hi am on n900 so will be brief
got chance to do some testing witrh n900 and projector tonight
my n900 is a month old
my n900 works in tv in at home
my n900 worked with projectors tested at onedotzero
my n900 failed at summit
my tv out just failed to show on a projector here with me (it was grainy
There is no interface to pull apps manually.
if testing identifies a blocker, the maintainer has no way but to leave it
there wasting the other testers time.
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 12:56 PM, Aniello Del Sorbo wrote:
> 2009/10/22 Niels Breet :
> > Hi,
> >
> > To not keep obvious broken applicati
can't we just optify /usr/include and /usr/lib ?
On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 3:48 PM, Nathan Anderson
wrote:
> Marius,
>
>Well, I agree dev packages are not really the target of a device.
> And as a dev I would probably feel comfortable moving things around (if
> they
> wanted to). I just n
i do it via ssh console as part of my n900 reinstallation notes
i'm not sure why you would use the app manager since git is a console app ;)
#
git
add the repositories: i use
/etc/apt/sources.list.d/hildon-application-manager.l
apologies,
yes nothing to do with SSH, but if the HTTP/HTTPS as Andrew said.
gary
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Dieter Plaetinck wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Oct 2009 11:08:32 +0100
> Andrew Flegg wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 11:01, gary liquid wrote:
> > >
&g
in the diablo extras repository is a package "git-core"
i use this on my n900 to do all my git related activities.
note however, it has 1 limitation - it works well using git: protocol, but
it cannot do SSH updates (maemo garage uses this protocol)
apart from that, its solid and should most likely
com> wrote:
> On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 23:01:20 +0100, gary liquid wrote:
> > hi,
> >
> > how long does a package take from -extras-devel to get to extras-testing
>
> It shouldn't take long, it probably depends on the size of the package. But
> I'll let Niels
hi,
how long does a package take from -extras-devel to get to extras-testing
ive got a time sensitive package i would like to have on the system by my
presentation at 12.30 tomorrow.
hopefully if i can get the liqbase-playground package installed from
extras-testing or extras-devel audience memb
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 2:35 PM, Graham Cobb
> wrote:
> On Monday 05 October 2009 14:11:20 Thomas Perl wrote:
> > Also, I have been thinking of implementing relevant parts of the code
> > in Vala (and then either compiling the vala code to C source code for
> > the library or build-depending on Va
hi,
just setting up a few things on my tablet,
i notice "apt-get build-essential" is 73.2MB
getting the -dev libraries needed for libliqbase is another 40MB.
how well does optify work on these - if it can be reduced drastically,
on device liqbase development becomes easy.
gary
can i have a recap
from what i know now,
there are 2 sortof nearly good finger friendly color selection dialog tests
in use
in two different apps and some python test code
all of which is better than the not very finger friendly but standard
implementations.
we now seem to have stopped dead with
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Cornelius Hald wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-09-28 at 13:28 +0000, gary liquid wrote:
> > for now, sure its the only practical way we are going to advance
> > since we have a good idea what this may look like, how about we get
> > down to sorting o
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 1:17 PM, Cornelius Hald wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-09-28 at 13:00 +0200, Thomas Perl wrote:
> > 2009/9/28 Cornelius Hald :
> > > On Mon, 2009-09-28 at 12:18 +0200, Thomas Perl wrote:
> > >> Yes, we can probably add whatever we want in the "Advanced" color
> > >> dialog. One thi
hi,
this morning a conversation took place in #maemo which begun to discuss the
specifics of implementing MMS in the n900
I have posted the conversation onto the wiki, but it requires extensive
weeding and cleanup and converting into an outline and spec
please get involved and have a go at gettin
On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 5:29 PM, wrote:
> - Original message -
> > the apps in maemo extras *should* be trusted because we, the community,
> trust
> > the developers who put them there.
>
> Gary, I trust the community, but I really want to be sure.
>
> It is also because I like the commu
hehe
it was a very short enthusiastic message
having the dual level dialog with easy colours on the front and an advanced
button where we can use more fiddly configuration seems the nicest way.
how the eventual dialog looks is not important to me, its the principle that
matters.
it allows a user
On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 2:00 PM, Thomas Perl wrote:
> 2009/9/26 Cornelius Hald :
> > So how about a dialog that just shows n rows with 3 to 4 colors in each
> > row. Those rows are in a panable area so it's easy to scroll them. Those
> > colors are taken from a palette and (maybe) colors that hav
the apps in maemo extras *should* be trusted because we, the community,
trust the developers who put them there.
it would take 1 bad report to have the software removed from extras.
its a worrying scenario for some people, but this isnt the wild west and
like all trust based mechanisms, people i
there is an lot of very good dialog here :)
On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 9:14 AM, Murray Cumming wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-09-24 at 08:28 +0200, Cornelius Hald wrote:
> > Hi!
