Hi!
There are some important widgets which are deprecated without a
replacement in Fremantle. Those widgets are still available, but they
are not fully finger-friendly or don't look good.
Developers are expected to implement those widgets by them selfs which
could lead us to a situation where we
I personally think we're taking a wrong approach to the problem.
I am not developing for Apple because of their approval process and
their desire of control.
I don't want my application to go through an approval process to reach my users.
I think that the developer HAS the last work on whether
Thanks.
When i do the test it was an older version of the binding. The current
one available is more recent.
Best regards,
2009/9/24 Brent Chiodo bchi...@gmail.com:
Thanks for the information.
On 9/23/09, Bruno Araujo bruno.ara...@openbossa.org wrote:
Hi,
The reason I'm slightly
On Thu, September 24, 2009 11:19, Aniello Del Sorbo wrote:
Here's my proposal:
We leave Extras-Testing as it is, with votes, comments, bug reports an
so on (or improve it, as you wish). But then it's only the developer that
decides, based on that feedback, if or not to promote the
Niels Breet wrote:
On Thu, September 24, 2009 11:19, Aniello Del Sorbo wrote:
Here's my proposal:
We leave Extras-Testing as it is, with votes, comments, bug reports an
so on (or improve it, as you wish). But then it's only the developer that
decides, based on that feedback, if or not to
-Original Message-
From: maemo-developers-boun...@maemo.org
[mailto:maemo-developers-boun...@maemo.org] On Behalf Of ext
Aniello Del Sorbo
Sent: 24 September, 2009 12:20
To: Gil Quim (Nokia-D/Helsinki)
Cc: maemo-developers@maemo.org
Subject: Re: How to use extras-testing
I haven't got Neils e-mail yet.
But it looked like that the app gets promoted automatically or stay in
quarantine until it reaches enough votes.
If it stays in quarantine, I won't go for Extras Testing and I'll miss
an opportunity and I propose to remove this limitation.
If I have control of the
ext Aniello Del Sorbo wrote:
I am not developing for Apple because of their approval process and
their desire of control.
What is your opinion about Deboan, Ubuntu, Fedora... all of them having
also QA processes in place in order to make it to their stable releases?
I don't want my
2009/9/24 tero.k...@nokia.com:
-Original Message-
From: maemo-developers-boun...@maemo.org
[mailto:maemo-developers-boun...@maemo.org] On Behalf Of ext
Aniello Del Sorbo
Sent: 24 September, 2009 12:20
To: Gil Quim (Nokia-D/Helsinki)
Cc: maemo-developers@maemo.org
Subject: Re: How
-Original Message-
From: maemo-developers-boun...@maemo.org
[mailto:maemo-developers-boun...@maemo.org] On Behalf Of ext
Henrik Hedberg
Sent: 24 September, 2009 13:07
Cc: maemo-developers@maemo.org
Subject: Re: How to use extras-testing correctly?
Niels Breet wrote:
The
On Thu, September 24, 2009 12:07, Henrik Hedberg wrote:
Niels Breet wrote:
On Thu, September 24, 2009 11:19, Aniello Del Sorbo wrote:
Here's my proposal:
We leave Extras-Testing as it is, with votes, comments, bug reports
an so on (or improve it, as you wish). But then it's only the
2009/9/24 Quim Gil quim@nokia.com:
ext Aniello Del Sorbo wrote:
I am not developing for Apple because of their approval process and
their desire of control.
What is your opinion about Deboan, Ubuntu, Fedora... all of them having
also QA processes in place in order to make it to their
No wait...
The line is a bit blurry.
My proposal was based on the assumption that developers are working on
their application for the good of the whole Maemo community.
They have a moral duty of approving only good quality software and
Testing is a good tool to achieve that.
