Hi guys.
I love audio description as much as any blind person could. Before you couldn't
get them, I bought several movies on those tapes, movies I wanted to watch
again. However, and maybe I'm showing my age here, but I consider audio
description to be a luxury for us. I watched movies and TV
Hi. I have been reading through a lot of these and understand a lot of the
frustration that is out there. i know for myself it is very irritating that
ovens and microwaves are now all button oriented instead of knobs and I hate
that because I have to rely on a sighted person to put tape on th
Arguably, anything beyond the things required for daily living is a luxury.
Plenty of people do not have computers or TV's. I personally have found a
greater appreciation for movies and television shows when they are described,
and it is exceedingly frustrating when one cannot watch a foreign f
So true, so true!!!
That's why I commend Apple for their accessibility efforts and I hope the trend
could spread over other things. I like to think that maybe IOS apps could be
written more easily than building entire new tactile interfaces on appliances
but then again, I just got a Sony dock f
It's even worse than that. While we can use our accessible devices, we still
can't go to a humble Wallmart and shop independently; or, for that matter, the
local 7/11. We must be assisted when purchasing anything in a large store
prone to layout changes, robbing us of much of the credibility w
I'll have both. The government need not provide anything except a law mandating
availability. I think we should have sighted people only have access to audio
devices for one week, but with every other one of life's amenities to which
they are accustomed. After all, seeing action is a luxury. Let
In my opinion, accessible movies, TV shows, appliances, etc, should fall under
the ADA.
Not to be politically incorrect here, but if people in wheelchairs can get them
for free and most places are made to be accessible for them, and the deaf get
closed captioning for almost every TV show and
Hi Gigi,
interesting points, but are you not perhaps making a few assumptions. Well
meaning yes, but the very sort of assumptions that contribute to the
problem?
first, blindness is not a uniform experience for anyone. the suggestion
that *every* person within the technical range of 20/200 to
Hi,
Keep in mind, fair doesn't always mean equal. I'm sure if we looked hard
enough, we can find some services offered exclusively to those who are visually
impaired and or blind.
Ricardo Walker
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It's even worse than that. While we can use our accessible devices, we
still can't go to a humble Wallmart and shop independently; or, for that
matter, the lo
Well, In my humble opinion, equality isn't there, so that, isn't fair
treatment. the Americans with Disabilities Act should include the blind or
visually \impaired just as vigorously as it does every other disability in this
country.
there aren't any services, that I know of at this point, tha
Ricardo,
I can think of two.
There is a special category in all social security administration
payments specifically for the blind...but the way it is defined is not
especially positive.
granted there is the assumption that providing something in braille works
for everyone too, never mind les
I know there will be furious complaints that this was published here, but I
cannot thank you enough, Karen, for posting this. This made my night. Please
write to me off-list and tell me how I can write to this fine gentleman, and
tell me how on earth this is an article I have never seen before!
Hi Jenny, I'm glad I've been listening to this thread.
>From my experience on this, Here in the UK, though there is audio description
>to TV shows via new digital TV's, there still isn't a spoken user interface
>to allow access to various menus, same on DVD players, recorders, etc. I've
>not y
Hi all,
This is indeed an interesting discussion.
I come from a country where most visually impaired people are so accustomed to
being left out and neglected that they don't even find it worthwhile to discuss
these things.
India has the largest number of visually impaired/ blind people in the w
Hi,
I'm sorry for the misconceptions and inaccurate information about things for
the blind in the UK.
I know that I have heard, though, that in Australia, they give you the choice
of computers with accessible software, but I could be wrong about that too.
Here, you have to be in school or ha
on the thought of the muppet show, if anyone remembers the swedish chef? I
think that could be me lol. banana-nana-nanana split. lol
If the UK could really improve their support systems, we'd be in a better
place, HSE regulations changed or adapted, company insurance rules changed in
favour of
HI Lu,
I feel the same way.
thank you for voicing what I have and still felt and feel for a long time.
Jenny
On Apr 29, 2012, at 2:18 PM, Lewis Alexander wrote:
> on the thought of the muppet show, if anyone remembers the swedish chef? I
> think that could be me lol. banana-nana-nanana split
muppet moment or latter?
lol
you're very welcome.
Our voices need to be heard, therefore we are one voice... singing in the
darkness oops!
lew
On 29 Apr 2012, at 20:48, Jenny Keller wrote:
> HI Lu,
>
> I feel the same way.
>
> thank you for voicing what I have and still felt and feel
Lew
The UK has produced hundreds of audio described DVDs, and the number
showing up each year seems to be increasing. The AD track is another
option on the DVD, so you just buy a standard copy and choose the
second English audio track. I'd also say that the amount of audio
description provided in
At the risk of upsetting you Jenny, let me pose this question. If you do not
work for whatever reason, why do you need adaptive technology? In fact if you
cannot pay for your technology I get the impression that you feel the
"GOvernment" (state or Federal) should provide such. So, are you saying
Hello.
Please do not take what I'm about to say wrongly (I know I do not moderate the
list) but past experiences on many lists have shown me that people can get very
upset about these kind of issues (espically when we talk about getting
technology and how it should be acquired). It would be ve
All.
I would raise a different slant on the whole discussion. No one took this up
before in one of my prior posts. This is a concept and please treat it as an
idea. If people want to discuss this off line to see if it could be actually
adopted. Then please let me know. I am more then happy to d
sean, I agree with you on this idea. from an international standpoint, not just
from a US standpoint, a huge change could happen with this kind of process.
what this effectively would do is open doors to international programming
companies, developers, etc to engineer their software to blind and
Lawal, I know that is not your intent. You are right that the questions have
been discussed here in the past and my point is to get Jenny thinking about the
things that she is saying and understand they really do not fit into the
context of accessibility of the Mac. Although the only context is
Well,
Most things are not accessible without a computer, cell phone, etc. It is
easier and sometimes necessary for you to apply online for things.
I do feel that computers should be provided for those who qualify for them due
to income restrictions. Just because I don't work doesn't mean I
Neither will I.
Jenny
On Apr 30, 2012, at 9:06 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
> Lawal, I know that is not your intent. You are right that the questions have
> been discussed here in the past and my point is to get Jenny thinking about
> the things that she is saying and understand they really do not f
Hi,
This sounds like a very interesting concept and one much worth investigating
further, however, i want to put in my own 2 cents. I am not going to go into my
view of the whole access/disability situation, because it's so politically
incorrect and cynical that i don't think it will do good to
Hello Sean. This is a great idea and I would be interested in discussing it
further. I had thought that we could impose an accessibility tax to be levied
on everyone who buys a piece of electronic equipment. The money could be put
into a fund and grants be given to companies that agree to develo
I have been suggesting this for the last 10 years or so and it seems that no
one wants to talk about it. there are also the excuses that it is someone elses
problem, they are too broke, etc. I have suggested having a number of people
invest in a firm, assign a voting proxy and force the issue at
Perhaps Sean should be the point man and anyone interested should write him
off-list; we start a mailing list, start discussing this, then use social media
to go out there and do this thing. Sign me up.
On Apr 30, 2012, at 8:00 PM, Eric Oyen wrote:
> I have been suggesting this for the last 10 y
Hi Paul and Shawn.
Technically, there is already a tax credit for accessibility. I haven't looked
it up in some time since I retired in 2005, but this credit is extensive for
architectual barrier removal. I haven't researched it lately as I said, but it
could be amended, with all that entails,
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