> >
> > There are some important widgets which are deprecated without a
> > replacement in Fremantle. Those widgets are still ava
it will have to be on IOU
i have no job, no money, no anything.
im actually surprised mrs lcuk let me go at all
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 12:49 PM, Aniello Del Sorbo wrote:
> Apologies will be accepted in Amsterdam along with a bottle of beer :D
>
> 2009/9/24 gary liquid :
> > ple
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 12:22 PM, Simon Pickering
wrote:
>
> > this has been a good informative discussion.
> > since we are working on beta, can i suggest something.
> >
> > anidels point about app feedback *from the device itself* is
> > important.
> >
> > if me as a user selects extras testing
please accept huge apologies for spelling of your name Aniello :$
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 12:03 PM, gary liquid wrote:
> :)
>
> this has been a good informative discussion.
> since we are working on beta, can i suggest something.
>
> anidels point about app feedback *from
:)
this has been a good informative discussion.
since we are working on beta, can i suggest something.
anidels point about app feedback *from the device itself* is important.
if me as a user selects extras testing and installs a an app because anidel
said his new version is there
from that mome
i have been thinking and talking with pupnik in #liqbase a little this
evening and I mentioned something that has been rolling round my head.
what if i took the kick ass superior rendering of liqbase and tried
something different.
liqbase has always been really fast (sacrificing perfection with s
Hi,
Nokia is gearing up towards releasing the greatly anticipated N900 device
which allows each and every one of us to use and create our dream apps in!
They have listened to the community and it has sourced the best components
it can to produce what I say is an outstanding piece of technological
n dealing with licensing issues, if your application is GPL licensed
> you should look for the GPL-compatible licenses list:
>
> http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/license-list.html#GPLCompatibleLicenses
>
> Cheers,
>
> --
> Joaquim Rocha
>
> Murray Cumming wrote:
> > O
tero,
great idea!
on this subject, a couple of days ago i updated the wiki article on
accelerometers to include a smoothing function (if required) which works
really well on my x41 and stopped any jitter :)
gary
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 11:03 AM, Andrea Grandi wrote:
> Hi,
>
> 2009/9/1 :
> >
haha maybe i should have opened my eyes
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIT_License
/thread before it even started
On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 11:19 AM, gary liquid wrote:
> hi,
>
> I am interested in picking up some of the examples from the maemoexamples
> collection provided by nokia.
hi,
I am interested in picking up some of the examples from the maemoexamples
collection provided by nokia.
(
https://garage.maemo.org/plugins/scmsvn/viewcvs.php/trunk/?root=maemoexamples)
When I went looking, I find many are licensed under a permissive MIT
license.
this is great and open source
solved, thanks to qwerty.
the standard "make me a deb" script i use for libliqbase etc gave wrong
stuff for this - i mistakenly thought it would just work the same way.
meh!
gary
On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 10:24 AM, gary liquid wrote:
> hi,
>
> i have got myself a package
hi,
i have got myself a package from debian which I require for a project.
it has been built without change from the debian source and I produced a
package and have been testing it on my machine.
The package building gave me required .changes, .dsc, .orig.tar.gz and
.diff.gz files.
the original
sounds good :)
http://liqbase.net/liq.20090728_013953.liqbase_net.scr.png
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 12:39 AM, Andrew Daviel wrote:
>
> A suggestion for tablet GUI/applications:
>
> I'd like to be able to enter a scribble directly as an input field (FYI,
> one could do this in NCSA Mosaic - "jot
actually, if you don't have working knowledge and experience with c++ and
the sorts of compiler errors and warnings that are thrown out just jumping
in and using your c code and experience to make a c++ app is going to be a
nightmare.
sure, the syntax is similar and you can use your core logic wri
is it possible to do tablet->tablet flashing?
(serious question)
most of us now have more than one device and since not all of us have linux
or windows available (hiya GA), having a native solution would be a possible
quicker workaround
gary
On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 1:36 PM, Ryan Abel wrote:
>
i have been caught in this exact scenario recently.
and yes, if the library exists in extras or extras-devel then whilst
building your application it will find and use them.
there is a gotcha though:
if you add NEW calls or references or headers into the library since you
last updated, it will FA
ation is FASTER for normal day to day
coding than scratchbox and copy and execute :)
its got obvious serious drawbacks tho lol
gary
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 10:01 PM, Jamie Bennett wrote:
>
> On 11 Jun 2009, at 21:08, gary liquid wrote:
>
>> Hubert,
>>
>> Compiling my pu
Hubert,
Compiling my pure C in a C++ compiler is indeed possible.
However, it takes 10x longer on my tablet to compile even simple
programs using a c++ compiler.