I don't want
On Thu, September 24, 2009 12:25, Aniello Del Sorbo wrote:
2009/9/24 tero.k...@nokia.com:
-Original Message-
From: maemo-developers-boun...@maemo.org
[mailto:maemo-developers-boun...@maemo.org] On Behalf Of ext
Aniello Del Sorbo
Sent: 24 September, 2009 12:20
To: Gil Quim
2009/9/24 Niels Breet ni...@maemo.org:
On Thu, September 24, 2009 12:07, Henrik Hedberg wrote:
Niels Breet wrote:
On Thu, September 24, 2009 11:19, Aniello Del Sorbo wrote:
Here's my proposal:
We leave Extras-Testing as it is, with votes, comments, bug reports
an so on (or improve it,
Am Donnerstag, den 24.09.2009, 11:48 +0100 schrieb Aniello Del Sorbo:
My only complaint is on who has the final word.
Again: It is the package maintainer, after his/her package has been
given 10 karma points by testers.
andre
--
Andre Klapper (maemo.org bugmaster)
2009/9/24 Niels Breet ni...@maemo.org:
On Thu, September 24, 2009 12:25, Aniello Del Sorbo wrote:
2009/9/24 tero.k...@nokia.com:
-Original Message-
From: maemo-developers-boun...@maemo.org
[mailto:maemo-developers-boun...@maemo.org] On Behalf Of ext
Aniello Del Sorbo
Sent: 24
On Sep 24, 2009, at 12:48, Aniello Del Sorbo wrote:
2009/9/24 Quim Gil quim@nokia.com:
ext Aniello Del Sorbo wrote:
I am not developing for Apple because of their approval process and
their desire of control.
What is your opinion about Deboan, Ubuntu, Fedora... all of them
having
2009/9/24 Jeremiah Foster jerem...@jeremiahfoster.com:
On Sep 24, 2009, at 12:48, Aniello Del Sorbo wrote:
2009/9/24 Quim Gil quim@nokia.com:
ext Aniello Del Sorbo wrote:
I am not developing for Apple because of their approval process and
their desire of control.
What is your
2009/9/24 Andre Klapper aklap...@openismus.com:
Am Donnerstag, den 24.09.2009, 11:48 +0100 schrieb Aniello Del Sorbo:
My only complaint is on who has the final word.
Again: It is the package maintainer, after his/her package has been
given 10 karma points by testers.
andre
--
Andre
According to [1], the allowed user/* sections are:
- user/accessories Accessories
- user/communication Communication
- user/games Games
- user/multimedia Multimedia
- user/office Office
- user/other Other
- user/programming Programming
- user/support Support
-
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 12:58, Luca Donaggio donag...@gmail.com wrote:
But the package interface seems to think differently; the page for grsync
[2] says:
Section:user/accessories
Warning: This package is not using one of the allowed user/* sections!
What's wrong? The wiki or the package
:)
this has been a good informative discussion.
since we are working on beta, can i suggest something.
anidels point about app feedback *from the device itself* is important.
if me as a user selects extras testing and installs a an app because anidel
said his new version is there
from that
please accept huge apologies for spelling of your name Aniello :$
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 12:03 PM, gary liquid liq...@gmail.com wrote:
:)
this has been a good informative discussion.
since we are working on beta, can i suggest something.
anidels point about app feedback *from the device
Hi,
Here are new categories suggested by community:
http://wiki.maemo.org/Task:Package_categories
Don't ask me why official SDK documentation contains another list :)
Regards,
Ed
2009/9/24 Luca Donaggio donag...@gmail.com:
According to [1], the allowed user/* sections are:
user/accessories
Thanks Andrew!
Luca Donaggio
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 2:03 PM, Andrew Flegg and...@bleb.org wrote:
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 12:58, Luca Donaggio donag...@gmail.com wrote:
But the package interface seems to think differently; the page for grsync
[2] says:
Section:user/accessories
this has been a good informative discussion.
since we are working on beta, can i suggest something.
anidels point about app feedback *from the device itself* is
important.
if me as a user selects extras testing and installs a an app
because anidel said his new version is there from
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 12:22 PM, Simon Pickering
s.g.picker...@bath.ac.ukwrote:
this has been a good informative discussion.
since we are working on beta, can i suggest something.
anidels point about app feedback *from the device itself* is
important.
if me as a user selects
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:25 PM, gary liquid liq...@gmail.com wrote:
you have installed an app from the -testing repository.
you are therefore signing up to be a tester.
