, that's cool! Clearly I need to start paying more attention to the crown then I do. Thanks, Daniel. Cheers, Donna Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 4, 2015, at 1:10 PM, Daniel Miller wrote: > > Hi Dona, > > If you turn the pro it will scroll the screen, enabling you to

Re: 10.11 and braille

2015-10-04 Thread E.T.
Sabahattin and others, The topic of braille support in OS X comes up occasionally but I have not seen a list of the shortcomings. Is there one? I have used my braille display mostly with iOS but am interested in putting it to work under OS X. Then I can add my voice to the clamor and let

Re: Curious if device specific as safari in El Capitan is unusable on many sites

2015-10-04 Thread Ray Foret Jr
Here's another which does not work for me: ecommerce.nfb.org you will get a certificate dialog but will not be able to go past it. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user! Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full

Re: My initial impression of El Capitan curious bugs or device specific

2015-10-04 Thread Gerard Doody
Hi all, I use the default apple mail to work with my email. I have noticed that when I interact with the messages column it drops me right onto the menu buttons, which it did not do before. I just updated to el capitan and it was a long ordeal. I am using a macbook pro 2011 vintage.

Curious if device specific as safari in El Capitan is unusable on many sites

2015-10-04 Thread Brian Fischler
After using El Capitan for a few days and having this issue I am thinking about rolling back. I am curious if others are having this issue when they go to websites with a lot of links that VO constantly crashes and resets itself over and over making the website basically unusable since VO will

Re: Curious if device specific as safari in El Capitan is unusable on many sites

2015-10-04 Thread John Panarese
I am not having any issues with these sites either. Maybe, try resetting Safari preferences or deleting your Safari .PLIST file from your user library, ~library/preferences folder. > On Oct 4, 2015, at 6:18 PM, ROBERT CARTER wrote: > > Hi, > > Also using El Capitan, I

Re: Curious if device specific as safari in El Capitan is unusable on many sites

2015-10-04 Thread Alex Hall
For what it's worth, I went to the site in the original post, pulled up the web rotor, and chose a link at random. I pressed enter, and was taken to the link, after which the site, and VO, continued working normally. I just did the same thing on Facebook, and had no problems either. I'm on a

Re: Curious if device specific as safari in El Capitan is unusable on many sites

2015-10-04 Thread Brian Fischler
Hey all, Thanks so much for the feedback and great to hear that it is device specific. Guess I will try what John suggested and if that does not work ugh clean install here we come. > On Oct 4, 2015, at 6:28 PM, Alex Hall wrote: > > For what it's worth, I went to the site

Re: 10.11 and braille

2015-10-04 Thread Blee Blat
I have a display but I may be hitting different bugs than others so I wouldn't mind a list either. I have noticed that cursor routing is useless because there is no separate braille cursor or braille doesn't follow the system cursor it just moves the voiceover cursor which isn't what should

My profuse apology to the list.

2015-10-04 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Hey there guys, it's Chris Gilland. Listen, I really would like to publicly address on list the way that I acted this morning with a few of my messages. Guys, I really really messed up and was quite childish in how I reacted. I was having major issues with my mac as you all know with

Re: 10.11 and braille

2015-10-04 Thread Scott Granados
I do agree, I think Apple Braille support should be much better and farther along than it is. As someone proposed, I wonder if there are no braille readers on the various development or testing teams. Hard to believe but what other excuse do they have? > On Oct 2, 2015, at 2:50 PM, Anders

Re: My initial impression of El Capitan curious bugs or device specific

2015-10-04 Thread Scott Granados
I have one to add to this list, When in the doc, let’s say I’m on mail and I type s to hit safari, when the cursor moves it says mail again and then says safari. So it duplicates with where you are to where you selected. Very small potatoes as a bug but a little annoying. > On Oct 3, 2015,

Re: Curious if device specific as safari in El Capitan is unusable on many sites

2015-10-04 Thread ROBERT CARTER
Hi, Also using El Capitan, I had no difficulty accessing the hockey site for which you provided a link. Robert Carter > On Oct 4, 2015, at 4:56 PM, Brian Fischler wrote: > > After using El Capitan for a few days and having this issue I am thinking > about rolling

Re: 10.11 and braille

2015-10-04 Thread Alex Hall
Indeed, I'd love to have more specifics about braille under OS X to pass along to the rest of the AppleVis team and to keep an eye on in future updates. I don't have a display I can test with right now, unfortunately. > On Oct 4, 2015, at 18:30, E.T. wrote: > >

Re: Apple Watch question re viewing activity info

2015-10-04 Thread Daniel Miller
You’re welcome. The crown is definitely more useful for VoiceOver users on watchOS 2 than it was in 1.0. > On Oct 4, 2015, at 5:30 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: > > Hey, that's cool! Clearly I need to start paying more attention to the crown > then I do. Thanks, Daniel. > Cheers,

Re: My profuse apology to the list.

2015-10-04 Thread Shawn Krasniuk
Hey Chris. Just so you know, in your emails, all I see with my very limited vision is black. Usually I can see enough to distinguish if there's any text in the email, but there wasn't. I can see the text but can't read it which is why I use Voiceover. Anyway there was no text at all, just black

Re: My profuse apology to the list.

2015-10-04 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Shawn, I know what the problem was with my e-mail. It's been fixed. Does this look better? Chris. - Original Message - From: Shawn Krasniuk To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2015 9:09 PM Subject: Re: My profuse apology to the list. Hey