I don't mind if the libs aren't available, it was just a nicety for me
- there will be other libraries that are usable as required I am
Sampo,
I would also be interested in a C api to the same calendar backend.
Obviously my calendar is very simplistic and sketch based, but it
would be of obvious benefit to allow system calendar entries to be
visible there :)
Gary
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Sampo Savola wrote:
> Hey
>
>
i have always thought the categories you install software from on the device
should more accurately represent the breakdown specified in
maemo.orgdownloads (or vice versa)
having 2 completely independent category lists seems fruitless and counter
productive.
(forgive me if they are already in syn
i have always thought the categories you install software from on the device
should more accurately represent the breakdown specified in
maemo.orgdownloads (or vice versa)
having 2 completely independent category lists seems fruitless and counter
productive.
(forgive me if they are already in syn
hi all,
the current liqbase has a simplified text based book reader - its available
in maemo extras.
its got super sliq kinetic scrolling through the document and fullscreen
tearfree rendering of booktext with an autoscroll function :)
it remembers your position and allows you to select a new boo
Niels,
that sounds like a sage proposal to the initial uploading, what however
happens when a package has gone through all this and been uploaded and
"active" for a while with no real problems.
If after a period of time reports start to come in of problems, would it be
wise to put in place mechan
playtest)
gary
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 3:13 PM, Quim Gil wrote:
>
>
> ext gary liquid wrote:
> > automated unit testing will not find all bugs or problems in perfectly
> > packages software.
> > manual human testing will not find all bugs or problems in perfectly
>
automated unit testing will not find all bugs or problems in perfectly
packages software.
manual human testing will not find all bugs or problems in perfectly
packaged software.
a combination of both involving common sense and prior history should
minimize the risk of problems though.
gary
On Mo
hi,
Most folks will know I've been mad enough to know I have created the liqbase
ui in the YUV overlay for the n8x0 devices.
I have not been able to get the fremantle SDK up and running smoothly and am
under the impression the emulation does not support YUV mode.
I would like to know how well liq
wiki page somewhere to give the official
> instructions for GL app devs, and to document successes and failures like
> this?
>
>
> Cheers!
>
> Duncan Cragg
>
> --
> *Q:* *What's The Killer App for Mobile 2.0?*
> *A:* See http://the-u-web.org
>
>
>
&
a wiki page somewhere to give the official
> instructions for GL app devs, and to document successes and failures like
> this?
>
>
> Cheers!
>
> Duncan Cragg
>
> --
> *Q:* *What's The Killer App for Mobile 2.0?*
> *A:* See http://the-u-web.org
>
>
>
>
Hendrik,
I assume that to use clutter in your application is to somehow get the
window manager to shutdown the opengl context and then open yours for the
duration before once again reopening the window manager.
A somewhat challenging prospect!
Whilst its possible to use x11 compositing to bring i
the problem originates from so putting the issue
centrally is the best option.
gary
On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 9:21 PM, Siarhei Siamashka <
siarhei.siamas...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tuesday 27 January 2009, gary liquid wrote:
> > the answer to the identification problem is by querying
the answer to the identification problem is by querying the xrandr x11
extension library.
http://www.xfree86.org/current/Xrandr.3.html
Kamen correctly points out however that a user with the default installation
of maemo does not need to query this interface, there is only 1 possible
default orie
Graham
seems reasonable enough.
I just worry that testers are not as clear headed.
gary
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:01 AM, Graham Cobb
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> On Wednesday 26 November 2008 18:34:17 gary liquid wrote:
> > i don't think I follow w
ves this problem and developers and betatesters alike
continue as they were before but without having complexities of multiple
updated applications.
gary
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 6:07 PM, Marius Vollmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> "ext gary liquid" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> write
the help of any beta testers and we want to make
life easy for them to get involved.
gary (lcuk on #maemo)
#
"ext gary liquid" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> [...] and now its indicated for us
ult).
>
> There are plenty of ways...
> Perhaps a mix of them hides the perfect solution.
>
> Aniello
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 11:22 PM, gary liquid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> There should be a whitelist of applications to use from -devel with a
>>
There should be a whitelist of applications to use from -devel with a method
to add or select packages from within it.
If I *choose* to get involved in the xournal beta testing and want to obtain
it from -devel this should not effect the testing status of other
applications which I am not focusing
Removing the option to install applications listed inside our configured
repositories takes away greatly from the system.
The UI is at fault, not the actions it performs and data it contains within
it.
Gary
On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 2:28 PM, Marius Vollmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> Hi,
>
> with
quim,
I obviously think Nokia can support my project.
At present liqbase is a usable beta quality application (which just got
added to extras after an extensive testing run), but I believe it could be
so much more.
I have spent the last 6 months putting together the building blocks of an
expansi
i don't mind being wrong :)
thanks Eero, it was the principle more than the specifics I was trying to
indicate however.