Or a new version which includes a feature / bugfix you really want is
in quarantine.
--
Matan Ziv-Av.
you have installed an app from the -testing repository.
you are therefore signing up to be a tester.
i dont expect normal apps to have this procedure.
it is merely a way to expedite feedback
Ah yes, forgot this was specific to -testing.
Simon
Apologies will be accepted in Amsterdam along with a bottle of beer :D
2009/9/24 gary liquid liq...@gmail.com:
please accept huge apologies for spelling of your name Aniello :$
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 12:03 PM, gary liquid liq...@gmail.com wrote:
:)
this has been a good informative
it will have to be on IOU
i have no job, no money, no anything.
im actually surprised mrs lcuk let me go at all
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 12:49 PM, Aniello Del Sorbo ani...@gmail.comwrote:
Apologies will be accepted in Amsterdam along with a bottle of beer :D
2009/9/24 gary liquid
2009/9/24 Jeremiah Foster jerem...@jeremiahfoster.com:
All community developed projects have a Quality Assurance process. Debian's,
which is what Maemo is based on, looks like this;
1. Submit your app to autobuilders
2. If it fails to build from source, start over at 1
3. If it builds, it
I will bring the two bottles of beer and you will bring your free apologies. ;)
Aniello
2009/9/24 gary liquid liq...@gmail.com:
it will have to be on IOU
i have no job, no money, no anything.
im actually surprised mrs lcuk let me go at all
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 12:49 PM, Aniello Del
El jue, 24-09-2009 a las 08:28 +0200, Cornelius Hald escribió:
I propose to create a garage project, let's say 'hildon-extras' with
the goal of creating a library containing missing widgets where more
than one person is interested in.
I am not sure why you need a new library. We've proposed
From: Cornelius Hald h...@icandy.de
There are some important widgets which are deprecated without a
replacement in Fremantle. Those widgets are still available, but they
are not fully finger-friendly or don't look good.
As far as I remember, we have a conversation with you about the color
From: Andrew Olmsted andrew.olms...@gmail.com
I have started work on a pannable-font-selector and pannable-color-selector
(for lack of better names at this point) with the help and input of some of
the folks at #maemo. I want to have a dialog and button for each of them as
well as you
From: Claudio Saavedra csaave...@igalia.com
El jue, 24-09-2009 a las 08:28 +0200, Cornelius Hald escribió:
I propose to create a garage project, let's say 'hildon-extras' with
the goal of creating a library containing missing widgets where more
than one person is interested in.
I am
I think it would be best if these widgets made it into hildon - people
would get the most use out of them. When I get my versions into a more
usable state, I will submit them to the hildon team. It should at least
be a good starting point.
I am modelling my widgets after current and past
It is just extremely confusing that
http://wiki.maemo.org/Task:Package_categories#New_list_for_DIABLO
shall be the answer for
Allowed sections for FREMANTLE?
(All Caps by me)
I really hope for the sprint, that's why I voted and commented on that bug 5055.
Otherwise, I'll have to
On Thu, September 24, 2009 13:01, Aniello Del Sorbo wrote:
I am well aware of that :)
But if I go thru extras-testing (and I really want to!) then it looks
like the Community has the last word on my application.
Yes, they do. It's a community effort, but look at it from the other
side. Not
From: maemo-developers-boun...@maemo.org [maemo-developers-boun...@maemo.org]
On Behalf Of ext Aniello Del Sorbo [ani...@gmail.com]
Sent: 24 September 2009 12:19
To: Gil Quim (Nokia-D/Helsinki)
Cc: maemo-developers@maemo.org
Subject: Re: How to use
On Sep 24, 2009, at 15:13, Marius Vollmer wrote:
2009/9/24 Jeremiah Foster jerem...@jeremiahfoster.com:
All community developed projects have a Quality Assurance process.