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 3:46 PM, Eero Tamminen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> Hi,
>
> ext gary liquid wrote:
>
>> have you considered caching th
arto,
have you considered caching the downloaded file to disk and reading from
there using the standard function?
This would give you the obvious benefit of allowing offline usage and faster
requerying.
There isn't an infinite amount of memory available and having to download
images everytime cou
The camera is accessible by using the gstreamer media libraries.
I make use of it within liqbase and extract live image data from the stream.
For additional sources using the camera, lardman has started a barcode
project which also makes use of the camera.
If I remember rightly, you can export dat
Hendrik,
I build my application exclusively on the device in c.
I have installed gcc and the primary development libraries required for my
application and find the compile times for individual source files very
acceptable.
Of course when I need to rebuild the entire project I know its time to have
+1
On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 2:34 PM, David Greaves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> As a member of this list I am finding Darius' postings unacceptable for a
> -developer list.
>
> If he continues to post in this manner I would support his removal.
>
> Anyone else or is it just me?
>
> David
>
i see nothing wrong with this message.
as an example of pseudo code it seems quite apt, however it won't compile on
my machine due to missing "grumphy" dependencies.
anyone know where I can get them from?
On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 11:41 AM, Darius Jack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> What I get from
the touch screen resolution is even more than that, it has a native
resolution of:
x res of ~~~ 3500 units, and y res of ~~~ 3100 units.
These are typically scaled to the screen by calibration process but are
readable using the xsp extension.
:D
On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 3:22 PM, Eero Tamminen <[
heh,
from now on, you are gonna be called Dave "Diebold" Neary :D
On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 3:17 PM, Dave Neary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Yesterday evening, on popular request, I committed a patch to the
> elections scripts to add a link to candidate declarations at the top of
> Step
is.
>
> I was really surprised to hear , some maemo developers try to close the
> multitouch thread not to let us sing one day
> We are the Champions.
>
> Multitouch is exactly about maemo development.
>
> Darius
>
>
>
> --- On Wed, 3/9/08, gary liquid <[
You obviously do not realise how touchscreens work.
When you press in 2 locations the click point will be located at the centre
of gravity between those points.
This is why if you accidentally catch your screen with your wrist whilst
operating with the stylus the pointer will shoot off in a rando
Its quite explicit and clear he doesn't want to be removed.
When he returns to the office in 2042 he will no doubt want to catch up on
all this.
Should we submit an out of office patch to make the the mailing list cater
for this situation?
:P
On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 3:05 PM, Joshua Layne <[EMA
http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 5:54 PM, Darius Jack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have noticed the following copyrights entries in shell scripts:
>
> no notice
> GPL copyrighted
> copyrighted
> ..
>
> Could you kindly tell if shell script is covered by GPL,
Darius, you star.
I love eating bounties.
Breaking into the wrapper and taking out the pair of delicious chocolate
bars.
Just biting into one makes chocolate coating snap and reveal the course
coconut goodness from within sends me into bliss.
m thanks for the memory, I will be sure to join yo
Thanks igor,
thats fair enough, as I said it works for what I want it to and will
hopefully be enough for nisha.
Gary
On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 8:09 PM, Igor Stoppa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-07-08 at 19:51 +0000, ext gary liquid wrote:
>
> > I believe the fol
nisa,
I believe the following will supply timing to ms level.
I'm not sure about it being relative to program start as I usually call it
once at the start of a process and once again when I am done. Its enough
for me to calculate fairly accurate FPS calculations (the only thing it was
needed for)
Darius,
Have you considered paying for the upgrade to the mapper application itself?
It might already have the features you require and be commercially
supported.
One thing which puzzles me about what you are attempting to achieve however
is how you can use the console whilst driving?
Gary (lcuk
Benoît,
Like I said, messy and complicated ;)
Agreed though, the profiles for different device actions in different states
should be configurable.
Gary
On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 10:48 AM, Benoît HERVIER <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> 2008/6/19 gary liquid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> &
George,
I have a problem with my wifi at home which means when connected it will
drain very rapidly.
I use an ad-hoc connection which I believe prevents idling so drains my
battery quickly.
Other users report staying connected to their Infrastructure based wifi for
days at a time.
I personally wo
Hi Darius,
I notice in previous emails you have been unhappy with moderated groups and
enforced limitations yet you continue to use HTML mail and fill peoples
inboxes with useless data.
The 20k limit does not hit people very often, but infact saves them from
having to download huge files when catc
David,
There are a number of options available to you, but each will depend upon
your requirements.
On the nokia device its not lack of options, but graphical bandwidth: the
display cannot update fast enough to render full screen RGB graphics at
fullspeed without some sort of tearing.
Even before
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