Debian's,
which is what Maemo is based on, looks like this;
1. Submit your app to autobuilders
2. If it fails to
Stoppa Igor (Nokia-D/Helsinki) igor.sto...@nokia.com writes:
It's not desire for control here, only for quality.
Please remember that this thing still runs on battery.
And the iPhone runs on what? Steve Jobs, err, bodily fluids? :)
Anyway, of course this is also about control: quality
Hi,
my name is Damian Melniczuk and I'm president of AASOC - student
organisation which main purpose is to promote FLOSS. We are organising
celebration of SFD in Wroclaw in Poland. I think, it will be good idea
to promote Maemo at this event. So, we are looking for developer or user
who could
ext Jeremiah Foster jerem...@jeremiahfoster.com writes:
x.The big fundamental difference between Debian and Maemo Extras is
that Debian is producing one big release of a complete integrated
distribution, while Maemo Extras is a collection of mostly
independent applications that are released
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 1:43 PM, tero.k...@nokia.com wrote:
Also I'll take the time to ask Nokia testing to look at the tooling issue. I
would like to have some nice set of tools for testing the measurable aspects
of applications (like battery usage as Igor pointed out).
For battery life
Hello again and sorry for the delay!
I'll try to answer the mails from Claudio and API here. Just too many
mails to reply one by one, so I'm replying to myself :P
First, my proposal was not meant as a affront towards Igalia or the
Hildon team. You have been very helpful in the past and I'm
This would be my first contribution to the Hildon community widgets:
http://zwong.de/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/check_button.png
At the moment it's called ConboyCheckButton, but I will change the name
once we come up with something.
It has the same features like a HildonButton (2 labels with
Hi Andrew,
I have started work on a pannable-font-selector and
pannable-color-selector (for lack of better names at this point) with
the help and input of some of the folks at #maemo. I want to have a
dialog and button for each of them as well as you suggest, to make it
as easy as possible
On Thu, 2009-09-24 at 16:13 +0200, Piñeiro wrote:
Personally I would like to see the following widgets:
* HildonExtrasColorButton:
A button that looks like a HildonCheckButton, but instead of the check
mark it displays the selected color. When clicking this button a
The color chooser dialog is nice for people who know RGB. But regular
users don't know RGB so it won't be of much use, actually. A color
wheel would be more understandable.
Martin
2009/9/24, Cornelius Hald h...@icandy.de:
This would be my first contribution to the Hildon community widgets:
El jue, 24-09-2009 a las 20:56 +0200, Cornelius Hald escribió:
Hello again and sorry for the delay!
I'll try to answer the mails from Claudio and API here. Just too many
mails to reply one by one, so I'm replying to myself :P
First, my proposal was not meant as a affront towards Igalia or
Hello I have installed fremantle sdk
but I can not get it updated the repository for x86 target, after the a
fresh installation
basically I get this
[sbox-FREMANTLE_X86: ~] apt-get update
Err http://repository.maemo.org fremantle/sdk Release.gpg
Temporary failure resolving
Hi,
2009/9/24 Gibran Rodriguez brangi...@gmail.com:
Hello I have installed fremantle sdk
but I can not get it updated the repository for x86 target, after the a
fresh installation
basically I get this
[sbox-FREMANTLE_X86: ~] apt-get update
Err http://repository.maemo.org fremantle/sdk
I realise this is a slightly different question (hence the new subject)
OK, say I have an evil twin who wants to attack ('own') a lot of Nokia N900
devices. How do I do this?
Does extras-testing factor into this?
David
tero.k...@nokia.com wrote:
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On Thu,
Hello,
This will not be interesting to many of you, but I wanted to reach the
largest developer audience.
Members from the hildon and modest projects reported that git push fails
using the repositories on git.maemo.org.
After investigating for a few hours (thanks for help, Alberto [1]) I
have a
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